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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #200 on: September 3, 2008, 10:50:31 AM »
SSN are reporting that Man City put a 50 million bid in for Torres just before the deadline.
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #201 on: September 3, 2008, 10:54:47 AM »
Is this a p.r. exercise by the new owners trying to wind up the other three of the "big four"? If you were really going to buy up all the best players. Messi would be one of the first on the list.

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #202 on: September 3, 2008, 10:58:00 AM »
Idiots.  Do they really believe they can just lure players like Torres, Ronaldo and Fabregas to them.

Good to see the bid for Torres rejected completely out of hand.
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #203 on: September 3, 2008, 11:09:12 AM »
SSN are reporting that Man City put a 50 million bid in for Torres just before the deadline.
The really worrying thing is that you could see our beloved owners taking the money and running.

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #204 on: September 3, 2008, 11:11:54 AM »
The really worrying thing is that you could see our beloved owners taking the money and running.

With any luck,  they'll be gone by the time the January window opens.
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #205 on: September 3, 2008, 11:12:44 AM »
The really worrying thing is that you could see our beloved owners taking the money and running.

And you think Torres would move to man city ?
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #206 on: September 3, 2008, 11:26:52 AM »
And you think Torres would move to man city ?
I didnt think Robinho would either, everybody has his price, unfortunately.

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #207 on: September 3, 2008, 12:17:34 PM »
Problem is even if City don't get any of the top names from Premierhship clubs in the next few windows it will only take them a few years before they have built a team capable of getting champions league positions; they managed to get Robinho in one day, I'm sure they are capable of building a pretty formidable side given a year or 2, and we know that once a club has that status and are offering big money they can then turn the heads of pretty much anyone they want if they offer enough money.

Do you think Gerrard would have stayed with us when Chelsea came knocking if we had been pushed into UEFA cup football for a few years?  :-\

I'm not saying it will be us, but if City can emmulate Chelseas success in the league then one of the other clubs is going to find it very difficult.
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #208 on: September 3, 2008, 12:22:55 PM »
Just seen it then, fucking joke

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #209 on: September 3, 2008, 01:22:41 PM »
Oh for pete's sake. I'm sick of this I really am. Unless Torres is an unhappy chap he'd never move to City. Hicks and Gillet could accept the offer but it doesn't materialise unless the player agrees the move.

Robinho only went because he didn't want to remain at Real. There was less than an hour for Chelsea to up their offer and they didn't. City offered him obscene wages and he jumped at it. Torres took a pay-cut to play for us; he could've gone to Utd or Chelsea but he had no interest in them. It all depends on the player not just the club flashing the cash.

Unless City start winning trophies and the League there is nothing to worry about.

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #210 on: September 3, 2008, 02:06:06 PM »
Fair play to G&H, they turned down 50 million earlier this summer from Chelsea. They're c*nts, but they aren't utter morons.


That quote, saying they're buying 18 30 million players...how many of those players are worth 30 million now, meaning City may be paying 30 million, but any other club could get them for 20 or so.

And how exactly do you keep that many world class players happy?


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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #211 on: September 3, 2008, 02:16:13 PM »
I'll give City's new owners one thing, they are ambitious, apparently in January they will try to sign Ronaldo, Torres, Kaka, Villa and Fabregas.

Or could this just be a PR stunt to get fans creaming themselves with excitement and backing their new owners before they bump up the price of season tickets by 500% next summer?

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #212 on: September 3, 2008, 03:46:48 PM »
I'll give City's new owners one thing, they are ambitious, apparently in January they will try to sign Ronaldo, Torres, Kaka, Villa and Fabregas.

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #213 on: September 3, 2008, 05:22:06 PM »
I didnt think Robinho would either, everybody has his price, unfortunately.

Aye, but he's been agitating for a move all summer (whining about how Chelsea were the only club for him, how it would be a dream to play for Scolari...hmmmmm).  For all his talent I think Real were just glad to see the back of him and as an added bonus it meant that they didn't have to sell him to a Champions League rival.

Torres, as we all know, is very happy at Anfield and is the ultimate professional. There's no way on earth he'd move to Man City.  Same goes for Cesc, who's had the opportunity to move to Real but seems quite happy at Arsenal.

Even Ronaldo, for all his smarm and general twattery, wouldn't move across the city. "Ronaldo has said he wants to play for the biggest club in the world, so we will see in January if he is serious" - the fucking arrogance of it makes me laugh. What have City actually won yet?

I mean for fuck's sake I'd like a threesome with Cheryl Cole and Maria from Coronation Street. The likelihood of it actually happening is very slim indeed.
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #214 on: September 3, 2008, 05:34:27 PM »
I mean for fuck's sake I'd like a threesome with Cheryl Cole and Maria from Coronation Street. The likelihood of it actually happening is very slim indeed.

Offer them 40 million each and I'm sure they'd consider it!

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #215 on: September 3, 2008, 05:34:59 PM »
Take the 50m for Torres, pocket 25m and invest the other 25m where? Watch the team struggle somewhat, perhaps even fail to qualify for CL where you suddenly lose the 20m a year that gives you. How much not playing on the biggest stage in Europe will affect the value of the club when it comes to selling it?

All & all the 50m may look good now but possible consequences may completely feck the club & owners future plans. Now 100m plus bids for Torres & I snap their hand off probably.
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #216 on: September 3, 2008, 05:35:32 PM »
i heard this morning about the £134m bid fore Roanldo.

do these people realise they are going to have to use their money on wages, bills and stuff - not just players.

£135m for him, £50m for him, £25m for him, another £100m for him - fuck off. wait till they see what running a club is all about.

I still can't believe it though

and i haven't been on the internet for a day - does anyone know WTF they didn't even consider bidding for us ???

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #217 on: September 3, 2008, 05:48:26 PM »
The did consider us and Newcastle.



Any player going there now is giving up on Champions League for at least two years. They won't get top four this year, and may do next. So they're looking at least until the 2010-2011 season. Even with the money I'd still hestitate and think about joining them when they'd qualified.

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #218 on: September 3, 2008, 05:53:51 PM »
Yes, and the other point is now other clubs will see them coming.

Stewart Downing suddenly becomes worth 50 million, but only to City, and Torres, well, fuck knows really £150 Million ?

They bid silly amounts for players and they create a rod for their own back.
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #219 on: September 3, 2008, 06:18:50 PM »
i heard this morning about the £134m bid fore Roanldo.

do these people realise they are going to have to use their money on wages, bills and stuff - not just players.

£135m for him, £50m for him, £25m for him, another £100m for him - fuck off. wait till they see what running a club is all about.

I still can't believe it though

and i haven't been on the internet for a day - does anyone know WTF they didn't even consider bidding for us ???

many city like, bit strange

They didn't want to pay for the new stadium apparently. I think people are right when they say that Ronaldo, Torres and Fabregas etc are unlikely to move in the first instance, if at all, but Hughes now has the potential to pay (overpay?) tens of millions for extremely good players without worrying about how successful they are.

Look back at Chelsea's first buys with Roman's money: Duff, Geremi, Makelele, Crespo, Wayne Bridge, Glen Johnson, Joe Cole, Scott Parker and Veron...

...and Mourinho's first buys - the ones that won their first title: Drogba, Kezman, Ferreira, Carvalho, Tiago, Robben & Cech.

The interesting players for me are Crespo and Veron. What that sort of money buys you is insulation from failure. It's often suggested that Benitez has squandered money - buying quantity over quality - but Chelsea (and United) have benefited from being able to buy quality in quantity and off-loading the ones that don't work.

If they are sensible (strange word to use in the circumstances) then City could build a very good team in three or four years, capable of challenging for the title and the Champions League. Whether they'll ignore  good sense and go for a Galactico strategy is another matter entirely.
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #220 on: September 3, 2008, 06:21:02 PM »
They didn't want to pay for the new stadium apparently. I think people are right when they say that Ronaldo, Torres and Fabregas etc are unlikely to move in the first instance, if at all, but Hughes now has the potential to pay (overpay?) tens of millions for extremely good players without worrying about how successful they are.

Look back at Chelsea's first buys with Roman's money: Duff, Geremi, Makelele, Crespo, Wayne Bridge, Glen Johnson, Joe Cole, Scott Parker and Veron...

...and Mourinho's first buys - the ones that won their first title: Drogba, Kezman, Ferreira, Carvalho, Tiago, Robben & Cech.

The interesting players for me are Crespo and Veron. What that sort of money buys you is insulation from failure. It's often suggested that Benitez has squandered money - buying quantity over quality - but Chelsea (and United) have benefited from being able to buy quality in quantity and off-loading the ones that don't work.

If they are sensible (strange word to use in the circumstances) then City could build a very good team in three or four years, capable of challenging for the title and the Champions League. Whether they'll ignore  good sense and go for a Galactico strategy is another matter entirely.

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #221 on: September 3, 2008, 06:48:00 PM »
Man City are not in the Champions League right now.  They haven't won a trophy in ages.

When RA took over Chelsea, they were already becoming more and more established.  Thus, with the lure of Prem football, the Champions League, and a heavy wage packet, players wanted to go to Chelsea.

Even so, some of Chelsea's best dealings have been for the likes of Drogba, Essien, Robben, Cech, etc.  These players were no doubt class, but they had played in weaker leagues.  Chelsea not only offered Prem football but also European football.  As a result, it was an opportunity for these players to make themselves more known by playing in a top league and perhaps more importantly, Europe.  Mourinho utilized his connections to get Ferreira and Carvalho, again from a lesser-known league.

When you talk about huge stars at huge clubs, Chelsea balked at the price for Alves and Robinho, didn't get Kaka or Ronaldihno, didn't get Villa, failed in their bid for Torres, etc.

Chelsea successfully bought Makelele (unhappy at Madrid), Ballack (wanted to leave, on a free), Crespo (loan first), Shevchenko (Roman insisted), Deco (wanted to come due to Scolari, as did Bosingwa).

Chelsea had loads of money, but found out the limitations in attempting to form a "World XI."

These Man City owners seem extremely naive at the moment.  They want:
1. Berbatov (always going to the Mancs)
2. Ronaldo (at Mancs, want to go to Madrid)
3. Torres (very happy at Anfield and grateful for Liverpool)
4. Fabregas (very happy at Arsenal)

What makes Man City so special?  They got Robinho, but we all knew he was extremely unhappy and dissatisfied with Real Madrid and ended up with 160k+ wages!

With the cash, Man City would be better off stocking up on talent such as Hamsik, Huntelaar, Pandev, one of the talented Liege players, etc.  These players can blossom in the Prem and become world class players.  They would also be more open to a move as it would take them to the Prem, the best league in the world right now and are not going to demand CL football as a minimum requirement.  They would see it as an opportunity to grow along with the club, something that the stars of today don't want as they want to be at the biggest clubs right now.

So if all this talk isn't PR, and that the Champions League-less Man City are indeed targeting the biggest names from the biggest clubs, then the owners are indeed seriously deluded.

The talking is done on the pitch.  We'll see what Man City has to offer the rest of this year and next year.  The fact that they are trying to crowd the attack and not finding a replacement for someone like Corluka shows that while this team can become a force, it can also become massive underachievers.
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #222 on: September 3, 2008, 06:58:48 PM »
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Dont you think Messi and Kaka would be more "strong robust and flexible" than Alonso and Kuyt for example?


It depends on how they'd fit into the rest of the team, and into Premiership style football. The way this Arab guy is talking, he's not building a Premiership team, he's building a Pro Evolution team.

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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #223 on: September 3, 2008, 09:08:44 PM »

...and Mourinho's first buys - the ones that won their first title: Drogba, Kezman, Ferreira, Carvalho, Tiago, Robben & Cech.


The deals for both Cech and Robben were agreed by Claudio Ranieri.
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« Reply #224 on: September 3, 2008, 09:10:41 PM »
Does he know the offside rule?
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« Reply #225 on: September 3, 2008, 11:57:55 PM »
The way this Arab guy is talking, he's not building a Premier League team, he's building a Pro Evolution team.

I don't favour Galacticos policies.


I'm interested to see which players go to City next season if they finish outside of 4th or say don't win the UEFA Cup. If he wants success, he has to build a team before thinking that all these world-class footballers will just jump ship to the Eastlands because he can afford to have them.

This guy who owns City I feel wants to make them into Real Madrid of the galacticos era. The players he wants I feel won't come straight away but if he manages to make City into strong contenders in just about everything, then some players may consider playing for them.
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Re: Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas (add name here) next for City
« Reply #226 on: September 4, 2008, 12:34:36 AM »
The deals for both Cech and Robben were agreed by Claudio Ranieri.

I know but they played in Mourinho's first year.
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