Red and White Kop

Author Topic: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.  (Read 1504 times)

Offline Rafas3leggedtable

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,307
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« on: October 24, 2009, 08:08:51 PM »
Trying too hard.

Wanting it too badly.

Feeling as though each every day thing you have done the last 24 hours somehow has some bearing on the outcome of tomorrow’s game. Of course it doesn’t. Still we do it though – now is time to be calm, take a deep breath and take stock.

Reading the Paul Tomkins meeting with Rafa this week has just reinforced what I already knew. We have a top man, a genuine and good-hearted man, at the helm of this club. He lives and breathes it and deserves, commands and gets (in most parts) our respect.

Second in line is a more local figure head, but no more passionate than Rafa in terms of Liverpool and the city. Sammy Lee is the lungs and pulse, keeping the players from the edge of failure.

Thirdly we have Kenny, the King, the arms and legs of this club now reaching out, taking us to new places and meeting new friends, extending the hand and greeting old ones.

With these three we cannot fail. Let’s not get too hung up about tomorrow, or the next game. Relax, keep the faith, have the belief, and inhale and consume all the calmness that Tomkins returned with him on Wednesday. We are in good hands and sometimes we need reminding.

Yesterday, whilst interviewing supporters in the city centre, a local man simply said that ‘every true Liverpool fan is behind Rafa…. he has been good for Liverpool and the city and knows us’.

And there you have it. 50 years ago a sure of himself man from a Scottish mining village came in to Liverpool and had to spend the early years transforming the out of touch club. The man we have now does know us – he has been here before.


The people of Liverpool are workers. This is not a rich town where everyone lives a comfortable life. They work hard for themselves, and this is what we at Liverpool like to do. This is the attitude we must all have.

Offline ferris05

  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 598
  • Gender: Male
  • A Waterloo-ite
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2009, 08:17:57 PM »
Great post.
Made me feel better than the "Let's twat these manc bastards" thread.  :)
There is no great genius without some touch of madness

Offline BCCC

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,949
  • Gender: Male
  • "True or false.. Spartacus was a gobshite?"
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2009, 08:22:24 PM »
Great post.
Made me feel better than the "Let's twat these manc bastards" thread.  :)

Rafa is an avid reader of the "Lets Twat These" threads and actively encourages the team to post in them..

Offline MerseysideRedsFan

  • Anny Roader
  • ***
  • Posts: 428
  • Gender: Male
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2009, 08:26:47 PM »
Good post, We are Liverpool, we will be there at the top, may be not today, may be not tomorrow, but I'll bet once we are there, we will stay there for a long long time.
Five days shalt thou labour, as the Bible says. The seventh day is the Lord thy God's. The sixth day is for football.

Offline Madagascherano

  • Anny Roader
  • ***
  • Posts: 351
  • Gender: Male
  • And now you're gonna believe us..
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2009, 08:50:40 PM »
Good read cheers mate.
We have the best man around for the job. Bar none.
Season will kick back into life tomorrow, after beating the horrid mancs!
Come on REDMEN

Offline FrancisTierney

  • Anny Roader
  • ***
  • Posts: 379
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2009, 08:58:20 PM »
LETS TWAT THESE HORRIBLE, ARROGANT, TOO BIG FOR THE FA CUP, RAT INFESTED, MANC FUCKING BASTARDS.
I WOULD SWAP ALONSO'S BOOTLACE FOR MASCHERANO.

Offline BCCC

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,949
  • Gender: Male
  • "True or false.. Spartacus was a gobshite?"
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 09:01:02 PM »
LETS TWAT THESE HORRIBLE, ARROGANT, TOO BIG FOR THE FA CUP, RAT INFESTED, MANC FUCKING BASTARDS.

Dirk... is that you??

Offline zamagiure

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,125
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 09:01:20 PM »
LETS TWAT THESE HORRIBLE, ARROGANT, TOO BIG FOR THE FA CUP, RAT INFESTED, MANC FUCKING BASTARDS.
The first two words of this thread.
mines a pint

Offline Daniel Cabbaggio

  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 999
  • Gender: Male
  • Pass and move, keep it simple = 18 & 5
    • View Profile
    • www.redandwhitekop.com
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 09:04:00 PM »
My faith will always be constant
Rafa is the only man for us




fin..

Gillette, Hicks, The Board



Your time is Fucking up

Offline vicgill

  • alias "redvic"
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,127
  • Gender: Male
  • "Football is the simplest game in the world son"
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2009, 08:09:03 AM »
My faith will always be constant
Rafa is the only man for us






fin..



Totally agree
"Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and making yourself available to receive a pass, it is really that simple"

Online PhilV

  • No new LFC topics
  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 714
  • Gender: Male
  • The 12th Man
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2009, 08:38:11 AM »
top thread, well done, in Rafa I trust, I really do, those interviews were awesome cause i think it was just a revelation of what people already suspected, he cares for the club, I really do believe that, we just have the ownership/finance problem, we will sort it out tho, somehow... i have faith.
PSN: randomPHIL

Offline PassAndMove

  • Whinge and Moan
  • Anny Roader
  • ***
  • Posts: 346
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2009, 08:40:59 AM »
Fives years and counting, no title... he would never be afforded such time at any big club in Europe. He is more of a lucky man than the right man.

Offline seanspool

  • Kemlynite
  • *
  • Posts: 35
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2009, 08:44:06 AM »
Rafa will get it right, if the panicers do not drive him out....

Offline florida red

  • Anny Roader
  • ***
  • Posts: 270
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2009, 08:46:07 AM »
Fives years and counting, no title... he would never be afforded such time at any big club in Europe. He is more of a lucky man than the right man.

 :butt
supporting rafa til the end .

Offline PassAndMove

  • Whinge and Moan
  • Anny Roader
  • ***
  • Posts: 346
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2009, 08:48:47 AM »
:butt

Care to name the club who would give him 5 years without a title and counting? or 3 years without a trophy despite outspending United and Arsenal in his time here?

Offline M.Prithvi

  • Is back... and having an identity crisis.
  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 905
  • Gender: Male
  • Red or be Dead. ;-)
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2009, 08:53:46 AM »
Good post.

Yes,Rafa is the man for us!And,lets keep the faith as we do always!

IN RAFA WE TRUST
Thank you,Rafa.YNWA.

Offline M.Prithvi

  • Is back... and having an identity crisis.
  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 905
  • Gender: Male
  • Red or be Dead. ;-)
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2009, 08:55:41 AM »
Quote
Fives years and counting, no title... he would never be afforded such time at any big club in Europe. He is more of a lucky man than the right man.


one Istanbul is equivalent to 2 premier league titles ;)

Thank you,Rafa.YNWA.

Offline kingmonkey007

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,768
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2009, 08:57:45 AM »
Care to name the club who would give him 5 years without a title and counting? or 3 years without a trophy despite outspending United and Arsenal in his time here?

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=249008.0
God would have mercy,.... Martin Škrtel wouldn't!

Offline capt k

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,512
  • Gender: Male
  • id rather be fishing
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2009, 08:57:54 AM »
Care to name the club who would give him 5 years without a title and counting? or 3 years without a trophy despite outspending United and Arsenal in his time here?

Liverpool... dont forget WE are a big club in Europe
JFT 96

NEVER BUY THE S*N

Offline Uhoh AureliOs

  • kids have broken my legs.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,676
  • Gender: Male
  • Fabio!
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2009, 09:01:30 AM »
I thought this was a good read and had a similar title to this thread.


Why Rafael Benitez is immune to the pressure despite Liverpool’s dire form

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/english-football/why-rafael-benitez-is-immune-to-the-pressure-despite-liverpool-s-dire-form-1.928377

Gabriele Marcotti


Published on 25 Oct 2009

Before we get carried away, let’s remind ourselves: Rafa Benitez has been here before.

In 1996, he was sacked after winning just two of 23 games at Real Valladolid. The following season, he was at Osasuna: one win in nine, then the bullet.

That was pressure. Real pressure. He was a 35-year-old manager getting his first crack at professional football, unsure of whether he could make the grade. And making the grade mattered not just to him, but to his family. He was a mediocre semi-professional footballer who, at age 26, chose to throw himself headfirst into coaching. Ask him about pressure and the fear of losing his job and that’s what he would tell you. That was pressure. This is nothing.

There are many reasons why he feels immune to pressure. But it’s not because one of his employers, George Gillett, said “he was the best in the business”. Nor is it because Kenny Dalglish, Liverpool’s resident legend, confirmed his job was not in danger. And, believe it or not, it’s also not because he knows full well that he’s simply too expensive to sack: letting him go would cost Liverpool some £20 million, an unthinkable sum for a cash-strapped club with two owners who don’t get along and view each other with suspicion.

No, the main reason he feels immune to pressure is that he believes that his way of doing things will, ultimately, yield results. Like a gambler who develops a system and knows he needs to stick with it even through a bad run, Benitez perseveres. His eyes tell him that Jamie Carragher has lost a step and isn’t the player he was a few years ago, his mind and his charts tell him that he remains one of the most athletic players in the side and that the current slide is just a blip. His eyes tell him that Lucas looks entirely overmatched as a holding midfielder, his mind and his charts tell him the Brazilian is bound to grow into the position. His eyes tell him that Dirk Kuyt simply can’t fill in for Fernando Torres when his centre-forward is sidelined, his mind and his charts conclude that the Dutchman is, in fact, a reliable striker when played up front.



Albert Einstein famously defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Benitez would probably differ and refer Einstein to his experience at Valencia in 2001/02, when he won La Liga (over Zinedine Zidane’s European champions Real Madrid, no less) with a side whose top scorer notched just seven goals, despite enduring insults and criticism all year long. That experience proved to Benitez that his way could work and that, once you’ve found the secret to success, you’d be mad to let it slip from your grasp or betray it by trying something different.

Four consecutive losses have resulted in many calling for his head. And, to make matters worse, today Anfield welcomes the last side in the universe you want to face when you’ve lost four straight: Manchester United. A fifth defeat on the bounce would make it Liverpool’s worst run since 1953, the year they were relegated from the top flight.

“I am not worried,” he says. “I know what to do. We need to win a few games to lift the mood. And then we have to work hard to do things in the right way. Once we’ve done that – and I’m sure we will – everything will be OK.”

In some ways, it appears ludicrous that his position should be under threat. Nobody – with the exception of Mr. Ferguson and Bob Paisley – has taken an English club to more Champions League/European Cup finals than he has. Only Dalglish has won more matches in his first 200 games in charge at Anfield than he has. What’s more, Benitez has done it during one of the most turbulent times in the club’s recent history, with an unstable ownership structure and a horrendous burden of debt. And he’s done it while matched against Ferguson, Arsene Wenger and Jose Mourinho: arguably the English game has never had three managers of such stature competing against each other at any one time.

Yet when you look at the way in which he has achieved his success, his position looks less secure. Benitez has defied conventional wisdom time and again. Most top European sides have a serviceable back-up centre-forward. Benitez has David N’Gog, a 20-year-old kid who has scored four league goals in his entire career. The alternative is taking Kuyt and playing him up front, causing disruption in midfield. Speaking of midfield, the decision to replace the departed holding midfielder Xabi Alonso with the attacking midfielder Alberto Aquilani is equally mystifying. Playing Fabio Aurelio, a left-back, in central midfield was another X-Files sort of move.

Coupled with this is a transfer policy which, more often than not, has backfired badly. He spent a combined £40m on Andrea Dossena, Ryan Babel and the now-departed Robbie Keane, three guys who have contributed close to nothing at Anfield. And he has signed dozens of teenagers from around the globe in the hopes of emulating Arsene Wenger. Thus far, Emiliano Insua is the only one to have made a mark on the first team. Meanwhile a gaggle of others you’ve probably never heard of – Nikolay Mihaylov, Sebastian Leto, Ronald Huth, Astrit Ajdarevic, Marvin Pourie, Gabriel Paletta, Antonio Barragan – have come and gone.

The flipside of this, of course, is that despite everything Benitez still manages to put out a very competitive team, one capable of advancing deep into the Champions League each season while coming within a few points of Manchester United in the Premier League last year. If Benitez could do all this while making a hash of his transfers, imagine what he can achieve if he starts getting this right.

That very logic might be part of what keeps him in a job. But while he may not be feeling the pressure, his owners certainly are, courtesy of the tens of thousands who are expected to protest ahead of the match today. And as the screws turn on them, you can see a scenario developing where the axe falls on Benitez. Not now, maybe not next month, but if things don’t start to improve, Gillett and Tom Hicks may feel they have no other option. That’s how high the stakes are.

Failure to qualify for next year’s Champions League would mean taking a £40m hit. And that’s a darn sight more expensive than the £20m it would take to see off Benitez. A club like Liverpool, with outstanding debts set to mature in the next six months and creditors knocking at the Anfield door simply can’t afford it. (Unless, of course, the owners put more of their own money in, which they have indicated they will not do). If things reach a point where a shake-up is needed to pursue the top four, they may well be tempted to pull the trigger and gamble upon somebody else, maybe King Kenny himself (whether he’d be tempted is another matter).

But that day is not here yet. For the time being, as Benitez sees it, Liverpool are simply a team three points away from fourth place in the Premier League and with a tough task ahead in the Champions League. Tough? Sure. But manageable, as long as he sticks to the Benitez Way.
Join the Union  ||  Save Liverpool FC || Our Club, Our Shirt

http://dontbuythesun.co.uk/

PSN: UhohAurelios || Join Betfair using code RV3UK3Q9D for a free £25

Online The G in Gerrard

  • Rapidly approaching 10,000+ posts, each one shitter than the last
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,186
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2009, 09:03:20 AM »
Fives years and counting, no title... he would never be afforded such time at any big club in Europe. He is more of a lucky man than the right man.

WUM
Need a betfair referral code PM me!!
Well, you have a wonderful opportunity here. You can either not post your 'bets', count your 'winnings' but still make me question if you're bullshitting or not, or you can post them, and make me look like a twat.
Your call.

Offline PassAndMove

  • Whinge and Moan
  • Anny Roader
  • ***
  • Posts: 346
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2009, 09:03:35 AM »

Offline kingmonkey007

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,768
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2009, 09:10:06 AM »
Oh yeah right, look at the 1% 25 years ago and ignore the other 99%. Ha Ha.

You asked for a big club who gave their manager time, so i gave one.

This is Liverpool FC we dont follow other teams as examples, we set them so if you dont like the way Liverpool FC do things which is sticking by their managers/players (just like a family) then go and follow Real Madrid.
God would have mercy,.... Martin Škrtel wouldn't!

Offline jamiehill

  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 831
  • Gender: Male
  • MacIntyre, Treadmore and Davitt
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2009, 10:34:02 AM »
Care to name the club who would give him 5 years without a title and counting? or 3 years without a trophy despite outspending United and Arsenal in his time here?

Drip.
The English club proved that miracles really do exist. I've now made Liverpool my English team. They showed that football is the most beautiful sport of all. They showed their unconditional support at half-time when they were losing 3-0 and still they didn't stop singing." Diego Maradona

Offline Johnnyboy1973

  • RAWK's Media Assassin. Eat your heart out Jerry Maguire
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,639
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • User is on moderator watch listWatched
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2009, 10:43:53 AM »
Fives years and counting, no title... he would never be afforded such time at any big club in Europe. He is more of a lucky man than the right man.

No post between Feb 21st and Aug 8th this year - I wonder why.

At least we can take solace in the fact that one we start winning again you'll crawl back up your arse as you did last season.
If she was my daughter, I'd still be bathing her.

Offline jamiehill

  • Kopite
  • ****
  • Posts: 831
  • Gender: Male
  • MacIntyre, Treadmore and Davitt
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2009, 11:07:23 AM »
No post between Feb 21st and Aug 8th this year - I wonder why.

At least we can take solace in the fact that one we start winning again you'll crawl back up your arse as you did last season.

Says it all really.
The English club proved that miracles really do exist. I've now made Liverpool my English team. They showed that football is the most beautiful sport of all. They showed their unconditional support at half-time when they were losing 3-0 and still they didn't stop singing." Diego Maradona

Online Mr Rossi

  • So poor he uses white dog poo as chalk. Head like a walnut. Cat lovin weirdo.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,757
  • Gender: Male
  • Loves a good earlobe.
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2009, 11:54:42 AM »
Care to name the club who would give him 5 years without a title and counting? or 3 years without a trophy despite outspending United and Arsenal in his time here?

Arsenal
On the internet, men are men, women are men, and children are the CIA.

Offline PassAndMove

  • Whinge and Moan
  • Anny Roader
  • ***
  • Posts: 346
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2009, 12:12:58 PM »
Arsenal

Arsenal haven't outspent United or Liverpool over the past 5 years even including wages so what's your point? They are perenial scroungers and sellers of their best players - you can't put them up their with the continents biggest clubs. Just this summer gone they made huge profits on buying/selling but I don't see people mentioning that.

Offline GirishIII

  • Kemlynite
  • *
  • Posts: 24
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2009, 12:16:55 PM »
I just dont know, rafa is such a rolla coaster, he has shown how hes world class in the past, but he has also shown why he has much to learn. I think we should give him to the end of next season, before giving up on him.

Online Mr Rossi

  • So poor he uses white dog poo as chalk. Head like a walnut. Cat lovin weirdo.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,757
  • Gender: Male
  • Loves a good earlobe.
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2009, 12:43:22 PM »
Arsenal haven't outspent United or Liverpool over the past 5 years even including wages so what's your point? They are perenial scroungers and sellers of their best players - you can't put them up their with the continents biggest clubs. Just this summer gone they made huge profits on buying/selling but I don't see people mentioning that.

You said name another club that would give a manager 5 years without winning the title, I gave you one. As for their size, they are the 3rd most successful team in the country and have great traditions so i'd say they were pretty big despite how much they choose to spend.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2009, 12:49:03 PM by Mr Rossi »
On the internet, men are men, women are men, and children are the CIA.

Offline Gareth

  • This spaceman left intentionally blank.
  • RAWK Staff.
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 27,757
  • Gender: Male
  • Alas wor Bobby, I knew him so well.
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2009, 12:58:30 PM »
Care to name the club who would give him 5 years without a title and counting? or 3 years without a trophy despite outspending United and Arsenal in his time here?

Arsenal or Utd?

Care to explain how we can suddenly outspend a club that generates twice as much income us us due to a 75K capacity stadium and a rampant commercial setup?

Don't get involved in all that net spend / gross spend bollocks guessed in papers. Waste of time - it's clear as day we do not compete on the same financial level as Utd. If we do, can you tell me how we are bridging that income gap? Are the Yanks surreptitiously chucking millions into the club?
BOYCOTT RAWK

Offline conman

  • Ohh aaaah just a little bit, Ooh aahh, a little bit more
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,960
  • Gender: Male
  • scooby dooby doo, where are u
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2009, 01:25:33 PM »
well said... Rafa is the only man
the cock comes out in the morning singing kikiriki :D

http://golf-tripping.blogspot.com/

Offline vicgill

  • alias "redvic"
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,127
  • Gender: Male
  • "Football is the simplest game in the world son"
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2009, 01:31:58 PM »
Fives years and counting, no title... he would never be afforded such time at any big club in Europe. He is more of a lucky man than the right man.

Care to name the club who would give him 5 years without a title and counting? or 3 years without a trophy despite outspending United and Arsenal in his time here?

Oh yeah right, look at the 1% 25 years ago and ignore the other 99%. Ha Ha.

Arsenal haven't outspent United or Liverpool over the past 5 years even including wages so what's your point? They are perenial scroungers and sellers of their best players - you can't put them up their with the continents biggest clubs. Just this summer gone they made huge profits on buying/selling but I don't see people mentioning that.

You are George Gillette and I claim the 5 pounds.
"Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and making yourself available to receive a pass, it is really that simple"

Offline Rafas3leggedtable

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,307
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Keeping calm and keeping faith. Rafa is the right man.
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2009, 08:16:07 PM »
and breathe..
The people of Liverpool are workers. This is not a rich town where everyone lives a comfortable life. They work hard for themselves, and this is what we at Liverpool like to do. This is the attitude we must all have.