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Cohen spewing lies again!!
« on: April 20, 2009, 11:43:54 AM »
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/341386363?-19388

I hope someone teaches him a proper lesson.
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2009, 11:48:11 AM »
Link doesn't load - I spotted this on NewsNow myself and was hoping that the full story had been copy 'n' pasted in here.  :(

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Re: Cohen spewing lies again!!
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2009, 11:52:39 AM »
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/341386363?-19388

I hope someone teaches him a proper lesson.

You know the score - anyone spreading lies, "www.hfdinfo.com - read, learn, educate!" Keep it simple, these people love to sensationalise and hate it when you are rational with them.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2009, 11:53:52 AM »
Finally after about 20 tries.

Steven Cohen, co-host of the World Soccer Daily radio show, has been at it again.

While the rest of the world last week was paying tribute to the 20th anniversary of the Hillsborough Tragedy, Cohen was complaining on his U.S. radio show that Liverpool fans failed to take responsibility for Hillsborough as well as claiming that if 6,000-8,000 ticketless fans had not shown up, the Hillsborough Disaster would never have happened.

The problem is, he’s wrong. Dead wrong.

Steven Cohen’s Statements About the Hillsborough Disaster
So what did Cohen say that was so wrong? Here are three statements that Cohen made about the Hillsborough Disaster on his Monday, April 13, 2009 episode of World Soccer Daily (note, you can listen to the entire audio clip at the bottom of this post):


“People showing up without ticket, hell bent in getting into somewhere where they shouldn’t be going because they don’t have tickets, is the root cause of [the Hillsborough Disaster].”

“I’m yet to read anybody write in this weekend’s Sunday papers in England, where they’re all doing big commemorations about the 96, and why we should never forget and how it’s changed the game, nobody discusses the 6-8,000 who showed up without tickets and my argument has always been, if those people don’t show up, this never happens.”

“[Hillsborough] is a stadium that week-in week-out, Sheffield Wednesday used without incident.”

World Soccer Daily Playing With Fire
Hosted by Steven Cohen and Kenny Hassan, the Los Angeles-based show is broadcast nationwide each weekday on Sirius Satellite Radio and also available as a daily podcast, which is one of the top 10 most popular sports podcasts on iTunes.

Without a doubt, Cohen is the voice of soccer in America. Since the launch of his network in May 2002, Cohen has succeeded in growing World Soccer Daily into the must-listen show about soccer in the United States. Coupled with his weekly co-host slot on Fox Soccer Channel’s Fox Football Fone-In show, 46-year-old Cohen has built a sizeable following, many of whom are impressionable fans who are relatively new to the sport and hang on his every word.

That’s fine when it’s fun and games, but when Cohen (a Chelsea supporter) spews out misinformation about the Hillsborough Disaster, it’s dangerous. One, because his beliefs about Hillsborough are completely wrong. And two, because by making his beliefs public, he’s giving many newbie soccer fans false information and thereby spreading the wrong information about the cause of the disaster. With such a large audience on radio and television, he has a responsibility to educate listeners on what really happened on April 15, 1989.

The Facts About The Hillsborough Tragedy
To dispel his myths, here are the facts:

“The immediate cause of the gross overcrowding and hence the disaster was the failure, when gate C was opened, to cut off access to the central pens which were already overfull,” — The Interim Taylor Report, paragraph 265.
“Planning apart, however, it should have been clear in the control room where there was a view of the pens and of the crowd at the turnstiles that the tunnel had to be closed. If orders had been given to that effect when gate C was opened, the fans could have been directed to the empty areas of the wings and this disaster could still have been avoided. Failure to give that order was a blunder of the first magnitude,” — The Interim Taylor Report, paragraph 231.
“I have already found that there was not an abnormally large number of fans without tickets on this occasion. With one or two exceptions, the police witnesses themselves did not subscribe to the ‘conspiracy’ theory (of a large number
of late-arriving ticketless supporters). I am satisfied that the large concentration at Leppings Lane from 2.30 pm to 2.50 pm did not arrive as a result of any concerted plan. There were, I accept, small groups without tickets who were willing to exploit any adventitious chance of getting into the ground. They, together with the minority who had drunk too much, certainly aggravated the problem faced by the police. But that main problem was simply one of large numbers packed into the small area outside the turnstiles,” The Interim Taylor Report, paragraph 208.
“The police witnesses who most impressed me did not consider the number of ticketless fans to be inordinately large. This accords with two other sources of evidence,” The Interim Taylor Report, paragraph 200.
“Sheffield Wednesday FC’s own admission count system showed the terrace did not exceed its 10,100 capacity (for the Leppings Lane end). As part of their analysis, the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) counted the number of [Liverpool] supporters entering the ground, including those through the turnstiles, through Gate C and even those who climbed over the turnstiles. They gave three admission figures based on their analysis. Their first figure was 9,267, their ‘best estimate’ was 9,734, and their third figure was a ‘maximum estimate’ of 10,124. The HSE report stated it was unlikely that the terrace exceeded 10,124 and that total admissions were approximately equal to the designated capacity of 10,100 people. Taylor surmised there was no substance to the allegation that ticketless fans caused the Disaster,” The Hillsborough Football Disaster: Context And Consequences, page 17. Also watch video evidence of the fans walking through the turnstiles and walking into the tunnel.
The Taylor Report exonerated the Liverpool fans of any culpability. “The main reason for the disaster was the failure of police control,” The Interim Taylor Report, paragraph 278.
Leppings Lane stand was deemed unsuitable in 1981 after 38 Spurs fans suffered crush related injuries. Sheffield Wednesday never carried out the work required. In addition to the 1981 incident, crushes also occurred at Hillsborough in 1987 and 1988. In fact Liverpool played Nottingham Forest in the same stage of the tournament one year prior at the same ground where Liverpool fans were crushed. Liverpool filed an official complaint prior to the 1989 FA-Cup semi final to air their concerns about safety.
Cohen was absolutely wrong on his April 13th show regarding the statements he made about the Hillsborough Tragedy. There were not, as he claimed, 6,000-8,000 ticketless fans. Cohen was emphatically wrong when he claimed that Sheffield Wednesday’s Hillsborough Stadium was used week-in week-out without incident. And the reason none of the English newspapers last Sunday discussed the “6-8,000 who showed up without tickets” is because they didn’t exist. The vast majority of English journalists and pundits know better because they’ve taken time to study the facts rather than to believe the lies told by The Sun and the South Yorkshire Police.

Sure, there were a very small minority of ticketless fans at the ground. And sure, some of the supporters were drunken (as at any football game or sporting event), but the fact of the matter is that Cohen is living in the 80s with the inaccurate statements he’s spewing out.

The Liverpool supporters were a victim of a combination of mistakes by the South Yorkshire Police (for failing to notice that the central pen was overcrowded while the pens to the left and right had room for more spectators, as well as not directing the Liverpool fans who came through the turnstiles away from the central pen), Sheffield Wednesday Football Club (Leppings Lane was ill-suited to admit the 10,100 fans, had too few turnstiles and the club failed to fix those and other issues between 1981-1989 even though they were well aware of them) and the Football Association (for deciding to play the semi-final match at Hillsborough despite previous crushing incidents).

Cohen’s History of Blaming Liverpool Fans For Hillsborough
Cohen’s comments last week aren’t the first time he’s created controversy on American airwaves regarding Hillsborough. On December 5, 2006, he appeared on the Fox Football Fone-In TV show on the U.S. network Fox Soccer Channel and claimed that Liverpool fans were responsible for Hillsborough. He then apologized on the December 12 episode of Fox Football Fone-In, but the damage was clearly already done.

In April, 2007, he again blamed the Liverpool fans for causing the Hillsborough Disaster, this time on his radio show.

He may have apologized on Fox Football Fone-In December 12, 2006, but his views haven’t changed one iota — rendering his 2006 apology virtually meaningless.

Comparisons to Kelvin MacKenzie
Cohen’s misinformed views about what caused the Hillsborough Disaster are similar in context to those of Kelvin MacKenzie.

On April 19, 1989, MacKenzie, the former editor of The Sun newspaper published a sensationalized account of what happened at Hillsborough. MacKenzie’s newspaper that day alleged that ticketless and drunken Liverpool F.C. fans were responsible for the disaster, having supposedly tried to fight their way into the stadium by rushing the turnstiles and attacking policemen outside the ground.

It’s taken 20 years of education in the United Kingdom to try to get the public to understand what was the real cause of the Hillsborough Disaster.

Then in November 2006, just days before Cohen said basically the same thing, MacKenzie again claimed that drunken Liverpool fans caused the disaster.

“I’m still reading the same old stuff about who’s responsible. And it’s the police, it’s the stadium, it’s whatever,” said Cohen in the April 13 radio episode. Cohen then inferred that the Liverpool fans don’t take responsibility for their own actions regarding the events that led up to the Hillsborough Tragedy. Despite his December, 2006 apology, he obviously hasn’t changed his controversial beliefs and he continues to appear on the Fox Football Fone-In show week-in week out.

It’s fitting that on the April 13 episode of the Fox show, it was co-host Nick Webster who paid tribute to the 20th anniversary of the Hillsborough Disaster in a pre-recorded segment at the end of the show. Cohen wasn’t included.

Conclusion
Twenty years after the Hillsborough Disaster, we’re still hearing the same old lies about what happened on that fateful day. It’s time for people to educate themselves about what really happened and stand up against those who fabricate misinformation. For our current generation and future generations, we owe it to them and the 96 who died to tell the real truth of what transpired in Sheffield on April 15, 1989.

To learn more about what really happened at the Hillsborough Disaster, read the Interim Taylor Report, and visit the Hillsborough Football Disaster and Hillsborough Justice Campaign websites.

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Re: Cohen spewing lies again!!
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2009, 11:56:19 AM »
You know the score - anyone spreading lies, "www.hfdinfo.com - read, learn, educate!" Keep it simple, these people love to sensationalise and hate it when you are rational with them.

This is the way forward educate the uneducated. Well done as ever 24/7.
Great booklet by the way. I understand you proof read it? Easy to read.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 11:56:55 AM »
This is the way forward educate the uneducated. Well done as ever 24/7.
Great booklet by the way. I understand you proof read it? Easy to read.
I only edited it. KiNki wrote it :) Proofing was a collective effort by lots of people feeding back errors through the channel. Cheers too. HFD refers to ALL the sources you'd need to look at to know more about the Disaster - references are in the glossary.

Oh and has he cited, clearly, his source for there having been 6,000 to 8,000 ticketless supporters? How does he know this? Someone put him on the spot to 'prove' it - because we know that police on the spot DISPROVED it and we know that the HSE's and SWFC's counts DISPROVED it. Challenge him
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 11:57:31 AM »
The picutre of this Charlie Tango angers me!!!!

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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2009, 12:04:57 PM »
Not being nasty for anything but he is obviously of Jewish extraction  , the vile filth he is coming  out with is just as bad as the vile shite people spew out about the Holocaust and if he heard or seem blogs like that he would be in uproar  so i say get informed or shut up .

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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 12:08:35 PM »
Someone needs to get on that show and knock him the fuck down a peg or 2!

People like that, you could give them all the information you want - they probly wouldn't even bother to read it.

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Re: Cohen spewing lies again!!
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2009, 12:09:00 PM »
The picutre of this Charlie Tango angers me!!!!

The t-shirt's as tasteless as his "Anfield Hud-caps" one.   ::)

The mention of his name angers me as much as a mention of the rag.

Can't help but dislike Chelsea a little bit more than I would expect because of this charlie as well.
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Re: Cohen spewing lies again!!
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2009, 12:09:31 PM »
niallers

Great spot on that article. We've had to put up with Cohen for a number of years and now his sidekick Kenny Hassan ( Glasgow Rangers fan) asked last friday "what do Liverpool fans want as Justice". He went on about the other tragedies like the Bradford fire and that people have come to terms with it. Just let things go.

Now before people in here have a go at Steven Cohen or Kenny Hassan, Steven is want to ALWAYS talk about the bile he gets off of Liverpool supporters and death threats he gets via emails. So if anyone emails him at the show or emails Fox Soccer Channel or Sirius satellite ( where his national radio program is) do it in a proper manner.

here is the link to the article above:

http://www.epltalk.com/steven-cohen-blames-liverpool-fans-for-hillsborough-disaster/5915/comment-page-1/#comment-42087
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2009, 12:11:09 PM »
Someone needs to get on that show and knock him the fuck down a peg or 2!

People like that, you could give them all the information you want - they probly wouldn't even bother to read it.

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People have, he laughs it off.

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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2009, 12:11:14 PM »
I fail to understand why people talk like they are informed on a subject matter when they obviously aren't. Not just with this but with everything.
so i say get informed or shut up .

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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2009, 12:13:48 PM »
niallers

Great spot on that article. We've had to put up with Cohen for a number of years and now his sidekick Kenny Hassan ( Glasgow Rangers fan) asked last friday "what do Liverpool fans want as Justice". He went on about the other tragedies like the Bradford fire and that people have come to terms with it. Just let things go.

Now before people in here have a go at Steven Cohen or Kenny Hassan, Steven is want to ALWAYS talk about the bile he gets off of Liverpool supporters and death threats he gets via emails. So if anyone emails him at the show or emails Fox Soccer Channel or Sirius satellite ( where his national radio program is) do it in a proper manner.

here is the link to the article above:

http://www.epltalk.com/steven-cohen-blames-liverpool-fans-for-hillsborough-disaster/5915/comment-page-1/#comment-42087

4pool, he seems to be an american version of McKenzie, unable to see the truth and unable to change his views, I'd be at a loss as to how to try and educate him?

maybe a letter from a lawyer ? god knows. It's quite depressing to read about it on here, it must be awful when you are in the U.S and he has one of the few National Football Radio shows so you have to listen to this bullshit regularly.

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Re: Cohen spewing lies again!!
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 12:14:21 PM »
To be fair Kenny Hassan his co host backs up Liverpool 95% of the time when Steven goes on his little rants.

Other then when he bad mouths Liverpool which I just laugh at nowadays I really enjoy the show, but this guy is a total prick which makes the show quite entertaining to listen to.

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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2009, 12:21:19 PM »
4pool, he seems to be an american version of McKenzie, unable to see the truth and unable to change his views, I'd be at a loss as to how to try and educate him?

maybe a letter from a lawyer ? god knows. It's quite depressing to read about it on here, it must be awful when you are in the U.S and he has one of the few National Football Radio shows so you have to listen to this bullshit regularly.

You got that part right.

Unfortunately he has the platform via his radio show and to a lesser extent his tv one as well and can sway "neutrals" opinions and that is the problem in the end.

I would just prefer he never brings the subject up as his opinion is not likely to change. Unless he has one of his own children who gets crushed, then and only then he'd want full enquiries and full answers himself.
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2009, 12:23:55 PM »
You got that part right.

Unfortunately he has the platform via his radio show and to a lesser extent his tv one as well and can sway "neutrals" opinions and that is the problem in the end.

I would just prefer he never brings the subject up as his opinion is not likely to change. Unless he has one of his own children who gets crushed, then and only then he'd want full enquiries and full answers himself.

Perhaps that is the way to go then.. ? Paint a horrible, vivid picture and make him look at it. I suppose someone already did, but..
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2009, 12:34:21 PM »
To be fair Kenny Hassan his co host backs up Liverpool 95% of the time when Steven goes on his little rants.

Other then when he bad mouths Liverpool which I just laugh at nowadays I really enjoy the show, but this guy is a total prick which makes the show quite entertaining to listen to.

Maybe its time to stop giving this guy the rating figures he's getting then, Stop listening to/Watching him & his ill informed shite.
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2009, 12:52:42 PM »
Maybe its time to stop giving this guy the rating figures he's getting then, Stop listening to/Watching him & his ill informed shite.

It's not that easy.

Even if every Liverpool supporter never listened to his show, it still grows. They primarily discuss the premier league. but they also discuss other European Leagues, the MLS, African football, South American football. etc.

As an example they have a Turkish football correspondent, African football expert, etc.

So the show is about more than just the Premier League. Unfortunately it gives him a platform to say what he wants.
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2009, 12:55:33 PM »
I'm guessing this is why he had to start a show in America, if he said stuff like that in England he'd be run out of the country. Spouting ignorance to the ignorant is easy for him.
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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2009, 01:02:30 PM »
Not being nasty for anything but he is obviously of Jewish extraction  , the vile filth he is coming  out with is just as bad as the vile shite people spew out about the Holocaust and if he heard or seem blogs like that he would be in uproar  so i say get informed or shut up .

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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2009, 01:12:45 PM »
Absolutely amazing how classless these 'people' are.

It's the 20th anniversary of 96 people crushed to death, and whether these idiots think they know what happened or not is besides the point really, the fact that they want to open their mouths and talk about the deceased this way it is an absolute fucking disgrace.
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2009, 01:26:49 PM »
Well maybe our illustrious owners can do something useful for once and use there influence and get the fucker the boot . Horrible twat .
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2009, 02:50:00 PM »
So if he believes the bollocks he spews he won't argue with someone who claims in the 70s and 80s all Chelsea fans were neo nazis (and still are).

Yes a lot on the shed were doing their zeig heils back then.

Maybe someone should ring him up and have him explain that.
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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2009, 02:56:26 PM »
Isn't he the Chelsea 'supporter' who spouts bile about Hillsborough and the city of Liverpool every chance he gets, what a twat, hope he gets bad aids

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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2009, 03:09:17 PM »
the guy is below pond scum.
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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2009, 03:18:16 PM »
We have an owner who has enough clout in the US media to shut this gobshites operations down with a single phone call.


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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2009, 04:06:02 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2009, 04:31:37 PM »
He's an absolute cock, that little shit.

The show itself is wank. So are the silly adverts on television trying to get you to tune in.

Don't ever bother listening to this chump, and tell any friends you have that it's a piss poor excuse for a decent footy show.
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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2009, 04:38:34 PM »
Until real justice is done we are going to get fucking shitehouses like this mouthing off.

They need putting in their place once and for all.
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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2009, 04:48:25 PM »

Now before people in here have a go at Steven Cohen or Kenny Hassan, Steven is want to ALWAYS talk about the bile he gets off of Liverpool supporters and death threats he gets via emails. So if anyone emails him at the show or emails Fox Soccer Channel or Sirius satellite ( where his national radio program is) do it in a proper manner.


What? As in actually kill him?

 ;)
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Re: Cohen spewing lies again!!
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2009, 04:53:23 PM »
What? As in actually kill him?

 ;)

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he's on our 'jihad' list along with michael wolff and aizlewood.

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Re: Cohen spewing lies again!!
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2009, 04:57:29 PM »
I've had it out with this fucking c.unt before. sad prick will never learn. he doesn't care what he's saying or what actually happened, he just hates scousers.

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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2009, 05:14:16 PM »
i would really like to speak to him in person and see if he's so tough when not behind the safety of a microphone.

I'm pretty sure i'd be arrested by the end of our "conversation"

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« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2009, 05:20:34 PM »
We have an owner who has enough clout in the US media to shut this gobshites operations down with a single phone call.



We should email Hicks & Gillett and tell them to put this twunt in his place.
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« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2009, 05:20:53 PM »
Found this comment from the link above:
Grant Freer 04.20.09 at 11:00 am

    I wrote to Steve Cohen earlier this morning and would like to share with everyone the contents of my email to him, along with the vitriolic reply that i received shortly thereafter which I feel all the readers should be aware of:

    Attention Steven Cohen:

    Mr. Cohen,

    Your comments on WSD on April 13th, 2009 are disgraceful.

    Your assertion that the Hillsborough Disaster in 1989 was due to 6,000-8,000 Liverpool Fans without tickets is outrageous and typifies the type of sheer reckless unsubstantiated and uninformed statements that Kelvin MacKenzie also spouted in The Sun Newspaper in England 20 years ago. Have you even read the Taylor Report? Were you even in attendance that Fateful April Day? I was Mr. Cohen, and I, along with thousands of others, take offence to your ignorance. To use your public forum to vent your own misguided beliefs that have no basis of fact and serve only to air your inflated ego and fill the minds of young impressionable soccer fans in America is even more disturbing. Was it not bad enough that you had to apologize for your long-held beliefs the first time you verbalized your “Conspiracy Theory” in 2006? Not only are your comments and long-held misplaced beliefs a disgrace to the families directly affected by the disaster, as well as the rest of us that will never forget what happened that day 20 years ago, but your professionalism and objectivity (or lack thereof) further call in to question your self-inflated reputation as being some sort of authority on soccer here, especially here in the United States, where for reasons unbeknown to me, someone actually thinks you warrant having a microphone and an audience. You are in the wrong Mr. Cohen. Ordinarily a sincere apology would be appropriate, but that’s a road you have traveled down before and it clearly hasn’t changed your perspective one iota.

    If you would like to actually speak with someone who was there that day, please give me a call here in Florida and I would be only too pleased to give you an informed eye-witness first hand account. Not that i think for one minute that would, nor do i think that you have any desire whatsover to understand and become informed of the facts, which are well documented.

    Grant Freer
    Boca Raton, Florida

    The reply I received from Steve Cohen rather quickly was as follows:

    “No i am not and you should consider the facts. Liverpool are at the center of almost every serious human violation of conduct. Heysel, Hillsbrough, Alan Smityh, Singing about Munich 58, throwing shit on United fans at Anfield, Michael Shields…are you seriously telling me that you are not guilty of any of this.

    2 events
    4 years
    2 different cities
    2 different countries
    2 different stadium

    135 dead

    Only common link….well have a guess.

    This not meant as disrespect for the 96 or their famalies but Justice…waht justice are you looking for…to be relieved of the shame and guilt and if you can get the South Yorkshire police to admit something juust to get you off their backs…that is what you are talking about.”

    Cheers,
    Steven.

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Re: Cohen spewing lies again!!
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2009, 05:22:19 PM »
He's not interested in facts. It has to be taken above his head if anything is to be done.
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« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2009, 05:25:28 PM »
My God, that's sickening. You could just how excited he was to rattle a reply back to you. He is clearly someone who cannot be reasoned with and will refuse to learn. Reds just have to stop listening to his show and tell all their friends and others to avoid it.
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« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2009, 05:26:33 PM »
The man is clearly not worth the effort. Needs to go over his head.
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Re: Cohen spewing lies again!!
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2009, 05:26:40 PM »
Is that seriously what he wrote back?  Holy fuk, I'm blowing up over here.  Can't believe I just read that.  I don't throw around the charlie uniform thing a lot, but he really is one. 
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