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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2007, 10:38:53 PM »
I feel tired.

Between the amount of rubbished printed, the amount of smoke-screens put up and the fact that alot of us will know only limited amounts about the players we do sign anyway, it should all be a dead issue.

That said, I think we more or less already have the squad.  I'd put it all on Tevez.

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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #81 on: June 10, 2007, 11:07:33 PM »
to be honeset i am totally fed up, why does it all come down to money.

does that mean if we don't spend 25 million plus then  they are no good? i don't think so, what is world class ? this phrase is used so often for players that are just average Joe's.

Our two best players cost nothing and were found on our doorstep.

Spending big especially with our record over recent years does not mean success.

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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2007, 11:10:56 PM »
I don't think I believe the media...
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2007, 11:25:09 PM »

There's great players in other leagues that are not playing anymore. I don't buy this "la liga is not over" as an excuse not to have at least tabled a firm offer for a big name.


So how do i feel? I feel we need a world class striker to be our no.1 prioity. Signing another 3 or 4 good players is bollox. When we play the big teams we need a guy with class who can turn a 0-0 draw into an away win.

 

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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #84 on: June 10, 2007, 11:34:31 PM »
So just how do you KNOW we havent tabled an offer for a world class striker ??

Like I said before, whining and moaning now seems just a show of tantrums like from a nipper that dont get the icecream immediately when they demand it.

I would wait off the transfer window.. and see who LFC have signed or not signed before bitching.

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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2007, 12:21:13 AM »

If our upcoming signings were limited to "just" David Trev & Florent Malouda I think we would still be in good shape
But I see these 2 coming and a couple more to boot.
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2007, 12:21:59 AM »
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #87 on: June 11, 2007, 12:33:54 AM »
Confused, by this thread.
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #88 on: June 11, 2007, 12:47:04 AM »
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #89 on: June 11, 2007, 12:47:20 AM »
I think we will have a substantial spending spree.

Two players 15mil plus and two or three squad players

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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #90 on: June 11, 2007, 12:52:49 AM »
I think theres no money available - at least to the amount Rafa wants. I think our new owners are looking cagey.
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #91 on: June 11, 2007, 12:54:47 AM »
I think theres no money available - at least to the amount Rafa wants. I think our new owners are looking cagey.
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #92 on: June 11, 2007, 01:03:43 AM »
We can presume your glass is half empty then Walshy?

no mate - you can just tell... if the cash was there i suspect there'd be more positive noises like we were hearing towards the back end of the season.

Its only been a few weeks but theres obviously some aggro going on behind the scenes, how much is true i dunno.

I just think our yank friends are stalling especially the geezer you never see, cant remmeber which one it was, the guy without the gigs.

I saw the back of the papers today in a service station about the mancs and tevez - and whether its true or not it didnt surprise me, you could see them getting him, because they go all out for the players they want - we dont.
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #93 on: June 11, 2007, 05:54:45 AM »
How am I feeling?  I'm already burnt out.  I don't know what the hell is going on, what with the negative stories from Bascombe (who has a good track record) on one side, the owners claims that they will back Rafa for any player on the other; Tevez, Eto'o, Forlan, Villa, Bent, Malouda, Mancini, Trezeguet, Torres, Owen.....who knows what to think at this point.  I'm trying to sustain some level of objectivity but am failing miserably in the face of my passion for the club, press induced paranoia, a mental hangover from previous transfer window failings and a lack of sleep.  If I'm not in a straight jacket by the time the window closes It'll be a fuckin miracle at this point. Other than that I feel just peachy.

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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #94 on: June 11, 2007, 07:03:12 AM »
Benitez relationship with Liverpool owners at breaking point
tribalfooball.com - June 10, 2007

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez's relationship with the club's American owners is becoming increasingly strained.
The People says the Spaniard is furious after being told there will be no money available for the signings he has demanded.

Now the relationship between the Liverpool boss and the club's American owners is at breaking point.

And it could easily tip into outright civil war with the manager convinced he has been seriously let down by George Gillett and Tom Hicks as well as chief executive Rick Parry.

There is now concern Benitez could walk away from Anfield before the start of the new season.


It seems that there are many reports of unrest over money, some from sources like the above who tend to pick up bits from elsewhere and some (like Bascombes piece) that may be more creditable. I would have thought that the americans would invest this summer as we will need to be succesful on and off the pitch for them to see something coming back financially. So if they dont back Rafa then it would be a suprise to me. Being also rans will affect sponsorship and prize money etc, and i am sure they will want trophies, so we wait in hope. It is a worry that these reports keep cropping up.

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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #95 on: June 11, 2007, 07:13:55 AM »
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #96 on: June 11, 2007, 07:18:25 AM »
If Gillet and Hicks do a u-turn on their promise of financial backing and we have been suckered big time like fans of their other franchises stateside suggest then my first thought will be :


'At least Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a fucking mask'


If they are sincere then this week they need to show it as this incessant stream of negative newspaper coverage is making us all a little neurotic.
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #97 on: June 11, 2007, 11:24:31 AM »
Up until this summer I'd always been a 5 players for £30m to improve the squad man, rather than a 2 players for £35m to improve the first team.

Now though I believe we need 2, maybe 3 players for the first team and that if we need to spend big on them we should do.

How many of last season's signings became first team regulars?  Kuyt and to a lesser extent Pennant.  Now I think we need a top class striker, a winger and maybe a left back that will make first team roles their own, and the back up players will be of enough quality to help us improve significantly in the league
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #98 on: June 11, 2007, 02:38:53 PM »
I am getting confused by all the are we aren't we crap thats going on. Just have to wait and see everyone knows we need a world class striker not a has been ex manc Forlan is a joke.
I hope that the money will be available for Rafa because its the only way we can move on.
Must say that the new owners seem to have been hooked by the reds and they have been known in the past to pay out serious money to improve their other teams, so lets hope they see sense and invest in Liverpool for the future. I think they will.
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #99 on: June 11, 2007, 04:44:57 PM »
IF Rafa leaves I will be devastated. No manager could replace him well he is in the top 3 managers in the world anything else would be a drop down. Players like Reina,Xabi,Mascherano might all leave.

The article is hopefully bullshit

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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #100 on: June 11, 2007, 04:47:47 PM »
Dave Stubbs, The Gazette (Montreal) June 11th (today)

George Gillett Jr. searched for a way to describe watching his Liverpool soccer club play for the Champions League title May 23 in Athens.

"I think the birth of our children was more worrisome on one hand," the Canadiens majority owner and father of four sons said finally. "And more pleasurable on the other. But short of that, it was pretty exciting."

Liverpool wound up a goal short, defeated 2-1 by AC Milan. But the loss did nothing to tarnish the lustrous finish on his latest investment, as much a public trust as a team that, like the Canadiens, is steeped in rich tradition and impressive success.

Liverpool had advanced to the final with a 1-0 home-field shootout win over Chelsea.

"It was magical," Gillett said of that May 1 night, "like attending the greatest sports event you ever go to on steroids. Nothing can compare to it."

He had bought Liverpool FC three months earlier, partners in the deal with Dallas Stars and Texas Rangers owner Tom Hicks. The purchase price of an estimated $907 million (Canadian) bought out shareholders, assumed debt and will finance a new stadium in Stanley Park.

Gillett spoke radiantly of the Liverpool brand and said all the right things, perhaps trying to allay the fears of the team's passionate fans to whom foreign - worse, American - ownership was a three-headed beast. Rewind to 2001, when he bought the Canadiens, and you'll recall the same emotions in this city.

In just four months of signing soccer cheques, Gillett has learned there are many similarities between Liverpool and the Canadiens.

"Primarily, the passion of the fans - their knowledge and interest," he said in a recent discussion from his office in Vail, Colo.

"I don't think in hockey there's a group of fans who know more about sport or are more emotionally invested in their team than in Montreal. The same is true for Liverpool. To some extent, both communities have a chip on their shoulder. They've been through a lot and both are coming back nicely.

"Montreal is doing well economically, we've got an outstanding mayor and a new (provincial) government that seems to be doing well. There's some of the same in Liverpool, one of the fastest-growing cities in Europe."

The personal side of soccer ownership, he said, is also not far removed from that of hockey; in both sports, Gillett enjoys getting to know his players.

In Athens, he arranged for tickets for three special guests, all friends of Finnish-native Liverpool defender Sami Hyypia: Canadiens captain Saku Koivu and his Minnesota Wild brother, Miko, and for-now Canadiens defenceman Janne Niinimaa.

He speaks glowingly of Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez, both as field boss and businessman, and downplays any talk of Benitez lighting a fire beneath himself and Hicks to spend lavishly on new talent in a league where the phrase "salary cap" does not exist.

"I read that Rafa (Benitez) is throwing hand grenades at us and making demands ... that there's a tension or disagreement between him and the Gillett and Hicks families," Gillett said. "Nothing could be farther from the truth.

"As far back as February, Rafa laid out a program for us. Each one of our sports businesses has a core concept. You can't just flop around looking at opportunities here and there, go left, go right. It has to be part of an integrated plan. We have one at Liverpool, as we have with the Canadiens, one we understand 100 per cent, believe in and support.

"The plan involves us spending money, but it will be part of a plan, not just spending like a drunken sailor."

In the past week, Liverpool has signed four high-profile players important to its future: captain Steven Gerrard and defender Jamie Carragher through 2011, and goalkeeper Pepe Reina and midfielder Xabi Alonso through 2012.

Having gone to the Champions League final two of the past three seasons, Benitez - and his bosses - would love to see improvement on English soil. Liverpool is without a Premiership title since 1990, and finished 21 points back of Manchester United this year.

"Hockey and soccer are all about teamwork, and Rafa believes in that very strongly," Gillett said. "It's the same in almost all of life - it's about partnership, teamwork and communication. It's not all about money.

"In all candour, the Gillett and Hicks families have to say we've been pretty lucky to arrive on the scene and enjoy this first-season success. It's heady and a lot of fun, but it sure would be a mistake for us to try to act like we had anything to do with it.

"This is the work of (former chairman and life president) David Moores and (chief executive) Rick Parry and Rafa and the players. We were the fortunate beneficiaries of circumstance."
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #101 on: June 11, 2007, 04:56:16 PM »
Link to the above:

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/sports/story.html?id=62c4b3e0-0592-4d91-b3bc-15952b12801b&p=1

Wonder if any of the British press will pick up on this?
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #102 on: June 11, 2007, 05:12:06 PM »
Theres something in that article that make me feel a little better, dont know why but the "Plan" thing seems to make sense i imagine it is how Rafa would operate not just throwing money about.  Still hopefully they can spped these plans up and get everything done a little quicker would be nice, it would also stop all the bust up ninsense.  How do they know that they have had a bust up, does Rafa phone sky sports news and say hes not happy NO would hicks and Gillett risk anouncing to the news they dont want Rafa, NO so who tells, the cleaner, caterers or some other day to day person.  Can you imagine the call or email.  "i work for lfc and i heard rafa and owners arguing over money" i cannot belive that Journos would believe this (but they do)
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #103 on: June 11, 2007, 05:12:38 PM »
sorry went on a bit of a rant there
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Re: How do you feel?
« Reply #104 on: June 11, 2007, 05:38:38 PM »
How am I feeling?  I'm already burnt out.  I don't know what the hell is going on, what with the negative stories from Bascombe (who has a good track record) on one side, the owners claims that they will back Rafa for any player on the other; Tevez, Eto'o, Forlan, Villa, Bent, Malouda, Mancini, Trezeguet, Torres, Owen.....who knows what to think at this point.  I'm trying to sustain some level of objectivity but am failing miserably in the face of my passion for the club, press induced paranoia, a mental hangover from previous transfer window failings and a lack of sleep.  If I'm not in a straight jacket by the time the window closes It'll be a fuckin miracle at this point. Other than that I feel just peachy.

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