Author Topic: International Cricket 2012- 2013 - General Thread (Read 128571 times)

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #160 on:** December 21, 2009, 02:45:04 PM »

watson is scared of ghosts. That needs bringing up at every opportunity! The talk of aussies being ruthless is an interesting one. how are all captains since border viewed in oz in terms of success and popularity. for me, mark taylor always came across as a decent bloke and was no less successful than any of the others.

Chivasino · « **Reply #161 on:** December 21, 2009, 04:32:55 PM »

Well that was pretty easy even though it looked as if Sri Lanka might post an imposing total. Quality fightback from the bowlers, and Sachin just keeps going!

My mate just mailed me suggesting that Dinesh should not have hit his six and allowed Sachin to get his ton. No biggy for me.

I reminded my mate of the time when Dravid declared with Sachin on 194* against Pakistan, in Pakistan. I don't think Dravid could've made a worse decision if he tried.

John Wright on it here:

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2006/jul/31wright.htm

nicholasanthony · « **Reply #162 on:** December 22, 2009, 01:12:36 AM »

Quote from: Crosby Nick on December 21, 2009, 02:45:04 PM

watson is scared of ghosts. That needs bringing up at every opportunity! The talk of aussies being ruthless is an interesting one. how are all captains since border viewed in oz in terms of success and popularity. for me, mark taylor always came across as a decent bloke and was no less successful than any of the others.

Definitely a good bloke, shit commentator though. A diplomat but also a very good captain. I view him as a man who took over from the grumpy Border and went about making Australia a little more likable and bringing a winning mentality to the team.

Waugh to me is the greatest since border. He was what made us "ruthless", attacking, stubborn and a real leader. Continued on from Taylor and built the best team since the Windies. I personally love the man

To me, Ponting is decent at best. The man is one of the great batsmen of all time but barely does the job as captain. He inherited one of the best team of all time and still managed to lose the Ashes with it still 75% intact. His field placing is terrible, constantly leaving holes in often too defensive slip cordons and then fills the holes in it when its too late. His backing Hauritz as a spinner and not Krejza shows his poor captaincy of spinners. He would rather have a "tight" spinner than and attacking wicket taker who concedes a few. One of his claims as a captain is winning in India for the first time since 1970 was with Gilchrist as captain for the two winning games. Ponting was only given the captaincy because of one of Warne's indiscretions being in the news at the time. Shane Warne would have made on of the greatest captains of all time. He was super attacking and knew how to set a field.

Tosh · « **Reply #163 on:** December 22, 2009, 05:12:35 PM »

Imagine if Ponting were as good a captain as Stephen Fleming. The aussies would've made their change of guard seamlessly and would still be the #1 ODI and Test team.

Waugh wasn't as likeable as Taylor, but he was definitely responsible for giving the aussies that aura of invincibility. Ponting has done his best to erode that. Aussies feel much more down-to-earth and beatable these days.

Dread Breath · « **Reply #164 on:** December 23, 2009, 10:51:59 AM »

This lad, Usman Khawaja, played really well tonight in a domestic one-day game for NSW against Victoria (the biggest rivalry in Aussie cricket) - he's scored two tons already this season in the longer variety of the game for NSW and just oozes class. Selectors are apparently looking really hard at him in terms of making the Aussie squad at some stage in the future - if he makes it he'd be the first Muslim to play for our country. He was born in Pakistan but came to Sydney as a 4 year old and I think he'll be making waves in international cricket in a few years time.

McManamanamanaman · « **Reply #165 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:04:17 PM »

The Durban test on Boxing day could swing England's way, due to some dodgy political interventions dictating the South African team. Despite playing pretty badly in recent matches, Makhaya Ntini cannot be dropped because of the symbol of his skin colour. Absolutely crazy, and as this cricket blog on South Africa v England predicts, this means the in-form Friedel De Wet will be dropped to make way for the return of Dale Steyn. Still, suits England, although I'd rather we beat a full strength side than not facing dangerous players for political reasons. Damages the sport, despite the best intentions.

Raul! · « **Reply #166 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:50:46 PM »

Quote from: yorkykopite on December 12, 2009, 03:48:13 PM

Solidarity of a fat man.

The fella's good though. Raul won't agree.

He's a bloody flash in the pan.

Jookie · « **Reply #167 on:** December 23, 2009, 01:26:29 PM »

Shane Bond has announced his retirment from Test match cricket. Would have been an amazing test match bowler if it wasn't for all the injuries he suffered. Think he played less than 20 test matches in his career and got close to taking 100 wickets. Definitely could have been one of the best NZ bowlers of all time if he could have stayed away from injuries.

slickman · « **Reply #168 on:** December 23, 2009, 01:37:30 PM »

Real shame about bond really need more top class bowlers real lack of them dosent help with all these flat pitches either cant remember the last good constant between bat and ball where a batsman really had to work hard for a century even the tailenders are scoring 50's regulary nowadays.

jooneyisdagod · « **Reply #169 on:** December 25, 2009, 06:04:29 AM »

Super chase by India last night. Kohli was excellent and Gambhir played a superbly composed innings. Gambhir might not be as flamboyant or as nice to watch as the rest of the Indian batsmen but he's certainly right up there with the rest of them. He seems to be really turning a corner and maturing fast into an excellet batsman. Unbeaten 150 last night.

Chivasino · « **Reply #170 on:** December 25, 2009, 09:54:41 PM »

Quote from: jooneyisdagod on December 25, 2009, 06:04:29 AM

Super chase by India last night. Kohli was excellent and Gambhir played a superbly composed innings. Gambhir might not be as flamboyant or as nice to watch as the rest of the Indian batsmen but he's certainly right up there with the rest of them. He seems to be really turning a corner and maturing fast into an excellet batsman. Unbeaten 150 last night.

Really happy for Kohli, my namesake and a Delhite too! We need young batsman emerging with the retirement of Sachin, Rahul and VVS, in the coming years. That will be a massive void to fill.

Gambhir has been amazing for over a year now. Top, top batsman.

jooneyisdagod · « **Reply #171 on:** December 25, 2009, 11:32:00 PM »

Quote from: Chivasino on December 25, 2009, 09:54:41 PM

Really happy for Kohli, my namesake and a Delhite too! We need young batsman emerging with the retirement of Sachin, Rahul and VVS, in the coming years. That will be a massive void to fill.

Gambhir has been amazing for over a year now. Top, top batsman.

He's a bit of a cock though. The way he ran around screaming fuck off to the world after India won the U-19's WC was a disgrace. Remember Gavaskar having a right go at him for it and having seen the footage, I can't help but side with Gavaskar.

Chivasino · « **Reply #172 on:** December 25, 2009, 11:49:30 PM »

Quote from: jooneyisdagod on December 25, 2009, 11:32:00 PM

He's a bit of a cock though. The way he ran around screaming fuck off to the world after India won the U-19's WC was a disgrace. Remember Gavaskar having a right go at him for it and having seen the footage, I can't help but side with Gavaskar.

Didn't know about that. He's young and hopefully he will learn from it. Especially if Gavaskar has given him a bollocking.

jooneyisdagod · « **Reply #173 on:** December 25, 2009, 11:58:29 PM »

Quote from: Chivasino on December 25, 2009, 11:49:30 PM

Didn't know about that. He's young and hopefully he will learn from it. Especially if Gavaskar has given him a bollocking.

Yeah, hopefully he learns to curb that and play hard but fair. He does have a bit of talent in him.

gjr1 · « **Reply #174 on:** December 26, 2009, 04:40:44 AM »

Magnificent run-out of Watson for 93.

Both of them at the strikers end and replays show Katich got his foot down across the crease a millisecond ahead of Watson.

Almost feel sorry for Watson but nah, I find it quite amusing.

Ultimate Bromance · « **Reply #175 on:** December 26, 2009, 05:35:46 AM »

Katich out for 98.

Unbelievable.

masher · « **Reply #176 on:** December 26, 2009, 10:25:17 AM »

Quote from: Chivasino on December 25, 2009, 09:54:41 PM

Really happy for Kohli, my namesake and a Delhite too!

Delhite eh, that explains why he is such a twat.

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Gambhir has been amazing for over a year now. Top, top batsman.

I have always liked the look of Gambhir, i thought he wasn't given a fair opportunity when he was trying to break into the side three or four years ago. Got selected for a couple of matches and then dropped without getting a fair shot. Maybe i am a little biased becasue i had these friends in college who played with him for Modern School BK and they kept raving about how he was the next big thing.

He might not be as elegant as Laxman or Tendulkar but he is the complete package imo. Consistent, aggressive and for an opener plays spin really well. Future captain after Dhoni.

Chivasino · « **Reply #177 on:** December 26, 2009, 09:59:23 PM »

Quote from: masher on December 26, 2009, 10:25:17 AM

Delhite eh, that explains why he is such a twat.

jooneyisdagod · « **Reply #178 on:** December 27, 2009, 01:43:53 AM »

Quote from: Chivasino on December 26, 2009, 09:59:23 PM

In fairness, they have a bit of a reputation all over India ! Thats not meant to be a slight on the city itself seeing how Sehwag is quite endearing in his attitude and the same can be said of Gambhir but the Delhites do have the reputation of being cocky as hell all over the country.

Una cerveza, por favor · « **Reply #179 on:** December 27, 2009, 09:24:53 AM »

Quote from: Chivasino on December 26, 2009, 09:59:23 PM

Let it go. They are all jealous of the Punjabi flavour Delhi has!

Last ODI called off today due to dangerous pitch conditions. Blame lies wholly on the DDCA and the politics that have maligned Delhi cricket authorities.

Chivasino · « **Reply #180 on:** December 27, 2009, 07:11:26 PM »

Quote from: Una cerveza, por favor on December 27, 2009, 09:24:53 AM

They are all jealous of the Punjabi flavour Delhi has!

Indeed.

Chivasino · « **Reply #181 on:** December 28, 2009, 03:03:54 AM »

Pakistan all over the place here.

Doesn't look like they will avoid the follow-on.

Ultimate Bromance · « **Reply #182 on:** December 28, 2009, 03:46:30 AM »

Looks like they will, no chance Ponting would have enforced the follow-on here anyway.

masher · « **Reply #183 on:** December 28, 2009, 06:10:30 AM »

Looks like i touched a nerve or two there

Quote from: jooneyisdagod on December 27, 2009, 01:43:53 AM

In fairness, they have a bit of a reputation all over India ! Thats not meant to be a slight on the city itself seeing how Sehwag is quite endearing in his attitude and the same can be said of Gambhir but the Delhites do have the reputation of being cocky as hell all over the country.

Amen.

Redcap · « **Reply #184 on:** December 28, 2009, 08:59:01 AM »

Quote from: Tosh on December 22, 2009, 05:12:35 PM

Imagine if Ponting were as good a captain as Stephen Fleming. The aussies would've made their change of guard seamlessly and would still be the #1 ODI and Test team.

Waugh wasn't as likeable as Taylor, but he was definitely responsible for giving the aussies that aura of invincibility. Ponting has done his best to erode that. Aussies feel much more down-to-earth and beatable these days.

Warne should have taken over the captaincy when Waugh retired. I think it would have resulted in 2 things.

1. He may well have played for an extra couple of years, with the captain's mantle on him. That's huge. With him as captain I can't imagine Australia losing the Ashes once, let alone twice.
2. He would have had so much more influence in shepherding in the next Australian spinner. Hauritz is the kind of player the the kids watching on TV, will not want to emulate. He's not only not good enough for the team, he's won't inspire the next generation of spin bowlers.

Considering what he's said in the past about there being no need for coaches in a cricket team (something I disagree with), it's unlikely that he'll take up a position in that capacity, which is a damn shame. I can only hope that he'll take a more active role in helping raise a new spin bowler. It seems to be something the Australian selectors have simply given up on in the short run. Steven Smith was slated to come in for Hauritz for the last two games. The kid has huge potential, but it's as a batsman and not as a bowler.

Ultimate Bromance · « **Reply #185 on:** December 28, 2009, 09:45:27 AM »

Read in the paper today that Warne gave Smith a 45 minute clinic, which might be one of the reasons why the selectors brought him in.

Chivasino · « **Reply #186 on:** December 28, 2009, 02:45:42 PM »

Quote from: masher on December 28, 2009, 06:10:30 AM

Looks like i touched a nerve or two there

Not really, just a whole load of irony in your initial post.

Chivasino · « **Reply #187 on:** December 29, 2009, 03:12:32 AM »

Maiden test ton for Watson, and took his time getting there! Stuck in the ninties for ages.

Pakistan now chasing 421 to win.

Ultimate Bromance · « **Reply #188 on:** December 29, 2009, 03:43:34 AM »

He was dropped on 99 too. Mental.

bakstabba · « **Reply #189 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:47:03 AM »

How good is Aamer? Umar Akmal seems to want to hit every ball for a boundary, even in the two last overs til stumps!

nicholasanthony · « **Reply #190 on:** December 29, 2009, 08:30:20 AM »

If Hauritz doesn't take 3 wickets tomorrow then the selectors have got to bite the bullet and dump him. He is shit.

slickman · « **Reply #191 on:** December 29, 2009, 12:08:41 PM »

Wow that pakstani paceman took a 5fer only 17 years old madness

! must be the youngest ever to do that in australia, good test match this austrlia still in control but 1 big partnership and anything can happen.

sat · « **Reply #192 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:13:38 PM »

Could be a very interesting final day, a lot rests on the shoulders of Yousuf.

bakstabba · « **Reply #193 on:** December 29, 2009, 11:08:36 PM »

Quote from: nicholasanthony on December 29, 2009, 08:30:20 AM

If Hauritz doesn't take 3 wickets tomorrow then the selectors have got to bite the bullet and dump him. He is shit.

Ricky Ponting has quite a liking to Hauritz, which isn't surprising, since Hauritz is quite a defensive bowler and Ponting is at best conservative. Hauritz darts the ball in which means that he usually doesn't get a lot of spin. He also doesn't use subtle variations in bounce, pace and angle enough, unlike Sulieman Benn quite recently. I would have liked to see a more aggressive spinner like Kreyjza who you can throw the ball to to break a partnership.

I think the partnership between Umar and Yousef is the test match for me. If Australia break that partnership anytime soon, Pakistan will lose.

nicholasanthony · « **Reply #194 on:** December 30, 2009, 02:44:17 AM »

Quote from: bakstabba on December 29, 2009, 11:08:36 PM

Ricky Ponting has quite a liking to Hauritz, which isn't surprising, since Hauritz is quite a defensive bowler and Ponting is at best conservative. Hauritz darts the ball in which means that he usually doesn't get a lot of spin. He also doesn't use subtle variations in bounce, pace and angle enough, unlike Sulieman Benn quite recently. I would have liked to see a more aggressive spinner like Kreyjza who you can throw the ball to to break a partnership.

I think the partnership between Umar and Yousef is the test match for me. If Australia break that partnership anytime soon, Pakistan will lose.

Hauritz takes 5 in the second innings and saves his spot for the next test. I do totally agree with you about Hauritz though. He's good enough in a ODI match because he'll get bad shot played against him in search of runs but he doesn't have the ability to really draw mistakes in test matches.

If Hauritz were to be dropped they wouldnt put Krejza in anyway. Young Smith is for some reason the flavour of the month. Although the reason is almost definitely a mixture of playing for NSW and being able to bat (a very important characteristic for a bowler

). I personally dont understand what Jon Holland from Victoria has done to be behind Smith, certainly hasn't shown less.

Redcap · « **Reply #195 on:** December 30, 2009, 10:56:45 AM »

Quote from: nicholasanthony on December 30, 2009, 02:44:17 AM

Hauritz takes 5 in the second innings and saves his spot for the next test. I do totally agree with you about Hauritz though. He's good enough in a ODI match because he'll get bad shot played against him in search of runs but he doesn't have the ability to really draw mistakes in test matches.

If Hauritz were to be dropped they wouldnt put Krejza in anyway. Young Smith is for some reason the flavour of the month. Although the reason is almost definitely a mixture of playing for NSW and being able to bat (a very important characteristic for a bowler ). I personally dont understand what Jon Holland from Victoria has done to be behind Smith, certainly hasn't shown less.

And as you speak, young Smith takes 4-13 in a T20 game for NSW, easily his best figures at any senior level. Our spinners may just get there yet Nicolas, just keep talking

Gotta say goodbye to Holland though, you've doomed him

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #196 on:** December 30, 2009, 11:01:17 AM »

Quote from: Crosby Nick on December 21, 2009, 02:45:04 PM

watson is scared of ghosts. That needs bringing up at every opportunity!

Yes. As does the rumour that this was just an excuse for him being found in Brett Lee's room late at night.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #197 on:** December 30, 2009, 07:25:47 PM »

whether it was ghosts or brett lee it's clear that something had put the willies up him!

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #198 on:** December 30, 2009, 10:04:54 PM »

Quote from: Crosby Nick on December 30, 2009, 07:25:47 PM

whether it was ghosts or brett lee it's clear that something had put the willies up him!

Ultimate Bromance · « **Reply #199 on:** January 3, 2010, 03:50:37 AM »

Pakistan started brilliantly here, got the Australian top order back in the shed, Aus on the ropes at 14/3. Wonderful bowling, the outswinger to get Watson was sublime.