Author Topic: FA and their new 'rules' (Read 3640 times)

Andy @ Allerton! · « **on:** August 10, 2009, 09:13:03 am »

Obviously I have no faith in the FA (To the extent that their clear bias, lack of morals and their handling of English Football has led me to actively and completely dislike England FC in its entirety).

But as soon as I saw these new 'rules' I thought there was one club that would make a point of deliberately breaking those 'rules'.

I didn't see the game, but I saw a replay of about 5 Manchester United players harrasing and surrounding the referee to the extent that he had to shove two of them out of the way.

Be in no doubt whatsoever that this wasn't an 'accident' - Alex Ferguson will have told his players to, at the earliest opportunity, get in the Referees face and surround him - this, if not pulled up on, sets a precedece.

If the FA doesn't act now (And I have no doubt whatsoever that they won't) then that once again - like last season - makes them immune to action by the FA.

It's about time the FA did the job that apparantly they are paid for.

rakey_lfc · « **Reply #1 on:** August 10, 2009, 09:23:39 am »

They will do if/when liverpool do it.

fowlerisgod96 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 10, 2009, 09:27:11 am »

I thought long and hard about this one. Eventually, as tough as it was to come up with an answer, I went for the last one.....

JMarsh · « **Reply #3 on:** August 10, 2009, 09:28:29 am »

Andy @ Allerton is perhaps my favouritist poster of all time, though this is mediocre by his standards, it still hits the right spots.

Wigwamdelbert · « **Reply #4 on:** August 10, 2009, 09:39:34 am »

Option 4 for me.

Just like Masch had to suffer for A Cole's antics

PaulF · « **Reply #5 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:01:01 am »

Mr. Ferguson's post match comments seem to fly in the face of the new rules too. Perhaps by setting the standards on a non-competitive irrelevant match, he aims to make sure there is no punishment doled out by the FA.

It always makes me laugh when the FA accuse a player or manager of 'bringing the game into disrepute' . They seem to manage it on a weekly basis. (and to an extent UEFA, FIFA aren't quite as bad)

stoa · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:18:25 am »

Quote from: Wigwampaddy on August 10, 2009, 09:39:34 am

Option 4 for me.

Just like Masch had to suffer for A Cole's antics

Dito. I still remember the West Brom-game last season. 50-50 decisions going the Mancs' way all the time, Robinson harshly sent off, that guy who took the captains armband getting booked for politely telling the assistant that it wasn't a foul while Berbatov can shove and push people around while standing in the wall before a freekick without getting booked or told off...

JMarsh · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:26:27 am »

Quote from: stoa on August 10, 2009, 10:18:25 am

Dito. I still remember the West Brom-game last season. 50-50 decisions going the Mancs' way all the time, Robinson harshly sent off, that guy who took the captains armband getting booked for politely telling the assistant that it wasn't a foul while Berbatov can shove and push people around while standing in the wall before a freekick without getting booked or told off...

Is that the game United 'luckily' won 5-0?

scatman · « **Reply #8 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:28:36 am »

the stoke game was worse, 0-0 stoke player gets sent off for 2 poor tackles in a minute, rooney throws an elbow misses but isnt pulled up for it, ronaldo kicks out at the player that got sent off but doesnt get nothing.

also noticed how the 4th option was already chosen for me, just had to hit submit

LFCfan4Life · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:29:30 am »

Quote from: JMarsh on August 10, 2009, 10:26:27 am

Is that the game United 'luckily' won 5-0?

they luckily went one goal up while under a lot of pressure from WBA, think they hit the bar/post in the first 10-15 mins, then robinson was sent off after 20 mins and it turned into a rout

JMarsh · « **Reply #10 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:35:41 am »

Just don't mention the ridiculous Adebayor sending off at the Emirates at 1-1, or Carragher's handball in equalising against Boro, or Lampard's shocking red card at 0-0 at Anfield,

etc

MagicHat · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:40:59 am »

Quote from: JMarsh on August 10, 2009, 10:35:41 am

Just don't mention the ridiculous Adebayor sending off at the Emirates at 1-1, or Carragher's handball in equalising against Boro, or Lampard's shocking red card at 0-0 at Anfield,

etc

My hat off to you for pointing that out. Though the Ade red card was probably fair

They will do nothing. It isn't a pro Man U thing, just the FA rarely enforce the rule which is a pity

stoa · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:41:02 am »

Quote from: JMarsh on August 10, 2009, 10:26:27 am

Is that the game United 'luckily' won 5-0?

No way would West Brom have taken anything from that game, but it makes it just even more ridiculous that United get away with murder and the opposition can't even blink without getting booked...

The Jackal · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:51:54 am »

Andy, you should stop being so cynical. The FA are completely impartial and are only interested in the proper application of the rules to everyone within the game on an fair and equal basis.

For example, I fully expect them to charge Mr Ferguson with misconduct following his tirade at Chris Foy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8192532.stm

You wait and see Andy. It will happen, and then you will be forced to admit that the FA are nothing but fair and impartial to all within the game..

killer-heels · « **Reply #14 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:00:53 am »

I think they will fine Utd.

Sometimes I dont think referees help themselves because in that incident, Ballack blocked off Evra deliberately and had Foy had given the advantage and then booked Ballack after the goal had been scored, then it would have been the correct decision.

But after that, the complete moaning that went on by the Utd players was utter rubbish. Teams need to face tough action if they surround ref's like that and whoever they are. Personally, if I was the FA I would introduce a rule where only captains are allowed to talk to the ref, unless the ref calls that player to have a word otherwise.

I think they will fine Utd because they have to. They then have to enforce it and fine every other club who does it. The issue is I dont think they are tough enough to go a step further. Teams consistently offending should be docked points.

Hazell · « **Reply #15 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:05:15 am »

Quote from: JMarsh on August 10, 2009, 10:35:41 am

Just don't mention the ridiculous Adebayor sending off at the Emirates at 1-1, or Carragher's handball in equalising against Boro, or Lampard's shocking red card at 0-0 at Anfield,

etc

Or Gerrard's disallowed goal against Stoke, Leige getting a penalty for handball outside the box, Bosingwa getting a freekick for kicking Benayoun. These things happen.

While we don't need another thread on Man Utd, they do seem to get more decisions go their way than other teams.

saoirse08 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:11:34 am »

Ahhhhh yes, the FA's much vaunted respect campaign. I remember it well...it lasted a whole week during March 2008.

JMarsh · « **Reply #17 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:12:05 am »

They really don't. It's just that because they win the league, Liverpool fans remember every single tiny teeny little decision that does go there way. Yes, the Spurs pen was a shocker at a crucial time - but United deserved the title over the 38 games.

We go on about how United sing about scousers all the time - but LFC fans seem to be spend a lot more time scrutinising United's matches then they do ours.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #18 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:13:09 am »

Quote from: JMarsh on August 10, 2009, 10:35:41 am

Just don't mention the ridiculous Adebayor sending off at the Emirates at 1-1, or Carragher's handball in equalising against Boro, or Lampard's shocking red card at 0-0 at Anfield,

etc

That's fine mate - you've pulled out a few decisions that went Liverpool's way.

But since you've pointed that out - you should probably mention the decisions that didn't go Liverpool's way - like the Stoke Goal, the game at Newcastle (Several shocking decisions), the game at Manc City (Several shocking decisions) and a raft of others.

And.. Since you did point those out, I should probably mention;

* Manchester United struggling at home to West Brom - ridiculous free kick awarded to Manchester United - go on to win
* Manchester United stuggling away to West Brom - captain sent off for literally nothing - Manchester United - Go on to win
* Manchester United struggling at home to Bolton - ridiculous penalty awarded - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling away at Wigan - cast iron penalty to Wigan turned down
* Manchester United at home to Everton - cast iron penalty to Everton turned down
* Manchester United away to Stoke struggling. Rooney elbows a player in front of the Ref - nothing given - Ronaldo kicks a player off the ball (one of 5 he wasn't pulled up for) nothing given - then a Stoke player gets sent off for fouling Ronaldo (Who shouldn't have been on the pitch) - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling at home to Spurs - Referee awards a ridiculous penalty then allows a goal despite an obvious foul - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling away to Blackburn Rovers - ball comes in - Vidic clearly elbows the keeper in the head and knocks him to the floor - referee ignores this and gives the goal - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling at home to Aston Villa - referee awards a staggering 5 minutes of stoppage time - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United playing Southampton in the Cup - far, far, far too many ridiculous decisions to mention - offsides, dodgy penalties etc. etc. Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester united at home to Newcastle - Rio Ferdinand drags the man down as last man back (He repeated this several times in the season and strangely wasn't sent off - Vidic also does this with gay abandon and was only pulled up the once for it - against Liverpool) - nothing given - Manchester United draw
* Manchester United player Cristiano Ronaldo committed literally hundreds of dives through the season and was barely pulled up over it
* Manchester United player Cristiano Ronaldo kicked out at players off the ball five times and was not sent off
* Manchester United player Wayne Rooney kicked out/elbowed players five times and wasn't sent off
* Manchester United player Wayne Rooney (Despite the 'respect campaign') regularly swears incessantly at referees in every single game and yet never gets pulled up over it
* Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson has spent many match conferences having a go at the FA and referees, insisting that they are biased(!) against his club(!)
* Manchester United fans are idiots

These are all facts.

And anyone else that wants to add any more - then feel free.

Either for or against Liverpool or Manchester United.

I'm sure that Liverpool got the rub of the green here and there - evened out pretty much by not getting it on occasion.

I'd be interested to see if anyone could match decisions going against Manchester United against that lot.

Hazell · « **Reply #19 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:15:12 am »

I'm not talking about the league or who deserved it, just the games I've seen them play - they seem to get more decisions. There's no point in scrutinising every single thing as we'd be here forever, but they do seem to get more major decisions than others.

Agree with the last point. We don't another Man Utd thread.

JMarsh · « **Reply #20 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:17:20 am »

Andy @ Allerton - you're like a Stretford Ender disguised as a gobshite kopite.

Spend a little less time watching Manchester United's matches and a little more time supporting your apparent team.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #21 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:22:36 am »

Quote from: JMarsh on August 10, 2009, 11:17:20 am

Andy @ Allerton - you're like a Stretford Ender disguised as a gobshite kopite.

Spend a little less time watching Manchester United's matches and a little more time supporting your apparent team.

I'm not watching a single game they play in this coming season.

I have already seen every game they are ever going to play.

Whatever the game you know their players will dive, moan, cheat, chip away, surround the referee, act disgracefully, childishly and idiotically.

You know their myopic idiot of a manager will whine, cry, cheat and stamp his little feet going on about nonsensical rubbish til the cows come home.

You know referees will give them the rub of the green and will do everything they can to give them an unfair advantage and you know the FA will never properly punish any of the players for that club or indeed their manager that break any of their rules.

Why this is the case is anyones guess. But. As I said - I've already seen all their games they are going to play and until the league sorts itself out - then it's just not worth watching them. Why bother when you know exactly what's going to happen in pretty much every game they play?

They stopped being a football team a while back and are now the Harlem Globetrotters of English Football.

JMarsh · « **Reply #22 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:25:15 am »

That's all I wanted, Mr Allerton. Thanks. You're hilarious.

deadlybuzz · « **Reply #23 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:41:47 am »

Alas, I think they'll do nothing. There should be an FA for the FA when the FA don't follow their own rules. But I'd imagine that FA would do nothing about the FA.

SMD · « **Reply #24 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:58:06 am »

Genuine question here but what new rules?

PaulF · « **Reply #25 on:** August 10, 2009, 12:05:24 pm »

Quote from: SMD on August 10, 2009, 11:58:06 am

Genuine question here but what new rules?

http://tinyurl.com/lyhlan

Walshy nMe® · « **Reply #26 on:** August 10, 2009, 12:20:12 pm »

Andy seriously I think you need a break from everything.

Billy The Kid · « **Reply #27 on:** August 10, 2009, 12:22:49 pm »

Another anti Manc thread from Andy @ Allerton,

Yay !!!

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #28 on:** August 10, 2009, 01:15:04 pm »

Quote from: Billy The Kid. on August 10, 2009, 12:22:49 pm

Another anti Manc thread from Andy @ Allerton,

Yay !!!

No really. I just expect the FA not to act.

I doubt there will be many people on Earth surprised if they do nothing.

Again.

spen71 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 10, 2009, 10:29:01 pm »

Andy do you keep a log over the season of every decision that goes to the manc fuckweasels? I cannot remember most of them decisions. Saying that I cannot remember what I had for my tea.

Fanxxxxtastic · « **Reply #30 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:01:10 am »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on August 10, 2009, 11:13:09 am

That's fine mate - you've pulled out a few decisions that went Liverpool's way.

But since you've pointed that out - you should probably mention the decisions that didn't go Liverpool's way - like the Stoke Goal, the game at Newcastle (Several shocking decisions), the game at Manc City (Several shocking decisions) and a raft of others.

And.. Since you did point those out, I should probably mention;

* Manchester United struggling at home to West Brom - ridiculous free kick awarded to Manchester United - go on to win
* Manchester United stuggling away to West Brom - captain sent off for literally nothing - Manchester United - Go on to win
* Manchester United struggling at home to Bolton - ridiculous penalty awarded - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling away at Wigan - cast iron penalty to Wigan turned down
* Manchester United at home to Everton - cast iron penalty to Everton turned down
* Manchester United away to Stoke struggling. Rooney elbows a player in front of the Ref - nothing given - Ronaldo kicks a player off the ball (one of 5 he wasn't pulled up for) nothing given - then a Stoke player gets sent off for fouling Ronaldo (Who shouldn't have been on the pitch) - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling at home to Spurs - Referee awards a ridiculous penalty then allows a goal despite an obvious foul - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling away to Blackburn Rovers - ball comes in - Vidic clearly elbows the keeper in the head and knocks him to the floor - referee ignores this and gives the goal - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling at home to Aston Villa - referee awards a staggering 5 minutes of stoppage time - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United playing Southampton in the Cup - far, far, far too many ridiculous decisions to mention - offsides, dodgy penalties etc. etc. Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester united at home to Newcastle - Rio Ferdinand drags the man down as last man back (He repeated this several times in the season and strangely wasn't sent off - Vidic also does this with gay abandon and was only pulled up the once for it - against Liverpool) - nothing given - Manchester United draw
* Manchester United player Cristiano Ronaldo committed literally hundreds of dives through the season and was barely pulled up over it
* Manchester United player Cristiano Ronaldo kicked out at players off the ball five times and was not sent off
* Manchester United player Wayne Rooney kicked out/elbowed players five times and wasn't sent off
* Manchester United player Wayne Rooney (Despite the 'respect campaign') regularly swears incessantly at referees in every single game and yet never gets pulled up over it
* Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson has spent many match conferences having a go at the FA and referees, insisting that they are biased(!) against his club(!)
* Manchester United fans are idiots

These are all facts.

And anyone else that wants to add any more - then feel free.

Either for or against Liverpool or Manchester United.

I'm sure that Liverpool got the rub of the green here and there - evened out pretty much by not getting it on occasion.

I'd be interested to see if anyone could match decisions going against Manchester United against that lot.

You never fail to disappoint luv

Fanxxxxtastic · « **Reply #31 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:05:09 am »

Quote from: blurred, please on August 10, 2009, 12:14:04 pm

They'd do sweet FA, in fact.

The FA have come out and said they will punish situations of 3 or more players surrounding the ref, and that comments about referees before games are verboten. I'll dig up a linkie or two.

edit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/07/fa-respect-campaign-referee-abuse and http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/04/fa-ban-managers-referee-comments

I'll believe that of United when the FA actually punish the bastards, but we all know they've not got the balls.

Fanxxxxtastic · « **Reply #32 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:07:33 am »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on August 10, 2009, 01:15:04 pm

No really. I just expect the FA not to act.

I doubt there will be many people on Earth surprised if they do nothing.

Again.

You're hero to me Andy

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #33 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:46:03 am »

Quote from: Fanxxxxtastic on August 11, 2009, 12:07:33 am

You're hero to me Andy

Sorted!! · « **Reply #34 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:51:32 am »

The way Andy has been criticised by some of our so-called fans about this thread is nothing short of disgraceful.What he has done, is stated his case which most of us can see with our own eyes.

If anyone wants, they can pull up misdemeanours from other clubs but can't be arsed and prefer to shoot down the OP. Fucking bullshit, the mancs get away with a lot and Taggart knows it, hence he encourages his players and staff to keep on doing it and the FA will do diddly about it.

Keep it up Andy, we all hate ManU although judging by some people here, they'd love to crawl up Taggart's smelly rectum.

fowlerisgod96 · « **Reply #35 on:** August 11, 2009, 12:54:54 am »

Some people think its being a bad loser.

It would be if what he says wasnt true. Last season I genuinely watched some of the most unbelievable decisions ever made in the Premier League cost us the title. The penalty decision against Spurs will just stick in my memory for a long time, it was literally incredible that it happened but even more incredible that not a thing was done about it, about such a blatant case of corruption. Serie A got fucked over because of corruption but what I saw last season can not have been any worse than theirs.

Midget · « **Reply #36 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:06:47 am »

Quote from: Sorted!! on August 11, 2009, 12:51:32 am

The way Andy has been criticised by some of our so-called fans about this thread is nothing short of disgraceful.What he has done, is stated his case which most of us can see with our own eyes.

If anyone wants, they can pull up misdemeanours from other clubs but can't be arsed and prefer to shoot down the OP. Fucking bullshit, the mancs get away with a lot and Taggart knows it, hence he encourages his players and staff to keep on doing it and the FA will do diddly about it.

Keep it up Andy, we all hate ManU although judging by some people here, they'd love to crawl up Taggart's smelly rectum.

Word. I think Andy has stated his case excellently and he at least gives a damn if FA are biased unlike some who just shrug it all off.

shelovesyou · « **Reply #37 on:** August 11, 2009, 01:48:38 am »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on August 10, 2009, 11:13:09 am

That's fine mate - you've pulled out a few decisions that went Liverpool's way.

But since you've pointed that out - you should probably mention the decisions that didn't go Liverpool's way - like the Stoke Goal, the game at Newcastle (Several shocking decisions), the game at Manc City (Several shocking decisions) and a raft of others.

And.. Since you did point those out, I should probably mention;

* Manchester United struggling at home to West Brom - ridiculous free kick awarded to Manchester United - go on to win
* Manchester United stuggling away to West Brom - captain sent off for literally nothing - Manchester United - Go on to win
* Manchester United struggling at home to Bolton - ridiculous penalty awarded - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling away at Wigan - cast iron penalty to Wigan turned down
* Manchester United at home to Everton - cast iron penalty to Everton turned down
* Manchester United away to Stoke struggling. Rooney elbows a player in front of the Ref - nothing given - Ronaldo kicks a player off the ball (one of 5 he wasn't pulled up for) nothing given - then a Stoke player gets sent off for fouling Ronaldo (Who shouldn't have been on the pitch) - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling at home to Spurs - Referee awards a ridiculous penalty then allows a goal despite an obvious foul - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling away to Blackburn Rovers - ball comes in - Vidic clearly elbows the keeper in the head and knocks him to the floor - referee ignores this and gives the goal - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United struggling at home to Aston Villa - referee awards a staggering 5 minutes of stoppage time - Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester United playing Southampton in the Cup - far, far, far too many ridiculous decisions to mention - offsides, dodgy penalties etc. etc. Manchester United go on to win
* Manchester united at home to Newcastle - Rio Ferdinand drags the man down as last man back (He repeated this several times in the season and strangely wasn't sent off - Vidic also does this with gay abandon and was only pulled up the once for it - against Liverpool) - nothing given - Manchester United draw
* Manchester United player Cristiano Ronaldo committed literally hundreds of dives through the season and was barely pulled up over it
* Manchester United player Cristiano Ronaldo kicked out at players off the ball five times and was not sent off
* Manchester United player Wayne Rooney kicked out/elbowed players five times and wasn't sent off
* Manchester United player Wayne Rooney (Despite the 'respect campaign') regularly swears incessantly at referees in every single game and yet never gets pulled up over it
* Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson has spent many match conferences having a go at the FA and referees, insisting that they are biased(!) against his club(!)
* Manchester United fans are idiots

These are all facts.

And anyone else that wants to add any more - then feel free.

Either for or against Liverpool or Manchester United.

I'm sure that Liverpool got the rub of the green here and there - evened out pretty much by not getting it on occasion.

I'd be interested to see if anyone could match decisions going against Manchester United against that lot.

Rafa ? ?

SMD · « **Reply #38 on:** August 11, 2009, 06:48:11 am »

Cheers Paul and Garreth, it just makes it all the more astounding how the FA either genuinely thinks there's improvement or that we don't notice how blatant players are in hounding the referee.

Mind boggling.

East of Anfield · « **Reply #39 on:** August 11, 2009, 07:18:30 am »

this sums it up for me

Poll

If Manchester United step out of line with the pre-match matchday officials comments or indeed the surrounding the ref by '3 players or more' will the FA..

Author Topic: FA and their new 'rules' (Read 3640 times)