Author Topic: Game of Thrones - no spoilers, no book talk (or foreveragnome will end you) (Read 104913 times)

Ritari · « **Reply #1800 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:21:34 PM »

Quote from: Rusty Oysterburger on May 28, 2012, 02:53:42 PM

About the second thing in your message.

Alphaville · « **Reply #1801 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:36:44 PM »

My favourite scene:

Also, last night's Mad Men episode was every bit as excellent as Blackwater. I already mentioned it in the Mad Men thread. I really do think that last night was a landmark night in TV drama. I'm not an expert in those things but I can't think of two more exhilaratingly good episodes being served up on the same night.

UntouchableLuis · « **Reply #1802 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:40:22 PM »

Thinking of starting on this series soon. Sell it to me.

Alphaville · « **Reply #1803 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:44:30 PM »

Quote from: UntouchableLuis on May 28, 2012, 03:40:22 PM

Thinking of starting on this series soon. Sell it to me.

I don't care if you watch it or not.

UntouchableLuis · « **Reply #1804 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:45:01 PM »

Quote from: Alphaville on May 28, 2012, 03:44:30 PM

I don't care if you watch it or not.

Can't be that good then

Rusty Oysterburger · « **Reply #1805 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:46:31 PM »

Quote from: Ritari on May 28, 2012, 03:21:34 PM

About the second thing in your message.

Huh, didn't even notice that somehow....

Quote from: Alphaville on May 28, 2012, 03:36:44 PM

My favourite scene:

Also, last night's Mad Men episode was every bit as excellent as Blackwater. I already mentioned it in the Mad Men thread. I really do think that last night was a landmark night in TV drama. I'm not an expert in those things but I can't think of two more exhilaratingly good episodes being served up on the same night.

I saw someone on a film forum I frequent say something along the lines of 'remind me why we still watch movies?' this morning after watching this and Mad Men (haven't got round to it yet). I've been thinking that way for a while now, there are moments in this show, Mad Men, Breaking Bad etc in recent years that have been up there with any movie moment in recent years. That's without going back to The Wire/The Sopranos/Deadwood as well.

Redcap · « **Reply #1806 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:57:09 PM »

Yep. Definitely some antlers on that helm. They underplayed the Renly's ghost angle though.

Alphaville · « **Reply #1807 on:** May 28, 2012, 04:15:46 PM »

Quote from: UntouchableLuis on May 28, 2012, 03:45:01 PM

Can't be that good then

Quote from: Rusty Oysterburger on May 28, 2012, 03:46:31 PM

Huh, didn't even notice that somehow....

Yep, I had missed that as well, and your suggestion for how to fix it, although a bit clunky, would have totally worked and could definitely have been pulled off by that cast, crew and director.

Quote from: Rusty Oysterburger on May 28, 2012, 03:46:31 PM

I saw someone on a film forum I frequent say something along the lines of 'remind me why we still watch movies?' this morning after watching this and Mad Men (haven't got round to it yet). I've been thinking that way for a while now, there are moments in this show, Mad Men, Breaking Bad etc in recent years that have been up there with any movie moment in recent years. That's without going back to The Wire/The Sopranos/Deadwood as well.

Agree again. Good art/entertainment is good regardless of the medium. I believe that the standard of writing and acting has bridged the gap between cinema and TV, although I do feel that cinema is still more of a director's playground, with, however, increasing examples of TV dramas like Breaking Bad and Mad Men showcasing some brilliant camera work. Let's also not forget comedy in this. In the past 20 years or so, I have more fond memories of TV comedies than comedies on film (Wes Anderson films aside, and I wouldn't categorize his films simply as "comedies").

Niru Red4ever · « **Reply #1808 on:** May 28, 2012, 04:51:25 PM »

Quote from: Redcap on May 28, 2012, 02:06:02 PM

The nose part is not true in the show.

I guess not. In any case; he looks way better than what I expected him too - I guess make him more likeable to the audience.

Quote from: Ritari on May 28, 2012, 03:21:34 PM

About the second thing in your message.

Indeed he was; and quite nicely done too. Book readers will spot it, while non readers won't be confused about something they don't realise.

And the Rains of Castemere at the end

JongWK · « **Reply #1809 on:** May 28, 2012, 05:18:28 PM »

Quote from: leftfooter on May 28, 2012, 10:26:17 AM

Great episode, more so as I haven't read the books and didn't know what was going to happen.

Spoilers, safe to read after watching the Blackwater episode.

G a r y · « **Reply #1810 on:** May 28, 2012, 05:51:53 PM »

Fucking hell that was boss. I need to finish the bloody second book before next week! I can do it!!!!

Djimis Telescopic Leg · « **Reply #1811 on:** May 28, 2012, 06:34:44 PM »

Perfect. Just perfect. The balance of true-to-the-book and deviating-from-the-book could not have been better.

Rory McCann got about as much screentime as he has in the entirety of the other 18 episodes, and was fucking excellent as The Hound. Knew it was going to be a special episode as soon as he had that scene with Bronn near the start. Great scene with Sansa too.

The National's version of Rains Of Castamere is a dirge, but I love it.

Ritari · « **Reply #1812 on:** May 28, 2012, 06:35:19 PM »

Quote from: JongWK on May 28, 2012, 05:18:28 PM

Spoils ep. 19 "Blackwater"

Rigden · « **Reply #1813 on:** May 28, 2012, 07:16:56 PM »

Meh to be honest, battle scenes are battle scenes. Would rather know how the other subplots are getting on.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #1814 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:06:46 PM »

Really envy the people who haven't read the books. Not that I'm not enjoying it, but I find it impossible to watch it and not be comparing every little fucking thing to the book. Even the things I really like about the tv show that aren't in the book are still a bit distracting.

It's even hard to talk about the show on this thread without giving stuff away or hinting at future plot points. For example take Redcap's today(as an example), nearly every one is referencing the book in some way.

JoeCole is for life, not just Christmas! · « **Reply #1815 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:44:09 PM »

Quote from: Rigden on May 28, 2012, 07:16:56 PM

Meh to be honest, battle scenes are battle scenes. Would rather know how the other subplots are getting on.

They done that last year, ignored the Lannister vs Robb's men battle and just showed the beginning and the end. If they'd have done anything similar this time there'd have been an uproar, especially because this battle was such a big part of the second book

Melbred · « **Reply #1816 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:26:57 PM »

I still maintain that a few of the Breaking Bad episodes are some of the greatest TV I'll ever see, but this was pretty damn good.

Rusty Oysterburger · « **Reply #1817 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:30:42 PM »

"Don't feel bad for it, it'll be halfway up your arse before the nights through". Hahaha.

thegoodfella · « **Reply #1818 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:42:02 PM »

Brilliant viewing, didn't expect the ending at all!

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #1819 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:47:36 PM »

I'd like to think it's all Davos' fault for not bringing Melisandre, but then she did say in one of the earlier eps that "Death by fire is the purest death". Maybe she knew one way or the other that Stannis wasn't going to win at Blackwater.

Regardless, it pisses me off when people say he's boring. They won't be saying that in a few years

dave 5516 · « **Reply #1820 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:03:51 PM »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on May 28, 2012, 08:06:46 PM

Really envy the people who haven't read the books. Not that I'm not enjoying it, but I find it impossible to watch it and not be comparing every little fucking thing to the book. Even the things I really like about the tv show that aren't in the book are still a bit distracting.

It's even hard to talk about the show on this thread without giving stuff away or hinting at future plot points. For example take Redcap's today(as an example), nearly every one is referencing the book in some way.

That's the reason I don't post in here Bob.I watch it on my own and I'm pick, pick. pick.

I try and watch two together,one's not enough,it,s about 4 chapter's an episode so two episodes is just right.

JoeCole is for life, not just Christmas! · « **Reply #1821 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:15:28 PM »

Fuck that was brilliant.

I love The Hound, glad he is finally progressing.

"If anyone of you die with clean swords I'll rape your fucking corpses!!!"

S3 spoiler:

Morgana · « **Reply #1822 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:19:56 PM »

Sorry, massive spoiler ahead, so, as JoeCole suggests, please don't read unless you've read A Storm of Swords...

JoeCole is for life, not just Christmas! · « **Reply #1823 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:22:49 PM »

Massive spoiler that mate, should say beforehand when it's due incase someone think it's from this weeks episode or something.

And in answer to your question... (don't read unless you've read further than A Storm of Swords

shockwave_dave · « **Reply #1824 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:24:25 PM »

Epic!

Rusty Oysterburger · « **Reply #1825 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:26:57 PM »

Quote from: Morgana on May 28, 2012, 10:19:56 PM

Might want to add a book 3 spoiler warning to that mate...

Watched it again, just as great. McCann and Hedley's performances stand out even more, pitch perfect from both of them. Bronn, as ever, just about steals the episode.

Did notice the stag armour at the end this time, could've been a bit more obvious like.

Some top notch gore as well, at least two people split in half, Tyrion's leg chopping, Stannis' man get his head squashed by a rock

Good to hear next weeks episode is 70 plus minutes long. I imagine we won't see anything from Kings Landing so there is plenty of time to wrap up Dany, Robb + Cat, Dany, Theon and Jon's stories. Can't bloody wait.

Trada · « **Reply #1826 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:28:53 PM »

Not as good as I thought it would be the main battle scene outside the wall looked like there was about 50 people fighting.

Not funny reecehenebry · « **Reply #1827 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:30:11 PM »

Quote from: Rigden on May 28, 2012, 07:16:56 PM

Meh to be honest, battle scenes are battle scenes. Would rather know how the other subplots are getting on.

Are you for real?

The characters were laid bare in this battle. The hound, Tyrion, Sansa, The Queen, Stannis.

As someone who has been reading these books since 96, I started a little bit underwhelmed at first, boy did that disappear.

Fucking awesome.

Not funny reecehenebry · « **Reply #1828 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:32:00 PM »

Quote from: Rusty Oysterburger on May 28, 2012, 10:26:57 PM

Might want to add a book 3 spoiler warning to that mate...

Watched it again, just as great. McCann and Hedley's performances stand out even more, pitch perfect from both of them. Bronn, as ever, just about steals the episode.

Did notice the stag armour at the end this time, could've been a bit more obvious like.

Some top notch gore as well, at least two people split in half, Tyrion's leg chopping, Stannis' man get his head squashed by a rock

Good to hear next weeks episode is 70 plus minutes long. I imagine we won't see anything from Kings Landing so there is plenty of time to wrap up Dany, Robb + Cat, Dany, Theon and Jon's stories. Can't bloody wait.

Isn't the house of the undying next?

Brilliant.

Ray K · « **Reply #1829 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:33:42 PM »

Huge credit to Neil Marshall for his direction in this episode too.

That must rank as one of the best battle scenes on either big screen or small screen in recent years.
The wildfire part was simply stunning, and the hand-to-hand combat stuff was awesome.

Oh, and if anyone thinks of telling what happened to a couple of the main characters without putting it in Big Fucking Spoilers, I'm going to go all Bronn on them.

Not funny reecehenebry · « **Reply #1830 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:39:58 PM »

Quote from: Ray K on May 28, 2012, 10:33:42 PM

Huge credit to Neil Marshall for his direction in this episode too.

That must rank as one of the best battle scenes on either big screen or small screen in recent years.
The wildfire part was simply stunning, and the hand-to-hand combat stuff was awesome.

Oh, and if anyone thinks of telling what happened to a couple of the main characters without putting it in Big Fucking Spoilers, I'm going to go all Bronn on them.

So I can't talk about Whiskeyjack being killed and the seven warrens of Quick Ben.
Ahh fuck.

Rusty Oysterburger · « **Reply #1831 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:40:49 PM »

Quote from: Not funny reecehenebry on May 28, 2012, 10:32:00 PM

Isn't the house of the undying next?

Brilliant.

Yep, they've been building to it all season, and I imagine it's going to be the big crazy episode closer, like the Dany scene that ended the first season.

Big old book 2 spoilers

Not funny reecehenebry · « **Reply #1832 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:44:49 PM »

Quote from: Rusty Oysterburger on May 28, 2012, 10:40:49 PM

Yep, they've been building to it all season, and I imagine it's going to be the big crazy episode closer, like the Dany scene that ended the first season.

Big old book 2 spoilers

JoeCole is for life, not just Christmas! · « **Reply #1833 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:45:12 PM »

Quote from: Rusty Oysterburger on May 28, 2012, 10:40:49 PM

Yep, they've been building to it all season, and I imagine it's going to be the big crazy episode closer, like the Dany scene that ended the first season.

Big old book 2 spoilers

End of book 2 spoilers...

Jamie LFC · « **Reply #1834 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:49:53 PM »

Unreal how tempting some of them spoilers are!

Not funny reecehenebry · « **Reply #1835 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:53:01 PM »

Quote from: JoeCole is for life, not just Christmas! on May 28, 2012, 10:45:12 PM

End of book 2 spoilers...

Rusty Oysterburger · « **Reply #1836 on:** May 28, 2012, 11:05:00 PM »

Quote from: Not funny reecehenebry on May 28, 2012, 10:44:49 PM

Quote from: JoeCole is for life, not just Christmas! on May 28, 2012, 10:45:12 PM

End of book 2 spoilers...

Alphaville · « **Reply #1837 on:** May 28, 2012, 11:18:24 PM »

SPOILER! Should only be read by those who have read the first 3 books:

Redcap · « **Reply #1838 on:** May 28, 2012, 11:54:32 PM »

Quote from: Rusty Oysterburger on May 28, 2012, 11:05:00 PM

Yiannis · « **Reply #1839 on:** May 29, 2012, 12:10:59 AM »

Please use clear spoiler warnings like Redcap's above.Went on youtube half an hour ago to enjoy once again the brilliant song at the end of the episode and some c*nt spoiled the shit out of everybody about the fate of a major character.

Anyway it was a truly brilliant episode that had everything.Character development,excellent acting,great direction and some epic battle scenes.Couldn't be more enjoyable methinks.Such a shame my joy was tainted by that spoiling c*nt right after.