Topic: New kit???

[Liamski-la]

I have supported the HJC long and hard, and as a Hillsborough veteran myself, always will.

I have to say though, they've shot themselves in the foot a bit with that statement.   There's no reason why they couldn't of released a statement a bit more tactfully worded, to let their dissapointment be known, but kept a more conciliatory tone.
I fear that in the long run, this is exactly why the club seem to want to keep the HJC at arms length, whilst at the same time supporting and passing dialouge with the HFSG.

Its disappointing to say the least.

It has simply exposed on a national level that there are splits and agendas at play here and will inevitably lead to people on the outside looking in to question the integrity of HSFG/HJC/LFC.

Obviously, we all know that their key concern is supporting the families and gaining justice for them on behalf of the 96 so surely, looking at the bigger picture, the moving or redesigning of a badge is not something that they should be focusing on. I understand why they have had their noses put out of place but I think this has blown up and everybody, and I mean everybody looks a little silly and the whole kit launch and the new start that we'd all like to have it associated has been tainted with the usual soap opera that seems to surround LFC.

There is a reasonably new board of directors at Anfield now. Surely there were better ways of getting the HJC more recognition from LFC than has previously been the case than perhaps alienating themselves?

Just to emphasise, I don't mean any disrespect here. Just saying it as I see it.

[24/7]

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Someone entitled to take their unspeakably idiotic "opinion" and shove it. Sick of hearing about people telling us, tell me, to "let it go ffs".

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[S7ARZ]

What teams will we come up against where we're going to have to wear the alternate kit?

[Hyypia headers]

What teams will we come up against where we're going to have to wear the alternate kit?

Arsenal, Stoke, Southhampton, Sunderland, plenty of chances.

[PepsiRebina]

What teams will we come up against where we're going to have to wear the alternate kit?

Cardiff.

[WhiteHeat]

Not sure that was the best move from the HJC to make that statement.

[Big Red Richie]

Mods.

Might be an idea to split this thread off and let every one know why.


This is the shirt thread, and respectfully to all, shouldn't be getting into the realms of the HJC statement, and any schizms within the HJC/HFSG/LFC.


Just thought it needed saying.

[jimmyjr86]

What teams will we come up against where we're going to have to wear the alternate kit?

Subbuteo set from 1980.

[thekremlin]

I think its the best kit we've had in ages. Definitely going to buy it. Not yet though unfortunately. Skint.

Well done on the quick clean up and ban btw. Top moderating.

[buzzing]

Whilst I fully support the HJC- involved in distributing information locally, donating money, competing in the HJCFT and attending the memorials (as we should), I can't help feel a little disappointed by that story on BBC today regarding the flames and crest.  I think the new strip is excellent and I love the bold Liverbird- I always though our bird was lost in the shield.  Warrior have incorporated the flames and the 96 number on the back of the neck, which I feel is sufficient and shows our remembrance of those who mean alot to us.

I was not there on that horrible day and I cannot image what those families must be going through, but this is just my personal view and it took me a while to consider what my feelings are on it... I obviously don't wish to upset anyone, but I personally like it with the bold single bird...

Aslong as there is a reference to our lost ones, surely there is not a problem?  Maybe I am wrong...

Agreed

Even before the launch it's not the HJC the club sees as "official" so even if it's wrong, the club were in their right to do it as they did

Statement seems to suggest there were no flames what so ever, even though the flames + 96 are on the back - 96...at least it's there for people to see and further more will bring up the issue and hopefully, finally bring out the truth

[PepsiRebina]

I know this may sound a bit harsh or disrespectful not that i mean to be, but don't you think it's a little "spoiled" by HJC to complain over something like this?.The flames are still on the kit, the club shouldn't need to notify anybody.

[Hyypia headers]

Mods.

Might be an idea to split this thread off and let every one know why.


This is the shirt thread, and respectfully to all, shouldn't be getting into the realms of the HJC statement, and any schizms within the HJC/HFSG/LFC.


Just thought it needed saying.

I would agree with this.

[buzzing]

Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell me the exact font type of the lettering under the bird?

i.e. I have a mate in China who can get some cheap red t-shirts and i wanna flog a few on ebay  

[A Feint Zebra]

I wouldn't have got Nauman on it, he's getting sold this summer. Don't tell him though

 

[4pool]

For those unaware of the difference of the various Hillsborough groups read this:

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=293382.0

[thekremlin]

For those unaware of the difference of the various Hillsborough groups read this:

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=293382.0

Is there a reason the club are reluctant to treat HJC the same as HFSG?

[It's Jimmy Corkhill]

People disappointed at the HJC?

To redress the balance, I am disappointed at LFC for their continued disrespect of some victims families by their failure to even recognise the HJC.

[Nessy76]

Is there a reason the club are reluctant to treat HJC the same as HFSG?

The club has said in the past that they would prefer to deal with just one organisation.

[lakes]

as some that lost a close friend that day i feel sad that it has been taken off the front of the shirts.
not only that team photos are not taken of the back of players but players will no longer kiss it when they kiss the badge.

[Jellies]

I know this may sound a bit harsh or disrespectful not that i mean to be, but don't you think it's a little "spoiled" by HJC to complain over something like this?.The flames are still on the kit, the club shouldn't need to notify anybody.

No disrespect, but you should really read HJC's statement. You clearly haven't, and I think it's shocking that you speak about something without even trying to understand the case.

[vNauuuM]

I hate that this kit is only for 1 season, not like the past 2 which have both been for 2 seasons

I really like the 96 Hillsborough on the collar at the back! <3

[thekremlin]

The club has said in the past that they would prefer to deal with just one organisation.

Thanks. It seems a bit limited on the club's side if the organisation (HJC) has done nothing to warrant being treated that way.

[Z e u s]

I think the statement by the HJC was uneccesary.

But then again I thought they were also wrong not to accept the apology and donation from Alan Davies.

[Bakez0151]

Well my kids kits always last the 2 seasons , Just think every 2 years is about right

when i was a kid, i got the liverpool kit as my main birthday present! so me ma n da were happy gettin it coz they knew what to get me and i'd be usin it to play footy in, rather than gettin computer games etc

[readybreck]

People disappointed at the HJC?

To redress the balance, I am disappointed at LFC for their continued disrespect of some victims families by their failure to even recognise the HJC.

+1

[Macphisto80]

I think the statement by the HJC was uneccesary.

But then again I thought they were also wrong not to accept the apology and donation from Alan Davies.

Oh they weren't wrong to tell him to stick his token donation up his hole because he suddenly felt obliged to. In fact, they should have come out with a statement telling the c*nt to stick it where the sun don't shine in those exact words.

[PIPA23]

I would have liked to see a single flame next to the Liverbird, but by putting the "96" on the shirts you will get alot more people asking what that is about. Most fans of other clubs (and dare I say it, alot of our own) didn 't know what the flames on the badge meant. A 96 will get them to ask "why 96?" and it will make many more people aware of Hillsborough.

exactly, nice idea.. and imho it belongs there from now on with the 96 as well...not just the flames..

[7777]

3 kids = fortune but it's boss. Might even get one for myself and the last time I got one they were £4.99 in Sports Direct

[Fordy]

All wearing the kit on the LFC TV  - Friday Night Live.

Looks totally boss.

Put 434 on.

[Hij]

Oh they weren't wrong to tell him to stick his token donation up his hole because he suddenly felt obliged to. In fact, they should have come out with a statement telling the c*nt to stick it where the sun don't shine in those exact words.

I don't think that would really achieve anything other than allow people to paint us out as partisan. It's a shame that LFC do not speak to the HJC on the same terms that they speak to the HFSG but I do think the statement could have been more tactfully worded.

[Valore]

Personally, I think the flames being apart from the crest might not be a bad thing for raising awareness.

As part of the crest, people may just assume its part of the design, and never think to ask what significance the torches have.

Now on its own with the 96 written on it, people will see it, and if they are uneducated about Hillsborough, might be curious enough to ask what the torches and the 96 signify.

[lakes]

Personally, I think the flames being apart from the crest might not be a bad thing for raising awareness.

As part of the crest, people may just assume its part of the design, and never think to ask what significance the torches have.

Now on its own with the 96 written on it, people will see it, and if they are uneducated about Hillsborough, might be curious enough to ask what the torches and the 96 signify.

Only if team photos are now taken of the back of players, in truth no one will see it on the back.

[Valore]

Only if team photos are now taken of the back of players, in truth no one will see it on the back.

I assume team photos won't be the only place they're seen though, surely plenty of people will buy their own kit and notice it at one point or another.

[Fanxxxxtastic]

All wearing the kit on the LFC TV  - Friday Night Live.

Looks totally boss.

Put 434 on.

Agree, it looks boss, but when I first tuned in, I was thinking, is that the new shirt or not?  Looks nothing like a footy shirt.  Suppose that's due to the new one having no stripes or the like on it.

Can't wait to get one! (When I can afford it).

[Fanxxxxtastic]

I assume team photos won't be the only place they're seen though, surely plenty of people will buy their own kit and notice it at one point or another.

Not forgetting cameras picking it up during televised games too.

[red_dub]

class kit, best i've seen in a long time, look forward to getting it or a training top.
i think the 96 is brilliant as it will get people asking more questions especially around the world. unfotunatly alot of people don't know wat the flames represent on the badge

[Shady77]

Personally, I think the flames being apart from the crest might not be a bad thing for raising awareness.

As part of the crest, people may just assume its part of the design, and never think to ask what significance the torches have.

Now on its own with the 96 written on it, people will see it, and if they are uneducated about Hillsborough, might be curious enough to ask what the torches and the 96 signify.

I think that will defo be the case, I know some Liverpool supporters (well claim to fucking be ) that didn't know what the flames on the side if the crest stood for

[Robert_B]

Overall I like the new shirt, just 2 things:

1) I think the flames could easily still be next to the Liverbird or the LFC, and it'd still have the minimalistic thing going on.

2) The collar is shocking. if it was a proper polo top collar it'd be really nice. As it is, it looks really tacky.

[Barney_Rubble]

Think we need a clean slate. Will start a fresh topic, from the announcement yesterday.

Too much to split from this one.