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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2007, 10:18:11 PM »
OK - it's not a 'countdown' - just a list of 50... alphabetical order(ish)

Sadick Adams, Ashanti, Ghana
Ismail Aissati, PSV, Holland
Alexandre Pato, AC Milan, Brazil
Anderson, Man Utd, Brazil
Gareth Bale, Spurs, Wales
Giovani Dos Santos, Barca, Mexico
Sergio Aguero, Atletico Madrid, Argentina
Ever Banega, Boca Jrs, Argentina
Bojan Krkic, Barca, Spain
Breno, Sao Paulo, Brazil
Gerardo Bruna, Liverpool, Argentina
Diego Buonanotte, River Plate, Argentina
Macauley Christantus, Abuja, Nigeria
Angel Di Maria, Benfica, Argentina
Franco Di Santo, Audax Italiano, Argentina
Karim Benzema, Lyon, France
Dumitru Copil, Hearts, Romania
Kermit Erasmus, Sundown Utd, S.Africa
Fabio, Fluminense, Brazil
Fabio Coentrao, Benfica, Portugal
Marouane Fellaini, Std Liege, Belgium
Guilherme, Cruziero, Brazil
Nour Hadhria, Club Africain, Tunisia
Rabul Ibrahim, Sporting Lisbon, Nigeria
Damian Ismodes, Sporting Cristal, Peru
Lorenzo De Silvestri, Lazio, Italy
Kerlon, Cruzeiro, Brazil
Toni Kroos, Bayern, Germany
Lulinha, Corinthians, Brazil
Sapol Mani, Maranatha, Togo
Juan Manuel Mata, Valencia, Spain
Cristian Nazarith, America Cali, Colombia
Aaron Niguez, Valencia, Spain
Daniel Opare, Ashanti, Ghana
Ransford Osei, Kesseben, Ghana
Fran Merida, Arsenal, Spain
Nikolay Mihaylov, Twente Enschede (from us on loan), Bulgaria
Mesut Ozil, Shalke, Germany
Renato Augusto, Flamengo, Brazil
Micah Richards, Man City, England
Andrea Russotto, Treviso, Italy
Henry Saivet, Bordeaux, France
Alex Sanchez, River Plate, Chile
Marek Suchy, Slavia Prague, Czech Rep
Sergio Tejera, Chelsea, Spain
Ivan Rakitic, Shalke, Croatia
Abdou Traore, Rosenborg, Burkina Faso
Gregory Van Der Wiel, Ajax, Holland
Carlos Vela, Osasuna (loan from Arsenal), Mexico
Theo Walcott, Arsenal, England



Precious few Brits in there. Richards and Walcott. That's why LFC has to look abroad for our future stars and why the English national side don't seem to have much to cheer about for the future.
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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2007, 10:40:04 PM »
I searched for a thread on this lad, and I am sure one exists, but couldn't find anything, so I started this new one.

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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2007, 01:08:24 AM »
errr,, where is my name?

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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2007, 01:18:32 AM »
Precious few Brits in there. Richards and Walcott. That's why LFC has to look abroad for our future stars and why the English national side don't seem to have much to cheer about for the future.

wta load of shite tha is, theres not many brits in there cos they havnt really gota fukin dream of a chance at any of the big clubs, wev just won the youth cup two years in a row and id have a fair bet that the side(s) would have beat any other team in europe in competative games, yet beitez finds he has to go out into europe n bringin shite over such as paletta an baragan. why does ithurt him so much to give local talent a chance at maybe not playing but at least training wth the first team. gerrard wasnt a world beater when he first started trainin with the first team but through determinaton and desire he learnt form those he was playin with. would gerrard, owen and certainly caragher come through the ranks now if they were 18, id have to say no meself

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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2007, 01:37:24 AM »
So what, other foreign clubs don't import youngsters either?  Iniesta, Fabregas, Piqué were competing with the likes of Messi but still found a way to stand out.
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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2007, 02:07:34 AM »
I like the sound of Kermit Erasmus. Can we have him please? :)
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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2007, 02:31:55 AM »
wta load of shite tha is, theres not many brits in there cos they havnt really gota fukin dream of a chance at any of the big clubs, wev just won the youth cup two years in a row and id have a fair bet that the side(s) would have beat any other team in europe in competative games, yet beitez finds he has to go out into europe n bringin shite over such as paletta an baragan. why does ithurt him so much to give local talent a chance at maybe not playing but at least training wth the first team. gerrard wasnt a world beater when he first started trainin with the first team but through determinaton and desire he learnt form those he was playin with. would gerrard, owen and certainly caragher come through the ranks now if they were 18, id have to say no meself

Don't be such a idiot, there's no one with Gerrard, Owen or Carragher's talent in the youth team. Plus, Carragher was lambasted for years, some people saying he should be sold to Villa or something.
If we had any real talent waiting in the youth team, they'd be pushing for a place in the first team squad.  Last time we won the Youth Cup, who came up through the ranks?

And to be honest, when you have the likes of Owen and Gerrard, it's a no brainer they're going to make it.

As an aside, arguably had Owen and Gerrard been nursed into the first team, they might not have suffered so much through injury and Owen's hamstrings but not have gone.

But yes, Benitez obviously hates English people, he's keeping the youth team down on purpose. ::)
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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2007, 04:06:38 AM »
wta load of shite tha is, theres not many brits in there cos they havnt really gota fukin dream of a chance at any of the big clubs, wev just won the youth cup two years in a row and id have a fair bet that the side(s) would have beat any other team in europe in competative games, yet beitez finds he has to go out into europe n bringin shite over such as paletta an baragan. why does ithurt him so much to give local talent a chance at maybe not playing but at least training wth the first team. gerrard wasnt a world beater when he first started trainin with the first team but through determinaton and desire he learnt form those he was playin with. would gerrard, owen and certainly caragher come through the ranks now if they were 18, id have to say no meself

On what basis was Barragan shite? I thought the lad was promising. We have a buy back option on him btw.

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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2007, 04:37:07 AM »
A couple of players from Ashanti there as well, hope we can get them up on trial at Liverpool and if they are good enough then sign them.
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« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2007, 09:50:41 AM »
Whatever happened to Sonny Pike? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2007, 09:56:01 AM »
Obviously a big fan of Limal.

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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2007, 11:37:05 AM »
and ?

do you think Messi would get in our side ?

serious question

and if so, where ?

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« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2007, 11:38:53 AM »
and ?

do you think Messi would get in our side ?

serious question

and if so, where ?

Errrr..... of course he would.
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« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2007, 11:40:14 AM »
wta load of shite tha is, theres not many brits in there cos they havnt really gota fukin dream of a chance at any of the big clubs, wev just won the youth cup two years in a row and id have a fair bet that the side(s) would have beat any other team in europe in competative games, yet beitez finds he has to go out into europe n bringin shite over such as paletta an baragan. why does ithurt him so much to give local talent a chance at maybe not playing but at least training wth the first team. gerrard wasnt a world beater when he first started trainin with the first team but through determinaton and desire he learnt form those he was playin with. would gerrard, owen and certainly caragher come through the ranks now if they were 18, id have to say no meself

Im sure some of the first team players of the time said that as soon as gerrard started training with the first team that you could see that he was special. so he must have been quite good.
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« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2007, 11:47:52 AM »
Im sure some of the first team players of the time said that as soon as gerrard started training with the first team that you could see that he was special. so he must have been quite good.

I think you have to say if our academies are full of Argentinian, Brazilian, Belgian, Nigerian etc kids then some of our English talent will not come through. What about the late developers or players whose talent in a particular position is realised late? As someone else said there were some calls to sell Carragher in the early part of his career. If we had had a young defender from Spain that was ready, it could have happened. It is about opportunity and we have to watch out not to give all the slots to for talent to Non-British lads. Of course we want the next Messi and Ronaldinho but we also want the next Robbie Fowler and John Barnes too.

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« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2007, 11:51:33 AM »
I think you have to say if our academies are full of Argentinian, Brazilian, Belgian, Nigerian etc kids then some of our English talent will not come through. What about the late developers or players whose talent in a particular position is realised late? As someone else said there were some calls to sell Carragher in the early part of his career. If we had had a young defender from Spain that was ready, it could have happened. It is about opportunity and we have to watch out not to give all the slots to for talent to Non-British lads. Of course we want the next Messi and Ronaldinho but we also want the next Robbie Fowler and John Barnes too.


I don't see how you can hold places back for local lads in case they are late developers. The coaching staff can only make judgment calls, but the modern day Carragher would still get plenty of chances to develop. Defenders are notoriously difficult to judge at that age anyway.
 
Btw, Robbie Fowler was a gem at 17, while John Barnes didn't join us until he was 23, but was also a top-level player as a teenager.
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« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2007, 12:02:51 PM »
Regarding English or local lads, if they are good enough they'll make it. When a talent like Robbie Fowler came through, nothing was really going to stop him making the first team eventually the way he was progressing. Same as Gerrard and Owen. I guess you could call Carragher a late developer, but the people in charge obviously saw something in him otherwise he would have been sold off ages ago. If they have the talent, they'll eventually get games, simple as that.

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« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2007, 12:06:51 PM »
wta load of shite tha is, theres not many brits in there cos they havnt really gota fukin dream of a chance at any of the big clubs, wev just won the youth cup two years in a row and id have a fair bet that the side(s) would have beat any other team in europe in competative games, yet beitez finds he has to go out into europe n bringin shite over such as paletta an baragan. why does ithurt him so much to give local talent a chance at maybe not playing but at least training wth the first team. gerrard wasnt a world beater when he first started trainin with the first team but through determinaton and desire he learnt form those he was playin with. would gerrard, owen and certainly caragher come through the ranks now if they were 18, id have to say no meself


A bit of a bizarre rant that. And, alas, full of loads of inaccuracies.

Barragan shite? He remains one of the best young full-backs around, and has played plenty of times for Depor in the Spanish top division since going there. Ditto Insua - top class for 18.

We won the FA Youth Cup based on good teamwork and organisation. The idea is to find the best players, not to build good teams, although that's a bonus.

Clearly there's some decent talent in the local ranks, but also don't forget that those cups were won with some of the best players being Hobbs, Antwi, Roque, Anderson, Ajdarevic and Hansen, who were all bought by Benítez.

Gerrard and Owen would DEFINITELY come through now if they were 18/19. Gerrard was marked out as a massive talent at the age of 14, when he went on an U19 tour with the club. Same for Owen, who was in the national papers aged 14. Where are the current equivalents? Nowhere. And that's why the Academy system needed overhauling and for the club to look further afield at the same time.

The fact is, we've been producing a string of decent players for a decade, but no great ones since 1998. The only top-class Scouser to emerge in that time is Wayne Rooney. So it's not like we're missing them; and even Rooney would never have joined us as a kid.

And Benítez would LOVE more Carraghers and Gerrards, he's said so countless times. But they aren't there, just as the next Gascoignes, Waddles and Beardsleys aren't at Newcastle right now, or the next Beckhams, Scholes(es) and Giggs(eseses) at United. You cannot promote local lads out of sentimentality if they are not good enough. United aren't doing so, so why should we?

Adam Hammill, the best of the crop, can't currently get in the Southampton side, so why should he be in ours? He may one day, as he continues his education, but he's clearly not ready yet. And when he is ready, he has to prove it.

Benítez wants the best players he can get his hands on, no matter where they are from. Because he wants the best team. It's typical of the myopic vision of some fans that he can be accused of overlooking local lads because a) he's Spanish and b) he's looking for the best players no matter what their nationality, when the real top-class quality from Liverpool clearly, clearly, clearly isn't there.
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« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2007, 12:54:24 PM »
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Adam Hammill, the best of the crop, can't currently get in the Southampton side, so why should he be in ours? He may one day, as he continues his education, but he's clearly not ready yet. And when he is ready, he has to prove it.

Some astute points there but how will Hammill ever get the chance? People like Leto will always be ahead of him, in even getting the opportunities to play and prove themselves. There has to be some corrective to encourage local talent. We can't just say, oh well the players aren't there, when is the next plane to Buenos Aires.

Rafa would like the next Carra or Gerrard sure, but he is not exactly burning up inside over the lack of chances for someone like, say, a Steve Warnock. It is these sort of players who always get shifted on by the Wenger's and RB's in the Premiership because there is an alternative foreign player in place. In Warnock's case, and this is debatable, there was no better alternative at Liverpool.

We've seen Mark Gonzalez and Seb Leto struggling in a Liverpool shirt (listen, I'm not saying they are bad players, Leto has plenty of time too) yet we do not see Hamill or Paul Anderson given a go. I hope Hobbs gets a chance one day in meaningful matches too.


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« Reply #59 on: November 14, 2007, 01:07:29 PM »
Some astute points there but how will Hammill ever get the chance? People like Leto will always be ahead of him, in even getting the opportunities to play and prove themselves. There has to be some corrective to encourage local talent. We can't just say, oh well the players aren't there, when is the next plane to Buenos Aires.

Rafa would like the next Carra or Gerrard sure, but he is not exactly burning up inside over the lack of chances for someone like, say, a Steve Warnock. It is these sort of players who always get shifted on by the Wenger's and RB's in the Premier League because there is an alternative foreign player in place. In Warnock's case, and this is debatable, there was no better alternative at Liverpool.

We've seen Mark Gonzalez and Seb Leto struggling in a Liverpool shirt (listen, I'm not saying they are bad players, Leto has plenty of time too) yet we do not see Hamill or Paul Anderson given a go. I hope Hobbs gets a chance one day in meaningful matches too.



but he did give Steve Warnock a chance. he had quite a few games. but rafa has riise who has been part of the best defence in the country and also can play as left mid. and aurelio who is a player with a very good cross, and set pieces are good.
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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2007, 01:11:06 PM »
would gerrard, owen and certainly caragher come through the ranks now if they were 18, id have to say no meself
Are you kidding?

Owen was wanted by every club known to man.
Gerrard was a physical freak. I can only imagine how good Gerrard would have been if Rafa was able to mold him at 18-19 years old.
He's world class now..but he would be, I dont know..what's above world class?
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« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2007, 01:13:45 PM »

A bit of a bizarre rant that. And, alas, full of loads of inaccuracies.

Barragan shite? He remains one of the best young full-backs around, and has played plenty of times for Depor in the Spanish top division since going there. Ditto Insua - top class for 18.

We won the FA Youth Cup based on good teamwork and organisation. The idea is to find the best players, not to build good teams, although that's a bonus.

Clearly there's some decent talent in the local ranks, but also don't forget that those cups were won with some of the best players being Hobbs, Antwi, Roque, Anderson, Ajdarevic and Hansen, who were all bought by Benítez.

Gerrard and Owen would DEFINITELY come through now if they were 18/19. Gerrard was marked out as a massive talent at the age of 14, when he went on an U19 tour with the club. Same for Owen, who was in the national papers aged 14. Where are the current equivalents? Nowhere. And that's why the Academy system needed overhauling and for the club to look further afield at the same time.

The fact is, we've been producing a string of decent players for a decade, but no great ones since 1998. The only top-class Scouser to emerge in that time is Wayne Rooney. So it's not like we're missing them; and even Rooney would never have joined us as a kid.

And Benítez would LOVE more Carraghers and Gerrards, he's said so countless times. But they aren't there, just as the next Gascoignes, Waddles and Beardsleys aren't at Newcastle right now, or the next Beckhams, Scholes(es) and Giggs(eseses) at United. You cannot promote local lads out of sentimentality if they are not good enough. United aren't doing so, so why should we?

Adam Hammill, the best of the crop, can't currently get in the Southampton side, so why should he be in ours? He may one day, as he continues his education, but he's clearly not ready yet. And when he is ready, he has to prove it.

Benítez wants the best players he can get his hands on, no matter where they are from. Because he wants the best team. It's typical of the myopic vision of some fans that he can be accused of overlooking local lads because a) he's Spanish and b) he's looking for the best players no matter what their nationality, when the real top-class quality from Liverpool clearly, clearly, clearly isn't there.

agree 100%

playing English born players because they are home grown will not wim=n us anything if they just are'nt good enough.
If guys on here had there way, we'd be 70% english with an average age of 21 and bottom of league.
grow up guys, the game has moved on, Top young English players cost too much and arent world class.
look at your English National team...Gerrard, owen, Rooney, Walcott and maybe richards are your world class stars.....by that i mean can change a game.

look where Rafa is buying from.........Spain, Argentina and Brazil.........how many world class stars are in their National Squads?????????


BTW, why is Lucas not on that list........Brazilian player of year last year and only 20.....is he too old for the list?
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Re: Gerardo Bruna
« Reply #62 on: November 14, 2007, 01:24:34 PM »
Ever Banega, Boca Jrs, Argentina

Keep your eye on this one.

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« Reply #63 on: November 14, 2007, 01:42:10 PM »
Ever Banega, Boca Jrs, Argentina

Keep your eye on this one.

Why ?

We already have Mascherano and Lucas ...

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« Reply #64 on: November 14, 2007, 02:03:59 PM »
Ever Banega, Boca Jrs, Argentina

Keep your eye on this one.

he's right, this lad rocks!!!!!!
great skill and vision
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« Reply #65 on: November 14, 2007, 05:00:53 PM »
wta load of shite tha is, theres not many brits in there cos they havnt really gota fukin dream of a chance at any of the big clubs, wev just won the youth cup two years in a row and id have a fair bet that the side(s) would have beat any other team in europe in competative games, yet beitez finds he has to go out into europe n bringin shite over such as paletta an baragan. why does ithurt him so much to give local talent a chance at maybe not playing but at least training wth the first team. gerrard wasnt a world beater when he first started trainin with the first team but through determinaton and desire he learnt form those he was playin with. would gerrard, owen and certainly caragher come through the ranks now if they were 18, id have to say no meself

Phew. Bit of a harsh response, which also seems to miss the point that I was making, i.e. that there aren't many young English players in the list, which would seem to bear out Rafa's policy of looking abroad. And hardly bodes well for the future of the national team, although that should perhaps be in a different thread and was merely mentioned as an aside.
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« Reply #66 on: November 14, 2007, 06:12:36 PM »
Owen was wanted by every club known to man.
Gerrard was a physical freak. I can only imagine how good Gerrard would have been if Rafa was able to mold him at 18-19 years old.
He's world class now..but he would be, I dont know..what's above world class?

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« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2007, 06:30:30 PM »
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« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2007, 07:00:48 PM »
Ever Banega, Boca Jrs, Argentina

Keep your eye on this one.

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« Reply #70 on: November 14, 2007, 07:54:02 PM »
Macauley Christantus, Abuja, Nigeria...

We were linked with him (along with every other top English club) but Hamburg have signed him apparently:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_2880151,00.html

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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_2881885,00.html

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Swede on trial at Liverpool
Swedish youngster given Reds chance

By Kent Hedlundh   Last updated: 14th November 2007
Swede on trial at Liverpool

Liverpool have handed a trial to IF Brommapojkarna starlet Tim Bjorkstrom.

The 16-year-old central defender, who has represented Sweden at Under 17s level, is unsure how long the trial will last, but is excited about being at Anfield.

"It feels terrific," he told fotbolldirekt.com. "I don't know how long I will stay in Liverpool.

"It is a big opportunity. I think it will be fun and a good experience. I go there only to try to have fun and to try to do as well as possible for myself."

Brommapojkarna's club director Ola Danhard believes Bjorkstrom is a talented player, but does not want to get carried away at this stage.

"It is a little early," he said. "But he is a good player and he has conditions to become a talented football player."
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« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2007, 08:13:45 PM »
I've had like 80% of those players in me FM teams. I've been playing too much.
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« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2007, 10:35:03 PM »
But for everyone one of them there's a Cherno Samba that ends up no-where, which I believe was Mr seat_5c's point.

Cherno Samba used to play in my local leisure centre. The joke was that everyone knew he was 5 years older than his passport said he was. So he was bound to look good compared to other kids his "age". Not a bad way to make a fast buck when you think about it.
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« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2007, 10:40:52 PM »
any vids of this lad in action?

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« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2007, 10:42:16 PM »


That lad needs to sort his hair out if hes gonna get anywer

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« Reply #75 on: November 15, 2007, 08:10:16 AM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2007/11/15/ufnliverpool115.xml


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Real Madrid are furious with Liverpool for signing Argentinian youngster Gerardo Bruna after offering the 16-year-old a contract at the Bernabeu.

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Bruna turned down a professional deal with the Spanish club having spent three years at Real to sign a three-year deal to join Rafael Benitez's squad.

   
Foreign import: Bruna's arrival might get Gerrard's back up
The teenager's decision has surprised Real youth coach Michel who has said that the youngster will regret joining Liverpool when he fails to make the breakthrough.

He said: "How many young players taken by Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal have actually played for their first team?

"That is what happens all the time in England. When they see someone they like, they take him.

"They sign the boy to a contract, make all sorts of promises and then put him in their reserves and never give him a competitive game."

Bruna has already been dubbed as 'the next Lionel Messi' and Michel said it was a shame to see the player leave.

"I was surprised when Bruna left because he had been with us for three years and, as soon as he was about to mature, Liverpool took him."

The news comes on a day when Liverpool midfielder and England vice-captain Steven Gerrard has questioned the number of foreign players being brought by Premier League clubs which threatens to stifle the development of English talent.


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Criticism of Arsene Wenger occurs about as frequently as a Cesc Fabregas misplaced pass. The Frenchman has enjoyed unanimous praise for the football and results his side have produced this season, but there is at least one powerful man who has not been entirely impressed.

UEFA president Michel Platini is upset with the way Wenger has assembled his squad.

“I do not like the system of Arsène Wenger,” Platini said this week. “In France, Italy and Spain it is easy to buy with money the best players at 14, 15 or 16. I don’t like that. If the best clubs buy the best 15 or 16 players, [then it] is finished for all the clubs in Europe. If my son is playing at Millwall and at 16 Manchester United come in for this player, then when will Millwall have a good team?”

With Arsenal having to finance the cost of building the Emirates Stadium, Wenger’s acumen has been timely. Wenger plucked Fabregas, Emmanuel Eboue, Kolo Toure, Gael Clichy and many more when they were all teenagers, from various clubs across the world and for minimal cost.

Former Tottenham Hotspur boss Martin Jol spent nearly £60 million on players in the past two seasons and paid the price of not achieving the necessary success, whereas Wenger has generally broken even on his transfer activity over the past four seasons.

Is Platini right to question Wenger’s methods? Should he propose a ruling to block the movement of Under-18 players, or is there nothing wrong with the Arsenal manager’s approach?

He is certainly not alone. To choose just one example, you may not have heard of Gerardo Bruna yet (check the link), but if reports are right, and Liverpool have done their homework, the 16-year-old will be the next foreign teenager to star in the Premier League. Cost to the English club? About 40 million euros less than it cost to bring in Torres.
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« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2007, 08:17:04 AM »
Platini is a cock, and seems to have a fixation with the English game
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« Reply #77 on: November 15, 2007, 08:21:26 AM »
That's a bit rich coming from the Real Youth team coach.  Not as if youngsters are given a massive opportunity there, is it?

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« Reply #78 on: November 15, 2007, 08:24:20 AM »
ha ha ha Madrid whinging about stealing players, what next Fred West complaining about child abuse or Michael Barrymore about the cost of cleaning pools
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« Reply #79 on: November 15, 2007, 08:27:46 AM »
Come on lads lets be honest.  Stealing these Spanish kids is out of order.  If the shoe was on the other foot we'd all be going mental asking the goverment to change the law or do something. 
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