Topic: Mersey fans rivalry has reached the gutter!

[AndrewLFC_1971]

Everton fans don't really think we're murderers, in fact they know we're not,it's just a way for them to get at us because they haven't got fuck all else going for them and even though united have lorded it over us for a decade or more we still get right up their noses so they sing about us too. These murderers/hillsborough chants weren't around in the late 80s early 90s , it's just as society in general has become shite that all this shite has happened between us and the blues. What happened to the spirit of '89 and the scarves across the park. Fuckin sad.

[Red number seven]

It wasn't bragging about 'Murdering' or anything to do with past gestures.

Everton certainly don't give a flying fuck about them when thousands of people direct the bile in our direction. It's a 'We don't care what you say, so fuck off' thing.

I know. I do understand the irony, and I don't think the people who sang it were taking the piss out of the dead of Heysel for one second. I do get it. I still think it's wrong.

Think about this - next time Kelvin McKenzie's on question time, and someone suggests he apologises for his lies about Liverpool fans, he can turn around and say they are still animals, they still sing about the dead of Heysel. He might be wrong, a liar and a twat, but there is no real right to reply and that's then on the record.

[Liverbird 2010]

Its been getting sung for a few years duno what the uproar is for, if they can give it and cant take tough titty.

Its not our fault they are obsessed, bitter and in our shadow.
That they have no football songs to sing to their own teams and just sing about us.

[BCCC]

Did anyone actively join in with the song who now regrets doing so?

[Red number seven]

Its not our fault they are obsessed, bitter and in our shadow.
That they have no football songs to sing to their own teams and just sing about us.

But we do, so why sing that? Does that not make us just as bitter and pathetic when we can be so much better?

[MichaelA]

I'll tell you what, me and fifty odd of my wall eyed, slack jawed, knuckle dragging, in bred top boys were singing this song on Satdee, and nobody challenged us, not anyone nor no one. All youse whoppers using the anonymity of a message board to condemn this kind of behaviour, how come none of you have the bollocks to come up and ask us to stop singing?

[Liverbird 2010]

But we do, so why sing that? Does that not make us just as bitter and pathetic when we can be so much better?

My mum was at Heysel her own brother called her a murderer a few years later my mum wouldnt even kill a fly.  She was devestated when her own flesh and blood said that to her.

[AndrewLFC_1971]

My mum was at Heysel her own brother called her a murderer a few years later my mum wouldnt even kill a fly.  She was devestated when her own flesh and blood said that to her.

Her brother is a prize twat then.

[Red number seven]

I'll tell you what, me and fifty odd of my wall eyed, slack jawed, knuckle dragging, in bred top boys were singing this song on Satdee, and nobody challenged us, not anyone nor no one. All youse whoppers using the anonymity of a message board to condemn this kind of behaviour, how come none of you have the bollocks to come up and ask us to stop singing?

Because the last time I did that I got bottled on the Ramblas. From behind. Brave boys.

[Shanks1965]

Its been getting sung for a few years duno what the uproar is for, if they can give it and cant take tough titty.

Its not our fault they are obsessed, bitter and in our shadow.
That they have no football songs to sing to their own teams and just sing about us.

There's nothing for them to take though is there? We werent slagging them off we were calling OURSELVES murderers. I reckon they would have been laughing their cocks off at the stupidity of it.

A better piss take would have been to sing a couple of their songs to highlight how shite their support is. THAT would have had more of an impact and given us even more bragging rights for the few months.

[Shanks1965]

I'll tell you what, me and fifty odd of my wall eyed, slack jawed, knuckle dragging, in bred top boys were singing this song on Satdee, and nobody challenged us, not anyone nor no one. All youse whoppers using the anonymity of a message board to condemn this kind of behaviour, how come none of you have the bollocks to come up and ask us to stop singing?

Maybe because you all had bad breath?

[Jockies Car]

Anyone would think that its a new Anthem. If it is heard at anywhere other than Goodison I'll be amazed.

[Red number seven]

There's nothing for them to take though is there? We werent slagging them off we were calling OURSELVES murderers. I reckon they would have been laughing their cocks off at the stupidity of it.

A better piss take would have been to sing a couple of their songs to highlight how shite their support is. THAT would have had more of an impact and given us even more bragging rights for the few months.

That would be quality. Genius, mate. Proper irony. Imagine us singing ZCars in reaction to murderers  when 2-0 up at the shed - they would be frothing at the mouth.

[Rafette]

The point is Wattie that it took two horrendous disasters and the loss of innocent lives to bring it home to us how wrong we were to sing about Munich.  I just hope for your sake you can learn from an internet forum instead.

Voice of sanity there.... this is the loss of people's LIVES being used for gutter chants - whoevers side its on makes no odds. To stoop to their level is wrong- the press didnt pick up on the Evertonians using it against us, only our fans retaliating. We should let them get on with making complete cocks of themselves

[Red number seven]

Anyone would think that its a new Anthem. If it is heard at anywhere other than Goodison I'll be amazed.

If we're winning at OT I am willing to take that bet. Or Chelsea.

[Terry De Niro]

It is at gutter level now and BOTH sides have had a big part to play in it.

It's hard to pinpoint why. People say all sorts of different reasons from Emlyn Hughes to "the peoples club" to Everton winning nothing recently to society to the new generation of fans etc etc. That's not really worth wasting energy on. People should try and change it for the better instead of point scoring.

Yeah, some of our fans are twats and I find the Gerrard stuff embarrassing and don't join in with any of the murderers or Michael Shields crap either. Liverpool fans aren't the happy go lucky little angels I see some people talking about on here though, there's a lot of heads being buried in sand. Songs about Lescott, Carsley's baby etc are no better. Neither is chanting Munich at players with Utd connections or hitting Phil Neville last year.

But I know that most Liverpool fans aren't like that. Most of my family and some of my mates are reds and they're all good people. I'm sure a lot of you can say likewise about blues.

I think the clubs themselves could do a bit more to try and calm the situation down a bit too.

That's a decent post, and the bit I've highlighted is a very good idea, but I fear it will never happen.

Your right about both teams having their fair share of twats, but as I said earlier in the thread, the only time Liverpool fans concentrate on anything Everton is when we're playing you. The same can not be said about the opposite, as no matter what team you are playing, the anti Liverpool shite is heard loud and clear coming from a lot of your fans.

[MichaelA]

Maybe because you all had bad breath?

*tsk* you're missing the irony.

[Red number seven]

My mum was at Heysel her own brother called her a murderer a few years later my mum wouldnt even kill a fly.  She was devestated when her own flesh and blood said that to her.

That makes him a prick and gives your mum all the moral high ground, though. That is what it is like at the match, on a big scale, until we respond in kind.

[Liverbird 2010]

Forget the chant for a minute what must go through Moyes and their players minds, when they score a goal against Chelsea and burst out in song of the babys not yours
In the UEFA cup last season if they scored a goal it was Ohhhhhhh Michael Shields.

Not one single fuckin song about their players or team not one.

Why dont Everton sort that out? Thats not supporting your team thats just being obsessed by the team they share the city with, if I was an Everton player Id go off my head.

[Red number seven]

Forget the chant for a minute what must go through Moyes and their players minds, when they score a goal against Chelsea and burst out in song of the babys not yours
In the UEFA cup last season if they scored a goal it was Ohhhhhhh Michael Shields.

Not one single fuckin song about their players or team not one.

Why dont Everton sort that out? Thats not supporting your team thats just being obsessed by the team they share the city with, if I was an Everton player Id go off my head.

Couldn't give a shit, to be honest. I have far more important things to do than worry about Championship sides.

[BCCC]

Forget the chant for a minute what must go through Moyes and their players minds, when they score a goal against Chelsea and burst out in song of the babys not yours
In the UEFA cup last season if they scored a goal it was Ohhhhhhh Michael Shields.

Not one single fuckin song about their players or team not one.

Why dont Everton sort that out? Thats not supporting your team thats just being obsessed by the team they share the city with, if I was an Everton player Id go off my head.

That's where a serious inferiority complex takes you..

[Fat Scouser]

Well, I tell you what, there was no irony involved on the fery home when a gang of lads were sitting there pissed, laughing about the fat c*nt turning blue.
I love this club. But let's have it right... we have our own shite an all.

[Shanks1965]

*tsk* you're missing the irony.

No I didn't.

[AndrewLFC_1971]

Well, I tell you what, there was no irony involved on the fery home when a gang of lads were sitting there pissed, laughing about the fat c*nt turning blue.
I love this club. But let's have it right... we have our own shite an all.

Is true, how anyone can think we don't have any scum following us is deluded.

[LiverpoolRedRoseFan38]

Been called a murderer by blueshite for years i was at heysel and am fully aware of what happened and who was to blame or part of the blame , but i am no murderer so i just laugh at them and think about how freezing cold they are always being in liverpool's massive gigantic shadow .

[Shanks1965]

Is true, how anyone can think we don't have any scum following us is deluded.

Athens 2006 reminded us of that did it not?

[Hightown Phil]

There's nothing for them to take though is there? We werent slagging them off we were calling OURSELVES murderers. I reckon they would have been laughing their cocks off at the stupidity of it.

If you think that's what was going on there's really no point discussing it.

[Red number seven]

Been called a murderer by blueshite for years i was at heysel and am fully aware of what happened and who was to blame or part of the blame , but i am no murderer so i just laugh at them and think about how freezing cold they are always being in liverpool's massive gigantic shadow .

...is the correct answer...

[Jockies Car]

If we're winning at OT I am willing to take that bet. Or Chelsea.

Your on. OT last season in reaction to the Murders chant we were singing "give us a chance, we'll murder you"

[AndrewLFC_1971]

Athens 2006 reminded us of that did it not?

Yes shanks it did. It was 2007 tho.

[LiverpoolRedRoseFan38]

Athens 2006 reminded us of that did it not?

we all know liverpool has a shite element who follow the reds like 99% of all other clubs , and we all know that liverpool supporters were part of the cause of heysel , But this has nothing to do with everton's ineptness to compete in English football or Europe .

[Fat Scouser]

Athens 2006 reminded us of that did it not?

I was there an all. I bunked into both of them. I get slatted to fuck for it. So be it. We have our own shite just like all other clubs

[FlashingBlade]

Anyone remember Anfield when the Rhys Jones family stood by the side of the pitch?...unity in the city?...pah!...

[FOOT]

I'll tell you what, me and fifty odd of my wall eyed, slack jawed, knuckle dragging, in bred top boys were singing this song on Satdee, and nobody challenged us, not anyone nor no one. All youse whoppers using the anonymity of a message board to condemn this kind of behaviour, how come none of you have the bollocks to come up and ask us to stop singing?

And what would you have done / said if they had? Enter into a serious and well thought out debate of the irony of what you were singing? Or told them to fuck off and called them fucking c*nts / beauts / whoppers / wools / oots / scallies / twats / homs / loser etc?

Maybe the slight chance of getting yer head kicked in or shouted down by fifty odd wall eyed, slack jawed, knuckle dragging, in bred top boys - maybe getting kicked out of the match - maybe dragging the name of the club through the shite as Sky would have loved to show closeups of Liverpool fans scrapping amongst themselves at a derby match live on TV - maybe a life ban / season ticket loss for scrapping at a match put them off?

OK I could be stretching it a bit I admit that, but we have already had 2 sections of the Kop shouting each other down recently for singing certain songs - not something anyone wants to see on a regular basis.

I agree that we are subjected to the most vile chants and gestures at some games, I jut dont agree that this was a justified response.
 

 

[Red number seven]

If you think that's what was going on there's really no point discussing it.

Narr, what was going on was 'call us murderers if you like, we know we're not, we are pissing all over you and you're not going to wind us up with that shitty chant.'

However, it is still making light of a disaster in which people died and is therefore wrong in my opinion. It is doubly wrong since, although I don't really generally care what the media says about us, I would suggest that it is potentially important for the Justice Campaign that we don't get this sort of press. Just a thought.

[wattie]

I was there an all. I bunked into both of them. I get slatted to fuck for it. So be it. We have our own shite just like all other clubs

No we're the greatest fans in the world!! That's why no-mark clubs have been coming to Anfield taking the piss whilst we sit on our arses telling ourselves how great we are.

[CHOPPER]

I already have a Season Ticket and have done for nearly 10 years.

Yours, Snotty Nosed Little Prick.

don't be so down on yourself lad, in another say 14 years or so you may see the error of your ways
hopefully not like me, who's had to witness events close up, to realise the error of mine.

[LiverpoolRedRoseFan38]

Anyone remember Anfield when the Rhys Jones family stood by the side of the pitch?...unity in the city?...pah!...

that show of respect was for Rhys and his family nothing to do with football , football was just the vehicle to express the sorrow and hurt we all felt and feel about that tragedy

[Red number seven]

Your on. OT last season in reaction to the Murders chant we were singing "give us a chance, we'll murder you"

I don't like to mention this, but we weren't winning. If we win there this year, and we don't respond to the inevitable filth with this or something similar, pm me and I'll buy you a pint.

[John C]

And what would you have done / said if they had? Enter into a serious and well thought out debate of the irony of what you were singing? Or told them to fuck off and called them fucking c*nts / beauts / whoppers / wools / oots / scallies / twats / homs / loser etc?

Maybe the slight chance of getting yer head kicked in or shouted down by fifty odd wall eyed, slack jawed, knuckle dragging, in bred top boys - maybe getting kicked out of the match - maybe dragging the name of the club through the shite as Sky would have loved to show closeups of Liverpool fans scrapping amongst themselves at a derby match live on TV - maybe a life ban / season ticket loss for scrapping at a match put them off?

OK I could be stretching it a bit I admit that, but we have already had 2 sections of the Kop shouting each other down recently for singing certain songs - not something anyone wants to see on a regular basis.

I agree that we are subjected to the most vile chants and gestures at some games, I jut dont agree that this was a justified response.

He was taking the piss out of an earlier post I think mate