Author Topic: Stoke City vs. Liverpool - Saturday January 10th, 5:30pm - Pre-Match Thread (Read 20232 times)

grifter · « **Reply #360 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:05:48 AM »

Quote from: Fordy on January 10, 2009, 10:45:11 AM

No he said ground heating is not required for the Championship and he wants it for the PL.

No he never, a new pitch was laid at St Andrews while they in the PL and O'sullivan regretted not taking that oppurtunity to install undersoil heating then so therefore it is not mandatory. The question is undersoil heating required by PL clubs ? No. Hence Pompey v Man City called off today and Birmingham never had it while in the PL. I'm not arsed anyway

djsworddog · « **Reply #361 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:06:01 AM »

Quote from: STORMTROOPER on January 10, 2009, 11:01:01 AM

is gedo gonna tell us the liverpool team for third game in a row?

He's put one in the 'Rafa on SSN' topic in the forum. Although he doesn't seem quite as sure this time. Usually not far wrong tho!

M.A.G.M · « **Reply #362 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:06:16 AM »

Quote from: STORMTROOPER on January 10, 2009, 11:01:01 AM

is gedo gonna tell us the liverpool team for third game in a row?

Quote from: Gedo on January 10, 2009, 10:15:08 AM

Nando makes is comeback in this must win game.
Reina
Carragher Hyypia Agger Aureilio
Kuyt Lucas Mascherano Riera
Gerrard
Torres
I'm not edging my bets but Rafa could spring a late surprise and alternate Keane and Lucas,with all the commotion at Melwood yesterday,that was as near as damn it,i could get off me mate

I hope he's right because that team is spot on.

Helsinki Red · « **Reply #363 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:09:25 AM »

I hope Gedo is right because that team looks really strong.

rocco · « **Reply #364 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:11:21 AM »

Gedo also the fella who said hyypia and keane hadn't travelled maybe right ?

zionistzidane · « **Reply #365 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:11:54 AM »

any truth to the rumour that keane is not travelling?

west_london_red · « **Reply #366 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:14:16 AM »

Quote from: Helsinki Red on January 10, 2009, 11:09:25 AM

I hope Gedo is right because that team looks really strong.

I would play Benayoun in place of Kuyt as we will have loads of the ball. Kuyts work rate will go to waste against a team with 11 men behind the ball.

Fordy · « **Reply #367 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:15:06 AM »

Quote from: zionistzidane on January 10, 2009, 11:11:54 AM

any truth to the rumour that keane is not travelling?

Why wouldnt he?

James B · « **Reply #368 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:15:51 AM »

Quote from: Fordy on January 10, 2009, 11:15:06 AM

Why wouldnt he?

StokieJim · « **Reply #369 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:18:44 AM »

Just to alleviate any fears about postponement...

We apparently have one of the best undersoil heating systems in England. I can't remember the last home game that was called off due to frost (not for a couple years anyway) despite the stadium acting as a giant wind tunnel

Now watch me end up with egg on my face when the game is called off

Helsinki Red · « **Reply #370 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:19:35 AM »

Quote from: zionistzidane on January 10, 2009, 11:11:54 AM

any truth to the rumour that keane is not travelling?

Someone said yesteday that Keane and Hyypiä are not in the team and that Aurelio is still a doubt. No source though so probably not true.

zionistzidane · « **Reply #371 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:22:58 AM »

Quote from: Helsinki Red on January 10, 2009, 11:19:35 AM

Someone said yesteday that Keane and Hyypiä are not in the team and that Aurelio is still a doubt. No source though so probably not true.

hmmm... I've got Keane in my fantasy football team... if he is not travelling, I'll have to change it... by half 11! argh... can anyone please confirm???

djsworddog · « **Reply #372 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:24:17 AM »

Quote from: StokieJim on January 10, 2009, 11:18:44 AM

Just to alleviate any fears about postponement...

We apparently have one of the best undersoil heating systems in England. I can't remember the last home game that was called off due to frost (not for a couple years anyway) despite the stadium acting as a giant wind tunnel

Now watch me end up with egg on my face when the game is called off

Do they let fans in the Harvester mate?

Fordy · « **Reply #373 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:25:01 AM »

Quote from: Helsinki Red on January 10, 2009, 11:19:35 AM

Someone said yesteday that Keane and Hyypiä are not in the team and that Aurelio is still a doubt. No source though so probably not true.

Well for me with Abby injured. Sami must play so I would be shocked to find out he is not in the squad.

With Torres only played 20 mins or so again I would be shocked to find Keane not in the squad.

With Aurelio I feel he has to play however if he is injured it comes as no real shock.

Alonso_The_Assassin · « **Reply #374 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:25:07 AM »

Quote from: zionistzidane on January 10, 2009, 11:22:58 AM

hmmm... I've got Keane in my fantasy football team... if he is not travelling, I'll have to change it... by half 11! argh... can anyone please confirm???

Haha, same, mate. Think it's bullshit. Aurellio is fit, and the person who was spruking about Keane and Hyypia said he wasn't.

Keane will be on the bench.

Fordy · « **Reply #375 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:27:17 AM »

Quote from: zionistzidane on January 10, 2009, 11:22:58 AM

hmmm... I've got Keane in my fantasy football team... if he is not travelling, I'll have to change it... by half 11! argh... can anyone please confirm???

iverpool striker Fernando Torres is set to play in the league for the first time since November after injury.

Alvaro Arbeloa (hamstring) is unlikely to be involved, and Xabi Alonso (foot) is out, but Javier Mascherano returns.

Stoke (from): Sorensen, Wilkinson, Davies, Shawcross, Sonko, Abdoulaye Faye, Dickinson, Higginbotham, Lawrence, Etherington, Soares, Kitson, Tonge, Diao, Delap, Olofinjana, Whelan, Pugh, Cresswell, Pericard, Simonsen.

Liverpool (from): Reina, Carragher, Agger, Hyypia, Skrtel, Aurelio, Benayoun, Lucas, Mascherano, Gerrard, Babel, Keane, Kuyt, Torres, Riera, Ngog, El Zhar, Cavalieri.

zionistzidane · « **Reply #376 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:37:48 AM »

Well, I bottled it and swapped Keane for Adebayor for today (couldn't afford Torres...

) cost me 4 points, but at least he is sure to play...

But if Keane is on the bench... why was he bought at all? Surely he was bought to play behind Torres? You don't pay £19 million for a sub, who is not even a replacement for Torres as he is not a striker - especially when you already have he likes of Babel and Kuyt. I assumed he was bought for Keane to play just behind Torres, but why would he not play them both against Stoke? It is hardly a fixture where you need the second holding midfielder...

I really don't understand what Rafa is doing with Keane...

Hopefully we will score a couple early on and Torres can be rested for the last half hour, give Keane a chance.

Alonso_The_Assassin · « **Reply #377 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:44:50 AM »

Bigger question will be if Doseena gets a bench spot. It's cold and we know how Aurellio is in regards to picking up "knocks". Particularly in this cold weather. And before you say anything, don't give me the whole "Agger on the left" theory. It dosen't wash.

One of these · « **Reply #378 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:46:45 AM »

Quote from: M.A.G.M on January 7, 2009, 01:57:23 PM

Great team and would rip Stoke-on-Trent a new one.

That seems to be what Rafa thinks too.

PattoLFC · « **Reply #379 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:47:09 AM »

Wouldnt mind seeing skrtel and agger in the middle together and carra on the right, but as stoke do those long throwings then i guess hyypia is a more sensible and better choice for this game.

By the way is it on setanta?

zionistzidane · « **Reply #380 on:** January 10, 2009, 11:59:41 AM »

Please, don't consider Dossena, not even for a bench spot. I'd rather have me nan as left back... and she is right-footed...

HiroProtagonist · « **Reply #381 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:01:52 PM »

Quote from: zionistzidane on January 10, 2009, 11:59:41 AM

Please, don't consider Dossena, not even for a bench spot. I'd rather have me nan as left back... and she is right-footed...

rocco · « **Reply #382 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:04:43 PM »

Quote from: MEPA on January 10, 2009, 12:01:52 PM

No need to role your eyes young man

rocco · « **Reply #383 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:08:08 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on January 10, 2009, 12:05:03 PM

I dont see the issue in playing Torres, provided Torres himself is ready.

From what I have read about Hamstrings, they depend on the player so if they are 100% confident then we have to take the players word for it. I very much doubt Torres would say he is ready if he wasnt as it wouldnt benefit him, us or anyone else involved!

We should play him if he is 100% ready. I wouldnt worried about him getting kicked around, he is grown boy now, he can take it. Anyway, its not an impact injury that he is coming back from is it?

Him running through into space on his own is going to be more of a risk of him having an injury than getting kicked by the Stoke players.

Torres looked fine when he came on as a sub v Preston ... would rather see a player start who has hamstring trouble than come off the bench .

Filler. · « **Reply #384 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:12:21 PM »

I'd be fine with Dossena today - won't be too under threat I don't think (he'll have some questions asked of course), but he can send it some really good cross field balls in when he gets a bit of time on the ball. Might be fruitful?

JamieB · « **Reply #385 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:17:24 PM »

Thats a strong team Gedo mentioned. Any reason as to why Keane and Hyypia are rumoured not to travel? Can only imagine an injury as regards to Hyypia (700th cap and all that)?

Fordy · « **Reply #386 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:18:52 PM »

Quote from: JamieBadham on January 10, 2009, 12:17:24 PM

Thats a strong team Gedo mentioned. Any reason as to why Keane and Hyypia are rumoured not to travel? Can only imagine an injury as regards to Hyypia (700th cap and all that)?

They have travelled

rocco · « **Reply #387 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:20:09 PM »

Quote from: Filler. on January 10, 2009, 12:12:21 PM

I'd be fine with Dossena today - won't be too under threat I don't think (he'll have some questions asked of course), but he can send it some really good cross field balls in when he gets a bit of time on the ball. Might be fruitful?

No thanks .

SadRed · « **Reply #388 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:22:28 PM »

Quote from: zionistzidane on January 10, 2009, 11:59:41 AM

Please, don't consider Dossena, not even for a bench spot. I'd rather have me nan as left back... and she is right-footed...

Whats with you?

Liverbird 2010 · « **Reply #389 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:33:15 PM »

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footb....ge-1225861.html

The Argentina coach will arrive in England before Saturday and watch Liverpool's Javier Mascherano against Stoke City before seeing Carlos Tevez play for Manchester United against Chelsea.

Mr_Miyagi · « **Reply #390 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:33:55 PM »

Quote from: SadRed on January 10, 2009, 12:22:28 PM

Whats with you?

What's with you? Are you up for superfan of the year?

Gaz123456 · « **Reply #391 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:36:40 PM »

Hopefully we'll give Torres 70 minutes and then be able to take him off. If Keane is on the bench he will probably come on.

SadRed · « **Reply #392 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:36:46 PM »

Quote from: Mr_Miyagi on January 10, 2009, 12:33:55 PM

What's with you? Are you up for superfan of the year?

Slating Rafa for team selection because it cost points on his fantasy team is blasphemy, we dont even know the team yet.

ollick · « **Reply #393 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:38:30 PM »

Quote from: zionistzidane on January 10, 2009, 11:37:48 AM

It is hardly a fixture where you need the second holding midfielder...

We don't play with two holding midfielders, you should listen to Rafa not those c*nts on Sky.

Mr_Miyagi · « **Reply #394 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:39:24 PM »

Quote from: SadRed on January 10, 2009, 12:36:46 PM

Slating Rafa for team selection because it cost points on his fantasy team is blasphemy, we dont even know the team yet.

That's a yes then.

Mighty_Red · « **Reply #395 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:40:47 PM »

Im not worried about the pitch, Stoke have a fairly newish stadium for Im sure the designed it well and undersoil heating wouldnt have cost that much.

Looks like Torres is starting, if so I think it will be a similar team to the newcastle match with Lucas in the middle and Keane on the bench

robbie96 · « **Reply #396 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:43:13 PM »

Quote from: rocco on January 10, 2009, 12:20:09 PM

No thanks .

Tut, tut....I remember a certain Brazilian being slated for being substandard and given time and backing from the fans he came good....I think the Irish guy was like that too?!

rocco · « **Reply #397 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:45:49 PM »

Quote from: robbie96 on January 10, 2009, 12:43:13 PM

Tut, tut....I remember a certain Brazilian being slated for being substandard and given time and backing from the fans he came good....I think the Irish guy was like that too?!

Ive always seen things in our players that made me think they will make it with us , just can't see it with Dossena ... luv it if im wrong.

robbie96 · « **Reply #398 on:** January 10, 2009, 12:48:07 PM »

Quote from: rocco on January 10, 2009, 12:45:49 PM

Ive always seen things in our players that made me think they will make it with us , just can't see it with Dossena ... luv it if im wrong.

cheers

thredworm · « **Reply #399 on:** January 10, 2009, 01:00:12 PM »

I don't mind if Dossena is playing today. Besides, all the criticism he gets would be like water over a ducks bath...