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Cruiser · « **Reply #120 on:** March 21, 2008, 02:42:42 PM »

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Welsh fans following their team 4 years ago were shot at by Russian soldiers when they attempted to unfurl their flag for photographs in Red Square.

Those Russians are fuckin crazy.

What were UEFA thinking when they chose this venue?

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #121 on:** March 21, 2008, 03:30:51 PM »

Quote from: Cruiser on March 21, 2008, 02:42:42 PM

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Welsh fans following their team 4 years ago were shot at by Russian soldiers when they attempted to unfurl their flag for photographs in Red Square.
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Those Russians are fuckin crazy.

What were UEFA thinking when they chose this venue?

I find that fucking hard to believe. More like a passing Lada backfired and Dai from Swansea shat himself.

SwedenRed · « **Reply #122 on:** March 21, 2008, 07:00:45 PM »

Quote from: Veinticinco de Mayo on March 21, 2008, 03:30:51 PM

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I find that fucking hard to believe. More like a passing Lada backfired and Dai from Swansea shat himself.

ATEAMOFCARRAGHERS · « **Reply #123 on:** March 24, 2008, 11:09:57 AM »

amen to that, 5 or 6 stadiums (wembley, allainze, stade de france, nou camp, hampden, munichs oylimpic stadium. also each finalist could take there own police force with them to give extra security, to work along side local bizzies.

Quote from: marko on March 19, 2008, 02:13:44 PM

i don't accept it!

should be rotating between max 5-6 grounds that are capable of taking it, in cities that can handle it and can be easily reached from most of europe.

Pata · « **Reply #124 on:** March 24, 2008, 04:25:40 PM »

OK, as I mentioned in a couple of other threads:
1. There is no way UEFA can enforce the "must have ticket" threat - it's bullsh*t.
2. To save the hassle with the paperwork, go via an "agency" - you pay 30-40 quid extra on top of the 45-quid visa fee but it's worth it but you'll probably have to do this in ADVANCE, i.e. before the semi-final outcome is known.
3. In case of an English team making it to the final, as I mentioned to some people in Milan, the only really viable way of the Russian consular services dealing with a glut of visa applications would probably be to prioritise travel firms arranging organised trips at the expense of independent travellers as bulk applications are obviously easier to process.

Mart Le Taxi · « **Reply #125 on:** March 25, 2008, 07:01:00 PM »

Quote from: Veinticinco de Mayo on March 21, 2008, 03:30:51 PM

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Those Russians are fuckin crazy.

What were UEFA thinking when they chose this venue?

I find that fucking hard to believe. More like a passing Lada backfired and Dai from Swansea shat himself.

In Moscow more than 4 people with a flag is a political demonstration so it wouldn't be a surprise if they did get heavy.

Steve_M · « **Reply #126 on:** March 26, 2008, 09:01:47 AM »

I don't like contributing scare stories to a thread, but I have to say that Moscow is the one place where I have yet to hear a good word about it from any fans who have been there.

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #127 on:** March 26, 2008, 09:11:00 AM »

Quote from: Mart Le Taxi on March 25, 2008, 07:01:00 PM

In Moscow more than 4 people with a flag is a political demonstration so it wouldn't be a surprise if they did get heavy.

There's a huge difference between getting heavy and firing live ammo though.

And to Steve M, I saw us play Spartak a few years back and had a fantastic time in Moscow. We were harrassed by the Russian police only once - and that was because they wanted to swap scarves.

Steve_M · « **Reply #128 on:** March 26, 2008, 12:14:15 PM »

Quote from: Veinticinco de Mayo on March 26, 2008, 09:11:00 AM

And to Steve M, I saw us play Spartak a few years back and had a fantastic time in Moscow. We were harrassed by the Russian police only once - and that was because they wanted to swap scarves.

You're the first positive one then.

Seriously, it's a place I've always wanted to visit (that and St.Petersburg) and I had already looked into visas,etc unlinked to any footie games. However it does come across as a place where they really couldn't care less about accommodating tourists and don't sound as if they would exactly go out of their way to be helpful.

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #129 on:** March 26, 2008, 12:26:15 PM »

Quote from: Steve_M on March 26, 2008, 12:14:15 PM

You're the first positive one then.

Seriously, it's a place I've always wanted to visit (that and St.Petersburg) and I had already looked into visas,etc unlinked to any footie games. However it does come across as a place where they really couldn't care less about accommodating tourists and don't sound as if they would exactly go out of their way to be helpful.

I would seriously recommend visiting both. St Petersburg in particular is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever visited. I've been to Russia 3 or 4 times in the last few years, independently each time and never had any problems at all.

In fact I've found the people, if not the officialdom, really helpful and spectacularly tolerant of my assaults on their mother tongue.

Pata · « **Reply #130 on:** March 26, 2008, 01:31:12 PM »

I think Veinticinco de Mayo makes a very good point - do not confuse the attitudes of Russian bureaucracy (who delight in making life difficult for EVERYONE) with those of ordinary Russians.

Hmmm... just checked the footy calendar as I hoped to catch a Spartak match out there as well but the Russian footy season is breaking up for Euro2008 on 16 May. Bum!

If we do make it to Moscow, I will try to set up a footy match against Spartak fans the night before the final, after which we'll hopefully be in a position to get bevvied at their supporters' bar.

GeeFJay · « **Reply #131 on:** March 27, 2008, 08:19:47 AM »

Quote from: Pata on March 26, 2008, 01:31:12 PM

I think Veinticinco de Mayo makes a very good point - do not confuse the attitudes of Russian bureaucracy (who delight in making life difficult for EVERYONE) with those of ordinary Russians.

Hmmm... just checked the footy calendar as I hoped to catch a Spartak match out there as well but the Russian footy season is breaking up for Euro2008 on 16 May. Bum!

If we do make it to Moscow, I will try to set up a footy match against Spartak fans the night before the final, after which we'll hopefully be in a position to get bevvied at their supporters' bar.

Sounds good mate, i'd be there for that again!

Mart Le Taxi · « **Reply #132 on:** March 27, 2008, 12:21:34 PM »

Quote from: Pata on March 26, 2008, 01:31:12 PM

I think Veinticinco de Mayo makes a very good point - do not confuse the attitudes of Russian bureaucracy (who delight in making life difficult for EVERYONE) with those of ordinary Russians.

Hmmm... just checked the footy calendar as I hoped to catch a Spartak match out there as well but the Russian footy season is breaking up for Euro2008 on 16 May. Bum!

If we do make it to Moscow, I will try to set up a footy match against Spartak fans the night before the final, after which we'll hopefully be in a position to get bevvied at their supporters' bar.

I must agree. I work/ed a lot with some people from Moscow and have looked after a few groups from a particular office when the have done familiarisation trips to the UK. Lovely people.The first 6 texts I got in Istanbul were from the Muscovites.

Consequently really looking forward to going as they have promised to take me under their wings and also been offered somewhere to stay.

Still a little wary though.......

scoreinaminute · « **Reply #133 on:** March 27, 2008, 02:37:21 PM »

Quote from: Mart Le Taxi on March 27, 2008, 12:21:34 PM

I must agree. I work/ed a lot with some people from Moscow and have looked after a few groups from a particular office when the have done familiarisation trips to the UK. Lovely people.The first 6 texts I got in Istanbul were from the Muscovites.

Consequently really looking forward to going as they have promised to take me under their wings and also been offered somewhere to stay.

Still a little wary though.......

Lets not get carried away lads, we've gotta win some tough tough games before we can say 'we're going', but I hope so too

indian magic · « **Reply #134 on:** March 28, 2008, 06:57:53 PM »

Ross kemps series on Gangs............... Moscow... neo-nazis...... take a look at the following clip............
forward to 1 min 50 secs in to the clip......... quite vicious, ruthless............ certainly majkes me fearful if we get to Moscow for the final................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rra6R8RUwy8

SwedenRed · « **Reply #135 on:** March 28, 2008, 07:06:53 PM »

Quote from: indian magic on March 28, 2008, 06:57:53 PM

Ross kemps series on Gangs............... Moscow... neo-nazis...... take a look at the following clip............
forward to 1 min 50 secs in to the clip......... quite vicious, ruthless............ certainly majkes me fearful if we get to Moscow for the final................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rra6R8RUwy8

One look at me and they will run a mile.

S24 LFC · « **Reply #136 on:** March 28, 2008, 07:12:03 PM »

Quote from: indian magic on March 28, 2008, 06:57:53 PM

Ross kemps series on Gangs............... Moscow... neo-nazis...... take a look at the following clip............
forward to 1 min 50 secs in to the clip......... quite vicious, ruthless............ certainly majkes me fearful if we get to Moscow for the final................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rra6R8RUwy8

thats nothin.....
http://www.youtube.com/v/pp0oJ6HIolY&hl=en

GeeFJay · « **Reply #137 on:** March 29, 2008, 04:32:09 AM »

Quote from: indian magic on March 28, 2008, 06:57:53 PM

Ross kemps series on Gangs............... Moscow... neo-nazis...... take a look at the following clip............
forward to 1 min 50 secs in to the clip......... quite vicious, ruthless............ certainly majkes me fearful if we get to Moscow for the final................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rra6R8RUwy8

I'll be ok, i'll be a skinhead over there if we make it after a shave on the tuesday!

wackyraces · « **Reply #138 on:** March 31, 2008, 01:15:17 PM »

Well I entered lottery and I just checked my credit card online and im minus 360 euro "ucf champs league final moscow".....no email yet though.

willss · « **Reply #139 on:** March 31, 2008, 03:51:47 PM »

Quote from: wackyraces on March 31, 2008, 01:15:17 PM

Well I entered lottery and I just checked my credit card online and im minus 360 euro "ucf champs league final moscow".....no email yet though.

When I was succesful in 2005 I never received an email!!

merseypride · « **Reply #140 on:** March 31, 2008, 06:04:43 PM »

Quote from: willss on March 31, 2008, 03:51:47 PM

When I was succesful in 2005 I never received an email!!

I have been charged 310 EUros on my credit card. UCLF Moscow 08

I emailed them and they confirmed that I was succesful but emails will be sent on 2nd april!!