Topic: THAT WAS A FUCKING PENALTY

[RedLoner]

Why don't you wear a nun's dress instead and stick your whistle up your ass your stupid idiot!

[capt k]

poll was only 10-15 yds away from the action.............
Im 12,000 miles away.......... i could fucking see it from here ya blind twat poll ...

but i thought he had half a decent game{ coz i missed the ist half} he could hav sent el hadj off for his 2nd bad tackle in 3 mins.so sensible refeffing there...

FUCK IM GUTTED

[RedLoner]

You might be right overall, but just venting some frustration over that particular incident. Somehow recently whenever we play these bastards there's always a crucial decision like that that makes us pay.

[Tim-Cross]

To be honest, I think it was a good tackle, although at the time I thought it was a penalty

[Skeeve]

He had a terrible game and went out of his way to avoid giving us freekicks when he should have and if there was contact (i didnt think there was) with that 2nd ehd tackle then he should have given him a second yellow, just because it was the one decision that went our way doesn't actually make it a right one.

[Woodbury]

I'm not sure now that I look at it again that he made much contact.  I'll have another look and capture it and put it online later today.

[Filler.]

it wasn't a penalty. I thought it was too but it wasn't. sometimes you get them sometimes you don't.. unlucky to get a good referee.

[Tim-Cross]

Aye, Poll was good today (although that didn't actually help)

[RedLoner]

I disagree, I thought it was.  If he had given it away I don't think their players would have complained much. referees award penalties for much less than that.

[laddo]

rob_filler, why wasnt it a penalty? he took the man who was through on goal?

flo touched the ball away, ferdinand took his ankle and this was clear from replays even andy gray admitted it and hes a biased bitter blue

it was a tough decision at the time but how can you say it wasnt a penno???

[Tim-Cross]

Look at FSP's reaction. That said it all.  

The reason we lost was not because of that, it was because we again did not take our chances while dominating the game. Same old story

[Johan_Halle]

Look at FSP's reaction. That said it all.  

The reason we lost was not because of that, it was because we again did not take our chances while dominating the game. Same old story

How do you figure that? We hardly had a chance worth the name till we were 2-0 down!

[Hugh]

Fuck Fuck Fuck!

[Tim-Cross]

We dominated the first half in terms of play and possession.

It's a bit like the Roy Evans era, play well, lots of the ball, lose two one

[Woodbury]

How do you figure that? We hardly had a chance worth the name till we were 2-0 down!

We still dominated the game whether we created chances or not.  And we did create more chances too ...

[RedLoner]

Look at FSP's reaction. That said it all.  

The reason we lost was not because of that, it was because we again did not take our chances while dominating the game. Same old story

Not arguing with or against that, not the point here. I saw the replay twice, I thought it was a penalty.  I thought I heard the commentators from *SKY* say it could have easily have been one after seeing the replay.

[Chris_Romania]

It wasn't a penalty. TV replays showed Rio didn't touch Pongolle. Unfortunately.

[Danni]

First thoughts were yer deffo penalty after watching it for the second time my thoughts were F*uck sake ref are yer blind!!!!  

[Brick Tamland]

Moments like that change a game.

As do missing sitters 6 yards out in the last minute.

[Tim-Cross]

 

[hampsy]

it wasn't a penalty. I thought it was too but it wasn't. sometimes you get them sometimes you don't.. unlucky to get a good referee.

exactly my feelings, unlucky, very unlucky.

Very flattering result for the mancs, Liverpool showed they have not lost their passion, just hone the passing and get stuck in midfield (reason for their 1st goal) and we can win every game remaining.

BELIEVE



COME ON LIVERPOOL

[Brick Tamland]

No we cannot win every remaining game.

Go on, call me a pesimist  

[hampsy]

ooh you pesimist  


mr.optimist  

[Brick Tamland]

 

I'll get over it mate.

[Frustratedjohnny]

It was a pen as Flo took the ball away from Howard and dickhead just brought him down not even touching the ball. Defin peno.

[capt k]

It WAS a penno............

watch the replay......

Flo pushes the ball to his right  ferdinand comes in from flo's left and gets NO WHERE NEAR the ball  his thigh contacts flos trailing leg{ his left } and flo goes down....

so what is the prerequisites for  awarding a penno?

i would have thought the defender NOT touching the ball and taking the legs of the striker out was enough.

[PortlandRed]

That tackle was shit, and everyone knows it.  I don't know what the ref whas watching, his shoelaces maybe, but he blew it.

[RedLoner]

i would have thought the defender NOT touching the ball and taking the legs of the striker out was enough.

Well explained. thanks.

[Woodbury]

http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/goals/

I put the video online for you guys.  Hopefully it should clear some things up.  

Personally, I do think it's a penalty.  From the angles that are given it's hard to tell whether or not their thighs make contact.  The question is, how did Pongolle fall?  He may have lost his balance having half stepped on the ball, although you can clearly see that Ferdinand was pushing on his back.  Either way, I don't blame the referee because even having seen several angles I still can't really make up my mind.

[Zach]

50/50 situation.

Usually, refs don't give pennos for 50/50 situations, unless it's Riley at OT.

[saph]

even andy fucking bluenose gray said it was a penalty!

as for diouffy - he shouldn't have had a yellow for the first tackle, but should've for the second.

[ecmdtan]

While it was a penalty, I agreed that the ref isn't too blame.  Split second decision to make without the benefit of replays....oh well..

[Fergo]

it was the most blatant penalty i've ever seen, how poll never seen i'll never know. maybe he thought cheatinand got a foot on the ball...which replays show just didnt happen at all.

[SJL]

The sad part is that if the situation was reversed and Horseface had taken a knock, that would've been given in an instant.  

[Guz-kop]

Pongolle just touched the ball away and then got brought down slightly. Personally think it was a pen but if the roles were reversed I'd obviously be annoyed if it were given.

But it would have been given in front of the Stretford if it was horse face. Riley or no Riley.

[Fergo]

if roles were reversed, i'd have blamed our defender who did it, because it was a blatant penalty

[Woodbury]

I don't know whether Ferdinand's leg caught him, as it is hard to tell from the angles that are given.  However, Ferdinand was definitely applying pressure to Sinama's back which may have been what led to him falling.  

In case you want another look  - http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/goals/

[RedBoywonder]

Fuckin deffo pen.  

[Graeme]

Ferdinand doesn't touch the ball, but I dont think he gets much of FSP either.  I wont use this as anexcuse not to get anything from the game, because we had plenty of other chances to score a goal and didn't take them.

[MC-Red]

Ferdinand doesn't touch the ball, but I dont think he gets much of FSP either.  I wont use this as anexcuse not to get anything from the game, because we had plenty of other chances to score a goal and didn't take them.

agree