Author Topic: That Steve Cohen spreading misinformation again. (Read 6970 times)

NeonPeon · « **on:** April 16, 2007, 06:45:16 PM »

Just happened to be listening on satellite for a second, was hoping to catch 606. Here he is again, the despicable ignorant Chelsea supporting asshole, so close to the anniversary, spreading his misinformation about Hillsborough partly to an american populace that doesn't know any better to challenge it.

This is word for word what was said about the possibility of a MU/LFC final, at 10:16 today PST.

STEVE COHEN: I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT WON’T BE THE, SAY, 30,000, OR 25,000 TICKET HOLDERS THAT GO TO ATHENS WHO ARE GOING TO CAUSE THE--

OTHER GUY: NO, THE VIOLENCE WILL HAPPEN OUTSIDE THE GROUND

STEVE COHEN: I’M GOING TO SAY, I’M GOING TO SAY, IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, THE SAME KIND OF STUFF AS HILLSBOROUGH, WHERE IT WASN’T THE PEOPLE INSIDE THE STADIUM THAT WERE CAUSING TROUBLE, IT WAS THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE STADIUM THAT WERE TRYING TO GET INTO THE STADIUM, WHO WERE EVENTUALLY LET INTO THE STADIUM THAT CAUSED THE TROUBLE. IT WILL BE THE 5 OR 10,000 PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP FROM EACH TEAM OR COLLECTIVELY WITHOUT TICKETS, WHO WILL BE OUT THERE, GETTING DRUNK, LOOKING FOR TROUBLE, AND AT THAT POINT THE REST OF EUROPE WILL HAVE A CLAIM TO MAKE THE REST OF ENGLAND SHOULD BE THROWN OUT OF EUROPE.

The way he conflates separate issues here is dangerous and, particularly around this date, is sickening.

I don't regularly listen to this guy, whats so disturbing is that if I can be listening for all of 5 minutes and hear this, is this what he's spewing constantly?

MattLFC08 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:09:19 PM »

Somebody find me an email address please. Fucking c*nt.

SonOfPiechnik · « **Reply #2 on:** April 16, 2007, 10:12:59 PM »

Absolute waste of oxygen this c*nt...his conduct reminds me of someone, hmmm, who does he sound like to you???

Just goes to show in light of the gestures what weve seen over the weekend-the minutes silences, man city doing their thing, and above all the show of unity by celtic fans recently-that we will always have a mindless minority who poison the minds of uneducated people to fight against.

Even his beloved Chelsea have, on a certain CFC site ive seen somewhere, asked for their fans to show humility and respect for Hillsborough...Which Id like to say was a nice gesture, even from one of our most bitterest of opponents on the pitch.

Its the people like this evil twat who use try to use their twisted opinions as propaganda against us to try and undermine our fight for justice, try as they might, we will continue to shout louder than them! We too can find ways to use the media as a tool to get ourselves heard...

I hope one day he gets his just desserts for the shite he spews, I hope he realises its people like him who continue to hurt the families of those killed and hurt those people who survived, PEOPLE, not just football fans, human beings who are burdened with coping with LIES as well as the losses and traumatic experiences, they went to watch a game of football, and 96 didnt come home, countless more have to carry on and listen to shit like this-though I suspect this particular breed of scum probably doesnt care.

Karma, Mr Cohen, is circular! Inevitibally it all comes back to you in the end!

Rant over, any more and Im likely to smash up me laptop!

JFT96!

A Day 2 Remember · « **Reply #3 on:** April 16, 2007, 10:38:35 PM »

I called the c*nt up today and got on the show. Knowing if I went for his throat he would cut me off, I took a more subtle approach and was able to put them in check. Wish I could have been more agressive with my points but I want to continue calling and educating.

The way the snide bastard as his sidekick spew out the vitriol made my fuckin blood boil. I/m going to get on the show all week and put the ignorant twats in their place.

spen71 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 16, 2007, 10:43:35 PM »

Who the fuck is this wanker? What channel is he on?

SonOfPiechnik · « **Reply #5 on:** April 17, 2007, 12:20:24 AM »

Quote from: A Day 2 Remember on April 16, 2007, 10:38:35 PM

I called the c*nt up today and got on the show. Knowing if I went for his throat he would cut me off, I took a more subtle approach and was able to put them in check. Wish I could have been more agressive with my points but I want to continue calling and educating.

The way the snide bastard as his sidekick spew out the vitriol made my fuckin blood boil. I/m going to get on the show all week and put the ignorant twats in their place.

Dont know how you kept your cool mate, to me hes down there with MacKenzie, it'd be like avin a conversation with the devil himself!

I hope you scrubbed yourself well after that, and gave yourself a stiff drink to help you calm down?!

4pool · « **Reply #6 on:** April 18, 2007, 01:13:01 PM »

For those that do podcasting..his radio show on Sirius satellite is avialable for download.

Someone can post his entire mantra.

His whole mentality is that supporters are responsible for their actions and that when trouble happens it is because of ticketless fans, drunk, cause the problems.

He uses that "out" for every bit of trouble that English supporters get involved in when they play in Europe. He will state it is not the ticketed fans who are the problem. And he uses Hillsborough as his reference point.

Sounds as though his spots haven't changed.

Unfortunately his radio show is self promoted. he owns the company who runs the show. So he won't be firing himself anytime soon. It is also why whomever his sidekick is takes second banana and a subversive roll to whatever Cohen wants to mouth off about.

The next step is to call on all Reds for an boycott campaign both of Fox Soccer Channel and Sirius Radio along with advertisers. I'm not sure how effective that would be for those from outside North America who inevitably would join in. What we need, imho, is a joint effort by all LFC Supporters clubs in the USA to come together for solidarity purposes. if we could get Man Utd and Chelsea supporters to join in because they too have been tarred by the same brush this might help and broaden our boycott.

Ideas anyone?

btw Sirius probably won't care as opinions are free speech. It is advertisers who will care.

anfieldpurch · « **Reply #7 on:** April 18, 2007, 02:04:21 PM »

How the fuck can you keep your cool, when i saw what he had been saying i punched a wall. He's a total tit. Glad to see you spoke to him calmly but my god you must have let some steam off later

NewHampshire_Exile · « **Reply #8 on:** April 18, 2007, 03:58:44 PM »

I’ve been in contact with him a few ties. There was an offer of a show (radio) to discuss Hillsborough and Heysel. He knows that I have permission to represent the HJC view in the States. His main concern is viewing/ listening figures. That’s all he cares about. He wants to use a Hillsborough / Heysel program to promote his own show – especially amongst Liverpool fans.

He hasn’t got back to me about fixing up a show because he doesn’t give a damn – and quite frankly I’m not chasing him if the end result is to promote his show. The opportunity for education and correction of this guys views is limited and not worth it.

I'd just keep on complaining to Fox- if thats all they hear......

Joe_Singh · « **Reply #9 on:** April 18, 2007, 04:24:31 PM »

Just from that transcipt I can tell that he isn't quite sure what the fuck he is on about.

4pool · « **Reply #10 on:** April 18, 2007, 07:10:48 PM »

What transcript?

todda · « **Reply #11 on:** April 19, 2007, 04:01:20 PM »

He's obviously a complete Fuckwit who hasn't the sense he was born with, lets hope Karma does its business and we beat his blue shite and get to Athens in May.

Super MAC · « **Reply #12 on:** April 20, 2007, 12:42:00 AM »

Sorry to go off the subject of this particular gobshite but i need to get this off my chest...ive just been surfing on "You Tube" and did a search on liverpool fc. Came across a video some knob had compiled entitled Liverpool FC\ Who the F*** are Man Utd. The loser who made it puts a picture of a newspaper front page from the munich air disaster with the words "HA HA HA" across it. Appalling as that is you should (or maybe shouldn't) see the comments other viewers have written to accompany it...Mainly illiterate tossers professing to be Man Utd fans coming out with absolute filth about Hillsborough. I know this has happenned before but "You Tube" need to sort this out, it is simply not acceptable in my opinion. Sorry to rant on, just needed to say it.

NeonPeon · « **Reply #13 on:** April 20, 2007, 06:12:51 PM »

Top of the show, again, after the close of 606 at 10 PST today, the first minute before I switch off.

Steve: Um, you know, Liverpool bring up an interesting point to me, you know, I’ve become very sensitive to all this talk of Heysel and Hillsborough, and I’m not going to bring it up, but again, I notice that in almost every other medium that I am exposed to, including fanzone last night, on the fox soccer channel, references by both members of the commentary for the Chelsea-Blackburn game, as to why England clubs were not in Europe for five or six years. Blatant comments in the newspapers, I see it almost everywhere, I see it on, I hear it on sky, I hear it on, um, I hear it on 606, I hear mentions of it all the time. And I am the one that gets ridiculed for it. Hmm, interesting, very very very very interesting.

Yes, you are truly a martyr, you simpleton. Just seperate the two events and issues using the facts of the case, like every other respected media does.

4pool · « **Reply #14 on:** April 22, 2007, 03:52:12 PM »

He's full of shit.

So what if ignorant types spout shit. They aren't part of the media. He is.

And have him prove others in the media are saying the same thing he is either in print or on the air. Only his bezzie mate that was editor of the paper we won't name.

He has a responsibility to tout the facts. He doesn't end of. He touts his opinions and then whinges when he's asked to back them up with facts or fuck off.

His opinions are broadcast on air for other ignorant types to perpetuate similar misinformed "opinions".

Ozzy_Red · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2009, 04:02:20 AM »

I've heard that Hinekein don't want anything to do with him and will drop their sponsorship of Fox Soccer Channel in the US if he isn't sacked, could anyone confirm/deny?

zimmie'5555 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:49:41 PM »

Being hired by ESPN as a pundit apparently.

It's Jimmy Corkhill · « **Reply #17 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:51:43 PM »

Quote from: zimmie'5555 on September 23, 2011, 08:49:41 PM

Being hired by ESPN as a pundit apparently.

Oh dear. Not ESPN here, surely?

MidwestWool · « **Reply #18 on:** September 23, 2011, 09:00:50 PM »

Hopefully, McManaman sticks his boot into this liar.

Chakan · « **Reply #19 on:** September 23, 2011, 09:13:30 PM »

@4pool what do Fox Soccer Channel have to do with Steven Cohen? I though he was booted out of there?

Emlynevermore · « **Reply #20 on:** September 23, 2011, 09:27:01 PM »

Quote from: zimmie'5555 on September 23, 2011, 08:49:41 PM

Being hired by ESPN as a pundit apparently.

Source?

All I can find is the entry on his Wikipedia page stating that he is working for ESPN in an "unnamed" capacity.

SalisburyRed · « **Reply #21 on:** September 23, 2011, 10:01:41 PM »

Quote from: It's Jimmy Corkhill on September 23, 2011, 08:51:43 PM

Oh dear. Not ESPN here, surely?

Doubt it. He's a nobody over here to most people.

zimmie'5555 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 24, 2011, 12:06:44 AM »

Quote from: It's Jimmy Corkhill on September 23, 2011, 08:51:43 PM

Oh dear. Not ESPN here, surely?

USA. There's a thread on the main forum, sure everyone's up to date by now. Time to get writing . . .

jambutty · « **Reply #23 on:** September 24, 2011, 01:16:02 AM »

Quote from: sandiegored on September 23, 2011, 10:54:24 PM

I really think Liverpool needs to move on from Cohen's comments. We can all recognize that his comments on Hillsborough are wrong, and the guy obviously doesn't like Liverpool FC, but as dignified fans of a great, respectful club, we need to approach the situation with dignity. Calling for his head, sending threatening hate mail, and trying to sabotage the rest of his career is not a way to demonstrate the class that Liverpool fans possess. Even though he has apologized for the bluntness of his original comments, Cohen is unlikely ever to completely concede his opinion (albeit a very wrong one). However, in recent times he has shown that he would like to move on from the controversy and has refrained from publicly criticizing Liverpool fans. I really believe the Liverpool community should try to set an example not by threatening the man but by occupying the higher moral ground. There will always be those who disagree with the cause of disasters. I have a good friend who lost family members in the 9/11 attacks, and while there are still people who vocally question the somewhat obvious nature of the attacks, I don't think they should be threatened, shunned, or otherwise hurt for sharing their naivety with the world. I listened to Cohen's old show, and while the few times he commented on Hillsborough were painful, to say that he constantly dwells on this topic is just wrong. If you don't want to hear Cohen, don't listen to or watch him. Lets just not sink to Cohen's level.

Not all our lot are dignified. Some may forgive. Few will forget.

Farmer_Geddon · « **Reply #24 on:** September 25, 2011, 07:46:41 AM »

Quote from: sandiegored on September 24, 2011, 02:03:08 AM

By no means should Liverpool FC have condoned any such comments, or any other club for that matter. However, the threats and hate directed at Cohen by a few "dedicated" fans have only served to make Cohen appear the victim, and Liverpool the bad guy,as opposed to the other way around, which we all know is the truth. I would really hope that Liverpool fans would strive to represent the great history and pride of the club in a positive manner. Cohen's comments were untruthful, uncalled for, and disgraceful, but I truly believe they don't warrant the kind of treatment he has been receiving by many fellow fans. Anyone can throw slogans at a problem, or organize boycotts and hate mail, but it takes class, something I know Liverpool fans have, to truly show who is in the moral right.

The way he went about making his comments, coupled with the vile way in which he made his so called apology is the reason why people reacted so angrily. People like him have been making these type of comments for years and have met the same reaction. Why do you think that is??

As you are obviously well aware the facts of the Hillsborough disaster are not well known in the U.S, so to have an English football pundit spreading such disgusting lies to a largely uneducated audience deserved the reaction it got.

Why wouldn't the American audience believe what he says? They (mostly) don't know what really happened so why wouldn't they trust this so called 'expert on English football'?

I wont defend the alleged death threats, but I will commend the actions of the majority who did whatever it took to out Cohen as a liar and take steps to educate people in the U.S on what REALLY happened at Hillsborough.

Thanks for the advice, but Steven Cohen is a disrespectful liar who shouldn't be 'educating' anyone on football and football culture.

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 2, 2011, 09:43:35 AM »

Quote from: zimmie'5555 on September 23, 2011, 08:49:41 PM

Being hired by ESPN as a pundit apparently.

I emailed ESPN to ask this and their reply was;

"Contrary to earlier reports, Steven Cohen will not be contributing to ESPN."

Lebron · « **Reply #26 on:** October 2, 2011, 02:38:29 PM »

Got the same reply yesterday myself. Brought a smile to the face.

NewHampshire_Exile · « **Reply #27 on:** October 2, 2011, 03:19:20 PM »

Quote from: sandiegored on September 24, 2011, 02:03:08 AM

By no means should Liverpool FC have condoned any such comments, or any other club for that matter. However, the threats and hate directed at Cohen by a few "dedicated" fans have only served to make Cohen appear the victim, and Liverpool the bad guy,as opposed to the other way around, which we all know is the truth. I would really hope that Liverpool fans would strive to represent the great history and pride of the club in a positive manner. Cohen's comments were untruthful, uncalled for, and disgraceful, but I truly believe they don't warrant the kind of treatment he has been receiving by many fellow fans. Anyone can throw slogans at a problem, or organize boycotts and hate mail, but it takes class, something I know Liverpool fans have, to truly show who is in the moral right.

interesting. only 2 posts, both defending Cohen or the treatment of him and you are from California.

so how close to Cohen are you?

Phil M · « **Reply #28 on:** October 2, 2011, 03:25:26 PM »

Quote from: NewHampshire_Exile on October 2, 2011, 03:19:20 PM

interesting. only 2 posts, both defending Cohen or the treatment of him and you are from California.

so how close to Cohen are you?

Indeed, was thinking the very same.

cezred · « **Reply #29 on:** October 3, 2011, 09:57:12 AM »

Quote from: sandiegored on September 23, 2011, 10:54:24 PM

I really think Liverpool needs to move on from Cohen's comments. We can all recognize that his comments on Hillsborough are wrong, and the guy obviously doesn't like Liverpool FC, but as dignified fans of a great, respectful club, we need to approach the situation with dignity. Calling for his head, sending threatening hate mail, and trying to sabotage the rest of his career is not a way to demonstrate the class that Liverpool fans possess. Even though he has apologized for the bluntness of his original comments, Cohen is unlikely ever to completely concede his opinion (albeit a very wrong one). However, in recent times he has shown that he would like to move on from the controversy and has refrained from publicly criticizing Liverpool fans. I really believe the Liverpool community should try to set an example not by threatening the man but by occupying the higher moral ground. There will always be those who disagree with the cause of disasters. I have a good friend who lost family members in the 9/11 attacks, and while there are still people who vocally question the somewhat obvious nature of the attacks, I don't think they should be threatened, shunned, or otherwise hurt for sharing their naivety with the world. I listened to Cohen's old show, and while the few times he commented on Hillsborough were painful, to say that he constantly dwells on this topic is just wrong. If you don't want to hear Cohen, don't listen to or watch him. Lets just not sink to Cohen's level.

Hi Steve

NewHampshire_Exile · « **Reply #30 on:** December 29, 2011, 08:50:42 PM »

He's on twitter as @evenewtonjobs
in case anyone wants to keep an eye on him. oh and Hillsborough is "Ancient history" to him.

subsy · « **Reply #31 on:** March 23, 2012, 10:52:53 AM »

Quote from: Farmer_Geddon on September 25, 2011, 07:46:41 AM

As you are obviously well aware the facts of the Hillsborough disaster are not well known in the U.S, so to have an English football pundit spreading such disgusting lies to a largely uneducated audience deserved the reaction it got.

Why wouldn't the American audience believe what he says? They (mostly) don't know what really happened so why wouldn't they trust this so called 'expert on English football'?

Exactly - in that way its a direct parallel of the lies from that paper - people without better sources of information believed what was said

subsy · « **Reply #32 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:06:44 AM »

I thought that I'd check out his twitter page, and unfortunately his latest post reads:

Quote

@PremierLgBoston No you get it wrong yet again. Cobain - suicide, JFK-Lee Harvey Oswald. Heysel & Hillsborough-LFC fans. Very simple really.

I feel sick.

exiledintheusa · « **Reply #33 on:** March 23, 2012, 10:52:39 PM »

Quote from: subsy on March 23, 2012, 11:06:44 AM

I thought that I'd check out his twitter page, and unfortunately his latest post reads:

I feel sick.

It's easier to let him die his own death fella. He is an ubber-c*nt, we know it, real football fans know it and most of the US educated 'soccer' community knows it.

Semi Skimmed · « **Reply #34 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:00:05 PM »

Quote from: exiledintheusa on March 23, 2012, 10:52:39 PM

It's easier to let him die his own death fella. He is an ubber-c*nt, we know it, real football fans know it and most of the US educated 'soccer' community knows it.

Looks like it's gonna be hard mate. The c*nt says he's releasing a book on it, an how Liverpool conspired to make sure the truth didn't come out. 'JFT135' he put at the end of one tweet.

Vile fucking weasel.

Circa1892 · « **Reply #35 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:06:18 PM »

Just read his twitter feed. What a disgusting, hateful man.

I assume this book of his will never see the light of day.

Liamski-la · « **Reply #36 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:09:09 PM »

I know its hard because he is so unbelievably disrespectful but to give him any sort of coverage is to do exactly what he wants because the more folks that want to try to challenge his opinion the more publicity he will get. Its no coincidence that he is talking about his book being released is it?

Fucking let him get on with it. He's a fucking nobody.

exiledintheusa · « **Reply #37 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:09:49 PM »

Quote from: Semi Skimmed on March 23, 2012, 11:00:05 PM

Looks like it's gonna be hard mate. The c*nt says he's releasing a book on it, an how Liverpool conspired to make sure the truth didn't come out. 'JFT135' he put at the end of one tweet.

Vile fucking weasel.

That book won't see the light of day mate, he is just a vile, un-important c*nt.

Chakan · « **Reply #38 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:11:36 PM »

Quote from: exiledintheusa on March 23, 2012, 11:09:49 PM

That book won't see the light of day mate, he is just a vile, un-important c*nt.

He would have to publish it himself and any distributor that would dare peddle it would get a whole bunch of emails informing them of what exactly they are distributing and how exactly that would affect their business, just like we did when he was on the radio and his sponsors.

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:18:28 PM »

Quote from: Chakan on March 23, 2012, 11:11:36 PM

He would have to publish it himself and any distributor that would dare peddle it would get a whole bunch of emails informing them of what exactly they are distributing and how exactly that would affect their business, just like we did when he was on the radio and his sponsors.

Not to mention how all the copies on the shelf will have pages torn out and books spoiled and made unfit for sale.

As if anyone would.