Topic: Youngsters kicked out of Emirates for being "Scousers"

[FlashingBlade]

People with rent arrears were promised jobs on The Skem industrial estate and their rent arrears would be wiped out if they moved there. Mostly scruffs moved. I know, loads of me mates disappeared into that black hole.

a joke right?.....your talking about the sort of thing that happened 30  odd years ago..other wise your talking through your fat scouse arse!!!!!

[kavah]

Terrible, calling them scousers when they're from Skem.

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[Shanks1965]

Nothing wrong if you was. My uncle tells about how he once got compo from jumping in the back of a taxi when it crashed, and telling the driver that they'd go halves on the compo (theyd get more).

It actually worked.

Credit to him for thinking fast, though

Yeah good on him for helping to put everyone else's insurance premiums up. Tell him he owe's me a pint (or two).

[The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society]

Liverpool postcode L1 to L30 (or whatever it goes too) Its liverpool, whereas Runcorn and Birkenhead fall under another postcode, Bootle, where i'm from, has a liverpool postcode. But falls under sefton council, which, i still classed as liverpool.

When will people learn the L post code means your mail is sorted by Liverpool sorting office, the CH post code means our mail is sorted at Chester sorting office, nothing more nothing less. We used to be L but now we're CH we've never been part of Liverpool or Chester. We are Merseyside and are very proud to be but we are not Liverpool although I personally have great affection for the city.

[carraggeriise]

Current climate of football fans it just doesnt suprise me atall.

Rivalry in football is getting really unsavoury now

Weird thing is I thought better of Arsenal. That'll teach me

[Matts]

GEt them tickets to Anfield, seat the smack between Arse supporters. Then chuck the Arse supporters out. Karma is a bitch after all!!!!!!!!

Absolutely ridiculous

[redbyrdz]

always thought that when you're a guest of UEFA, you'd get tickets for the corporate seats, or somewhere close by... defo not in the hardcore home or away blocks...

the stewards fucked up big time, too, can't believe they couldn't find other seats for them kids, if it was really really that crowded, why not ask some arse supporters to swap seats?

and those in here saying the kids shouldn't have celebrated the goal, wtf? how can you not celebrate when you see your team score?

[Daranoza]

Misleading title, really. They were kicked out for celebrating an opposition goal, not for being scousers, same way they'd have been kicked out if they were mancs, brums or c h a vs

Horrible thing to do, since they were only kids, but it wasn't 'for being scousers' really.

[Rik]

Gotta be honest and say I'm a Gooner before I post.   

Come on guys, this story has clearly been sensationalised tenfold. And let's not turn this into a Scouce thing, as someone else said, it's an opposition fan thing. Clearly a UEFA f*** up.

And don't be totally biased. Are you honestly saying that if a team of cockney 15 year old Gooners (or Gooners from Hertfordshire, whatever) started going mad on the Kop on Tuesday night if we were to score then there wouldn't be anything said? Pat on the back and a "fair play mate" Come on. And although you're probably right about there being designated seats available, there certainly wouldn't be for about 20 people together, or even two or three groups to sit seperately. At Emirates or Anfield.

I don't particularly want to defend the stewards though - most of them are c****! But it's not unreasonable to remove people - kids or adults - if they could potentially incite something or be unsafe themselves.

And regarding these threats and the abuse - I highly doubt the article paints a true picture there. I know where UEFA's tickets are allocated - in the upper tier above the away section, the opposite side of the ground to anything that resembles a "hard-core element" in the lower tier. And although passionate, you lot know as well as I do we're tame and reserved (hence the quietness!) so I highly highly doubt anyone other than literally one or two c*nts mentioned Michael Shields or Heysal. All blown out of proportion!

I took two Liverpool supporters on Wednesday and two others for the league game last year, so I have no problem with opposition fans in the Arsenal end to be honest. But you've gotta remember many do - at Arsenal and vice-versa - so you've got to be respectful. Granted these were mostly teenagers with 3 adults but you've got to be reasonable too, even if they were entitled to their tickets through UEFA (who's fault this clearly is).

No need to fuel the fire for Tuesday night, it's hot enough already! 

[minusone]

UEFA - The new incarnation of the muppet show.

[El_Nino_9]

Beat the c*nts - then chuck em all out, Wenger, players, fans, the lot!!

[El_Nino_9]

I don't particularly want to defend the stewards though - most of them are c****! But it's not unreasonable to remove people - kids or adults - if they could potentially incite something or be unsafe themselves.

if thats the case, then why not hurl out the prawn eaters in suits who were lobbing abuse at KIDS, and dissing a poor lad stuck in prison thousands of mles away who they dont even know??

Where does fair come into that??

In principle I agree with what you're saying, and it IS a UEFA cock up. But did UEFA hold a gun to the head of those people and say "hurl abuse at them"? Nah.

[Curva Nord '77]

Gotta be honest and say I'm a Gooner before I post.   



No need to fuel the fire for Tuesday night, it's hot enough already! 

You are right there. Those visiting "gooners" will get a first-hand experience of Anfield on a CL night.

We already owe you for '89 and we also owe you for the shite Blind Wenger came out with after our CL win.

These were just kids. On the trip of a lifetime and they were abused by a load of arsenal fuckwits.

You may get through on Tuesday but by fuck it won't be for the want of trying.

[Rik]

Like I said, I think it's extremely unlikely that this abuse was as bad as the article is making out. It's really poor journalism from an obvious angle, highlighted by the fact that the journo choose to go down the victimised Scoucer line when it had nothing to do with where they come from, but purely the fact that the majority of the kids were oppoistion supporters. It was said by someone in the topic about the fiasco of getting into the stadium on Wednesday that Liverpool fans pride themselves of being able to see through media spin.

No doubt there was abuse, but I won't believe for a second that a whole group of Gooners wouldn't get abuse if they jumped up and down if Arsenal were to score on Tuesday. One guy on the first page of this topic said it would be on the 10o'clock news if this had been the case. For that reason it's a bit hypocritical, though I'm not saying that any abuse is right.

And I agree, it's not fair on the kids at all. I worked in the membership and travel department (slash Junior Gunners department) at Arsenal upon leaving college until a couple of months ago, so I'm quite sure that if the parents were to make the people the that department aware then they would go out of their way to invite them to the next Arsenal Liverpool game in the family enclosue (they'd still get a little abuse there, but not as bad). I hope Uefa sort this out by getting them tickets for Tuesday, but of course they won't. Liverpool have no obligation to do anything, but it'd be class if they did.

[IloveGuinness17]

A cock up by either Arsenal or Uefa. Probably both. Even shittier that adults are verbally abusing kids who just came to watch a football match.

[ashy9]

Look this is not really surprising if you look at what opposition fans are like with each other now, still its ridiculous for grown men to shout at kids and uefa have to take responsibility for not getting them better seats. But then is anyone shocked that uefa have fucked up again?? Also reckon that if people celebrated an arse goal in the kop on tues they'd get a load of stick so a little perspective please people!! Lets let em see what an atmosphere is really like on tuesday night!

[Fat Scouser]

a joke right?.....your talking about the sort of thing that happened 30  odd years ago..other wise your talking through your fat scouse arse!!!!!

I often talk out of my fat scouse arse sir. But not on this occasion. It's completely true and I know as we were one of the family of scruffs that got the offer.

[Fat Scouser]

Gotta be honest and say I'm a Gooner before I post.  

Come on guys, this story has clearly been sensationalised tenfold. And let's not turn this into a Scouce thing, as someone else said, it's an opposition fan thing. Clearly a UEFA f*** up.

And don't be totally biased. Are you honestly saying that if a team of cockney 15 year old Gooners (or Gooners from Hertfordshire, whatever) started going mad on the Kop on Tuesday night if we were to score then there wouldn't be anything said? Pat on the back and a "fair play mate" Come on. And although you're probably right about there being designated seats available, there certainly wouldn't be for about 20 people together, or even two or three groups to sit seperately. At Emirates or Anfield.

I don't particularly want to defend the stewards though - most of them are c****! But it's not unreasonable to remove people - kids or adults - if they could potentially incite something or be unsafe themselves.

And regarding these threats and the abuse - I highly doubt the article paints a true picture there. I know where UEFA's tickets are allocated - in the upper tier above the away section, the opposite side of the ground to anything that resembles a "hard-core element" in the lower tier. And although passionate, you lot know as well as I do we're tame and reserved (hence the quietness!) so I highly highly doubt anyone other than literally one or two c*nts mentioned Michael Shields or Heysal. All blown out of proportion!

I took two Liverpool supporters on Wednesday and two others for the league game last year, so I have no problem with opposition fans in the Arsenal end to be honest. But you've gotta remember many do - at Arsenal and vice-versa - so you've got to be respectful. Granted these were mostly teenagers with 3 adults but you've got to be reasonable too, even if they were entitled to their tickets through UEFA (who's fault this clearly is).

No need to fuel the fire for Tuesday night, it's hot enough already! 

That's all very nice and well lad. But I don't see how a small article in a tiny local newspaper is "sensationalising this thing ten fold."
You seem a decent fella, so you must know that had this been the other way around then you would have seen ten fold sensationalising and more.
And I know you're only being logical about it. But when you've had 30 years of media abuse, hatred, lies and bile pointed at you personally, your family and friends, all the people you love, and even your forefathers - then you can tell me it's not a "Scouse thing."

Defend your club by all means lad. But don't tell me how to walk in me own shoes.

[SallyCinnamon]

if thats the case, then why not hurl out the prawn eaters in suits who were lobbing abuse at KIDS, and dissing a poor lad stuck in prison thousands of mles away who they dont even know??

Where does fair come into that??

In principle I agree with what you're saying, and it IS a UEFA cock up. But did UEFA hold a gun to the head of those people and say "hurl abuse at them"? Nah.

Just had to highlight that...

[torres1973]

The amazing gunners and there shithouse fans i hope we kill them on the field of play.

[JimmyGrunt]

I went to Skem in a rounabout way (locals will get it).

hahhaaha

yeah...been through more near side front tyres than qwik fit

[James B]

That's fucking disgraceful.

[Maggie May]

That's all very nice and well lad. But I don't see how a small article in a tiny local newspaper is "sensationalising this thing ten fold."
You seem a decent fella, so you must know that had this been the other way around then you would have seen ten fold sensationalising and more.
And I know you're only being logical about it. But when you've had 30 years of media abuse, hatred, lies and bile pointed at you personally, your family and friends, all the people you love, and even your forefathers - then you can tell me it's not a "Scouse thing."

Defend your club by all means lad. But don't tell me how to walk in me own shoes.

Quite right too.  I checked and there was no mention of anything in the London Evening Standard nor the two "freebies" - and that includes the bedlam at the turnstiles.

[PETERBEARDSLEY]

That's all very nice and well lad. But I don't see how a small article in a tiny local newspaper is "sensationalising this thing ten fold."
You seem a decent fella, so you must know that had this been the other way around then you would have seen ten fold sensationalising and more.
And I know you're only being logical about it. But when you've had 30 years of media abuse, hatred, lies and bile pointed at you personally, your family and friends, all the people you love, and even your forefathers - then you can tell me it's not a "Scouse thing."

Defend your club by all means lad. But don't tell me how to walk in me own shoes.

excellent post

[5BigCups]

I went to Skem in a rounabout way (locals will get it).

it drives me round about the wall...

[Djibriliant]

Would be nice to see the club arrange something for them for the home leg

[Tom-D]

Terrible just read it in the echo an it says that arsenal fans were shouting stuff about hillsbrough and Michael shields at them

[GeeFJay]

out of order that surely they should of been in or near our end?

Terrible, calling them scousers when they're from Skem.

Where's Skem? my mate met a well fit bit of stuff from there when we came up for the Milan game but i couldn't find the place on me map

[Shanks1965]

out of order that surely they should of been in or near our end?

Where's Skem? my mate met a well fit bit of stuff from there when we came up for the Milan game but i couldn't find the place on me map

You sound like the school kid we had in work (in Manchester) a few years back. I showed her a big map of the UK on the wall and asked her if she new were Liverpool was. She didnt have a clue.

You are kidding though... right?

[Waterloo Phil]

OOT'ers what u expect

[frosty]

would be great to see them celebrate our semi final qualification live at Anfield

[mach3ucf]

Gooner stewards suck!

[JMarsh]

They weren't kicked out for being scousers, they were kicked out for voicing support for the opposing team to what section of the crowd they sat in. Stewards and police are instructed to eject anyone who does so, or they themselves face disciplinary action for not doing their job properly.

Alas they should've used common sense and realised that a bunch of kids, so long as they behave properly, are not going to incite the crowd and start a ruck. But since when do football and common sense ever go hand in hand, on the pitch or off it?

Just thought I'd say that without reading what is probably 4 boring pages in this thread of "they only hate us coz we're scouse" v "fackin satharn softies" ballsackary.

Peace.

[GeeFJay]

You are kidding though... right?

it was serious question if i'd known the reaction i wouldn't of bothered 

so is skem slang for Skelmersdale?
If not for christ sake just educate me, that night he met her i was with an ex local and he'd never heard of skem??

[Espresso Bar]

There must be surveillance cameras all over the place.

Those 'hard men' in suits should be named and shamed.

[BIGdavalad]

Of course, a bunch of 15 year old Arsenal fans in the middle of the Kop would be greeted with a hearty handshake and would be congratulated or comiserated equally, no matter what the result at the end. Wouldn't they?

[5BigCups]

out of order that surely they should of been in or near our end?

Where's Skem? my mate met a well fit bit of stuff from there when we came up for the Milan game but i couldn't find the place on me map

skelmersdale is right by wigan

[CHOPPER]

Of course, a bunch of 15 year old Arsenal fans in the middle of the Kop would be greeted with a hearty handshake and would be congratulated or comiserated equally, no matter what the result at the end. Wouldn't they?

And IF it did happen would ye step in to stop  men bullying boys ?
I would and I reckon many like me would
were not talking mobs of newcastle or mancs on the Kop who got a knuckle
these are young kids

[inky2]

We are Merseyside and are very proud to be but we are not Liverpool although I personally have great affection for the city.

ooooh, get 'er                                       

[inky2]

Of course, a bunch of 15 year old Arsenal fans in the middle of the Kop would be greeted with a hearty handshake and would be congratulated or comiserated equally, no matter what the result at the end. Wouldn't they?

   god' there's always someone who wants to be reasonable