Author Topic: Luis Garcia Offered Out On Loan (Read 2178 times)

Asha D · « **on:** December 31, 2008, 01:01:08 PM »

Just seen on sky sports news Atletico Madrid have offered Luis Garcia out on loan to Tottenham, Middlesbrough, Portsmouth and Blackburn.

Wouldnt mind having him here for the rest of the season!

scouser4eva · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2008, 01:02:24 PM »

Pompey will get him

rakey_lfc · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2008, 01:02:49 PM »

I saw that and thought please do not go to spurs!

He'd be nothing more of a fringe player here now, so may as well go somewhere like boro or pompey

OLDIE · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2008, 01:03:24 PM »

No thanks, lets remember his great days at Anfield, a second stint will no doubt taint those memories.

Thanks Louis but not this time mate

CHOPPER · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2008, 01:10:54 PM »

Not one of them teams needs a float in and out the game flair type of player.
As much as i love the little fella, he's not going to do himself any favours coming back to the prem.

KatyP · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2008, 01:19:40 PM »

Quote from: OLDIE on December 31, 2008, 01:03:24 PM

No thanks, lets remember his great days at Anfield, a second stint will no doubt taint those memories.

Thanks Louis but not this time mate

Sums it up for me.

misskopite · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:29:26 PM »

That's odd, thought the whole point of his move to Atletico was because he had to go back to Spain, and it would be easier on his family. I wouldn't want Lil Luis playing for any other English club, even if it's just a short term loan spell.

Kaka 22 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:32:44 PM »

Quote from: CHOPPER on December 31, 2008, 01:10:54 PM

Not one of them teams needs a float in and out the game flair type of player.
As much as i love the little fella, he's not going to do himself any favours coming back to the prem.

I reckon he'd potentially be a good signing for Boro, defo not a blackburn style of player now.

Crouchy · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:37:04 PM »

Blackburn don't play long ball football, not yet anyway. I'm sure it'll kick in though.

Kaka 22 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:40:14 PM »

its inevitable, plus he offers nothing Keith Andres doesn't, snigger.

Kyle Soprano · « **Reply #10 on:** December 31, 2008, 05:16:18 PM »

Stay in Spain lad.

Gaz Jenkins · « **Reply #11 on:** December 31, 2008, 05:58:34 PM »

Hmm, Luis was great for us during his time here, but I just don't think he could cut it in the Prem anymore

Strummer77 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 31, 2008, 06:04:27 PM »

What a player this man was at times. Frustrating? Yes. Genius when needed? No doubt about it.

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #13 on:** December 31, 2008, 06:24:57 PM »

Don't want to tarnish the magical memories of him at Anfield - so no returns.

Gaz123456 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 31, 2008, 07:03:49 PM »

Stay in Spain Luis, keep the memories classic

Xxavi · « **Reply #15 on:** December 31, 2008, 07:09:04 PM »

Strange, that both him and Reyes couldn't make it into the first 11 of Atletico. Both were national team players at one point.

Gigantic Lamb · « **Reply #16 on:** December 31, 2008, 07:12:32 PM »

Quote from: Gaz123456 on December 31, 2008, 07:03:49 PM

Stay in Spain Luis, keep the memories classic

Ditto

Serano · « **Reply #17 on:** December 31, 2008, 11:43:54 PM »

Quote from: Xxavi on December 31, 2008, 07:09:04 PM

Strange, that both him and Reyes couldn't make it into the first 11 of Atletico. Both were national team players at one point.

Well to be fair he has Maxi and Simao in front of him, not helped by the fact that you could proably count the number of good games Luis has had at Atletico on one hand. I don't think he is liked by the fans at all.

As for Reyes, never been the same since he left for Sevilla. They Reyes of Sevilla would make most teams XI's.

fowlerisgod96 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2008, 11:50:38 PM »

While we're at it lets get Fowler back

And maybe Stephane Henchoz.

He's struggling back in Spain, where its not as physical and a bit slower. If he came back, I'm afraid to say he'd be absolute shite. Wouldnt want him anywhere near another English club, people'd just be ready to say 'See, he was shit'. Unless it was to scorea dodgy winner against Chelsea that costs them the title and lets us in.....now there's a thought

Green Gooner · « **Reply #19 on:** January 1, 2009, 12:39:54 AM »

Quote from: Serano on December 31, 2008, 11:43:54 PM

Well to be fair he has Maxi and Simao in front of him, not helped by the fact that you could proably count the number of good games Luis has had at Atletico on one hand. I don't think he is liked by the fans at all.

As for Reyes, never been the same since he left for Sevilla. They Reyes of Sevilla would make most teams XI's.

Reyes was looking promising at Arsenal until the inbred Neville brothers took turns in kicking bits out of him.

A stronger character would hav rose above that. But Reyes ran to Spain with his tail between his legs. Its a shame he's such a pussy, he could have been a great footballer. Now his career is gone to the dogs.

Cruiser · « **Reply #20 on:** January 1, 2009, 01:24:05 AM »

One of the nicest guys out there, found it tough going breaking into Atletico's team but would be a big mistake if he came back here.

He should take the offer if one of the mid-table or lower La Liga clubs come in for him.

Xxavi · « **Reply #21 on:** January 1, 2009, 06:30:41 AM »

Quote from: Serano on December 31, 2008, 11:43:54 PM

Well to be fair he has Maxi and Simao in front of him, not helped by the fact that you could proably count the number of good games Luis has had at Atletico on one hand. I don't think he is liked by the fans at all.

As for Reyes, never been the same since he left for Sevilla. They Reyes of Sevilla would make most teams XI's.

Simao has been on fire, but Maxi has been well below par for me. He got captains armband for a reason, but Simao seems twice the player Maxi is. Hell, everyone in attack, Forlan, Aguero, Simao, Maniche seem better than Maxi. At least for me.
Dunno what happened to him.

bigbear · « **Reply #22 on:** January 1, 2009, 08:07:45 AM »

It would be very sad to see the little fella back struggling at some shite side and going in and out of the side.

I hope he can find himself a game in spain.

Heno · « **Reply #23 on:** January 1, 2009, 08:47:02 AM »

All part of the master plan, if he joins one of the above mentioned clubs and brings out a bit of his magic against our title rivals his legacy will be complete

Red Squiggle · « **Reply #24 on:** January 1, 2009, 03:51:29 PM »

Quote from: Xxavi on January 1, 2009, 06:30:41 AM

Simao has been on fire, but Maxi has been well below par for me. He got captains armband for a reason, but Simao seems twice the player Maxi is. Hell, everyone in attack, Forlan, Aguero, Simao, Maniche seem better than Maxi. At least for me.
Dunno what happened to him.

I guess the goal against us, the two he scored against Espanyol, the goal he scored the week before and more this season don't count then. I watch a fair bit of Spanish football and every time I've seen Maxi this season he's really padded out the right wing position and made it his own. Looks a quality player if you ask me and is on really good form. Always looks good playing for Argentina too.

Just from what I've seen though, you might have seen more of him.

Xxavi · « **Reply #25 on:** January 1, 2009, 09:02:46 PM »

Quote from: Red Squiggle on January 1, 2009, 03:51:29 PM

I guess the goal against us, the two he scored against Espanyol, the goal he scored the week before and more this season don't count then. I watch a fair bit of Spanish football and every time I've seen Maxi this season he's really padded out the right wing position and made it his own. Looks a quality player if you ask me and is on really good form. Always looks good playing for Argentina too.

Just from what I've seen though, you might have seen more of him.

No, you might have seen more, I don't watch Atletico much.
I mean, somebody in Atletico Madrid attack has to be overrated, IMO. They are not a better team than Villarreal, and they weren't better last season, too. But people compare Aguero to Messi, some claim he's the best forward in the world. People praise Forlan, and I think he's a quality player. Simao has been brilliant, Maniche was good. And you say Maxi is good.

Then, I have to ask, why Atletico is not so good in league?! I don't know, probably their defense is that bad. On the other hand, nobody praises Villarreal as much. They are good in the league, they have Rossi, Llorente and Nihat up front, with Cazorla in support.

Anyways, I think Reyes would be just as good instead of Maxi. And Simao is really quality for them. I feel, he's rightly ahead of Quaresma in pecking order for Portugal

Red Squiggle · « **Reply #26 on:** January 1, 2009, 11:45:02 PM »

Ah no worries, maybe Atletico, in the same way as a Tottenham or Arsenal, as a capital city team are lavished with more praise for their attacking football than a team like Villareal, who are miserly in defence but in comparison to say a Bolton over here, play wonderful possession football and have some real football players.

Aguero is a quality player but is not as gifted as Messi, who is truly one of the great talents of his generation. Similarly, Forlan is a decent but not spectactular player. On their day any of the Atletico forward line have the quality needed to win a game, but when their defence is so fragile that someone will HAVE to score to get any type of result and they're constantly shipping goals they'll always struggle to break into the highest echelons in the league.

cornelius · « **Reply #27 on:** January 2, 2009, 12:50:30 AM »

Quote from: misskopite on December 31, 2008, 04:29:26 PM

That's odd, thought the whole point of his move to Atletico was because he had to go back to Spain, and it would be easier on his family.

Yep, another myth perpetuated by people on here to win their arguments at the time.

Daranoza · « **Reply #28 on:** January 2, 2009, 09:38:34 PM »

Wasn't a myth Cornelius. He said it himself a few times, that he was missing home. That his family were missing home. He was finding it harder and harder to be away from Spain, especially in his last year with us.

In fact, he said it in an interview for LFCTV quite recently...

Perhaps a six month loan would not be so hard on them. At least there is a time limit for when they would be returning.

Degs · « **Reply #29 on:** January 2, 2009, 09:46:17 PM »

Quote from: Xxavi on January 1, 2009, 09:02:46 PM

No, you might have seen more, I don't watch Atletico much.
I mean, somebody in Atletico Madrid attack has to be overrated, IMO. They are not a better team than Villarreal, and they weren't better last season, too. But people compare Aguero to Messi, some claim he's the best forward in the world. People praise Forlan, and I think he's a quality player. Simao has been brilliant, Maniche was good. And you say Maxi is good.

Then, I have to ask, why Atletico is not so good in league?! I don't know, probably their defense is that bad. On the other hand, nobody praises Villarreal as much. They are good in the league, they have Rossi, Llorente and Nihat up front, with Cazorla in support.

Anyways, I think Reyes would be just as good instead of Maxi. And Simao is really quality for them. I feel, he's rightly ahead of Quaresma in pecking order for Portugal

Villareal have good players all over the park and a good man manager.
Atletico have a great forward line but are poor at the back, with a dodgy manager.

Yiannis · « **Reply #30 on:** January 3, 2009, 03:29:53 AM »

I'll be surprised if he wants to come back at England.I think that if he was not wanted at Atletico,he would be transferred to another Spanish team

cornelius · « **Reply #31 on:** January 7, 2009, 12:24:59 PM »

Quote from: Daranoza on January 2, 2009, 09:38:34 PM

Wasn't a myth Cornelius. He said it himself a few times, that he was missing home. That his family were missing home. He was finding it harder and harder to be away from Spain, especially in his last year with us.

In fact, he said it in an interview for LFCTV quite recently...

Perhaps a six month loan would not be so hard on them. At least there is a time limit for when they would be returning.

Yeah people don't hide the truth for fear of upsetting folk do they?

You'll be telling us next that Rafa never fibs or uses economical truths and that every word he says should be taken on face value as gospel.

GBF · « **Reply #32 on:** January 7, 2009, 12:41:51 PM »

Quote from: cornelius on January 7, 2009, 12:24:59 PM

Yeah people don't hide the truth for fear of upsetting folk do they?

You'll be telling us next that Rafa never fibs or uses economical truths and that every word he says should be taken on face value as gospel.

what's the truth then, Einstein?

Daranoza · « **Reply #33 on:** January 7, 2009, 12:48:27 PM »

Why would he lie about this? What would he achieve from saying that either he or his family missed home? If he was lying and saying "Oh, I was desperate to stay" when he was actually dying to leave I'd understand because that would please us. He didn't. He was honest. He said yeah, it was tough. It got hard for me and the family. I can understand that entirely. Have you ever been away from home for a sustained period? It's hard. Very hard. And, at some point, for many, it just becomes TOO hard.

Are we to believe the people who decided that he wanted to stay and is simply "lying" about it, or the man himself, admitting that the lifestyle in England was too difficult for him to sustain, long term, that he missed his siestas, his culture, his family...missed being able to have something to eat late on when the shops were still open and they're closed, here. It's a completely different lifestyle that he was used to, a much nicer lifestyle than the one we have here. A much nicer climate, too.

Is he lying because his wife was the one that was homesick? It's still true, then, that his family was not settled, if this is the case.

Why is it so hard to believe that he wanted to leave the Utopia of Liverpool to return home to Spain, closer to his family and back in the culture he grew up in?

So, to sum up, he's lying because it doesn't fit with what you believe to be 'the truth'. That's somewhat insecure, don't you think?

cornelius · « **Reply #34 on:** January 7, 2009, 10:54:09 PM »

Quote from: Daranoza on January 7, 2009, 12:48:27 PM

Why would he lie about this?

Lie is a much stronger word than I actually used but the reality is his excuses are a well worn easy cop out for footballers.

But honestly, if he was as homesick as you say then there'd be no chance of him coming back to England so soon, especially to those clubs would there?

Anyway I think you and GBF have made far to much of my comments. I was merely illustrating that most of what is said during transfers is nearly always diplomatic speak.