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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1240 on: January 26, 2009, 09:42:14 PM »
Its going to come down to the offers the tumours receive in a few months time. I think when it comes to the time they will accept an offer with a small profit and drag their ass back to the good old US of A.

Then hopefully under proper custodians we could get back to dealing with things in house and none of this shit being spouted about in the papers.

Here's for hoping........................

I've got this horrible feeling that the Texan will never leave us with just a small profit, he wants to stay and he ain't gonna give up.
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1241 on: January 26, 2009, 09:43:27 PM »
your starting to piss me off with your snide SOS quotes. I assume SOS will just go quietly about their business unlike you.

gonna get shot down now but what really have SOS done not abig pile in all fairness!!

did that lad ever get showing the contract on TIA??
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1242 on: January 26, 2009, 09:50:21 PM »
gonna get shot down now but what really have SOS done not abig pile in all fairness!!

did that lad ever get showing the contract on TIA??

Im not going to deny that I too am getting a little frustrated at the lack of action from SoS, but lets not forget these are all volunteers, and they havent gone claiming credit for things they havent done as was originally insinuated.
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1243 on: January 26, 2009, 09:53:33 PM »
I think Sir john moores family owned 100% of everton and 60% of liverpool right up until his death. His nephew david inherited the liverpool shares and you know what he did with them.
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1244 on: January 26, 2009, 09:54:34 PM »
gonna get shot down now but what really have SOS done not abig pile in all fairness!!

did that lad ever get showing the contract on TIA??

What do you expect them to do? They are doing they're best but they can't do much against a lecherous pair of leverage buy-out merchants really can they. It's a newly formed union and everything takes time but people really expect too much too quicky.
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1245 on: January 26, 2009, 09:57:23 PM »
I think Sir john moores family owned 100% of everton and 60% of liverpool right up until his death. His nephew david inherited the liverpool shares and you know what he did with them.

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1246 on: January 26, 2009, 10:17:12 PM »
What do you expect them to do? They are doing they're best but they can't do much against a lecherous pair of leverage buy-out merchants really can they. It's a newly formed union and everything takes time but people really expect too much too quicky.


Well for one I havent received one spam mail inviting me to sign up form this forum and these things should be happening.
How can it represent the fans if it doesnt reach the fans?

What percentage of fans read any of the forums, a small percentage, I would guess at less than 5%?
Relying on word of mouth and a few local fans will get nowhere.
The internet is an effective tool and I would happily volunteer my time to help to do this.

SOS needs to be seen and heard - simple acitons that require no organisation - balloons was one of the best ideas I saw.
Costs little, easy to do and visually effective.

Trying to get back on topic, in my opinion by the time SOS become a force, G&H will be long gone.



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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1247 on: January 26, 2009, 10:20:53 PM »
gonna get shot down now but what really have SOS done not abig pile in all fairness!!

did that lad ever get showing the contract on TIA??
He has asked two people on there if he can show it, one has basically said you need to ask the owner, so he has sent said documents to the owner and people are waiting to see if he's gt the balls to show it i believe. Maybe one of the mods on here could give an opinion whether it could get a site that published it into trouble.

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1248 on: January 26, 2009, 10:23:50 PM »
I think Sir john moores family owned 100% of everton and 60% of liverpool right up until his death. His nephew david inherited the liverpool shares and you know what he did with them.
i think david moores only ever had 52%of shares in liverpool.and he had some of them before sir john died.
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1249 on: January 26, 2009, 10:40:56 PM »
Moores had 329 shares in 1990, 493 in 1991 before underwriting a share issue in 1992 in which he gained about 2,500 shares.  He then underwrote a 2nd share issue in 1995 where he gained a further 14,000 shares.
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1250 on: January 26, 2009, 10:45:27 PM »
Moores had 329 shares in 1990, 493 in 1991 before underwriting a share issue in 1992 in which he gained about 2,500 shares.  He then underwrote a 2nd share issue in 1995 where he gained a further 14,000 shares.
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1251 on: January 26, 2009, 10:55:55 PM »
Moores had 329 shares in 1990, 493 in 1991 before underwriting a share issue in 1992 in which he gained about 2,500 shares.  He then underwrote a 2nd share issue in 1995 where he gained a further 14,000 shares.

Then in 2007 he sold us down the fuckin river for an extra 8m, c*nt!
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1252 on: January 26, 2009, 11:01:13 PM »
I've got this horrible feeling that the Texan will never leave us with just a small profit, he wants to stay and he ain't gonna give up.

he better get some money quick then otherwise he'll be leaving whether he wants to or not
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1253 on: January 26, 2009, 11:14:16 PM »
i just called the office for the sheik hamad bin khalifa        (i speak arabic and english)the richest man in qatar... who aparently loves sports...      i informed them about the situation on our club and how it can help promote qatar .. they said they would forward my message to the sheiks representatives and get back to me with a reply if there was any intrest..


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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1254 on: January 26, 2009, 11:17:03 PM »
i just called the office for the sheik hamad bin khalifa        (i speak arabic and english)the richest man in qatar... who aparently loves sports...      i informed them about the situation on our club and how it can help promote qatar .. they said they would forward my message to the sheiks representatives and get back to me with a reply if there was any intrest..


fingers crossed  :)

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1255 on: January 26, 2009, 11:19:54 PM »
i just called the office for the sheik hamad bin khalifa        (i speak arabic and english)the richest man in qatar... who aparently loves sports...      i informed them about the situation on our club and how it can help promote qatar .. they said they would forward my message to the sheiks representatives and get back to me with a reply if there was any intrest..


fingers crossed  :)

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1256 on: January 26, 2009, 11:21:27 PM »
okay couple of points

1. still clinging to the hope that the sheikh will come back in at some point - i see people saying that he won't due to the dubai economy etc. but all the same rosy-eyed points we happily made amongst ourselves this time last year still hold good - buying us would be the best advertising for his tourism-dependent little emirate he could ever have

2. good to see the echo and TB putting the boot into the Texan Tumour and his aides, if only more grassroots could read articles like that and realise that we should be doing more to get rid of these scum then maybe we wouldn't still be discusssing this

3. if RBS pull out i think there's not much likelihood of Wachovia or any bank covering the loan  - banks work on similar risk models and often work in partnerships to cover the risk - that's why the lack of interbank lending is such a big thing in the credit crunch - when you mortgage your 100Gs for the house the bank redistributes this risk over 4/5 banks - but the 4/5 banks won't play ball then your initial bank won't give you the 100G - RBS and Wachovia would've worked on similar lines and Wachovia will think that if RBS don't consider it a worthy investment then there's no way that Wachovia's CEO will be putting his head on the line

4. i honestly think we will be sold long before there's any need for a firesale - as has been said elsewhere - there's not much time left for a firesale anyway - and if the yank's negotiating tactics are anything to go by they'll  be looking for 30million for dirk kuyt and a seat on his board - comiing to those sorts of terms with other clubs in a credit crunch before july is just not going to happen

5. as it doesn't appear to have been mentioned in a while i'd just like to remind you all that hicks is a thick c*nt and gillett is a snidey little bastard
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1257 on: January 26, 2009, 11:23:55 PM »
i just called the office for the sheik hamad bin khalifa        (i speak arabic and english)the richest man in qatar... who aparently loves sports...      i informed them about the situation on our club and how it can help promote qatar .. they said they would forward my message to the sheiks representatives and get back to me with a reply if there was any intrest..


fingers crossed  :)

If he doesn't come back to you within 24 hours with a 500 million bid I will be devastated  ;)
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1258 on: January 26, 2009, 11:43:31 PM »
i just called the office for the sheik hamad bin khalifa        (i speak arabic and english)the richest man in qatar... who aparently loves sports...      i informed them about the situation on our club and how it can help promote qatar .. they said they would forward my message to the sheiks representatives and get back to me with a reply if there was any intrest..
fingers crossed  :)

That's tomorrow's newspaper headlines sorted then  ;)
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1259 on: January 27, 2009, 12:18:31 AM »
more bull? or is he for real?

Jan 26 2009 by Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo



Meanwhile, Tom Hicks has again insisted he has no plans to part with his 50% stake in Liverpool, despite holding unsuccessful talks with Kuwaiti billionaire Nasser al Kharafi.

Hicks maintains he is looking to oust George Gillett from Anfield and claims his meetings with al-Kharafi were held to examine ways of buying out his co-owner.

But with al-Kharafi now having walked away from the negotiating table, the Texan will have to hope that one of the other potential investors identified by Merrill Lynch will come to his aid.

Hicks, who declined to comment on the matter when approached by the ECHO, told diners at a Dallas banquet: "Don’t believe everything you read.

"I’m not selling. I’m bringing in a new partner to buy out my current partner."


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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1260 on: January 27, 2009, 12:25:38 AM »
more bull? or is he for real?

Jan 26 2009 by Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo




did TB actually have that as a headline - if not then you should do tony
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1261 on: January 27, 2009, 12:46:20 AM »
more bull? or is he for real?

Jan 26 2009 by Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo



Meanwhile, Tom Hicks has again insisted he has no plans to part with his 50% stake in Liverpool, despite holding unsuccessful talks with Kuwaiti billionaire Nasser al Kharafi.

Hicks maintains he is looking to oust George Gillett from Anfield and claims his meetings with al-Kharafi were held to examine ways of buying out his co-owner.

But with al-Kharafi now having walked away from the negotiating table, the Texan will have to hope that one of the other potential investors identified by Merrill Lynch will come to his aid.

Hicks, who declined to comment on the matter when approached by the ECHO, told diners at a Dallas banquet: "Don’t believe everything you read.

"I’m not selling. I’m bringing in a new partner to buy out my current partner."

No dont think this is bull. Somewhere or somehow in his deluded mind I think that he thinks he can get away with all that has gone on. My one true wish is for Dumb and Dumber to get the Fuck out of OUR club as soon as it can be possible.

As for bringing someone else in it can only be some other dipshit..... who else would do business with him.

How the Fuck can he say he is looking for a new partner to buy Gillett out when Gillett himself says this is not going to happen, besides the fact who would do business with him.

My really honest opinion is that they have had such an incredible let off from us fans it really is not what we are about. As has been said before they only come over when there is a Big Big game on so all the shit that they deserve goes by the by.
I really think that we should forget about the (Team) cause at the end of the day the CLUB is so much more important.

So next Sunday please let them know how we all feel and make it so uncomfortable they wont want to come back.

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1262 on: January 27, 2009, 01:18:23 AM »
more bull? or is he for real?

Jan 26 2009 by Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo



Meanwhile, Tom Hicks has again insisted he has no plans to part with his 50% stake in Liverpool, despite holding unsuccessful talks with Kuwaiti billionaire Nasser al Kharafi.

Hicks maintains he is looking to oust George Gillett from Anfield and claims his meetings with al-Kharafi were held to examine ways of buying out his co-owner.

But with al-Kharafi now having walked away from the negotiating table, the Texan will have to hope that one of the other potential investors identified by Merrill Lynch will come to his aid.

Hicks, who declined to comment on the matter when approached by the ECHO, told diners at a Dallas banquet: "Don’t believe everything you read.

"I’m not selling. I’m bringing in a new partner to buy out my current partner."


Makes fuck all difference. Lets say a wealthy Arab buys GG's 50%, whatever he buys it for will not go to Hicks, nor will it go to the club, it will go to GG.

Thats doesnt change the situation at the club.

If this wealthy Arab then says right, im going to invest £100 million into the club, why would he do that unless Hicks does the same? The wealthy Arab isnt going to subsidise Hicks and Hicks's ability to either invest or borrow any more is questionable (Glory park being one example)

Add to that the following reasonable assumptions:

Everyone knows Hicks is a pain in the ass to work with, he was brought in by GG and has since almost marginalised GG and the relationship has broken.

The previous flirtations with Dubai and Kuwait both of which have so far come to nothing mean hes probably not viewed terribly favourably amoungst other Arab investors.

The asking price is rediculous.

Hes been trying to either buy out GG or bring in new investment for 6 months now with no luck, during which the financial climate continues to deteriorate.

Hes hated by most fans, and has been generally condemned by the media (especially the papers). Being associated with Hicks could well see the same bad press rub of on any other investor through no actions of their own.


Putting all this together I would be amazed if he manages to find a new investor. The clock is ticking and hes running out of options.
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1263 on: January 27, 2009, 01:28:43 AM »
taken from the Belfast telegraph


It is Hicks, of the club's two proprietors, who is privately most positive about Keane and the money laid out for him, though that may have much to do with a desire to position himself as the manager's ally. But neither American believes Benitez should, as he wishes, decide how much to pay for players within the budget allocated. Sunday's visit of Chelsea appears to present an opportunity for discussion on that subject, with Hicks expected on Merseyside for the first time since last April's Champions League quarter-final tie, as well as Gillett.

Hicks' announcement that he would attend the game had given rise to some belief within Anfield that he was planning some kind of announcement about the club's finances, presumably related to discussions which Liverpool have been having with the Kuwaiti billionaire Nasser Al-Kharafi. The fact that the Kharafi Group is building the 60,000-seat Jaber Al-Ahmad International Stadium in Kuwait demonstrates why Liverpool executives had been sent to meet his associates. But Hicks has also dispatched key personnel from the United States to Kuwait and elsewhere in the region to find investors able to provide the capital that will help him reduce the club's debt and build a new stadium.

There is a prospect within weeks of new partners being unveiled in Kop Football (Holdings) – the company that Hicks and Gillett used as the vehicle to buy Liverpool in 2007 – a senior source, unconnected with the various PR agencies Hicks has employed, has now told the Associated Press.

Daniel Agger has echoed his manager's criticism of Liverpool's failure to offer him a new deal. There is much ground to cover, with Agger's salary demands exceeding what Liverpool want to pay and his concern about his lack of first-team starts something Liverpool know they must address. A meeting between Benitez, the club's chief executive, Rick Parry, the player and his agent, Per Steffensen, has been delayed by Benitez's recent illness.
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1264 on: January 27, 2009, 01:52:12 AM »
According to yesterday's Sunday Telegraph, the word is that the loans will not be renewed. This means that potential buyers will make G & H sweat and offer very low buy-out prices because they are running out of options and time. As said above, if advice is that the current price is too high it looks like our friends could well get their fingers run over by one of them thar stagecoaches. Yee haar !

For sure the price is too high in a climate where even good assets have plummeted in value.   I believe the closer we are to D day, it is more likely that valuation by H+G become more realistic.  A lot can happen within the next 6 months.

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1265 on: January 27, 2009, 02:51:59 AM »
He has asked two people on there if he can show it, one has basically said you need to ask the owner, so he has sent said documents to the owner and people are waiting to see if he's gt the balls to show it i believe. Maybe one of the mods on here could give an opinion whether it could get a site that published it into trouble.

What's this about?
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1266 on: January 27, 2009, 02:55:21 AM »
What's this about?

somebody says they have a copy of the Kop Ltd contract between Hicks and Gillette.....

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1267 on: January 27, 2009, 06:00:40 AM »
somebody says they have a copy of the Kop Ltd contract between Hicks and Gillette.....

Cheers. Fuck me that'd be interesting to see. I understand they might not want to post it for privacy reasons but could they not email it about the place??
You are either his son or just a total fuckin wanker who I will meet anytime outside the ground to fight if you have any idea where the ground is yer faggot!

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1268 on: January 27, 2009, 07:43:49 AM »
He has asked two people on there if he can show it, one has basically said you need to ask the owner, so he has sent said documents to the owner and people are waiting to see if he's gt the balls to show it i believe. Maybe one of the mods on here could give an opinion whether it could get a site that published it into trouble.

Well, I aint a mod, but the answer is that:
1.  Publishing the document would be unlikely to get the site a fine, or an order to pay damages.  They might conceivably be ordered to reveal how they got it though.
2.  Publishing an accurate summary of the document (as opposed to a copy of it) would have no legal repercussions.
3.  If someone genuinely has the document, and wants to see it published, then they should forward it to (say) City & Merseyside, the Echo, the Mirror, the Guardian, the BBC.  At least one (if not all) would publish it.  The last 3 would be the best bet, as they would be absolutely certain to fight any court action which demanded that they reveal their sources. 




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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1269 on: January 27, 2009, 07:50:08 AM »
taken from the Belfast telegraph

That's just syndicated from James Lawton in The Independent.  He's a bitter old fool with a history of slagging off Rafa and idolising Wenger.  It includes the description "the tetchy and eternally self-justifying manager Rafa Benitez"

So what is Rafa supposed to do?  Refuse to speak to the press?  Speak to the press merely to agree that they are correct, and that he doesnt have a clue about how to manage a football club?  In other words, the whole article is biased nonsense.



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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1270 on: January 27, 2009, 08:01:06 AM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/liverpool/4349459/Liverpools-crunch-week-as-Tom-Hicks-arrives-in-town.html

The importance of the week is underlined by the expected presence of the club's co-owner, Tom Hicks, who will arrive on Merseyside ahead of Sunday's Premier League match with Chelsea.

Hicks is saddling up to ride to the rescue of manager Rafael Benitez, bearing promises to sort out a new long-term contract to tie him to the club until 2013 which would underline the American's own commitment to Liverpool.

That commitment was seemingly strengthened yesterday when sources at the Royal Bank of Scotland, with whom Hicks and his business partner George Gillett have a £350 million loan due for repayment or refinance in July, suggested the bank were not expecting any movement on the club's ownership until July.

Reports in Texas suggest that Hicks has reaffirmed his desire to remain involved with Liverpool, telling friends in Dallas they "shouldn't believe what they read" about his desire to sell up and that he was instead seeking investors who could buy out Gillett.

Such a deal is unlikely, with sources in the Gulf suggesting that any Arab buyer would want full control. Any hope of a deal with the Kuwaiti Al-Kharafi family seemingly ended when details of talks became public. Gillett, meanwhile, is unwilling to sell up unless Hicks does the same.

No doubt these issues will all be on the agenda when Hicks and Benitez meet, as well as the Spaniard's demand for full control over transfers, the sticking point in his contract talks. So too, possibly, will be Liverpool's stuttering form.

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1271 on: January 27, 2009, 08:04:02 AM »
...manager Rafael Benitez, bearing promises to sort out a new long-term contract to tie him to the club until 2013 .

That's all I care about-have Rafa sign and he can get hit by a runaway elephant or a falling satellite, for all I care.
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1272 on: January 27, 2009, 08:10:37 AM »
Also there is the other side of the coin as well: if current conditions defeat G&H there will probably remain a vocal amen corner for them who will insist that ifithadn'tbeenforthecreditcrunch... i.e that it was just bad luck that the G&H project failed and in another situation it would have worked fine.

Well I think that's wrong: my opposition to G&H's ownership has always been rooted in the nature of their ownership model, rather than their personalities or behaviour (although they've also been very poor as well). An ownership model that isn't backed by hard cash IF AND WHEN NEEDED will always be bad news for a football club and particularly a football club who wants to achieve consistent, ongoing success in every competition.

If the credit crunch hadn't happened G&H's model would have stung us in another way, at another time. It is, and will alwasy remain, a liability that we'd be better off without.

Absolutely right!
When this all goes tits up they'll blame it on the "credit crunch", when the truth is their model was flawed from the start.
The core problem is that they got credit too easily for a daft project, in the same way that the sub-prime sector operated. If they can't finance the current loan without dipping into the transfer kitty then what chance would they have of financing an additional loan?

The club has done as well as could be expected. Well placed in the Premier League, through the Champions League group stages and playing to full houses - so no problem with core revenue. They've had the chance to make the club more "commercial" but that hasn't been the goldmine they hoped. It's been money-grubbing which has alienated the fans more than anything else.
All the credit cruch has done is restore a bit of sanity to the market.

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1273 on: January 27, 2009, 08:16:09 AM »
What did you do that for   We want Sheik Mo  :wave.

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1274 on: January 27, 2009, 08:32:47 AM »
What's Hicks doing at a dinner in Dallas? Isn't he supposed to be here already?

summary of most of these articles: we don't know what's going on so we're rehashing each other's material. We're probably as clued up on RAWK as anyone.

What a fat gobby mouth Hicks is: if he could magic up another investor to buy out Gillett why didn't he do it last summer when conditions were easier? (Sorry, I know we all know that, but the need to insult him was too strong. Going to exit now...feel rant coming on....)
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1275 on: January 27, 2009, 08:35:43 AM »
What's Hicks doing at a dinner in Dallas? Isn't he supposed to be here already?


The dinner in Dallas was on friday he is in Liverpool already.

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1276 on: January 27, 2009, 08:42:43 AM »
The dinner in Dallas was on friday he is in Liverpool already.

Was he at the Everton Game on Sunday ?
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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1277 on: January 27, 2009, 08:52:06 AM »
Was he at the Everton Game on Sunday ?

No I believe fat head flew in yesterday.

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« Reply #1278 on: January 27, 2009, 08:55:07 AM »
No I believe fat head flew in yesterday.

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Re: Liverpool owners granted an extra six months to repay the club's debt
« Reply #1279 on: January 27, 2009, 08:56:39 AM »
What about the other fudge packer is he with him or he flying in later??
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