Author Topic: DIC speak (Read 245091 times)

redprodigal · « **Reply #1240 on:** March 5, 2008, 06:27:42 PM »

Quote from: rossipersempre on March 5, 2008, 04:18:07 PM

I meant the Arsenal, Bitters, Soton stuff. Who cares? People in the know? In Dubai?

And another thing...."Let's wait and see if my contact is as good as he thinks." Since when does a source feel the need to rationalise or big up his insider knowledge? When he's talking out of his orifice that's when.

No need for that Rossipersempre, I have never posted anything like this before. I'm not trying to "big up my insider knowledge" at all. The person I'm talking about doesn't give a shit if he's regarded a good contact or not and neither do I. He doesn't evern know I'm a member of a forum. He was just going about his everyday work in Dubai which involves PR and he has been involved with some people today who are connected with Premier League football (obviously I can't name names as I'm sure even you understand). I've been asking him to let me know if he has heard anything new about our deal and he confirmed that now it is out in the open we would probably hear everything he does. However he informed me of some other news that I thought may be of interest to some of us so I posted it. I'm not one of those members who try to bullshit people into thinking that I have some super mole who knows what is going on inside DIC so stick your fcuking comments up your orifice you obnoxious knob.

redprodigal · « **Reply #1241 on:** March 5, 2008, 06:33:32 PM »

Quote from: coffeehead on March 5, 2008, 04:47:15 PM

You're being a bit harsh there. The poster is simply saying that his 'source' told him these things. If they turn out to be true it will be an indication of the source's veracity which could be useful as it is a Dubai-based source and if things go to plan, we may well be in the market for Dubai-based information regularly for years to come.

Thanks Coffeehead, that's exactly what I meant.

rossipersiempre · « **Reply #1242 on:** March 5, 2008, 06:40:08 PM »

Quote from: redprodigal on March 5, 2008, 06:27:42 PM

No need for that Rossipersempre, I have never posted anything like this before. I'm not trying to "big up my insider knowledge" at all. The person I'm talking about doesn't give a shit if he's regarded a good contact or not and neither do I. He doesn't evern know I'm a member of a forum. He was just going about his everyday work in Dubai which involves PR and he has been involved with some people today who are connected with Premier League football. I've been asking him to let me know if he has heard anything new about our deal and he confirmed that now it is out in the open we would probably hear everything he does. However he informed me of some other news that I thought may be of interest to some of us so I posted it. I'm not one of those members who try to bullshit people into thinking that I have some super mole who knows what is going on inside DIC so stick your fcuking comments up your orifice you obnoxious knob.

Well I was about to apologise but reading your last line makes me think 'nice personal abuse there, why bother'.

What I will say is that I regret the snappy tone in my post, ok. Guess I read between the lines of your post - as you say there have been a lot of 'super moles' on here recently and people's tempers are a bit frayed. I doubt anyone's interested in Arsenal/Everton/Soton takeover rumours at all never mind right now. Also that comment from you "let's see if he's as good as he thinks" suggests something otherwise to me.

redprodigal · « **Reply #1243 on:** March 5, 2008, 06:47:20 PM »

Quote from: rossipersempre on March 5, 2008, 06:40:08 PM

Well I was about to apologise but reading your last line makes me think 'nice personal abuse there, why bother'.

What I will say is that I regret the snappy tone in my post, ok. Guess I read between the lines of your post - as you say there have been a lot of 'super moles' on here recently and people's tempers are a bit frayed. I doubt anyone's interested in Arsenal/Everton/Soton takeover rumours at all never mind right now. Also that comment from you "let's see if he's as good as he thinks" suggests something otherwise to me.

Fair enough, I apologise for the last sentence. I know what you mean by super moles, that's why I am very cautious when posting something like this. There's nothing worse than reading all this stuff from supposedly "people in the know" and then for it to come to nothing.
I realise that we're not interested in Arsenal or the Bitters at the moment but I was hoping that my mate could be useful regarding any news from Dubai in the near future if things end up as most of us hope they do.

Uncle Ronnie · « **Reply #1244 on:** March 5, 2008, 07:18:01 PM »

Quote from: rossipersempre on March 5, 2008, 05:23:32 PM

I also find his comments re. English values somewhat ironic given that his first team and reserve squad is the Internazionale of the Premier League.

Think you're being a bit harsh there mate. Sure their team is mainly full of foreign players but Materazzi is a main stay in their first team, and he's Italian

Stussy · « **Reply #1245 on:** March 5, 2008, 07:30:26 PM »

Quote from: rossipersempre on March 5, 2008, 05:23:32 PM

I also find his comments re. English values somewhat ironic given that his first team and reserve squad is the Internazionale of the Premier League. also a lot of guff spouted about his amazing thrift shop buys who he turns into world beaters, yet fails to acknowledge how he spent over £10m on a teenager who has repeatedly shown he cannot cut the mustard.

Don't get me wrong, I envy Arsenal for what they've put in place there, but I do not admire them.

That may well be but at least he understands how important it is for the owners of a club to be rooted in the traditions and values of the club so that there is always stability and continuity and respect for what it means and what it is all about. We used to field teams without a single English player and even now we field teams with only a couple of scouse lads but at least before there was that kind of local rootedness that Wenger correctly identified is immensely important. You simply can't deny that.

What does Hicks or Gillet care for the history of Liverpool that saw us being a bright light in the 1970's and 1980's when times were so tough in the city? That it's more than just a football club to people in Liverpool? What does he care about what Shankly means to us when he picked us up and made us believe and dream? Hicks is the one who gives condescending interviews about how cute and crazy and 'from another planet' Liverpool fans are because we don't conform to his idea of what 'customers' of his 'franchises' should be. In the space of less than a year of being sold and prostituted to that disgusting fat bastard the truth of how much he despises or doesn't care for our values and traditions became clear, and for what? He's even making us pay him to spit all over us with his leveraged debts. What a tragedy.

Coady · « **Reply #1246 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:45:39 PM »

DIC confident as George Gillett gets ready to sell Anfield stakeOliver Kay
Dubai International Capital (DIC) remains confident that George Gillett Jr will accept its improved offer for his 50 per cent stake in Liverpool. Gillett, the club's co-chairman, was said to be considering his options and consulting lawyers and brokers last night, increasing DIC's belief that he will accept its offer of a healthy profit rather than allow the process to drag on.

Tom Hicks, Gillett's co-owner, claimed last week that his fellow American “cannot sell without my approval”, but sources close to DIC, the private-equity investment arm of the Dubai Government, claim to have “found a way around that” and that when, not if, Gillett agrees to sell, Hicks will have little option but to do likewise - a scenario that Hicks insists will not transpire as he looks to buy out his business partner.

Gillett, whose partnership with Hicks has disintegrated over the 13 months since they arrived at Anfield, rejected DIC's offer of £200million for his stake - and thus a £25million personal profit once the club's borrowings are taken into account - before a deadline of midnight on Tuesday. The offer was increased over that evening in negotiations between his lawyers and Amanda Staveley, DIC's principal adviser, with sweeteners including a clause that would entitle him to a portion of future profits should Liverpool flourish under new ownership.

Gillett, owner of the Montreal Canadiens ice hockey franchise, was the instigator of the original takeover just over a year ago, when he and Hicks gazumped DIC to buy Liverpool, but several factors - notably a difficult financial climate and his dysfunctional working relationship with Hicks - have persuaded him to sell his stake.

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He is at present recovering from illness at his home in Vail, Colorado, while his son, Foster, who was given the job as a liaison between the owners and Rafael Benítez, the manager, has returned to Montreal indefinitely.

Hicks promises to be a far more awkward negotiator, but DIC doubts the claims from the United States that he has the means to pursue his ambition of buying out Gillett's stake. His reported plan to buy 2 per cent of Gillett's stake - giving him majority control, with 51 per cent of the share capital - is not taken seriously by DIC, which claims that it would trigger a “change of control” clause.

Drewas · « **Reply #1247 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:50:55 PM »

Here we go again.

Flight · « **Reply #1248 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:51:39 PM »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on March 5, 2008, 05:09:25 PM

Too right. Think Wenger should get A LOT of credit for whats gone on there too. He's repaid the boards faith in him tenfold. He's made a profit for them, on transfers alone. Really is amazing.

I agree with everything you say, but when the journos cream themselves over Wenger they overlook the fact they pay 15mill a year more than us in wages.

Coady · « **Reply #1249 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:53:36 PM »

I'm pissing bored of these c*nts, If its money they want they are being offered it plus a future bonus if the club fulfills its potential. If anyone can wake us up its DIC.

fowler_god9 · « **Reply #1250 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:53:44 PM »

Quote from: Flight on March 5, 2008, 10:51:39 PM

I agree with everything you say, but when the journos cream themselves over Wenger they overlook the fact they pay 15mill a year more than us in wages.

Yeah but arent wages higher in London?

rossipersiempre · « **Reply #1251 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:54:04 PM »

Quote from: Flight on March 5, 2008, 10:51:39 PM

I agree with everything you say, but when the journos cream themselves over Wenger they overlook the fact they pay 15mill a year more than us in wages.

...and have won precisely ZILCH in the last three years during which period we have won the FA Cup and the Champions League.

HarryLabrador · « **Reply #1252 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:54:07 PM »

Quote from: Drewas on March 5, 2008, 10:50:55 PM

Here we go again.

I can't remember the last time I was so unproductive, probably since I was a student. Thankfully, my family understands. Please Gillett, take the money and let us go back to normal.

SickBoy.no · « **Reply #1253 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:55:24 PM »

Who has got the last 2 % ? DM? In that case it would (assuming DM is willing to get behind DIC) Gillets share be enough to control the club?

HarryLabrador · « **Reply #1254 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:56:20 PM »

Anyway, I'm off to bed now to watch 4 fabulous goals! Goodnight all.

MichaelO · « **Reply #1255 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:57:56 PM »

Quote from: SickBoy.no on March 5, 2008, 10:55:24 PM

Who has got the last 2 % ? DM? In that case it would (assuming DM is willing to get behind DIC) Gillets share be enough to control the club?

Noone and neither DM. Hicks wants to buy 2% of Gillet..... but 1 % would be enough though.

SickBoy.no · « **Reply #1256 on:** March 5, 2008, 10:59:38 PM »

Yes. To get 51%. If this article is correct then there's someone else sitting on shares.. But it could be wrong of course.

Or is my head completely fucked after all this?

Liverbird 2010 · « **Reply #1257 on:** March 5, 2008, 11:01:15 PM »

Just fuckin sell shitehawks so we can get on with things that matter on the pitch.
You pair of horrible greedy twats we hate your guts now fuck off once and for all.

guyko21 · « **Reply #1258 on:** March 5, 2008, 11:01:16 PM »

How was the protest tonight?

Ste08 · « **Reply #1259 on:** March 5, 2008, 11:04:41 PM »

Looks as if things are moving on then. If what Kay says is true i'd be fuming that, that leech could possibly be getting a share of our future profits whilst collecting his profit now for doing fuck all.

Red_in_Holland · « **Reply #1260 on:** March 6, 2008, 02:14:13 AM »

Quote from: Ste08 on March 5, 2008, 11:04:41 PM

Looks as if things are moving on then. If what Kay says is true i'd be fuming that, that leech could possibly be getting a share of our future profits whilst collecting his profit now for doing fuck all.

I don't fkin care to be perfectly honest. We seriously need the fucker out of the club, to allow DIC a foot in the door. Once it is done, I can't see Hicks being able to hang on.

It laughable that we are in this situation, but now the incumbent owners need to be shifted, so I trust DIC will use whatever means necessary to do this.

Once they are gone. we can focus on DICs intentions with us.

RiH

chanti · « **Reply #1261 on:** March 6, 2008, 05:24:53 AM »

Quote from: Scouse Lad on March 5, 2008, 10:45:39 PM

DIC confident as George Gillett gets ready to sell Anfield stakeOliver Kay

Tom Hicks, Gillett's co-owner, claimed last week that his fellow American “cannot sell without my approval”, but sources close to DIC, the private-equity investment arm of the Dubai Government, claim to have “found a way around that” and that when, not if, Gillett agrees to sell, Hicks will have little option but to do likewise - a scenario that Hicks insists will not transpire as he looks to buy out his business partner.

Can anyone shed more light on this.

How can the FUCKER be forced out if DIC acquires GG shares.

Thank you

ewahT · « **Reply #1262 on:** March 6, 2008, 05:50:09 AM »

£500 million bid to be made for Liverpool FC today by DIC,the americans will get some of the future stadium profits as i undrstand it.

source : bbc news 24 business report

chanti · « **Reply #1263 on:** March 6, 2008, 05:59:15 AM »

Quote from: ewahT on March 6, 2008, 05:50:09 AM

£500 million bid to be made for Liverpool FC today by DIC,the americans will get some of the future stadium profits as i undrstand it.

source : bbc news 24 business report

real dirt bags, this is blood money they asking for- fucking bastards

JimmyF · « **Reply #1264 on:** March 6, 2008, 06:04:47 AM »

Tom Hicks paves way for talks with DIC
By David Bond
Last Updated: 3:10am GMT 06/03/2008

Tom Hicks wrote to advisers of Dubai International Capital yesterday indicating his representatives were prepared to meet for talks in London next week to discuss their offer to buy 50 per cent of the club from George Gillett.

David Bond: Dubai International Capital banking on Hicks

Although Hicks maintains he has no intention of selling his half of the club to the sovereign wealth fund, yesterday's thawing of relations suggested DIC's £400 million bid for control of Anfield could be on the verge of a major breakthrough.

Talks between Gillett's lawyers and DIC's negotiators, the private equity firm PCP Capital Partners, were continuing last night.

Despite increasing their initial offer to Gillett from £40 million to a deal which could earn the Colorado-based entrepreneur as much as £80 million, he is stalling on an agreement and is understood to be holding out for even more money.

DIC, in turn, have made it clear they will not up their offer and that the American is running out of time to accept their bid.

DIC are hopeful that by indicating his willingness to discuss the future of Gillett's joint-ownership of Liverpool, Hicks is preparing to drop his opposition to their purchase of his co-chairman's shares.

Having rejected the offer made to both Americans by DIC last week, Hicks went even further, by making it clear that not only did he have first refusal on Gillett's shares but that he would block any move by DIC to purchase them.

His stance threatened to leave Liverpool in an awkward limbo even if they clinched an agreement with Gillett to buy him out.

Hicks has now told DIC that in the interests of Liverpool supporters, it is vital that the impasse over Gillett's future is resolved.

DIC say they are hopeful a deal will be agreed with Gillett, at least in principle, by the weekend. That would then leave them clear to persuade Hicks to drop his veto against the DIC deal.

Despite yesterday's letter from Hicks, a spokesman for the Texan billionaire said last night that he had not softened his position and was still prepared to use his blocking option to stop DIC gaining a foothold in the club.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/03/06/sfnliv106.xml

kneeys · « **Reply #1265 on:** March 6, 2008, 06:18:00 AM »

DIC to get get the Dicks out of Anfield?
Get the Dicks out for FANS!

jonnygeeart · « **Reply #1266 on:** March 6, 2008, 07:18:34 AM »

recent developments just highlight just how bad parry has been as a CEO for LFC in that it shows that he could have and should have been able to get DIC to pay more last year instead of being a back stabbing shit only concerned about his job

ArcticRed · « **Reply #1267 on:** March 6, 2008, 07:24:38 AM »

Quote from: JimmyF on March 6, 2008, 06:04:47 AM

Tom Hicks paves way for talks with DIC
By David Bond
Last Updated: 3:10am GMT 06/03/2008
...

"Hicks has now told DIC that in the interests of Liverpool supporters, it is vital that the impasse over Gillett's future is resolved."

WTF?

pazcom · « **Reply #1268 on:** March 6, 2008, 07:35:54 AM »

Quote from: ewahT on March 6, 2008, 05:50:09 AM

£500 million bid to be made for Liverpool FC today by DIC,the americans will get some of the future stadium profits as i undrstand it. source : bbc news 24 business report

bloody hell, thats £50 million increase each day this week. I remember a few weeks back that BBC sport said DIC were preparing a £500 million bid. Could all this week be just a smokescreen and that G&H were going to sell all along but wanted some form (not sure what though) of publicity. Any news on the protest lastnight please?

Wigwampaddy · « **Reply #1269 on:** March 6, 2008, 07:42:22 AM »

Quote from: pazcom on March 6, 2008, 07:35:54 AM

bloody hell, thats £50 million increase each day this week. I remember a few weeks back that BBC sport said DIC were preparing a £500 million bid. Could all this week be just a smokescreen and that G&H were going to sell all along but wanted some form (not sure what though) of publicity. Any news on the protest lastnight please?

Could well be part of an arranged "exit strategy" allowing the yanks to walk with some degree of kudos in the business world. As for the protest, try the "Half Time Protest" thread a bit down the page.

Liverbird 2010 · « **Reply #1270 on:** March 6, 2008, 07:49:34 AM »

Quote from: pazcom on March 6, 2008, 07:35:54 AM

bloody hell, thats £50 million increase each day this week. I remember a few weeks back that BBC sport said DIC were preparing a £500 million bid. Could all this week be just a smokescreen and that G&H were going to sell all along but wanted some form (not sure what though) of publicity. Any news on the protest lastnight please?

Yes someone suggested this might happen the other day, horrible greedy bastards, if I was DIC I wouldnt give them future profits cheeky fuckers.

rocco · « **Reply #1271 on:** March 6, 2008, 07:59:34 AM »

Quote from: Lyndsey_LFC on March 6, 2008, 07:49:34 AM

Yes someone suggested this might happen the other day, horrible greedy bastards, if I was DIC I wouldnt give them future profits cheeky fuckers.

IMO DIC will have some type of time restraint on it....yanks will get money from profits, up to 10 years after sale....
Therefore DIC will put all the money back into players and the club , as no profits for the first 10 years with 2 fingers up to the yanks

abhred · « **Reply #1272 on:** March 6, 2008, 08:06:56 AM »

I am feeling confident that DIC will be our new owners now.

wolf99000 · « **Reply #1273 on:** March 6, 2008, 08:09:24 AM »

Quote from: ArcticRed on March 6, 2008, 07:24:38 AM

WTF?

as his only way out is to sell the club to DIC he is trying to save a bit of face could you imagine if this deal does not happen then he will never have to come near liverpool ever again

PhilAnderer · « **Reply #1274 on:** March 6, 2008, 08:11:09 AM »

Quote from: rocco on March 6, 2008, 07:59:34 AM

IMO DIC will have some type of time restraint on it....yanks will get money from profits, up to 10 years after sale....
Therefore DIC will put all the money back into players and the club , as no profits for the first 10 years with 2 fingers up to the yanks

ROFL LMAO, Clever DIC... They'll both be dead by then.

wz4jc3 · « **Reply #1275 on:** March 6, 2008, 08:12:06 AM »

Quote from: rocco on March 6, 2008, 07:59:34 AM

IMO DIC will have some type of time restraint on it....yanks will get money from profits, up to 10 years after sale....
Therefore DIC will put all the money back into players and the club , as no profits for the first 10 years with 2 fingers up to the yanks

Sound good to me.

pazcom · « **Reply #1276 on:** March 6, 2008, 08:19:55 AM »

Quote from: wolf99000 on March 6, 2008, 08:09:24 AM

as his only way out is to sell the club to DIC he is trying to save a bit of face could you imagine if this deal does not happen then he will never have to come near liverpool ever again

sorry mised what you were saying due to profile pic!!

wolf99000 · « **Reply #1277 on:** March 6, 2008, 08:23:44 AM »

Quote from: pazcom on March 6, 2008, 08:19:55 AM

sorry mised what you were saying due to profile pic!!

damn hate to do that I can take it down so you can think more clearly hun lol

danisch · « **Reply #1278 on:** March 6, 2008, 08:24:40 AM »

paying 500m (or more) for something that would've cost them only 190m last year.

Who here still thinks DIC 'will be even worse than G&H and only want to make money off us' / 'out of the frying pan into the fire'

The figures make no financial sense whatsoever. The only thing that makes sense is Ansari, being a Liverpool fan, is not willing to back down now, whatever the cost may be. And he's got the full backing of Sheikh Mohammad who also calls himself a red.

pazcom · « **Reply #1279 on:** March 6, 2008, 08:26:15 AM »

Quote from: wolf99000 on March 6, 2008, 08:23:44 AM

damn hate to do that I can take it down so you can think more clearly hun lol

no no your fine. I have pulled myself together (and not like that) and am now worrying about the takeover rollercoaster we will have to go through today.