Author Topic: US Support Growing? (Read 6668 times)

paul_ocon · « **Reply #40 on:** July 20, 2006, 11:22:03 AM »

Quote from: bryanodowd on July 19, 2006, 10:02:03 PM

sorry but i just found that funny as fuck

Second that, grinned the whole way true it

Hunts Cross · « **Reply #41 on:** July 20, 2006, 11:28:50 AM »

He's a bit of a tit and wrong on several counts. On the city thing, the US city most like Liverpool is Philadelphia, not Boston.

Faded port, lost industry, working class, neighbouring city become more 'successful' re commerce, growth, unmatched passion for sport....oh yes, its Philly.

ksparks063 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 20, 2006, 12:29:52 PM »

Quote from: Hunts Cross on July 20, 2006, 11:28:50 AM

He's a bit of a tit and wrong on several counts. On the city thing, the US city most like Liverpool is Philadelphia, not Boston.

Faded port, lost industry, working class, neighbouring city become more 'successful' re commerce, growth, unmatched passion for sport....oh yes, its Philly.

i thought it was a great article, as an american i understood all the references, and hes just trying to make football easier for americans to understand. and as for the american city most like liverpool, Philly is a good choice, or maybe Detroit too.

ksparks063 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 20, 2006, 12:58:16 PM »

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=EPL/fans/chelsea

this is the link to read the emails of the Cheaski fans who wanted him to pick chelsea as his team... pretty funny

shangtsung · « **Reply #44 on:** July 20, 2006, 02:27:55 PM »

to be honest i cannot stand american football fans. it just infuriates me when they talk about the beautiful game.

"and here's the wide runner Gonzalez in the left zone quadrant. he's made a great pass to Crouch in the 2 metre box, and Liverpool score a point!"

Blah..if it was up to americans, each goal would be worth 3 points, the pitch would be smaller, and the goals bigger.

ksparks063 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 20, 2006, 02:34:20 PM »

Quote from: shangtsung on July 20, 2006, 02:27:55 PM

to be honest i cannot stand american football fans. it just infuriates me when they talk about the beautiful game.

"and here's the wide runner Gonzalez in the left zone quadrant. he's made a great pass to Crouch in the 2 metre box, and Liverpool score a point!"

Blah..if it was up to americans, each goal would be worth 3 points, the pitch would be smaller, and the goals bigger.

with some beautiful american cheerleaders on the side... the liverbirds???

i'll find my own way out

Xembla · « **Reply #46 on:** July 20, 2006, 02:55:18 PM »

Please don't resent American fans! It's hard enough in the face of total indifference around here (i live in a small midwest town), but being treated like a poser from other fans would be too much! We believe, we do! And this guy is maybe not a good American example, after all.

I did think it was funny, and the comparisons were stretched or inappropriate, but it had some moments. And now I have another reason to root against Spurs.

But if Liverpool has to have an American cousin, please, God, no, anywhere but Detroit! Boston is okay with me, Philly is less okay, but Detroit is right out.

Oh, and Carslberg _does not_ suck. I like it a lot, actually.

xembla
(glad to be aboard the forum)

SteeleRED · « **Reply #47 on:** July 20, 2006, 02:56:47 PM »

Quote from: shangtsung on July 20, 2006, 02:27:55 PM

to be honest i cannot stand american football fans. it just infuriates me when they talk about the beautiful game.

"and here's the wide runner Gonzalez in the left zone quadrant. he's made a great pass to Crouch in the 2 metre box, and Liverpool score a point!"

Blah..if it was up to americans, each goal would be worth 3 points, the pitch would be smaller, and the goals bigger.

Quote from: ksparks063 on July 20, 2006, 02:34:20 PM

with some beautiful american cheerleaders on the side... the liverbirds???

i'll find my own way out

You know, I heard a prominent sports talk guy here in the States compare NASCAR fans and football fans this way: when a "nonbeliever" tells a NASCAR fan he doesn't like NASCAR, the NASCAR fan goes out of his way to help the nonbeliever understand why he's so passionate, and invites the nonbeliever to "check it out with me just once", then patiently explains his sport and his passion for it, so the nonbeliever might be won over.
The "nonbeliever" who talks to a football fan is told to "F*** off!", that he'll "never get it", and there's no need to try to explain to a nonbeliever why they should be a believer.

With asinine comments like the two I just quoted, is it any reason that so many Americans would be put off by football's "fans"?

If you two think Americans "just don't understand the beautiful game", then why not try to help them "find the love", instead of ridiculing them for their lack of knowledge? Afraid we might "steal" your game?

ksparks063 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:00:23 PM »

*cough* SteeleRED im from Detroit... it was a joke.

and besides, who cares... you know you love liverpool, you dont need other peoples approval, there are lots of people on this site that encourage people not from liverpool to fall in love with the team. its not hard to do. the worst thing people can do is take offence to it, were all fans of the same team here.

SteeleRED · « **Reply #49 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:12:54 PM »

Quote from: ksparks063 on July 20, 2006, 03:00:23 PM

*cough* SteeleRED im from Detroit... it was a joke.

and besides, who cares... you know you love liverpool, you dont need other peoples approval, there are lots of people on this site that encourage people not from liverpool to fall in love with the team. its not hard to do. the worst thing people can do is take offence to it, were all fans of the same team here.

Missed that one!

Checked out several other profiles today to see who's from where (and when I might be the "victim" of a wind-up), and forgot to check yours! Looks like I fell for it!

americanscouser · « **Reply #50 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:16:29 PM »

Quote from: shangtsung on July 20, 2006, 02:27:55 PM

to be honest i cannot stand american football fans. it just infuriates me when they talk about the beautiful game.

"and here's the wide runner Gonzalez in the left zone quadrant. he's made a great pass to Crouch in the 2 metre box, and Liverpool score a point!"

Blah..if it was up to americans, each goal would be worth 3 points, the pitch would be smaller, and the goals bigger.

good to see you are able to generalize an entire culture of people with a ridiculous comment like that.

i'd like to see you announce a baseball game and then watch us take the piss out of you.

Danny Boys Dad · « **Reply #51 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:20:57 PM »

Quote from: americanscouser on July 20, 2006, 03:16:29 PM

i'd like to see you announce a baseball game and then watch us take the piss out of you.

Big man with the ball, throws it to another big man, big man running now, throws it to another big man, big man jumps! Scores! Big man with the ball, throws it to another big man, big man running now, throws it to another big man, big man jumps! Scores! Big man with the ball........

being sven · « **Reply #52 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:22:50 PM »

Quote from: shangtsung on July 20, 2006, 02:27:55 PM

to be honest i cannot stand american football fans. it just infuriates me when they talk about the beautiful game.

"and here's the wide runner Gonzalez in the left zone quadrant. he's made a great pass to Crouch in the 2 metre box, and Liverpool score a point!"

Blah..if it was up to americans, each goal would be worth 3 points, the pitch would be smaller, and the goals bigger.

Fuck off. As an American fan, who grew up with the game, I find your ignorance of American sporting culture nearly as ignorant as most American's knowledge of the Premiership.

While it's quite true that the game takes a back seat here for most Americans, there are literally millions of us who know (and play) the game inside out (and quite possibly better than you), so to simply lump us in with the masses is asinine.

quadrant? wide runner? nobody talks anything like that here.... not even close.

ass.

Boston_Red · « **Reply #53 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:27:36 PM »

The whole point of the ESPN article was for fun, 'picking' a team holds no merit in my world, the article was silly. The point of my original post was to not bash on American football fans. It's point was to highlight something I am so proud to be a part and to expose what Liverpool means to me to those people (mainly friends and family) who do not understand my facination with the sport, the people, and lifestyle. The writer's (Bill Simmons) weekly articles are read by millions of American sports fans who enjoy a good laugh...this was to me a great way to expose my passion.

americanscouser · « **Reply #54 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:30:34 PM »

Quote from: Danny Boys Dad on July 20, 2006, 03:20:57 PM

Big man with the ball, throws it to another big man, big man running now, throws it to another big man, big man jumps! Scores! Big man with the ball, throws it to another big man, big man running now, throws it to another big man, big man jumps! Scores! Big man with the ball........

wrong sport, but the effort was solid

now here comes the 3-2 pitch...

Danny Boys Dad · « **Reply #55 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:31:25 PM »

Quote from: americanscouser on July 20, 2006, 03:30:34 PM

wrong sport, but the effort was solid now here comes the 3-2 pitch...

Damn, read that as basketball not baseball. Damn these contact lenses

being sven · « **Reply #56 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:32:29 PM »

The problem is your original point became a stage upon which to take lame and unintelligent swipes at American fans.

Not your fault, but...

americanscouser · « **Reply #57 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:34:03 PM »

Quote from: Danny Boys Dad on July 20, 2006, 03:31:25 PM

Damn, read that as basketball not baseball. Damn these contact lenses

gotta add a random little white fella into the mix in that basketball commentary though

potatomato33 · « **Reply #58 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:49:33 PM »

They're always the 3 point shooters...

On another note, I have yet to see another Liverpool jersey out on the streets of NYC (minus the match days when they show them at the pubs). I see the Mancs, Gooners, Juve, Real, both Milans, and even Chelsea, but never Liverpool. Why? Because they don't sell the jerseys at the Niketown or the Adidas megastores. Which I feel, is a good thing. I don't want the LFC image to become a fashion statement, rather than a football statement. Once the Adidas kit comes out though, it'll all be over...

Also, I'd like to see any football club try to make up the volume of sales the OOT and foreign fans make by just sticking with local fans. Or wake up at 7am to watch grainy streams off a crappy Chinese satallite feed on PPLive. Or better yet, how about you try to support the New York Red Bulls. Yea, thought so. (Yes, that was a dig at someone from page 1.)

MR · « **Reply #59 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:54:12 PM »

Quote from: bryanodowd on July 19, 2006, 10:02:03 PM

sorry but i just found that funny as fuck

Yeah, me too. Who cares if he didn't know what he was talking about - bloody funny and best of luck to him.

Just stop calling it "the EPL", please

Immoral King Brian Blessed · « **Reply #60 on:** July 20, 2006, 04:00:04 PM »

American fans are fine. I'll talk football with anyone, whether they be an expert or a novice seeking info. What I do dislike are the ESPN commentators who do tend to use american sports terms. I consider that pandering, and don;t agree with it. I also think they're underestimating their audience.

But then again, maybe not. When you see statements like, 'we reached the quarters in 02, so should be the semis in 06, and win it in 2010.' It simply doesn't work like that.

Slick_Beef · « **Reply #61 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:23:46 PM »

Thought that was a good laugh. I think some people are taking it too seriously! I'd welcome any american fans as long as they wern't glory hunters, in the same way I do with English fans.

IloveGuinness17 · « **Reply #62 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:35:09 PM »

I'll admit the article was clever, but after I have seen articles like that for 1,000th time it gets old fast and it becomes a bad joke.

Lee J · « **Reply #63 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:35:49 PM »

Quote from: shangtsung on July 20, 2006, 02:27:55 PM

to be honest i cannot stand american football fans. it just infuriates me when they talk about the beautiful game.

"and here's the wide runner Gonzalez in the left zone quadrant. he's made a great pass to Crouch in the 2 metre box, and Liverpool score a point!"

I was in Boston during a few of the World Cup games and watched a few in bars and in the hotel, the US commentary was pretty good. Only once or twice did anything strange get said, and more than once the commentators came up with something actually insightful and interesting, which is more than can be said for Lawrenson, Motty et al.

I had one waitress ask me what we were "Champions of Europe" for when she read my T-Shirt, so I explained for "soccer". She was from Romania btw

Garstonite · « **Reply #64 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:54:23 PM »

I love The Liverpool Redsox. They rock. Woohoo! I know all there is to know about soccer. The quarterback AKA the "goalie" is the only person allowed to play basketball. If anyone else does, they get sent to a permanent sinbin and is forced to join the army, hence the term "given his marching orders". The managers are only allowed one "time out" in between the 2nd and 3rd quarter.

I always wondered what the 4-4-2 meant. I eventually found it was a formation. It's difficult to explain but basically it's this: the goalie is the first base, the defenders are the second base, midfielders are 3rd and strikers 4th. You have to go through eacg base to score a touchdown. If you go from base 1 to 4, it's not illegal but it's frowned upon, hence the reason why the audience shout "HOOF" which I presume is a bad thing.

See you guys!

americanscouser · « **Reply #65 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:05:36 PM »

very disappointing there gars... no NASCAR reference? nothing about pit stops, checkered flags, cautions?

Garstonite · « **Reply #66 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:06:39 PM »

Quote from: americanscouser on July 20, 2006, 06:05:36 PM

very disappointing there gars... no NASCAR reference? nothing about pit stops, checkered flags, cautions?

I've got to leave something for my book.

4pool · « **Reply #67 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:12:30 PM »

I took someone from Belgium to a minor league Baseball game ( Louisville Cardinals). He had partially seen a little bit on tv in Europe but thought the game "strange" and boring. Until he went and had some of us explaining to him what was going on. And even some around us would help explain the nuances of the game and were happy to talk to someone from Belgium about baseball.

When I talk to someone about "soccer" in the USA the usual questions come about:

What about hooliganism? ( that we keep hearing about)

What about Racism? ( that we heard about on the sports news)

It's all well and good to whinge about Americans and their lack of knowledge but even the writer of the article mentioned he didn't want to be around hooliganism.

Until FIFA and UEFA really get serious and have massive fines for clubs and their League FA's or kick them out of competitions all together..hooliganism and racism will continue.

You can go to any American sport and you won't here "chants" at blacks. You'll have the supporters mixed around the stadium and no problems between supporters.

It would be nice if one could go to a "soccer" match worldwide and have the same. But the "culture" of the sport prevents this. Which perpetuates some of the problems that get highlighted in the sports news.

There are loads of families whose kids play the game in the States. And anyone going to a match here in the USA has the same experience as they would with other American sports ( no racism, mixed supporters). Soccer will continue to grow at a slow pace here. But "football" kicks itself in the shin when they do not address some fundemental issues that effect all supporters (and players) who are just--after all-- going to a match to support their side..and shouldn't be there for any other reason.

ConnieLFC · « **Reply #68 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:16:58 PM »

Quote from: fluffy_bunny on July 20, 2006, 03:49:33 PM

On another note, I have yet to see another Liverpool jersey out on the streets of NYC (minus the match days when they show them at the pubs). I see the Mancs, Gooners, Juve, Real, both Milans, and even Chelsea, but never Liverpool. Why? Because they don't sell the jerseys at the Niketown or the Adidas megastores. Which I feel, is a good thing. I don't want the LFC image to become a fashion statement, rather than a football statement. Once the Adidas kit comes out though, it'll all be over...

Come to Brooklyn, Fluffy - I wear an LFC-related shirt practically every weekend! Not sure why it's a good thing the shirts aren't available - more money in the coffers... And while I understand what you mean about fashion statement vs football statement, I'm sure there are fellas who look at me thinking I just "jumped on the bandwagon" and I've been supporting the Reds for 10 years now. When I see someone else in a LFC shirt, I find any excuse to strike up a conversation and I've had others do exactly the same when they've seen me in one. The more the merrier!

As for places to buy them, there's always been The Onion Bag online (which most NYers know about). It's always sold a fair amount of LFC items, despite its owner Iain being a Bluenose...

Quote from: 4pool

There are loads of families whose kids play the game in the States. And anyone going to a match here in the USA has the same experience as they would with other American sports ( no racism, mixed supporters). Soccer will continue to grow at a slow pace here. But "football" kicks itself in the shin when they do not address some fundemental issues that effect all supporters (and players) who are just--after all-- going to a match to support their side..and shouldn't be there for any other reason.

4pool, I know what you're saying, but (and not to take things too off-topic here) these same "soccer families" play in suburbs, where the sport is kept "whiter than white" shall we say. And I don't think you could argue that the current Barry Bonds witchhunt doesn't have a racial/-ist element to it? Or the infamous Pacers/Pistons brawl a couple of years ago? I don't think American sports have done that great a job either - fans ain't that much more enlighted, it's just that widespread integration has forced people to keep their mouths shut (for the most part).

bryanod · « **Reply #69 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:22:53 PM »

Quote from: fluffy_bunny on July 20, 2006, 03:49:33 PM

On another note, I have yet to see another Liverpool jersey out on the streets of NYC (minus the match days when they show them at the pubs). I see the Mancs, Gooners, Juve, Real, both Milans, and even Chelsea, but never Liverpool. Why? Because they don't sell the jerseys at the Niketown or the Adidas megastores. Which I feel, is a good thing. I don't want the LFC image to become a fashion statement, rather than a football statement. Once the Adidas kit comes out though, it'll all be over...

I remember sitting at the subway stop at columbus college last summer heading down to 11th st for a game in my 84 retro t-shirt...what should i spot walking towards me but another red!

struck up conversation straight away all the way down to the bar and during the game. seeing them when so few and far between makes an instant connection, I agree with Connie on that one....plus think of the revenues if more people wear them..maybe that could be the extra 2m or so needed for alves

afc turkish · « **Reply #70 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:41:55 PM »

Quote from: Garstonite on July 20, 2006, 05:54:23 PM

I love The Liverpool Redsox. They rock. Woohoo! I know all there is to know about soccer. The quarterback AKA the "goalie" is the only person allowed to play basketball. If anyone else does, they get sent to a permanent sinbin and is forced to join the army, hence the term "given his marching orders". The managers are only allowed one "time out" in between the 2nd and 3rd quarter.

I always wondered what the 4-4-2 meant. I eventually found it was a formation. It's difficult to explain but basically it's this: the goalie is the first base, the defenders are the second base, midfielders are 3rd and strikers 4th. You have to go through eacg base to score a touchdown. If you go from base 1 to 4, it's not illegal but it's frowned upon, hence the reason why the audience shout "HOOF" which I presume is a bad thing.

See you guys!

jimmy d · « **Reply #71 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:47:53 PM »

Quote from: fluffy_bunny on July 20, 2006, 03:49:33 PM

They're always the 3 point shooters...

On another note, I have yet to see another Liverpool jersey out on the streets of NYC (minus the match days when they show them at the pubs). I see the Mancs, Gooners, Juve, Real, both Milans, and even Chelsea, but never Liverpool. Why? Because they don't sell the jerseys at the Niketown or the Adidas megastores. Which I feel, is a good thing. I don't want the LFC image to become a fashion statement, rather than a football statement. Once the Adidas kit comes out though, it'll all be over...

Also, I'd like to see any football club try to make up the volume of sales the OOT and foreign fans make by just sticking with local fans. Or wake up at 7am to watch grainy streams off a crappy Chinese satallite feed on PPLive. Or better yet, how about you try to support the New York Red Bulls. Yea, thought so. (Yes, that was a dig at someone from page 1.)

maybe a good thing for you, but not for the club. the one thing that always gets me is.. why are we the most successfull club in britain, who has never cashed in on that fact. while we play games in crewe and wrexham (although im as proud as fcuk that its made them teams money and thats why we done it) ushited, Chelsea. arseholes, continue to make the most out of the foreign market.

in the nineties, ushited had a catalogue the same size as littlewoods, our club shop was still a mobile home. even today, you go online and the merchandise is so limited.

i believe thats where we fcuked up. we should of made our killing when we were winning the league year in/year out. granted that the world was different then, but ushited seemed to grasp this concept only a few years after we won our last bit of "bread and butter".(shanks)

im based in thailand, they have an official website. this is a country where the more original clothing/electronics you have the higher you belong in society. why the fcuk havent we cashed in on that fact. when ushited and Chelsea are opening more shops than 7/11.

it fucking baffles me, as for yanks supporting the red men, crack on dude!

NYCRedsFan · « **Reply #72 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:57:23 PM »

Quote from: ksparks063 on July 20, 2006, 12:29:52 PM

i thought it was a great article, as an american i understood all the references, and hes just trying to make football easier for americans to understand. and as for the american city most like liverpool, Philly is a good choice, or maybe Detroit too.

After starting to read this thread, I decided to read ALL the posts in this thread BEFORE reading the ESPN article, just to get a total sense of what posters' opinions were. Now, having read the ESPN piece, he's clearly writing this tongue in cheek and is more in humor than "fact".

Aside -> having been a LFC fan since the 70's, when I started watching hour-long summarizations of English Soccer on a show called Star Soccer (sorry for the reference to all purists) on PBS (U.S. Public Televison), I can humbly but clearly state that I am well versed in both US sports and the "culture" of football, especially the Premiership. I was a season ticket holder for the NY Cosmos. (Pele, Beckenbauer, etc) No doubt being an avid reader of RAWK has bolstered my education to a large degree.

What I found truthful in Simmons' piece is that there is a definite lack of passion at most live US events. The use of "computer generated" noise and music to pump up the fans is annoying and frankly irritates the hell out of me. What has ALWAYS attracted me to football in general and LFC as a fan for almost 30 years is history, the culture, and the "Liverpool Way" which closely resembles my orgins in Brooklyn NY (as mentioned earlier; port city, decreasing industry, working class, and allegedly a poor cousin in comparison to Manhattan). The concept of singing through an entire match is totally foreign to the vast majority of American sports fans, sad to say. My dream is to join most of you in the KOP one day and experience first hand what I can only get as a poor substitute through the television. My friends and most of my family just don't "get it" when I mention that I'm off to the pub to watch the match, and don't understand the culture (their loss).

However, when LFC fans gather in NY, (as ConnieLFC can attest) we cheer and we sing YNWA as loud as anyone, even though you can't hear us

tq · « **Reply #73 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:17:30 PM »

Quote from: fluffy_bunny on July 20, 2006, 03:49:33 PM

On another note, I have yet to see another Liverpool jersey out on the streets of NYC (minus the match days when they show them at the pubs). I see the Mancs, Gooners, Juve, Real, both Milans, and even Chelsea, but never Liverpool. Why? Because they don't sell the jerseys at the Niketown or the Adidas megastores. Which I feel, is a good thing. I don't want the LFC image to become a fashion statement, rather than a football statement. Once the Adidas kit comes out though, it'll all be over...

Also, I'd like to see any football club try to make up the volume of sales the OOT and foreign fans make by just sticking with local fans. Or wake up at 7am to watch grainy streams off a crappy Chinese satallite feed on PPLive. Or better yet, how about you try to support the New York Red Bulls. Yea, thought so. (Yes, that was a dig at someone from page 1.)

It makes me sad that I've started to see a ton of Chelsea supporters here (chicago) over the past two years. The Chelsea bandwagon is definitely ramping up, and them playing the MLS all-star game won't help. Ah well. I've turned a few people on to lfc (right now one of my friends is in danger of becoming a manc, since he watched most of the world cup with one of my other friends who's a manc, but I'll show him the error of his ways when the epl starts up again).

NYCRedsFan · « **Reply #74 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:25:11 PM »

Quote from: fluffy_bunny on July 20, 2006, 03:49:33 PM

They're always the 3 point shooters...

On another note, I have yet to see another Liverpool jersey out on the streets of NYC (minus the match days when they show them at the pubs). I see the Mancs, Gooners, Juve, Real, both Milans, and even Chelsea, but never Liverpool. Why? Because they don't sell the jerseys at the Niketown or the Adidas megastores. Which I feel, is a good thing. I don't want the LFC image to become a fashion statement, rather than a football statement. Once the Adidas kit comes out though, it'll all be over...

Although, I AM hoping the Adidas megastore on Broadway and Houston starts to carry LFC apparel when it's finally released. Cut down on the wait and shipping charges.

And that damn currency conversion ( 34 pounds = HOW many dollars?)

ConnieLFC · « **Reply #75 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:30:52 PM »

Quote from: NYCRedsFan on July 20, 2006, 07:25:11 PM

Although, I AM hoping the Adidas megastore on Broadway and Houston starts to carry LFC apparel when it's finally released. Cut down on the wait and shipping charges.

And that damn currency conversion ( 34 pounds = HOW many dollars?)

I hear that! I always try to buy from the club directly but that £15/£25 for shipping is an absolute killer these days. Oh for those days of yore when the club would ship all your gear for a tenner...

jimmy d · « **Reply #76 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:37:47 PM »

not be being funny lads, but the things your saying, is one of the main reasons why lads in the uk, tend to laugh at " soccer" supporters in the us. fuck people if they walk round in chelsea shirts, your only concern should be lfc.

we couldnt give two fucks if the lad 'over there' is wearing a ushited/Chelsea shirt. if anything its something to laugh at, not get angry about.

promote the red men and fuck everyone else. anyone dont agree, then whack em'.

NYCRedsFan · « **Reply #77 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:46:31 PM »

Quote from: jimmy d on July 20, 2006, 07:37:47 PM

not be being funny lads, but the things your saying, is one of the main reasons why lads in the uk, tend to laugh at " soccer" supporters in the us. fuck people if they walk round in chelsea shirts, your only concern should be lfc.

we couldnt give two fucks if the lad 'over there' is wearing a ushited/Chelsea shirt. if anything its something to laugh at, not get angry about.

promote the red men and fuck everyone else. anyone dont agree, then whack em'.

Pardon the digression, .... Exactly the same way I feel when someone is wearing a NY Islanders hockey jersey, ..... as well as anyone sporting ManUre, Chelsea, Gooners, etc kits. Something to be pitied and laughed at, with just a shake of the head.

Anyone challenges me on supporting LFC, (especially a Manc fan), I just hold up my hand showing 5 fingers.

jimmy d · « **Reply #78 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:56:39 PM »

fair play lad, dont forget to twat em an all

kizzak · « **Reply #79 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:29:29 PM »

Quote from: Hunts Cross on July 20, 2006, 11:28:50 AM

He's a bit of a tit and wrong on several counts. On the city thing, the US city most like Liverpool is Philadelphia, not Boston.

Faded port, lost industry, working class, neighbouring city become more 'successful' re commerce, growth, unmatched passion for sport....oh yes, its Philly.

Except at least one Liverpool team has won a championship in the last 23 years