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New Addition - I wrote this to Sky Sports. It'll fall on deaf ears, but thought I'd share it on RAWK and seeing as FS 'laugh at the media' thread was closed, thought it best I write it in my own!

Sky Sports - a fucking embarrassment. You enrich all that has become wrong with football. The media witch hunt for Rafa, is beyond pale. The interviewer, who relentlessly chased an answer from Rafa, with regards to 'Rafas' view of the penalty? Did Andy Burton not realise that Rafa was saying his view was as the '27,000' of those who saw it was a penalty. Was Andy Burton born in an asylum in Donchaster as a retarded, handicapped monkey? Is his father, 'Richard-hairy-hands-Keys'? Is Andy Gray their reverend? Is Jamie Redknapp the choir boy? Is Rupert Murdoch really Judas? Is Rafa really God?

I find it unbelievable that Andy-Martin-Tyler's-HandjobRightMan-Gray, can spout his pathetic nuisance on sky sports with clear bias against Liverpool. An Evertonian, who grew up fantasising of liverpool's downfall. Who was never good enough for the red of liverpool and so his hunger and envy for the collapse of an empire grew. The man, prides himself, in lying to himself, lying to the public and has no shame in believing his lies.

Sly Sports, I don't expect any of you to understand this rant, all you understand is that £ = power and with your Furher-esque domination of complete factionalism, you have capitulated football into a donkey's penis.

You now face a man, who unlike Mr Ferguson, has true character, isn't afraid to face the facts, isn't afraid to show your pathetic journalistic writings, that you lot, are a complete pile of donkey's faeces.

Rafa will succeed over you lot. When he does, will Richard Keys shave his hands? Will Andy Gray ever do a broadcast sober? Will Jamie pay his daddies' tax returns? Will Andy Burton finally tell his mother on transfer deadline day, not to disturb him with irrelevant phone calls when on national television?

Show Rafa the respect he deserves.

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I've been losing a sense of understanding and compassion with the game, not so much because of the results of our club this season, but more with what football has become and those who represent it.
 
We live in a society where the tabloids are the Holy Book and Sky Sports the 'Church', (as majority now spend their Sundays' with that monopoly power giant). How the likes of the hairy-handed halfwit, Martin Tyler's Monkey, Paul Merson and Le Tisseur hold a position of power to 'preach' such twisted, biased, blinded, deceitful, disgusting, unfounded 'beliefs' belittling a man who topped Real Madrid and Barcelona, at a time when no other man would be capable of getting 'sacred wine' for his men.

Rafael Benitez: An educated, astute fellow, who underlines the importance of hard work, focus, togetherness, belief and confidence; skills applicable in every dimension of life, is still undermined and belittled by people with not even a tenth of his knowledge and understanding.
 
We live in a time where games such as Football Manager, give people the belief that they have an ounce of tactical insight. Even though the manager thinks endlessly about possibilities for the club to progress, now and in the future; the misguided and disillusioned feel a simple 4-4-2 formation, with Gerrard partnering Masch in the middle is the solution for majority of our problems, and then with Villa or Aguero being signed in the future to partner Torres upfront. Its not the latter part of that ideology that has me questioning the persons IQ in relation to the former President of the United States, but the theories instilled by Rafa into his "machine": balance, playing to their strengths, specialisation of roles, are completely disregarded by many because of a computer game depicting the nature of our managers' work, likened to the manner by which a scientist would approach a piece of art: completely fucking upside-down.
 
Common sense, the greatest tool given by God to man, but also greatly overlooked by the football follower. 'Why not play Aquilani? Why is Rafa so stubborn and insists on not playing Aquilani?'. Ask yourself, wee old fickle fan full of initiative, if Rafa deemed it best for the club and player for Aquilani to play, he surely would?! Up until this point, who do you think has suffered the most that Aquilani has not been available? -Rafa. There is a saying, ‘To select well among old things, is almost equal to inventing new ones’, this is very fitting for the manner in which Rafa captured our 5th European Cup Title, mainly with a squad he had inherited, he did it with pride, grace and dignity.

One of Rafa's greatest testaments in his progression of the club as a 'family unit', an ideology upon the greatness this club was founded, is demonstrated with Steven Gerrard. A player who when Rafa started coaching had several great qualities of a son that was not quite yet mature enough to be a man. But under the guidance of Rafa, we have seen Gerrard mature as a man, adding extra dimensions to his play and handling the extra responsibility. Gerrard, thanks to Rafa has grown to be one of the greatest footballers in the World and will be playing his 500th game for Liverpool FC today, a born and bred Liverpool fan, like you and I, he's witnessed the change in the game he grew up loving. Its a possibility that one of the greatest players of all time, could finish his career not having won the league; But sometimes in life, there isn't a title to show a man's greatness, as Sir Bob Paisley once commented after his Liverpool side finished second in the league: “…when you count second place as failure, then standards are becoming fantastically high. We never celebrate second place here."


 
When Benitez signed his new contract, he likened the club and city to a family, the very traditions our club has grown, is inherited within a man from Madrid. At a time when football is in its dark era, we have a man, a father, leading the club through a storm, with great integrity and love for his family – his club and city.


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Just to counter any predictable arguments raised by the Paisley quote, there was no prize for coming second. Football was a much simpler game then and the European Cup was only for Champions. It IS an achievement to make the champions league places, not in the minds of the fans naturally but in the actual reality and goal of keeping our beloved club alive and within a whiskers touch of the big prizes.
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Great post Lunatic. 
A great point about the way Rafa is belittled and  i would go further and say bullied by press, managers etc...In any other walk of life, this sort of behaviour would or should be stopped pronto, but in football, and Rafa in particular, this seems fair game - and is completetly wrong.  As i've said before though, the club, it's supporters and Rafa could either crumble or grow bigger shoulders and i'm sure it'll be the latter.

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I've been losing a sense of understanding and compassion with the game, not so much because of the results of our club this season, but more with what football has become and those who represent it.
 
We live in a society where the tabloids are the Holy Book and Sky Sports the 'Church', (as majority now spend their Sundays' with that monopoly power giant). How the likes of the hairy-handed halfwit, Martin Tyler's Monkey, Paul Merson and Le Tisseur hold a position of power to 'preach' such twisted, biased, blinded, deceitful, disgusting, unfounded 'beliefs' belittling a man who topped Real Madrid and Barcelona, at a time when no other man would be capable of getting 'sacred wine' for his men.

Rafael Benitez: An educated, astute fellow, who underlines the importance of hard work, focus, togetherness, belief and confidence; skills applicable in every dimension of life, is still undermined and belittled by people with not even a tenth of his knowledge and understanding.
 
We live in a time where games such as Football Manager, give people the belief that they have an ounce of tactical insight. Even though the manager thinks endlessly about possibilities for the club to progress, now and in the future; the misguided and disillusioned feel a simple 4-4-2 formation, with Gerrard partnering Masch in the middle is the solution for majority of our problems, and then with Villa or Aguero being signed in the future to partner Torres upfront. Its not the latter part of that ideology that has me questioning the persons IQ in relation to the former President of the United States, but the theories instilled by Rafa into his "machine": balance, playing to their strengths, specialisation of roles, are completely disregarded by many because of a computer game depicting the nature of our managers' work, likened to the manner by which a scientist would approach a piece of art: completely fucking upside-down.
 
Common sense, the greatest tool given by God to man, but also greatly overlooked by the football follower. 'Why not play Aquilani? Why is Rafa so stubborn and insists on not playing Aquilani?'. Ask yourself, wee old fickle fan full of initiative, if Rafa deemed it best for the club and player for Aquilani to play, he surely would?! Up until this point, who do you think has suffered the most that Aquilani has not been available? -Rafa. There is a saying, ‘To select well among old things, is almost equal to inventing new ones’, this is very fitting for the manner in which Rafa captured our 5th European Cup Title, mainly with a squad he had inherited, he did it with pride, grace and dignity.

One of Rafa's greatest testaments in his progression of the club as a 'family unit', an ideology upon the greatness this club was founded, is demonstrated with Steven Gerrard. A player who when Rafa started coaching had several great qualities of a son that was not quite yet mature enough to be a man. But under the guidance of Rafa, we have seen Gerrard mature as a man, adding extra dimensions to his play and handling the extra responsibility. Gerrard, thanks to Rafa has grown to be one of the greatest footballers in the World and will be playing his 500th game for Liverpool FC today, a born and bred Liverpool fan, like you and I, he's witnessed the change in the game he grew up loving. Its a possibility that one of the greatest players of all time, could finish his career not having won the league; But sometimes in life, there isn't a title to show a man's greatness, as Sir Bob Paisley once commented after his Liverpool side finished second in the league: “…when you count second place as failure, then standards are becoming fantastically high. We never celebrate second place here."


 
When Benitez signed his new contract, he likened the club and city to a family, the very traditions our club has grown, is inherited within a man from Madrid. At a time when football is in its dark era, we have a man, a father, leading the club through a storm, with great integrity and love for his family – his club and city.




"We live in a society where the tabloids are the Holy Book and Sky Sports the 'Church',"
spot on

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This isnt right, Rafa does whats best for the team???...he is engineering his exit from the club, and is wrongfully playing two midfielders in midfield....and as for Aquilani, he didnt even want him....thats why he`s not playing him, or maybe he`s not good enough and he`s scared to admit that it was a bad signing......Rafa has spend 3000million on the squad yet we only have two decent players, and not a league title in sight......i never liked him from the start anyway foreign and all that....

Just thought i`d save the glory supporters from writing the same old predictable BS.

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I expect most pundits on the telly and in the press are probably on over £100k per year - some a lot more, some a bit less. How some of them get away with their ridiculing of Rafa is beyond reason. Their assessments of football are lazy and not researched in any form. Can you imagine a Doctor assessing your headache as a brain tumour and getting away with it.

And I'm not being over sensitive here because I don't revere Rafa like some of you. I just expect some balance to any discussion, but a lot of them are clearly encouraged to do the opposite.

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This isnt right, Rafa does whats best for the team???...he is engineering his exit from the club, and is wrongfully playing two midfielders in midfield....and as for Aquilani, he didnt even want him....thats why he`s not playing him, or maybe he`s not good enough and he`s scared to admit that it was a bad signing......Rafa has spend 3000million on the squad yet we only have two decent players, and not a league title in sight......i never liked him from the start anyway foreign and all that....

Just thought i`d save the glory supporters from writing the same old predictable BS.

Was about to tell you to do one lol.

Nah the post is a classic, excellent.
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I've been losing a sense of understanding and compassion with the game, not so much because of the results of our club this season, but more with what football has become and those who represent it.
 
We live in a society where the tabloids are the Holy Book and Sky Sports the 'Church', (as majority now spend their Sundays' with that monopoly power giant). How the likes of the hairy-handed halfwit, Martin Tyler's Monkey, Paul Merson and Le Tisseur hold a position of power to 'preach' such twisted, biased, blinded, deceitful, disgusting, unfounded 'beliefs' belittling a man who topped Real Madrid and Barcelona, at a time when no other man would be capable of getting 'sacred wine' for his men.

Rafael Benitez: An educated, astute fellow, who underlines the importance of hard work, focus, togetherness, belief and confidence; skills applicable in every dimension of life, is still undermined and belittled by people with not even a tenth of his knowledge and understanding.
 
We live in a time where games such as Football Manager, give people the belief that they have an ounce of tactical insight. Even though the manager thinks endlessly about possibilities for the club to progress, now and in the future; the misguided and disillusioned feel a simple 4-4-2 formation, with Gerrard partnering Masch in the middle is the solution for majority of our problems, and then with Villa or Aguero being signed in the future to partner Torres upfront. Its not the latter part of that ideology that has me questioning the persons IQ in relation to the former President of the United States, but the theories instilled by Rafa into his "machine": balance, playing to their strengths, specialisation of roles, are completely disregarded by many because of a computer game depicting the nature of our managers' work, likened to the manner by which a scientist would approach a piece of art: completely fucking upside-down.
 
Common sense, the greatest tool given by God to man, but also greatly overlooked by the football follower. 'Why not play Aquilani? Why is Rafa so stubborn and insists on not playing Aquilani?'. Ask yourself, wee old fickle fan full of initiative, if Rafa deemed it best for the club and player for Aquilani to play, he surely would?! Up until this point, who do you think has suffered the most that Aquilani has not been available? -Rafa. There is a saying, ‘To select well among old things, is almost equal to inventing new ones’, this is very fitting for the manner in which Rafa captured our 5th European Cup Title, mainly with a squad he had inherited, he did it with pride, grace and dignity.

One of Rafa's greatest testaments in his progression of the club as a 'family unit', an ideology upon the greatness this club was founded, is demonstrated with Steven Gerrard. A player who when Rafa started coaching had several great qualities of a son that was not quite yet mature enough to be a man. But under the guidance of Rafa, we have seen Gerrard mature as a man, adding extra dimensions to his play and handling the extra responsibility. Gerrard, thanks to Rafa has grown to be one of the greatest footballers in the World and will be playing his 500th game for Liverpool FC today, a born and bred Liverpool fan, like you and I, he's witnessed the change in the game he grew up loving. Its a possibility that one of the greatest players of all time, could finish his career not having won the league; But sometimes in life, there isn't a title to show a man's greatness, as Sir Bob Paisley once commented after his Liverpool side finished second in the league: “…when you count second place as failure, then standards are becoming fantastically high. We never celebrate second place here."


 
When Benitez signed his new contract, he likened the club and city to a family, the very traditions our club has grown, is inherited within a man from Madrid. At a time when football is in its dark era, we have a man, a father, leading the club through a storm, with great integrity and love for his family – his club and city.


Fantastic post mate, it is up there with all the other great posts in recent weeks.  :wellin :wellin :wellin
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I expect most pundits on the telly and in the press are probably on over £100k per year - some a lot more, some a bit less. How some of them get away with their ridiculing of Rafa is beyond reason. Their assessments of football are lazy and not researched in any form. Can you imagine a Doctor assessing your headache as a brain tumour and getting away with it.

And I'm not being over sensitive here because I don't revere Rafa like some of you. I just expect some balance to any discussion, but a lot of them are clearly encouraged to do the opposite.

Exclude Rafa from the argument.

How the fuck does Paul fucking Merson have a job with Sky and the Mirror? I got mates down the pub that talk more sense than that cretin.
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Exclude Rafa from the argument.

How the fuck does Paul fucking Merson have a job with Sky and the Mirror? I got mates down the pub that talk more sense than that cretin.

Mental health outreach programme?
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But he doesn;t play Aquilani etc

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Exclude Rafa from the argument.

How the fuck does Paul fucking Merson have a job with Sky and the Mirror? I got mates down the pub that talk more sense than that cretin.

Don't bother with what the pundits say. They know less than your mates anyway.

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Great post....
I'd played at Anfield and I knew the crowd were fantastic. I knew there was a public just waiting. So I fought the battles inside and outside. I was interested in only one thing, success for the club. And that meant success for the people. I wanted results for the club, for the love of the game, to make the people happy

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I expect most pundits on the telly and in the press are probably on over £100k per year - some a lot more, some a bit less. How some of them get away with their ridiculing of Rafa is beyond reason. Their assessments of football are lazy and not researched in any form. Can you imagine a Doctor assessing your headache as a brain tumour and getting away with it.

And I'm not being over sensitive here because I don't revere Rafa like some of you. I just expect some balance to any discussion, but a lot of them are clearly encouraged to do the opposite.

to be honest i used to enjoy Soccer Saturday a few years ago - Stellings tidy enough, but can't bear to listen to the shite the likes of Le Tosser, Cascarino, Gale, Nicholas and Merson spew out constantly. I mean. you have to feel sorry for Thommo, if i was him i'd be stickin my beak smack bang into that druggies eye
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Exclude Rafa from the argument.

How the fuck does Paul fucking Merson have a job with Sky and the Mirror? I got mates down the pub that talk more sense than that cretin.
I caught a glimpse of him earlier on SS and he could hardly string 3 words together. OK, so not everyone is eloquent, its not his fault and he is employed for his technical expertise...............oh, fuckin hell whoever interviewed him may have been as thick as him

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to be honest i used to enjoy Soccer Saturday a few years ago - Stellings tidy enough, but can't bear to listen to the shite the likes of Le Tosser, Cascarino, Gale, Nicholas and Merson. I mean. you have to feel sorry for Thommo, if i was him i'd by stickin my beak smack bang into that driuggies eye
Last point on this because the thread deserves better than a SS discussion, but your point above is exactly why I can only bare it for a few minutes then I just have to walk away.

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to be honest i used to enjoy Soccer Saturday a few years ago - Stellings tidy enough, but can't bear to listen to the shite the likes of Le Tosser, Cascarino, Gale, Nicholas and Merson spew out constantly. I mean. you have to feel sorry for Thommo, if i was him i'd be stickin my beak smack bang into that druggies eye

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a good contribution from a young man..seasoned supporters should know not to over-react to mindless media ..we should always hold together in these times when things don't go well, as a supporter its not easy to know who is really doing what inside the club I put my faith in my support for the manager and all the players , but it says a lot when Kenny (once again an insider) says how good a manager Rafa is..I had hoped that would be enough, even for "fickle fans" , but media & pundits alike are paid to make "controversial statement" and I used to think it was great having our players move into the media but it seems a poor 2nd best to not being good enough to manage...personally if I could nt do the job i would have a hard time criticising someone like Rafa who IS...
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brilliant post you loon!!  ;D well thought and written.  :wellin

indeed just some common sense goes a long way!!
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If anyone thinks the media HAVN'T got it in for Rafa, look at Wenger. There was a guff piece in the Mirror defending all things Arsene yesterday, (ok, he has the fact that he's won titles to fall back on) despite not having won a thing for 4 seasons and looking like it's going to be hard again for them this year too.

Rafa gets hammered for far less.

For all those who argue Rafa is poor, look what he's done with a team that hasn't won a title for 20 years. And yet you could also say Wenger has taken a title winning team (ok, he created it) and turned it into one that hasn't won a thing for 4 years now.

Funny how one gets slaughtered for turning a team who have hardly challenged for years into one that did last year, and the other gets off for turning a title winning side into one that can't win a trophy.
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Superb OP. Says what I think far more eloquently than I could. Makes me cross that such an intelligent, thoughtful and gracious man is so often so badly represented and spoken of. If he was such an awful manager as "they" imply how come he is so well respected in Europe and could virtually choose which club he went to if he left Liverpool. He deserves far more respect than he is ever likely to get from our media.

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I enjoyed that, but to be honest.... I'm starting to think the internet is as much to blame as the media.

In fact, I'm getting to the point where I just can't be arsed with it. Shame that, because I used to enjoy this place and a couple of other sites. And even now, there's always a little gem like this amongst all the shite.

And I still enjoy reading the thoughts of some of the more knowledgable and funny posters in here. But I've noticed quite a few of them people have already disappeared. And I suppose that is just clearing the path for the knobheads amongst us, but, right at this moment, I just can't be arsed and only hope the keyboard managers don't get their way or this club is well and truly bollacksed.
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Do think those that get heard and claim to follow our club on the radio, tv, etc etc will just add to the media delight at Rafa not succeeding

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Great post, Lunatic. Needed to read something like that after the doom-mongering went into overdrive.

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Quality there, Jags. Well in mate.

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Best post Ive read on her for a long time.

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That's a cracking post Lunatic!
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And I still enjoy reading the thoughts of some of the more knowledgable and funny posters in here. But I've noticed quite a few of them people have already disappeared. And I suppose that is just clearing the path for the knobheads amongst us, but, right at this moment, I just can't be arsed and only hope the keyboard managers don't get their way or this club is well and truly bollacksed.

It's not just the internet though. The bullshit is all around us.

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Top post and excellent perspective on current matters, if only more possessed it.
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 Benitez should be judged on performances and results, and right now both are not good enough. I think it only right that he should be criticised.
He has levered himself into a position of great authority, he has got himself a new contract, and is paid a small fortune to do his job, and he has made himself virtually unsackable.  Right now I don't think he is doing a particulary good job.
I can accept poor results if we are playing ok, and showing signs of improvement. But hand on heart I can't see anything at present.

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Thanks a lot to everyone for reading it and sharing their views :)

I generally find myself not talking about football anymore. I don't agree with many opinions in the public and struggle to see why people comment without knowing their facts. Misguided and ill-informed opinions based on information gathered from people who lack any real insight into our club.

I don't watch Sky Sports New as I can't bare the garbage the colgate smiling half-wits spew out of their mouth. However, I was recently at a friend's house, and himself being a Man U fan, regularly watches SSN and this was just after the Fulham defeat. Anyways, the media crossed the line for me that day in the manner in which Rafael Benitez was depicted. I remember them zooming in on his face as he was sweating (trying to emphasise him feeling the 'pressure') and portrayed him as an overweight Spanish waiter rather than the intelligent man that he is.

If anyone thinks the media HAVN'T got it in for Rafa, look at Wenger. There was a guff piece in the Mirror defending all things Arsene yesterday, (ok, he has the fact that he's won titles to fall back on) despite not having won a thing for 4 seasons and looking like it's going to be hard again for them this year too.

Rafa gets hammered for far less.

For all those who argue Rafa is poor, look what he's done with a team that hasn't won a title for 20 years. And yet you could also say Wenger has taken a title winning team (ok, he created it) and turned it into one that hasn't won a thing for 4 years now.

Funny how one gets slaughtered for turning a team who have hardly challenged for years into one that did last year, and the other gets off for turning a title winning side into one that can't win a trophy.

Agree with your point on Wenger. His recent show of ungraciousness in defeat to Man City was a farce and had it been Benitez, the outcry would have been far beyond pale. I remember back to last season when Rafa congratulated Man U for winning more games than us, even that was not good enough. So the man was to bow down to the guy who had insulted him and courted managers together to 'gang up' on the 'Spanish migrant'.

I enjoyed that, but to be honest.... I'm starting to think the internet is as much to blame as the media.

In fact, I'm getting to the point where I just can't be arsed with it. Shame that, because I used to enjoy this place and a couple of other sites. And even now, there's always a little gem like this amongst all the shite.

And I still enjoy reading the thoughts of some of the more knowledgable and funny posters in here. But I've noticed quite a few of them people have already disappeared. And I suppose that is just clearing the path for the knobheads amongst us, but, right at this moment, I just can't be arsed and only hope the keyboard managers don't get their way or this club is well and truly bollacksed.

The internet is just another medium for the shit media already available and a breeding ground for shitter media.