Author Topic: Alcohol Issues (Read 214445 times)

24/7 · « **Reply #920 on:** April 23, 2010, 05:27:09 PM »

Alright Rigga - ta for that.........

Just wanted to clarify that I'm not facing alcoholism, just the realisation that drinking for drinking's sake, as Chopper said, is an "empty experience" - and down that road problems lie. It's not a journey I want to start on.

It's more a case of the temptation and the battle to resist it. Bad Things can happen after a morose session. Sleep is the more sensible option.

Rigga · « **Reply #921 on:** April 23, 2010, 05:58:04 PM »

Quote from: 24/7 on April 23, 2010, 05:27:09 PM

Alright Rigga - ta for that.........

Just wanted to clarify that I'm not facing alcoholism, just the realisation that drinking for drinking's sake, as Chopper said, is an "empty experience" - and down that road problems lie. It's not a journey I want to start on.

It's more a case of the temptation and the battle to resist it. Bad Things can happen after a morose session. Sleep is the more sensible option.

I wasn't directing it all at you, Jim, I didn't think I'd seen you in here in that mind-set.

Sorry for the confusion

And, like you said, morose sessions can make bad things happen. And, by that logic, if Einstein's right, a good session would result in good things happening. It's just that, until you know yourself, how can you be in a position to judge what's good or bad for you? If you're so far past society's definition, and you need a drink to get to the point of liking yourself, just do the right thing when you get to that point, instead of getting to the point of clarity and deciding "I'm a c*nt", "I'm a drunk", "I should be doing...", "If only I'd...", etc etc.

I got there by breathing, smoking weed, listening to music, and observing everything around me. For each a road...

I went and stayed round the mate's house the other night. Sat up all night, went through 2 cases of beer and smoked an absolute shit load! Left at 9 in the morning, with no sleep, absolutely sober as a judge. I only had a few hours last night, and I still feel great.

It's all in the mind.

AndyInVA · « **Reply #922 on:** May 4, 2010, 06:58:15 PM »

This summer is looking like its going to be a total bastard to be a npn drinker.

My one pleasure in lfe last year was coming home from work, having something to eat then sitting out in a beatiful evening and drinking my way to slow but pleasant merry oblivion.

Not drinking has really limited my ability to do that anymore and just plain sitting there without drink seems impossible.

I am already wondering what to do and it looks like helping my wife in the garden seems like the last resort. I have take, in fact up refereeing as well which keeps me out of the house for longer.

It really has me worried that the most compelling reason to drink is definetly the good weather and the upcoming world cup.

So far manaaged to stay alcohol free but it just does not get any easier, in fact it seems to get harder every day.

And Could He Play · « **Reply #923 on:** May 4, 2010, 08:24:48 PM »

Smashed it all weekend.

JaimeLeCarragher · « **Reply #924 on:** May 5, 2010, 12:17:02 AM »

Quote from: Harvest Fields on April 23, 2010, 05:08:17 PM

ahhhh cops are here. so am i. time to fucking rumble. later Rawkites. ill take the fucking lot out.

Harvest any news. I hope that wasn't literal when you said that before...

cj · « **Reply #925 on:** May 6, 2010, 09:36:42 PM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 4, 2010, 08:24:48 PM

Smashed it all weekend.

While I'm not in the same league as yourself or Harvest Fields I also drink myself silly at least once-twice a week. So I'm familiar with the pull alcohol can have on you when you have accepted it as your only source of relaxation/celebration/contemplation etc.

Then again I've seen close friends lose all their ambitions while smoking weed as well. So perhaps it's something about drugs across the board, depending on ammount and personality.

Either way, you are a father. I know you've had quite a stormy relationship with the mother of your child (reading some previous posts), I can understand you feeling bad about it. But in the end, you have to get it toghether for your kid, that's all there is to it.

And Could He Play · « **Reply #926 on:** May 7, 2010, 03:13:03 PM »

good post mate, thing is i have dramatically cut down, from every night to maybe twice a week, i'll get there in the end. Ironic thing is i'm out tonight. Starting at 6.30pm.

cj · « **Reply #927 on:** May 7, 2010, 04:01:58 PM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 7, 2010, 03:13:03 PM

good post mate, thing is i have dramatically cut down, from every night to maybe twice a week, i'll get there in the end. Ironic thing is i'm out tonight. Starting at 6.30pm.

Glad to hear you've managed to keep it down mate, well done! I'm confident you can be strong enough to keep it under check. Have a good night out!

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #928 on:** May 7, 2010, 04:12:47 PM »

k guys. im back lol. ill just say ive been given brilliant advice and it seems im too fucking stubborn to follow it. lets just say the last 2 days have been a fuck up on every level for me. and i mean serious. i shouldnt actually be here. living or sectioned. even a gun at my head hasnt stopped me going for the copper whos aimed it at me. BUT, i have an appointment with the docs to give me pills that stop u wanting a drink or something.ive lost everything that means something to me cos of this fucking booze. im moving back home next month and i know with my6 family and friends around me it will be so much easier. for any Rawkites here that are going down the route of alcoholism, trust me, dont.

spen71 · « **Reply #929 on:** May 7, 2010, 06:08:31 PM »

HF is it called Antabuse (Disulfiram)? Never been prescribed it but heard about it.

Well I have been off the booze for 6 days and not even smoked in that time either. I must be mad doing both at the same time but they go hand in hand with me.

JLStretton · « **Reply #930 on:** May 7, 2010, 10:07:25 PM »

Well done spen71, wish I could go that long without it, HF stay safe mate.

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #931 on:** May 8, 2010, 11:13:16 AM »

ive had enough of flying off the handle at people, either in real life or in this virtual world. im sure i will do it once in a while but if you dont mind Danny Boys Dad would you care to remove that comment (now removed by mod team). i know no one ' plans' to be an alcoholic. what was meant was make sure you recognise the signs before you turn out a total fuckup. its summer soon and a pub garden ,bbqs etc are an alcoholics dream come true.

today is going to be the hardest for me for years. and i mean seriously hard. today is the day that all thats precious to me is taken away from me. thats all im going to say on a public forum.

and on a side note, i mention the fact i went for an armed cop, not for anyone to think im a nutter and i want recognition, i said it to illustrate how fucking stupid my life has become because of alcohol. im not proud of where i am. im so low i look high in the sky and i can see the titanic. this is not clever or fun and ive lost everything as of today.even my dog has been taken away. i thank you all for all your advice and maybe after today i will make an effort.

thats the stuff spen71. is it any good. i was automatically referred by the cops and hossy to something called a smart team? my levels of alcohol were high. the nurse said 25 ( dunno what that means ) is ok for a drinker and mine was 350. summat to do with blood count? anyways, just thought id give u a heads up.

Cheers guts and gals.

Carl

spen71 · « **Reply #932 on:** May 8, 2010, 12:27:08 PM »

HF Be careful if you are coming off the beer all of a sudden. When I was pissed 24/7 (I worked in a brewery at the time) and I come off the booze suddenly I was really ill. Seeing things, hearing things and shaking all the time.

The alcohol count is probably your liver enzymes which will be high as they have a lot of alcohol to break down.

I am sober for a week now and plan to carry it on. If you need a chat just give me a pm.

Take care

Spen

24/7 · « **Reply #933 on:** May 8, 2010, 12:42:56 PM »

Carl

Be strong today mate - the worst of times are always passing us by. Plan for the future. Stay well and take our best wishes with you each day.

/j

Rigga · « **Reply #934 on:** May 8, 2010, 12:44:22 PM »

You're doing a grand job, Carl.

Keep it up chief

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #935 on:** May 8, 2010, 03:56:31 PM »

im struggling now. i wont say what i want to do but im hoping it does. im more lost than a bird with no sat nav lol.

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #936 on:** May 8, 2010, 03:57:52 PM »

oh and thats not suicide or self harm. just to clarify.

reniformis · « **Reply #937 on:** May 8, 2010, 05:21:26 PM »

Harvest, I've got my fingers crossed that this is your rock bottom that you fight back from, that there isn't any further to fall. I have my own issues with alcohol, primarily unhealthy drinking way over the 'safe' limit, but nothing to compare with what you've been through. Good luck mate.

24/7 · « **Reply #938 on:** May 8, 2010, 05:53:32 PM »

Quote from: Harvest Fields on May 8, 2010, 03:57:52 PM

oh and thats not suicide or self harm. just to clarify.

Just to clarify, getting hammered at the moment might well fall under "self harm" - take that as a reason not to. Follow advice given instead mate, for your own sake (and potentially for others'). Hope you get through tonight okay. Tomorrow it's all up and up - focus on positives.

And Could He Play · « **Reply #939 on:** May 9, 2010, 07:40:12 AM »

heavy one for me on friday. actually walked home from me mates at early bells, noticed a couple of things in my drunken state, addiction can be a mad thing, saw a man and woman, not together waiting outside the bookies on tuebrook , for it to open. how can you be that eager to get to the bookies, then again who am i to talk about addiction.

Also 4 hours kip in two nights isn't good.

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #940 on:** May 9, 2010, 09:42:41 AM »

aye paul. i had about 6-7 hours in the last 4-5 nights and i feel like crap cos of that. got this weird spaced out feeling. id say i feel funky but in a silly way. be glad to get off the stuff. ill still be a dickhead at times etc but it will be because thats me

go careful paul. hows things at home now mate?

oh and this is my rock bottom. it cant get any lower so im on the way up. and that actually makes me happy. i cant get any further down. at last ive stopped moving down. fucking get in there.

And Could He Play · « **Reply #941 on:** May 9, 2010, 04:43:49 PM »

Quote from: Harvest Fields on May 9, 2010, 09:42:41 AM

aye paul. i had about 6-7 hours in the last 4-5 nights and i feel like crap cos of that. got this weird spaced out feeling. id say i feel funky but in a silly way. be glad to get off the stuff. ill still be a dickhead at times etc but it will be because thats me go careful paul. hows things at home now mate?

oh and this is my rock bottom. it cant get any lower so im on the way up. and that actually makes me happy. i cant get any further down. at last ive stopped moving down. fucking get in there.

Things are sound mate, still split up but on talking terms.

cj · « **Reply #942 on:** May 9, 2010, 08:58:21 PM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 9, 2010, 04:43:49 PM

Things are sound mate, still split up but on talking terms.

Sound enough to keep you sober mate?

jason42 · « **Reply #943 on:** May 9, 2010, 09:09:25 PM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 9, 2010, 04:43:49 PM

Things are sound mate, still split up but on talking terms.

Sorry to hear that Paul, I hope you stay friends for the sake of your little girl and that you get to see plenty of her.

And Could He Play · « **Reply #944 on:** May 9, 2010, 10:16:21 PM »

Quote from: cj on May 9, 2010, 08:58:21 PM

Sound enough to keep you sober mate?

yeah, had a bit of a heavy weekend, but i wont have a drop now till friday. (not including the 4 carling i have got tonight) after them though not one drop till friday.

And Could He Play · « **Reply #945 on:** May 9, 2010, 10:18:12 PM »

Quote from: jason23 on May 9, 2010, 09:09:25 PM

Sorry to hear that Paul, I hope you stay friends for the sake of your little girl and that you get to see plenty of her.

getting her in the morning from her mothers, i took me birds passport the other day but returned it she is home tuesday, ill take the baby home then, she has been ringing me and texting me none stop (being nice) since she left. so shes either banging away on her hen do and feeling guilty or she actually misses me, first time shes been away without me in years.

Johnnyboy1973 · « **Reply #946 on:** May 9, 2010, 11:19:26 PM »

Recently, for the first time in roughly 14 months, I have wanted to drink.

And Could He Play · « **Reply #947 on:** May 9, 2010, 11:24:19 PM »

Quote from: Johnnyboy1973 on May 9, 2010, 11:19:26 PM

Recently, for the first time in roughly 14 months, I have wanted to drink.

any stand out reasons mate?

Johnnyboy1973 · « **Reply #948 on:** May 9, 2010, 11:30:30 PM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 9, 2010, 11:24:19 PM

any stand out reasons mate?

No, not at all mate.

It was about two weeks ago. One of the hot days. Walked past the pub, beer garden full, loads of fanny about and at that point I WANTED a beer and that feeling has stayed with me since. Not so much in the wanting to drink but when I look into my future I see there being the possibility that I may drink again - but, just the one, ya know.

And Could He Play · « **Reply #949 on:** May 9, 2010, 11:43:11 PM »

know exactly what your saying, something about hot weather and beer gardens, pathetic as it sounds the sun just makes you want to drink. Summer must be far be gthe hardest time for people with drink problems, even more so than xmas and thats a bold statement.

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #950 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:15:29 PM »

well as of today im in a fair amount of pain due to efforts to get the help i badly need. but i got it. got a counsellor etc and they going to determine what meds and a suitable course for me. im not proud of how i got the help but no one was listening.it was a means to an end.

Chakan · « **Reply #951 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:17:45 PM »

Did it involve the words ".... or the puppy gets it!!" ?

Lent§ · « **Reply #952 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:19:31 PM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 9, 2010, 11:43:11 PM

know exactly what your saying, something about hot weather and beer gardens, pathetic as it sounds the sun just makes you want to drink. Summer must be far be gthe hardest time for people with drink problems, even more so than xmas and thats a bold statement.

According to the 'tutor' on the Drink Driving Course i have to attend, you're spot on and it's been proven.

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #953 on:** May 13, 2010, 07:16:08 PM »

when at your end u have to take extreme steps. i did. check this link.7-10 seconds wasnt a clever thing to do. the sarge pissed himself when i showed him i did that. but i got the help i need so i can look back and chuckle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb0Mt3zhGrw

7-10 seconds in. not clever but was a daft on the spot moment of idiocy.

24/7 · « **Reply #954 on:** May 14, 2010, 09:11:55 AM »

Errr Carl that link goes to some bizarre Captain Spaulding thingie - unless you have a secret identity?! Oh and the link isn't 'work-safe', just to let the rest of you know.....

Just watched it again and got it this time!

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #955 on:** May 14, 2010, 01:08:36 PM »

Quote from: 24/7 on May 14, 2010, 09:11:55 AM

Errr Carl that link goes to some bizarre Captain Spaulding thingie - unless you have a secret identity?! Oh and the link isn't 'work-safe', just to let the rest of you know.....

Just watched it again and got it this time!

hahaha i just love that part.

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #956 on:** May 14, 2010, 07:03:00 PM »

well not had a drink in 24 hrs but last night was scary. hallucinations voices etc. the doc said id probably get some but by fuck i never thought she meant like that. and i even felt one get into bed and lift the covers and i felt the mattress sink. oh a guy with a knife in his hand watching me. so im gonna have a drink and i dont even want one. on the plus side of coming off the a d's im as horny as a 16yr old nymphomaniac. yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

And Could He Play · « **Reply #957 on:** May 15, 2010, 01:20:12 AM »

pissed

spen71 · « **Reply #958 on:** May 15, 2010, 09:00:57 AM »

Quote from: Harvest Fields on May 14, 2010, 07:03:00 PM

well not had a drink in 24 hrs but last night was scary. hallucinations voices etc. the doc said id probably get some but by fuck i never thought she meant like that. and i even felt one get into bed and lift the covers and i felt the mattress sink. oh a guy with a knife in his hand watching me. so im gonna have a drink and i dont even want one. on the plus side of coming off the a d's im as horny as a 16yr old nymphomaniac. yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Been their mate. When I went through this I was given a short course of Valium and some vit b12. Do not drink as you are only delaying it.

cj · « **Reply #959 on:** May 15, 2010, 10:16:37 AM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 15, 2010, 01:20:12 AM

pissed

Can't lambast you since I'm worse for wear myself atm. Are you still doing better than before or have you slipped back into the old routine mate?

The most constantly effective weapon against drink that I've personally come across is exercise. Once you get it going regularly you don't feel the same need for alcohol (or fatty foods the day after). The main issue with that is motivation, which I struggle with myself at times. It would almost certainly be worth a trip to a shrink in order to get that motivation going.