Topic: Jamie Carragher Mystery

[USgooner]

How the fuck is he not England regular is beyond me. Not far behind Terry but much much better then Rio.  is scandalous.

Correct me if am wrong but every time I watch Liverpool he seems more important player to the team then Gerrard is.

PS: How many cap has he got for England.

He was Fucking awesome tonight.

[Paddy_Fowler]

Fully agree!

[Enders]

Carra will always be regarded as a utility player for England, who can come in and plug a gap in the absence of the *cough* world class Ferdinand or Woodgate. Suits us fine - the less games he plays for that bunch of overpaid, overrated yobs with their shite 'fans' who boo players for being tall England the better.

[Gnurglan]

Agree that Carra should be a regular. He's very reliable and consistent.

My guess: people in charge rate Terry higher than Carra and they think Rio is better on the ball than Carra.

[Something Else]

I agree, he is one of the best defenders in the world, he goes about his job wuietly however, and is not a media whore so maybe not the glamorous face that the fa want for their advertisers

[Red_Isle_Chap]

Carra will always be regarded as a utility player for England, who can come in and plug a gap. Suits us fine - the less games he plays for that bunch of overpaid, overrated yobs with their shite 'fans' who boo players for being tall England the better.

Couldn't agree more. Of course, I am Welsh and would hate to see England actually start doing well.....LOL!!

[Tim-Cross]

Tonight was the night that Carra made it into my all time Liverpool 11.

What a display

[woof]

McLaren prefers the 'glamour' of Terry and Rio. Sure, Terry can score goals and Rio is more stylish but no one commands the backline like Carra and his no-nonsense play is the reason Liverpool have kept record clean sheets

[cjmclean]

But as a centr back, no english player snuff out danger better than Carra

[Alonso_The_Assassin]

Fully agree. He's better than Thug Ferdinand! He - and Agger - We're immense tonight!!

[SpionBob]

I've been saying the same thing for the last 3 seasons. Should be him and Terry first choice centre backs for England. Thing about Carra is-he's so switched on and his concentration is incredible. The guy will be a Liverpool manager of the future.

[Enders]

He was in mine after going down with cramp and making those 2 clearances in Istanbul.

[Rafas_Barmy_Army]

I agree fully but i would rather he didnt play for England and avoid stupid traveling and possible injury. Thta applys to all our English lads

[Don Vito Corleone]

How the fuck is he not England regular is beyond me. Not far behind Terry but much much better then Rio.  is scandalous.

Correct me if am wrong but every time I watch Liverpool he seems more important player to the team then Gerrard is.

PS: How many cap has he got for England.

He was Fucking awesome tonight.

I actually think its the other way around, Rio for me is a far more accomplished defender than Mongo, who looks paticulary good in a system that suits him, and obviously he stands out because he scores the odd goal.

You may or may not notice that Terry doesnt look have as commanding when playing for Ingurland.

And as far as Carra is concerned, don't give a fuck about his England cap count, but when the shit hits the fan, i'd have him above the other two mentioned every time.

[joeb090]

yep the england team would be a much better team with carra in it

[StormyDog]

How the fuck is he not England regular is beyond me. Not far behind Terry but much much better then Rio.  is scandalous.

Correct me if am wrong but every time I watch Liverpool he seems more important player to the team then Gerrard is.

PS: How many cap has he got for England.

He was Fucking awesome tonight.

He's not an England Inter 'cause Terry, simple as that.
Now Terry's captain, Carra might as well retire from international football.

[cakmin]

Carra has no friends in the capital's medias. That tells you all you wanted to know

[BazC]

Agree that Carra should be a regular. He's very reliable and consistent.

My guess: people in charge rate Terry higher than Carra and they think Rio is better on the ball than Carra.

Carra's a better defender than both- no nonsense, fucking have it you c*nt typa defending. Terry though scores more goals, is good in the air and is now the captain. He will not be relinquishing his place. ferdinand IS better on the ball than Carra, but that's about the only thing he is better than Carra at- defensively there's no contest. But because he's not a shite defender and is good on the ball it's why he plays- like you say. Think of Agger's calmness on the ball and how much of an asset it is to our game now. Same shit. Carra should be in ahead of Terry or Ferdinand, but you can see why they're being picked ahead of him.

Anyway, I'd rather have Carra staying away from England- don't want him getting injured on England duty, he's too damn important to us.

[GinKop]

Carra will always be regarded as a utility player for England, who can come in and plug a gap in the absence of the *cough* world class Ferdinand or Woodgate. Suits us fine - the less games he plays for that bunch of overpaid, overrated yobs with their shite 'fans' who boo players for being tall England the better.

Here fucking here. All I'm interested in is Liverpool, and he is a trojan for us. Rio can stay in the England team for all I care, and get sniped like he does after every lacklustre performance he puts in.

Nice to see Carra get some more appreciation though, not that he craves it though.

[ˇBasta Ya!]

Carra and Terry would be a bad partnership to be honest. Terry isn't half as good as people think. committed though.

The less he plays the better for me, same with Gerrard.

[Enders]

McLaren prefers the 'glamour' of Terry and Rio. Sure, Terry can score goals and Rio is more stylish but no one commands the backline like Carra and his no-nonsense play is the reason Liverpool have kept record clean sheets

That's what I don't get. Carra and Terry are a perfect centre back partnership - Carra sweeps while Terry attacks the ball. Ferdinand is no better defensively, offers little threat from set pieces, and is prone to snorting cocaine lapses in concentration which can be very costly at the highest level. When was the last time he scored for England or was even involved in the build-up to a goal?

[USgooner]

He's not an England Inter 'cause Terry, simple as that.
Now Terry's captain, Carra might as well retire from international football.

But surly he is much better then 'Lazy' Rio, I mean even blind person will tell you that.

[banistmi]

and long may he continue to be ours and not englands.
Ask Newcastle fans how much they wish Owen was overlooked for the world cup.

[xavidub]

No offence to Carra but I hope he never plays for England again. Same goes for Gerrard, Pennant and also for internationals from other countries.

[StormyDog]

But surly he is much better then 'Lazy' Rio, I mean even blind person will tell you that.

Rio is quick and has superior ball skills (allegedly).
Even though in my opinion he's a lazy tosser who doesn't turn up in the lower level games (ie all of the WC last summer and many qualifying games).

[ˇBasta Ya!]

But surly he is much better then 'Lazy' Rio, I mean even blind person will tell you that.

It's about the right type of player mate, not specific players - Rio and Terry go together better than terry and carra. It's a choice between Terry and Carra - I would pick carra, but that's me.

Carra and Agger are such a good duo because they are well suited.

[Commie Bobbie]

He plays for an international side...

It's called Liverpool FC.

[SpionBob]

My view is that he's a Franco Baresi/Bobby Moore type who reads the game and gets himself in the right position rather than relying on vast pace (Ferdinand) and on saving tackles (Traore). I reckon he could be a regular until he's in his late 30's (ala Maldini).

[rushyman]

England is one big frat house. If your face doesnt fit it doesnt fit.

Fuck it, let Ferdinand continue to be a liability

[bert20]

Terry and Rio are better players. Not a popular opinion but it's the right one.

Carra can dive in to tackles with passion and is the best in the world when you're up against it but overall, Terry and Rio are better centre backs and it's as simple as that. It's the same reason Pennant isn't in the England squad - he's not as good as the other players.

[Something Else]

Terry and Rio are better players. Not a popular opinion but it's the right one.

Carra can dive in to tackles with passion and is the best in the world when you're up against it but overall, Terry and Rio are better centre backs and it's as simple as that. It's the same reason Pennant isn't in the England squad - he's not as good as the other players.

you comparrison with pennant gives this arguement no credability at all

[Enders]

Terry and Rio are better players. Not a popular opinion but it's the right one.

Carra can dive in to tackles with passion and is the best in the world when you're up against it but overall, Terry and Rio are better centre backs and it's as simple as that. It's the same reason Pennant isn't in the England squad - he's not as good as the other players.

Absolute rubbish. Just ask Ronaldinho

[StormyDog]

Terry and Rio are better players. Not a popular opinion but it's the right one.

Carra can dive in to tackles with passion and is the best in the world when you're up against it but overall, Terry and Rio are better centre backs and it's as simple as that. It's the same reason Pennant isn't in the England squad - he's not as good as the other players.

No. Carra is better than Terry & Rio as a defender in Europe. Rio has achieved nothing in European football, in fact he's been a liability on more than one occasion.

Rio is better when attacking but England could do with at least one specialized defender who doesn't leave his post every time we get and attacking set piece to help plug its leaking defense.

[kingluisgarcia]

Gerarrd or Carra?

No contest.

[steb31]

I wouldn't swap Carra for any other centre back in the world, and not just because we'd never find anyone else with the passion he's got for us. If anyone can show me a better defender in the world I'd like to see him.

It's a long-running joke how he's not in the England team. Maybe when we don't qualify for Euro 2008 because of defensive errors and McClaren gets sacked, the next manager will be clever enough to pick him.

As it is, I, like most others, don't care as long as he keeps playin like he is for the Redmen. An absolute colossus who deserves every accolade he receives.

[Don Vito Corleone]

I'll say this though, and i say this having Italian blood

If Carra was Italian he'd be talked about in similar tones as Cannavaro

[shoelesswonder]

Fuck England, save him for the only team that matters.

[BazC]

I'll say this though, and i say this having Italian blood

If Carra was Italian he'd be talked about in similar tones as Cannavaro

Italian... or Scicilian? 

[nidgemo]

you comparrison with pennant gives this arguement no credability at all

To be honest, his assertion that Rio was better than Carra had already used up all his credibility long before he got to the pennant point...

[Bronx Red]

At international leval group stages, at least three  teams are shit compared to England, so ball players will be prefered. But IMHO when they play the top teams in a group where its either way Carra shoud be the first CB on the team sheet.