Topic: The PS3 thread

[The Mrs]

blockbuster are doing them for £549 with a remote for blu-ray and extra conroller ad two games..and som other shit.
we ave to call all our cutomer and ask if they want to put down a £100 deposit. i just call people and say
'hello my name is rhian, i work for blockbuster and they want to know if you fancy spending £100 on something they probaby wont even give you'
or alternatively
'hello do you have lots of money? whats your card deatils and pin number and i will process ur order over the phone!'

[The Mrs]

oh i think the deal is that blockbuster wont be selling the console on its own. you either buy it as a deal or dont buy it.

[buzzing]

By no means disputing your decision, Buzzing because your argument is totally logical, but it is nearly a 50/50 split between major studios in terms of backing Blu Ray, with several backing both. It will be a while before most consumers feel the need to choose either way, by which time hybrid players will probably have made the battle between the formats redundant. However, like you say for a 'cheaper' entry point in to the market the PS3 is more practical.

If there is to be a winner though, there could be a surprising factor determining the victor: http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/05/02/pornhd/index.php?lsrc=mwrss

Didn't know that about the 50/50 split. I'd been told it was a case of the majority backing BluRay.

Even if i get stuck with a ps3, and HD-DVD wins the war, i'll probably just get a seperate player. By that time the prices for one will have dropped too.

[PeterJM]

Since the last 2 days i've decided im gonna go for the PS3

Reasoning:-

1) It's a smart bit of kit that wont look out of place next to any tv

2) BLuRay may not be commercially avialable at the mo, but the majority of the film studios back bluray

3) Its more expensive then xbox360, but when you add the cost of online play (which sony offer for free), it works out cheaper to get the ps3

4) the xbox HD-DVD drive is an add on, and i dont wont 2 bits to the console...when it does come built in, it will be expensive aswell, and when you add the costs of point 3. It makes me decide PS3

I got a PS3 last saturday and i can promise you its well worth the money.

[iSmiff]

you cant be serious, barring Resistance there isnt one single good PS3 game on the market yet

[PaulF]

blockbuster are doing them for £549 with a remote for blu-ray and extra conroller ad two games..and som other shit.
we ave to call all our cutomer and ask if they want to put down a £100 deposit. i just call people and say
'hello my name is rhian, i work for blockbuster and they want to know if you fancy spending £100 on something they probaby wont even give you'
or alternatively
'hello do you have lots of money? whats your card deatils and pin number and i will process ur order over the phone!'

Interesting that blockbuster are having to promote the thing, rather than fight off people for pre-orders.
I don't know why Sony even bother sending them to stores, they may as well cut out the middleman and list them directly on ebay.

[keithcun]

you cant be serious, barring Resistance there isnt one single good PS3 game on the market yet

Maybe he bought it for the Blu Ray drive. 

[iSmiff]

yes silly me, the BD is the reason to buy one

[Walshy®]

yes silly me, the BD is the reason to buy one

Maybe he has resistance?

[iSmiff]

resistance is an average first person shooter at best with good graphics, its an 8 out of 10 game at best, it does not make the PS3 a must have console

PES will do that when the MS exclusive deal runs out

[Walshy®]

resistance is an average first person shooter at best with good graphics, its an 8 out of 10 game at best, it does not make the PS3 a must have console

PES will do that when the MS exclusive deal runs out

That's not bad like.

[iSmiff]

its a good game, i have played it and completed it twice (you get new weapons second time round) but its nothing spectacular, its nothing i havent seen on 360 or PC before, it was also clear that it was rushed out big time for launch, a few more months in development and it could have been astounding

[keithcun]

yes silly me, the BD is the reason to buy one

Well considering there are a raft of people out there that have bought one solely for that reason,he may well have done.

[iSmiff]

i just dont understand why anyone wants hidef video, theres nothing wrong with DVD

[keithcun]

i just dont understand why anyone wants hidef video, theres nothing wrong with DVD

There's nothing wrong with a 21" CRT TV,but I bet you have something bigger.

Why do people buy Bentley's and Mercedes when a Ford Ka will get them to the same destination.

[iSmiff]

i've a 32 inch HDTV as it happens

but thats for gaming not watching sky hd on

[keithcun]

i've a 32 inch HDTV as it happens

but thats for gaming not watching sky hd on

So why a 32",because you think it's better than a smaller one?

That's why people buy HD,because it IS a much better picture than SD.

Pretty simple really,you pays yer money,yer takes yer choice.

[iSmiff]

i went for the 32 because the 40 was too dear

[keithcun]

i went for the 32 because the 40 was too dear

But you bought an HD TV becasue it's a better technology,the same reason why people will buy the PS3 for the Blu Ray drive.

[iSmiff]

i bought it because it made my 360 games look nice and i could wire my pc directly into it and use it as a monitor. so yes better tech


people who buy the ps3 for its bluray will be hugely let down, it will be ok for a while till proper bluray players become commonplace then like the ps2 dvd you will realise its utter shit and never use it again

[bradigor]

i just dont understand why anyone wants hidef video, theres nothing wrong with DVD

smiff........we agree........erm.......c*nt

[bradigor]

But you bought an HD TV becasue it's a better technology,the same reason why people will buy the PS3 for the Blu Ray drive.

So why are the sales so shit in Japan and USA where technology means so much?

[BazC]

So why are the sales so shit in Japan and USA where technology means so much?

Nintendo 

[bradigor]

Nintendo 

[Disintegration]

3) Its more expensive then xbox360, but when you add the cost of online play (which sony offer for free), it works out cheaper to get the ps3

Not really.

First of all, Xbox Live is a better service, full stop - you get your all-in one username, one friends list which is for every online game from that point on. PS3 appears to require an individual username, etc for every game - same goes for a friend's list. Sony's service might be free but from an online infrastructure point of view, Xbox Live is unbeatable. And given that you have the option of paying a fiver monthly, £15 quarterly or £40 for a year it's worthwhile for a much better service.

[keithcun]

i bought it because it made my 360 games look nice and i could wire my pc directly into it and use it as a monitor. so yes better tech


people who buy the ps3 for its bluray will be hugely let down, it will be ok for a while till proper bluray players become commonplace then like the ps2 dvd you will realise its utter shit and never use it again

And people will  and have bought the PS3 because it makes their films look much better than when watching a DVD.So it's no more pointless than you buying a HD ready set.There is nothing wrong with the quality of the Blu Ray drive in the PS3 as it gives very good results.Of course,the technology will improve in the future,but that doesn't help people who want the technology now and the only other alternative is to pay almost as much again for a standalone Blu Ray player,whereas now they also get the most powerful console out there thrown into the bargain.

Also,why buy a 360 when there's nothing wrong with the standard Xbox or PS2,or does this only apply when it suits.

Do you not see the inconsistences with your argument.

So why are the sales so shit in Japan and USA where technology means so much?

Probably the same reason why everyone isn't watching DVD's on £1000+ Denon and Arcam DVD decks.Top brands and technology cost premium money.Most people are quite happy to watch DVD's on a £20 special from Asda,others would rather spend the extra and get the better quality.Simple as that really.

[bradigor]

Probably the same reason why everyone isn't watching DVD's on £1000+ Denon and Arcam DVD decks.Top brands and technology cost premium money.Most people are quite happy to watch DVD's on a £20 special from Asda,others would rather spend the extra and get the better quality.Simple as that really.

So nothing at all to do with the fact that the Japanese games market more than anywhere dictates how well a console does? The only exception to the rule was the Dreamcast, which flopped here (with the masses anyway) yet carried on selling until 2004 with games still being produced into 2006.

Nintendo have 118 years experience and know what buttons to press. People say they got it wrong with the N64 and Gamecube, yet consider this....... Ask people what console they would buy out of N64 and PSOne now? Or see the number of Gamecubes littering the windows at gamestation compared to that of PS2 and Xbox. Nintendo may not of had the razz-a-mataz of Sony and Microsoft but they have longevity and they are fun.

The virtual console on the Wii has generated more sales for 1 game than Sony have sold PS3's around the world. Go to Blockbuster/Game/Gamestation etc there is no buzz, not the buzz there has been for the PS2 Wii Xbox latest Zelda etc. In Japan people were queueing for days for a Wii. The were huge 4 hour queues to pick up the latest batch of DSLites on the day when PS3 came out. Yet it was possible to pop in and pick a PS3 console up. In Japan and America you can get a PS3 off the shelf yet....Pre-Orders of The Fastest Selling Console Of All Time* are still being taken and fullfiled.

This time around it isn't about what looks pretty (oh and there is this myth that the Wii doesn't have goof graphics ) This time it is about a step to the side, a revolution in gaming. Sony is trailing behind and may not have an answer. Blu-Ray (Beta-Max)?
*Thanks to Gamesmaster Magazine

[PaulF]

The virtual console on the Wii has generated more sales for 1 game than Sony have sold PS3's around the world.

Which game?
I've been resisting virtual console, but this weekend may change that. Although if there's still snow Stevii will be abandoned for other pursuits.

[bradigor]

Which game?
I've been resisting virtual console, but this weekend may change that. Although if there's still snow Stevii will be abandoned for other pursuits.

Mario 64

[iSmiff]

the Wii a "revolution in gaming"

my ass, a fucking gimmick that will die on its ass inside a year and be replaced with the proper consoles that are the 360 and PS3

oh look i can wave the controller around, how great

10 mins later, "i wish this fucking thing worked like a normal joypad"

[Walshy®]

Wii's are shite, and will people will be bored with them in about 6 months.  Fact.  It was like the eyetoy, great fun for a few months, but once all your mates have had a go, and got bored, it became pointless and was just used to fill a box in the attic.

PS3 and Xbox360 for adults, Wii for children.

[bradigor]

the Wii a "revolution in gaming"

my ass, a fucking gimmick that will die on its ass inside a year and be replaced with the proper consoles that are the 360 and PS3

oh look i can wave the controller around, how great

10 mins later, "i wish this fucking thing worked like a normal joypad"

It can work like a normal joypad. You don't have to wave it around. Slight movements do the trick aswell.

The Gameboy was a gimmick apparantly.

[BazC]

Mario 64

I've got that on the DS 

[PaulF]

PS3 and Xbox360 for adults, Wii for children.

PS3 and Xbox360 for adults, Wii for children and adults with children.

[bradigor]

PS3 and Xbox360 for adults, Wii for children and adults with children.

And adults without kids.

Walshy.......... Red Steel, Splinter Cell, Call of Duty, Far Cry and now Manhunt 2.......Not kiddy games are they

[PaulF]

And adults without kids.

Walshy.......... Red Steel, Splinter Cell, Call of Duty, Far Cry and now Manhunt 2.......Not kiddy games are they

But games like splinter Cell  and far cry, rely on sumptuous, realistic graphics to draw you into the environment. The more blood and realistic gore, the better and on that front the Wii can't compete.

[bradigor]

But games like splinter Cell  and far cry, rely on sumptuous, realistic graphics to draw you into the environment. The more blood and realistic gore, the better and on that front the Wii can't compete.

i know Paul. We would never see them released on the Wii

[keithcun]

So nothing at all to do with the fact that the Japanese games market more than anywhere dictates how well a console does? The only exception to the rule was the Dreamcast, which flopped here (with the masses anyway) yet carried on selling until 2004 with games still being produced into 2006.

Nintendo have 118 years experience and know what buttons to press. People say they got it wrong with the N64 and Gamecube, yet consider this....... Ask people what console they would buy out of N64 and PSOne now? Or see the number of Gamecubes littering the windows at gamestation compared to that of PS2 and Xbox. Nintendo may not of had the razz-a-mataz of Sony and Microsoft but they have longevity and they are fun.

The virtual console on the Wii has generated more sales for 1 game than Sony have sold PS3's around the world. Go to Blockbuster/Game/Gamestation etc there is no buzz, not the buzz there has been for the PS2 Wii Xbox latest Zelda etc. In Japan people were queueing for days for a Wii. The were huge 4 hour queues to pick up the latest batch of DSLites on the day when PS3 came out. Yet it was possible to pop in and pick a PS3 console up. In Japan and America you can get a PS3 off the shelf yet....Pre-Orders of The Fastest Selling Console Of All Time* are still being taken and fullfiled.

This time around it isn't about what looks pretty (oh and there is this myth that the Wii doesn't have goof graphics ) This time it is about a step to the side, a revolution in gaming. Sony is trailing behind and may not have an answer. Blu-Ray (Beta-Max)?
*Thanks to Gamesmaster Magazine

I'm not quite sure what you are actually arguing about.

All I'm saying is that there are people out there buying PS3's solely because it has a Blu Ray drive in it and it's the cheapest way by a considerably margin to get a Blu Ray player in your home.I didn't say there were 10 million out there buying them,but it's a very serious consideration when the only standalone players are costing around £800.

I'm not arguing whether the PS3 is the best selling console out there,I don't care as I do all my gaming on the PC.All I do know,is it's the most powerful and best equipped out there and that's why it costs premium money which is the same if not cheaper what you would pay for the Xbox 360 with the same specs,yet no body I'm aware has criticised the cost the 360.

I was arguing with Smiff because he can't seem the point in going HD when a DVD gives a good picture,yet he did exactly that when he bought a 360 (HD) instead of a standard Xbox.

And adults without kids.

Walshy.......... Red Steel, Splinter Cell, Call of Duty, Far Cry and now Manhunt 2.......Not kiddy games are they

And they won't be a patch on the PC versions. 

[bradigor]

Keith. I thought you were arguing about the PS3 will sell well because of people wanting Blu-Ray. I argued that it isn't selling aswell as hoped regardless of Blu-Ray

If I caught the wrong end of the stick then I withdraw the post and apologise.

And of course the games of that type work better on a PC that has always been the case though regardless of console.

[filopastry]

But Keith as I've said before the issue with the PS3 isn't whether its overpriced given how much it costs to build (it clearly isn't) but rather whether it offers value for money as a console, and the clear answer seems to be yes it does if you want Blu Ray and a console, no it doesn't if you just want a games console.