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Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« on: October 24, 2009, 01:37:22 PM »
Javier Mascherano wants Liverpool to follow Argentina’s example, insisting the under-pressure Reds must forget about their four successive defeats and concentrate on beating Manchester United tomorrow.

The midfielder wants Liverpool – in the midst of their worst run for 22 years - to be inspired by Argentina’s last-ditch qualification for the 2010 World Cup finals ahead of the Barclays Premier League clash at Anfield.

Boss Rafael Benitez’s management has been openly questioned this week, although Mascherano has made it clear that the fault lies with the players, not the manager.

And the Argentina captain can see a parallel between his country’s dramatic late qualification for South Africa and Liverpool’s current crisis.

He said: “I am relaxed now that Argentina have qualified for the World Cup finals, I can concentrate only on Liverpool.

“I can think of Liverpool and not Argentina. This is not a good situation at the club, and I want to give Liverpool my best.

“I am captain of my country, and we were really under pressure in the final two qualifying games; people said we were out, that was very difficult.

“But we won both those games. We have qualified. Maybe it will be the same for Liverpool now if we start to win, things will start to happen for us like they did for my country.

“We must not think of the past. We must beat United for ourselves, for our supporters, for the team. We must keep going.”

Liverpool, who suffered a 1-0 Champions League loss to Lyon in midweek, expect to have Fernando Torres and Glen Johnson back from injury, but captain Steven Gerrard is a serious worry with his groin problem.

Mascherano added: “We have a very important game now with Manchester United. We must stop thinking and worrying about what happened against Lyon.

“If we can beat United then the confidence will be back, it is important to do that. We beat them twice last season. We know what we are capable of. Hopefully our form will be like that on Sunday.

“We have to do the right things and put away our chances. It is a difficult situation, we have lost four in a row. But do not forget that is a team who last season were doing very well, we must keep going and working.

“We must win the next game, against Manchester United. If you have confidence you can do anything.

“The team is not playing well, and a lot of players are not in the best form. That is not good and we are losing confidence, but we have to believe that we can overcome this.”

He added: “Even without Steven, or Fernando, we believe we can still win matches. We won a lot of games last season without the pair of them on the pitch together.

“But obviously they are our key players and we do need them back against United. We are trying all the time to give our best. Maybe now we have to show character, personality and hard work.

“It is difficult. Liverpool is not a team that loses a lot of games. Now we have lost six games this season, that is different for us and difficult.

“We cannot let that bother us. We must think only of winning on Sunday. That will bring back the confidence. We can still win the league, but we must start winning and stop dropping so many points.”


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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2009, 01:39:02 PM »
Can't wait for the Rafa swallow dive when the winner goes in...

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2009, 01:42:25 PM »
Can't wait for the Rafa swallow dive when the winner goes in...

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2009, 01:51:07 PM »
Liverpool, who suffered a 1-0 Champions League loss to Lyon in midweek, expect to have Fernando Torres and Glen Johnson back from injury, but captain Steven Gerrard is a serious worry with his groin problem.

Seriously how hard is it to go onto UEFAS site and fucking check a scoreline?

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Mascherano can start by being the influence we are missing from midfield as well. He's the captain of Argentina and a world class player on his day, he should be the motivation when we're missing Gerrard and Torres. Same goes for Kuyt this season as well. Someone needs to fucking take the team by the scruff of the neck when it has a couple of fringe players in it, some returning from lengthy touchline spells and a couple out of form.

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2009, 01:53:47 PM »
He said: “I am relaxed now that Argentina have qualified for the World Cup finals, I can concentrate only on Liverpool.

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2009, 01:54:17 PM »
I really hope Masch does step it up a level, starting tomorrow would be nice. As said above, he's one of the players that should be leading by example when Stevie isn't there or things aren't going well for us.

A goal tomorrow would be nice.

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 01:56:24 PM »
Well that's nice Javier. Welcome back to your day job - where have you been for 2 months?

Indeed. Really gone off Javi, with his poor mentality over the past few months.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 01:56:40 PM »
Well that's nice Javier. Welcome back to your day job - where have you been for 2 months?
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 01:57:17 PM »
Well that's nice Javier. Welcome back to your day job - where have you been for 2 months?

Yeah, I thought that didn't came out right for him.
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 02:04:04 PM »
masch to score the winner tomorrow
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 02:14:24 PM »
mascherano finally looked like his old self against lyon - if he can start dominating the midfield like we know he can - that will certainly help the entire team.

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 02:40:27 PM »
Yeah, but if Liverpool do win then Rafa's post-match press conference will probably get him banned for life!

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2009, 02:43:28 PM »
I've completely lost all respect really for masch; if he can't see what this club has done for him then he can piss off and follow turncoat alonso to sunny spain.

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2009, 03:15:07 PM »
Agree with most of the sentiments on here, he's let us all down over the last few months and it's pretty clear where his priorities lie.
 He did perform well against Lyon but I still expect him gone in the summer.

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2009, 03:18:15 PM »
Good stuff Monster. Now get your form back so you can get that dream move to Barcelona, there's a good lad.  :thumbup

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2009, 03:18:48 PM »
Come on prove your words Mash and prove us wrong by being an absolute pitball tomorrow!
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2009, 03:22:40 PM »
Indeed. Really gone off Javi, with his poor mentality over the past few months.

Ditto - just hope he wins his way back into our hearts, a dominating performance tomorrow will do nicely.
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2009, 03:24:48 PM »
Can't wait for the Rafa swallow dive when the winner goes in...

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2009, 03:27:13 PM »
From one of my favourite players, Mascherano has now become a player I feel anger for. His agent's continuous declarations and his regular periods of poor form over the last 18 months are making it very difficult for me to keep trusting him.
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2009, 03:29:49 PM »
Well that's nice Javier. Welcome back to your day job - where have you been for 2 months?

This is the problem with the old Club vs Country thing. I recall having the same conversation with a friend from London. She was very Ingerlund, all foam hands and flags out of her window, etc. I asked her if she would be happy if her beloved John Terry came out and state that he valued England more than he valued Chelsea (she was a Chelsea fan) and she said "Yes. England is important. Your country is so much more important than your club."

I didn't understand the sentiment because quite frankly I never saw England as that important. The majority of people I know feel the same way. England? Well, they secondary, aren't they? To us, Club comes firmly before Country. We have a player in Carra who will come out and openly state that, to him, Club comes before Country. Unfortunately, this is not true for all. Clearly, this is not true for Mascherano.

It's just kind of unfortunate that he chose to phrase it this way. Tis a shame that he had to highlight the fact that it is only now he can settle down and do what he's paid to do, i.e. focus on his job and not the perk that comes alongside it.

Can only hope he starts performing, now. He hasn't been himself for months.
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2009, 03:56:13 PM »
It's just kind of unfortunate that he chose to phrase it this way. Tis a shame that he had to highlight the fact that it is only now he can settle down and do what he's paid to do, i.e. focus on his job and not the perk that comes alongside it.

Argentinians are an interesting beast. Players of Mascherano's generation owe a lot to the legacy of José Pekerman. He knew it would be difficult to stop their best talent from being poached by top European clubs, so he set about indoctrinating young players about the pride of playing for Argentina from an early age.

Very hard to be dispassionate about that though when one of your senior players (and a leader of men) hasn't been turning up.
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2009, 04:14:56 PM »
Argentinians are an interesting beast. Players of Mascherano's generation owe a lot to the legacy of José Pekerman. He knew it would be difficult to stop their best talent from being poached by top European clubs, so he set about indoctrinating young players about the pride of playing for Argentina from an early age.

Very hard to be dispassionate about that though when one of your senior players (and a leader of men) hasn't been turning up.

To be honest, I don't think that Maradona has helped in this matter either. For awhile, not so long ago, it seemed that every sentence that came out of his mouth started with 'Mascherano'. Offered to build a team around him, stated that he is a shining example, etc etc. His teamsheet, Mascherano and ten others. He'd never get that at club level (at least not where he is). That kind of confidence from a man who is a legend to many from his homeland; that must've had some kind of impact. Those words gave him a responsibility.

I'd be delighted if I were an Argie. As a Liverpool supporter, however? It leaves a bitter taste in the mouth to know that his club games will never mean as much to him as those internationals; that, given the choice, he'd burn himself out with them, not us.
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2009, 04:17:13 PM »
I could imagine Rafa sitting down tomorrow afternoon, and saying "I can tell you this, alll the journalists that doubted me, you can all go fuck yourselves, no?"

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2009, 04:31:44 PM »
Masch certainly owes us some good performances. He hasn't looked at the races at most of the matches so far.

I can see him going to Barca in the summer. Hope we are looking for his replacement now

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2009, 04:37:14 PM »
i think we already are following argentinas example play shite and scrap fourth place
i've been wondering for a long time, what the fuck is that wet spot in the middle of kelly's shirt?  a lot of our players have them, i've noticed, glen johnson in particular.  is it snot? do they blow their noses in their shirts?

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2009, 04:38:21 PM »
i think we already are following argentinas example play shite and scrap fourth place

He/she says with seven months of the season left. We're not quite there, yet.
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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2009, 04:39:52 PM »
Masch certainly owes us some good performances. He hasn't looked at the races at most of the matches so far.

I can see him going to Barca in the summer. Hope we are looking for his replacement now


agree. I actually wouldnt be as dissapointed if this is the case as i would say a year ago.
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2009, 04:59:38 PM »
Can't wait for the Rafa swallow dive when the winner goes in...

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« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2009, 05:17:49 PM »
Masch is a C$nt mercenary, but he´ll play a blinder against United.
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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2009, 05:26:12 PM »
Not just Masch that needs to "step up to the plate" tomorrow.

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« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2009, 05:33:07 PM »
He/she says with seven months of the season left. We're not quite there, yet.
yes it was a pisstake, i think at the very very worst we will come 3rd.
i've been wondering for a long time, what the fuck is that wet spot in the middle of kelly's shirt?  a lot of our players have them, i've noticed, glen johnson in particular.  is it snot? do they blow their noses in their shirts?

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2009, 06:06:47 PM »
Argentinians are an interesting beast. Players of Mascherano's generation owe a lot to the legacy of José Pekerman. He knew it would be difficult to stop their best talent from being poached by top European clubs, so he set about indoctrinating young players about the pride of playing for Argentina from an early age.

Don't think that's a generational thing at all. That's the way it's always been. All players are supposed/expected/demanded to put country before club in the Americas especially from Mexico on down and the argies in particular have always been ultra nationalistic. Double emphasis on ultra.

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« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2009, 06:07:39 PM »
Masch is a C$nt mercenary, but he´ll play a blinder against United.

He's a mercenary because he allegedly showed interest in joining Barcelona?

Hmm. Couldn't have had anything to do with the fact they won bloody everything last year, could it? HAD to be for money...
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« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2009, 06:20:25 PM »
Masch certainly owes us some good performances. He hasn't looked at the races at most of the matches so far.

I can see him going to Barca in the summer. Hope we are looking for his replacement now

To be fair, he's far from the only player to 'not be at the races' so far this season. Bar Reina, Yossi and 1 or 2 others everyone has been poorer than they were last season.

There's no doubt his head was turned by Barca but I'm not convinced that's necessarilly the reason he has been playing poorly.

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« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2009, 06:22:21 PM »
There's no doubt his head was turned by Barca but I'm not convinced that's necessarilly the reason he has been playing poorly.

It's because of Lucas. He doesn't pass to him because he thinks Lucas is rubbish.

Someone on here actually suggested that I think, off the back of a Guardian Chalkboard ;D
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« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2009, 06:23:58 PM »
I can't for the life of me understand the critisism he's taking now. He was twice as bad last season, easilly.

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« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2009, 06:51:33 PM »
He's a mercenary because he allegedly showed interest in joining Barcelona?

Hmm. Couldn't have had anything to do with the fact they won bloody everything last year, could it? HAD to be for money...

That means fuck all, there far from being the biggest club in the world; everyone seems to think Barca are the greatest think in football. well there not. there not even half the size of Real Madrid or Milan for that matter. and there behind us as well.
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« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2009, 06:58:53 PM »
That means fuck all, there far from being the biggest club in the world; everyone seems to think Barca are the greatest think in football. well there not. there not even half the size of Real Madrid or Milan for that matter. and there behind us as well.

I suspect it was a mixture of several things - playing in a very good and successful Barcelona team,  Camp Nou, money/tax and, most importantly, the Latin culture.

To us LFC is one of the biggest and most prestigious football clubs out there, but to Argentinians it stands to reason they'll more likely gravitate naturally to Spanish clubs.

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« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2009, 07:20:17 PM »

That's a ridiculous thing to say. La Liga is no worse than the PL and Barca are worthy Champions of Europe.

Yeh, I fully agree that there worthy champions of europe. But what I was tryin to say is that everyone knows that la liga is much slower and physical than the premiership, and a player like mascherano, who loves the physical side of the game, would thrive over there and probably stand out as a better player

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Re: Mascherano: Argentina an example to Reds
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2009, 07:26:19 PM »
Can't wait till he leaves.