Topic: RATM's 'Killing In The Name Of' Xmas #1

[Frankkk]

Has anyone else bought it to keep X-factor number one off the topspot

I've bought mine off iTunes. 99p, Decent tune too so I'm not to botherd 

[Rob Jones Maybe?]

Does the money not go to the same company who release the X Factor effort, too?

So what happens is you're giving them two competing songs instead of just the one. It all seems redundant to me. I'm just going to buy the Fucked Up one where the money goes to a trio of nice causes and I get to have David Cross, Fucked Up, Yo La Tengo, Ezra Koenig, Bob Mould, Tegan and Sara, etc.

[Frankkk]

I don't get what you mean. If you buy a RATM single why would Simon Cowells label get the money?

[Rusty Oysterburger]

Does anyone give a toss about the charts anymore?

[Mikuss]

I think what there doing is actually outstanding. Even if they don't get number one they've done a lot of good and made a point. The charts is so full of xfactor shite every year it's good to see some sort of revolt, and it can only improve the music industry.

http://www.justgiving.com/ratm4xmas/  £23k+ made in charity offerings already.

[killer_heels]

I don't get what you mean. If you buy a RATM single why would Simon Cowells label get the money?

Because RATM are signed up to 'Epic' records, which are Sony (the same label that owns Simon Cowell's record arm). So basically, its all the same anyway.

Its an amazing song! But as I have mentioned before, last year Alexandra sold 500,000 copies of her single and I very much doubt there are 500,000 RATM fans in the UK.

[Dodgydon]

Decent tune too so I'm not to botherd 

No, it's a cracking tune.

[killer_heels]

No, it's a cracking tune.

Indeed. I love RATM.

[Paddee]

But as I have mentioned before, last year Alexandra sold 500,000 copies of her single and I very much doubt there are 500,000 RATM fans in the UK.

I'm guessing there's more than 500,000 obnoxious, middle class teenage bellends in the UK in all honesty.

[Dodgydon]

Indeed. I love RATM.

Ya know what the more I know about you, the more I'm thinking that you might have a chance with me.

[oldboybailey]

fuck you i wont do what you tell me! (unless your telling me to go guy killing in the name of to make it xmas number one that is)

[KERRYKOP]

Does the money not go to the same company who release the X Factor effort, too?

So what happens is you're giving them two competing songs instead of just the one. It all seems redundant to me. I'm just going to buy the Fucked Up one where the money goes to a trio of nice causes and I get to have David Cross, Fucked Up, Yo La Tengo, Ezra Koenig, Bob Mould, Tegan and Sara, etc.

They're both on Sony so Cowell's pockets get lined anyway but i don't think its about the money. Cowell said last week that a RATM No'1 would "spoil" it for the other contestants as if the No'1 spot is reserved for the X Factor winner. It would be an interesting pop moment and a victory for everyone who cant take anymore of this bland formulaic you raise me up bullshit, granted a song that's 20 years old would be dishing out the damage.

[NineTails20]

For any of the Irish contingent here, there's now a Facebook group to try and get RATM to number one here, too.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738&ref=mf&gid=2228594104#/group.php?gid=231784611232&ref=mf

[Rob Jones Maybe?]

They're both on Sony so Cowell's pockets get lined anyway but i don't think its about the money. Cowell said last week that that a RATM No'1 would "spoil" it for the other contestants as if the No'1 spot is reserved for the X Factor winner. It would be an interesting pop moment and a victory for the everyone who cant take anymore of this bland formulaic you raise me up bullshit, granted a song that's 20 years old would be dishing out the damage.

It's all about money. They've got a good couple of thousand people who would never have considered buying a single that would be vying for the Christmas top spot splashing out, a couple of them I've heard of buying multiple copies. Cowell is rubbing his hands because it's publicity for the Christmas single thing, Sony/Epic are rubbing their hands because it's publicity and they're making thousands for doing sod all and iTunes are raking the money in because of this.

I admire the good intentions but I could list a hundred better candidates for this than Rage if they just want to score a point. Something really obscure or some really harsh thrash metal track or even a proper charity single.

They've already played the song start to finish on Radio 1. The rebellion just feels a little bit empty and almost as if it's been orchestrated to encourage the funnelling of money into certain pockets. I love Rage but it's a hollow victory.

[Frankkk]

Theres near a million in the facebook group though and alot seem to be buying it off different sites more than once.

[killer_heels]

Theres near a million in the facebook group though and alot seem to be buying it off different sites more than once.

Well lets hope that it does get to number 1 then, just for the sake of it being a brilliant song by a brilliant band, rather than that shite Joe and his stupid Miley Cyrus song.

[the good half]

I admire the good intentions but I could list a hundred better candidates for this than Rage if they just want to score a point. Something really obscure or some really harsh thrash metal track or even a proper charity single.

Its the PERFECT song. "Fuck you I wont do what you tell me!!"
Its the opposite of that slick syrupy garbage that Cowell feels has the right to be top.
He's like a fuckin self obsessed kingmaker, who can make you break you with a wave.
Id love to see RAGE make it and wouldnt care if he made money off it.
The fact that it would rile him causing him to explode out of his surgical truss is to good.
MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!!

[Hudson66]

For 29p on Amazon, what the hell. I'll get it and donate some money to the just giving charity.

[El Torres]

I wondered why people i knew who weren't into any bands like RATM joined all those facebook groups, well now i know. Good song too.

[NineTails20]

Not so much a case of "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me", more like "Fuck you, I won't buy what you sell me.".

[Frankkk]

For 29p on Amazon, what the hell. I'll get it and donate some money to the just giving charity.

The 29p one doesn't count mate, its something like 50 on Play.com though.

[redmen9]

The 29p one doesn't count mate, its something like 50 on Play.com though.

No, it does count.  I'm not a fan of RATM myself, preferred Infectious Grooves take on their song "Do What I tell ya" but it's aimed as a big two fingers to Cowell protest, a stand by real music fans who are sick of manufactured talent clogging up the media.  I think it's great and I've bought mine.

[Rob Jones Maybe?]

Its the PERFECT song. "Fuck you I wont do what you tell me!!"
Its the opposite of that slick syrupy garbage that Cowell feels has the right to be top.
He's like a fuckin self obsessed kingmaker, who can make you break you with a wave.
Id love to see RAGE make it and wouldnt care if he made money off it.
The fact that it would rile him causing him to explode out of his surgical truss is to good.
MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!!

From what I remember it's a song about racial discrimination by police officers/the military/'the man'. Loosely.

Wasn't this single for Help the Heroes? Or was that the other one?

[killer_heels]

No, it does count.  I'm not a fan of RATM myself, preferred Infectious Grooves take on their song "Do What I tell ya" but it's aimed as a big two fingers to Cowell protest, a stand by real music fans who are sick of manufactured talent clogging up the media.  I think it's great and I've bought mine.

I would have preferred 'Know your enemy' as the song rather than Killing in the name of. But either will do.

[24/7]

It's a great song. It's a great protest. It's a great protest song

Fuck the establishment. Fuck the government. Fuck the corporates. Fuck the politicians. Fuck the 'X-Factor' sheep. Fuck the whole 'reality tv generation'. Fuck up Simon Cowell.

It's a great release for the frustrations caused by our current predicament - played this yesterday at full volume after the game - much the annoyance of the cats and the missus. Fuck 'em

[NineTails20]

I have to say, I love this pic from the Facebook group.

[macco]

I would have preferred 'Know your enemy' as the song rather than Killing in the name of. But either will do.

My favourite RATM track. Funnily enough, I always skip Killing in the Name.

[Frankkk]

No, it does count.  I'm not a fan of RATM myself, preferred Infectious Grooves take on their song "Do What I tell ya" but it's aimed as a big two fingers to Cowell protest, a stand by real music fans who are sick of manufactured talent clogging up the media.  I think it's great and I've bought mine.

Not sure then as apparently it was too cheap a download to count towards the charts

[CHOPPER]

It's a great song. It's a great protest. It's a great protest song

Fuck the establishment. Fuck the government. Fuck the corporates. Fuck the politicians. Fuck the 'X-Factor' sheep. Fuck the whole 'reality tv generation'. Fuck up Simon Cowell.

It's a great release for the frustrations caused by our current predicament - played this yesterday at full volume after the game - much the annoyance of the cats and the missus. Fuck 'em

24/7,

You have received a warning for repetitive swearing and the use of a certain 4 letter word, when we all know full well that your fucking better than that.

Regards,
The cussing and foul mouthed squad

[Okkervil]

I have to say, I love this pic from the Facebook group.

Ha! Love that!

[Silent...Violet...]

Covered this song with my band from school.

[24/7]

24/7,

You have received a warning for repetitive swearing and the use of a certain 4 letter word, when we all know full well that your fucking better than that.

Regards,
The cussing and foul mouthed squad

About fucking time

[redmen9]

Not sure then as apparently it was too cheap a download to count towards the charts

On the Facebook group they originally said that any downloads less than 40p wouldn't count but now they've revised that so yes, the 29p download from Amazon does count.

What won't count is multiple downloads (over three) from the same ip/credit card/address etc.

[Frankkk]

On the Facebook group they originally said that any downloads less than 40p wouldn't count but now they've revised that so yes, the 29p download from Amazon does count.

What won't count is multiple downloads (over three) from the same ip/credit card/address etc.

Fair does.

[J_Kopite]

Bought the single, go me!

[LCDP]

On the facebook group the admin say you can definately buy it from amazon and it goes to the chart numbers.

Bought it earlier, absolute bargain at 29p as well as saying fuck off too your shite to Simon Cowell.

Its number 2 in most of the charts so far.

[۩ Imperator ۩]

They're both on Sony so Cowell's pockets get lined anyway

Yeah, 'cos Simon Cowell owns Sony, doesn't he?

[Garsonite]

Yeah, 'cos Simon Cowell owns Sony, doesn't he?

Yep. It's his best coup since acquiring the minds of millions with repetitive shite year on year.

[Paul JH]

Anything that stops -

4 months of X Factor
4 months of cynical ads for anything He* has a hand in DURING X Factor.
4 months of people selling their albums in time for Christmas by appearing ON X Factor/
4 months of Louis Walsh
 

and one insipid little twat who won, that the Mirror beautifully described as 'someone who makes Gareth Gates look like a member of Slipknot' getting to number one, go for it!

 

(you have to refer to Simon Cowell like this from now on for he is now our self appointed God. Capital H on 'He'...)

[NineTails20]

He's hoping to release a track from 'Freaks' next year, with the lovely ditty 'One of us.......one of us.....one of us....".

The smug git's like the Borg. Resistance is futile.