Topic: WWE/Other Wrestling Thread

[LiverLuke]

Vicki looked good

[Anywhichwayucan]

I was just about to switch off, thought AJ had been eliminated early on.

[Anywhichwayucan]

That's me done with RAW, for tonight. I'll scoot off to sleep during the J2E and Cena match anyway, so may aswel head off now.

[Y2J]

WWE is going down the drain fast

[LiverLuke]

what was that, creative has gone down the shit, they just dont care anymore.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

WWE is going down the drain fast

The thing that really annoys me is that they have the potential to be really great; they have some top talent in the roster and some good gimmiks, but they are not doing anything at all with said talent; it just one big storyline (most of the time involving Cena) that gets everything, whilst all the others are given only the minimum attention needed; a situation that is made worse by the fact that the big storyline's for the past few months have been really shite. New stars aren't getting the push to make them legitimate in the present and future, and the other main eventers are getting treated like mid-carders.

[LiverLuke]

im surprised the live crowd still reacts, literally no-one cares about a john cena and big show feud, so.. damn.. boring.

[something awful]

Wait, did I here that right; a  man Mitb ladder match with only former WWE champions. So a match that is entirely designed to build new stars and allow up and coming main eventers to get into the title scene is now a match for established superstars to just start another title feud. So they've pretty much shat on a brilliant concept for a match, and twisted the whole point of it for no reason other than to get juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnn ssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaa back in the title picture; even though he would already get back into it without this help. I'm sorry, I'm not having that, that is absolute horse shite.

Fuck this Company

Hahahahahahaaha oh for fuck's sake.

[something awful]

im surprised the live crowd still reacts, literally no-one cares about a john cena and big show feud, so.. damn.. boring.

Come on now, you're better than this stupidity.

[something awful]

Also the lack of love for Sid here tells me that I will never, ever be able to educate all of you to even a passable level.

[LiverLuke]

okay i was over-exaggerating, but it wasn't long ago most the crowd were booing cena, i don't mind cena much or him being in the main event, in fact on here ive defended him a lot but the big show feud is just lazy regurgitated rubbish and everyone i know that likes wrestling are bored of it. admittedly are mostly smarks.

[something awful]

okay i was over-exaggerating, but it wasn't long ago most the crowd were booing cena, i don't mind cena much or him being in the main event, in fact on here ive defended him a lot but the big show feud is just lazy regurgitated rubbish and everyone i know that likes wrestling are bored of it. admittedly are mostly smarks.

You mean guys that don't pay for PPVs? Yeah WWE cares a lot what those people think.

Perspective, lads.

[Nicky English]

You mean guys that don't pay for PPVs? Yeah WWE cares a lot what those people think.

Perspective, lads.

That point has been beaten to death. I just don't think anyone wants to listen to reason.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Hahahahahahaaha oh for fuck's sake.

Ok, I went overboard there, but as i said before I a, a natural cynic who likes a moan, but you do have to agree that changing a match that is designed fornew stars into one exclusive for established ones is pretty stupid. Also, the fact that it is only 4 people when part of the fun of it was the chaos that came from 6 men, again another bad decision

[Kopite B205]

Blast from the past with Sid last night. One of my favourite characters of all time.

[kirzer]

I enjoyed that RAW, wasn't amazing but had some decent bits. I am looking forward to another Punk/Bryan 1v1 match at MITB, Punk will win again but their matches are always great. What I not looking forward to though is Cena winning the briefcase and then cashing it in for a match against CM Punk at Summerslam. Cena/Punk 3 will be good but I would rather see both MITB matches used to give sopmeone new an opportunity.

[Damo58]

I enjoyed that RAW, wasn't amazing but had some decent bits. I am looking forward to another Punk/Bryan 1v1 match at MITB, Punk will win again but their matches are always great. What I not looking forward to though is Cena winning the briefcase and then chasing it in for a match against CM Punk at Summerslam. Cena/Punk 3 will be good but I would rather see both MITB matches used to give sopmeone new an opportunity.

The saving grace about that is it may lead to a Punk heel turn. Found him better as a sneaky heel.

[Finn Solomon]

I always felt the WWE could take a page or two from the book of the comics industry, and vice versa. If Cena is the E's Superman, they should build Punk up to be Batman.

[Nicky English]

I always felt the WWE could take a page or two from the book of the comics industry, and vice versa. If Cena is the E's Superman, they should build Punk up to be Batman.

But Batman isn't homeless. He lives in a pretty mansion.

[Anywhichwayucan]

And Punk is too handsome to be Batman.

[amir87]

That ladder match with Cena, Big Show, Kane and Kim Kardashian's step dad won't be pretty. They need some stunt monkeys to make it more entertaining.

[Finn Solomon]

But Batman isn't homeless. He lives in a pretty mansion.

Not according to the proposed Frank Miller/Darren Aronofsky movie version.

Anyway it's something to consider. I'm quite fascinated how similar the two mediums are. Like when they were building up Darkseid for his ultimate villain role in Final Crisis, it was exactly the same like how the WWE 'repaired' Mark Henry's image as a major badass after years of mismanagement.

[amir87]

Not according to the proposed Frank Miller/Darren Aronofsky movie version.

Anyway it's something to consider. I'm quite fascinated how similar the two mediums are. Like when they were building up Darkseid for his ultimate villain role in Final Crisis, it was exactly the same like how the WWE 'repaired' Mark Henry's image as a major badass after years of mismanagement.

Speaking of Mark Henry, where is that tubby fuck anyway..?

[RJH]

But Batman isn't homeless. He lives in a pretty mansion.

So Alberto then?

But would Ricardo be Robin, or Alfred?

[tommyLFC]

So MITB is only for former champions....

Could we see a late "injury" pave the way for The Rock to enter the match on the night? Win and then tease cash ins before saying he'll cash it in at manua against Cena?

Or... will we see Cena attitude adjust Big Show and Kane off a ladder at the same time before unclipping the briefcase to win and cash it in, win the title and face rock at Mania.

That Mania match does not need MITB. The only way they'll save this is if Cena wins, promises to wait til Mania to cash it in before turning heel and cashing it in on a battered Punk.

[tommyLFC]

Ziggler and Barret should be the winners of MITB.

[Anywhichwayucan]

Ziggler screams upper midcarder, at me.

[RJH]

So MITB is only for former champions....

Could we see a late "injury" pave the way for The Rock to enter the match on the night? Win and then tease cash ins before saying he'll cash it in at manua against Cena?

Or... will we see Cena attitude adjust Big Show and Kane off a ladder at the same time before unclipping the briefcase to win and cash it in, win the title and face rock at Mania.

That Mania match does not need MITB. The only way they'll save this is if Cena wins, promises to wait til Mania to cash it in before turning heel and cashing it in on a battered Punk.

If the Rock was coming back to compete, they wouldn't leave it to the last minute. WWE would be promoting it heavily to get buy rates and viewing figures up.

Can't see them waiting until Mania for the briefcase to be cashed in either.

As others have said, Cena will probably win, then cash in for a match at SummerSlam.

[voodoo ray]

a 4 man mitb match? really?

stick del rio and miz in it too.


did enjoy seeing Sid again.

[LF]

WWE is going down the drain fast

and then they will hit rock bottom and go out of business. oh noes 

[Moldyman]

Ziggler screams upper midcarder, at me.

you're a shit troll

[stoa]

okay i was over-exaggerating, but it wasn't long ago most the crowd were booing cena, i don't mind cena much or him being in the main event, in fact on here ive defended him a lot but the big show feud is just lazy regurgitated rubbish and everyone i know that likes wrestling are bored of it. admittedly are mostly smarks.

To be honest, I don't think Cena vs. Big Show is WWE's biggest problem, because the way I see it, they're actually doing a decent job building this up without the guys actually facing each other twice every week. Just look at AJ, Kane, Bryan and Punk. How often have they competeted with each other in recent weeks? Has there been a single show where not at least two of them were in the ring together? Same goes for Sheamus and del Rio/Ziggler (or whoever he's competing with). Or Lesnar vs. Triple H who are on TV once a month and nothing really happens. I'd take Cena vs. Big Show every day of the week compared to that, especially if other people are getting involved like Brodus Clay or Jericho...

[Anywhichwayucan]

you're a shit troll

How is that trolling?


I love Ziggler as much as anyone, but couldn't take him seriously as Heavyweight Champion.

[Frank.]

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=294991.0

[Frank.]

In the WHC MITB match are..

[kirzer]

How is that trolling?


I love Ziggler as much as anyone, but couldn't take him seriously as Heavyweight Champion.

I kinda understand what you mean, but I do think given some proper mic time he could be a great champion. If WWE had stronger roster in general he would be midcard most of the time but they need to build new stars and Ziggler is the best of the bunch.

[Nicky English]

I kinda understand what you mean, but I do think given some proper mic time he could be a great champion. If WWE had stronger roster in general he would be midcard most of the time but they need to build new stars and Ziggler is the best of the bunch.

Mr. Perfect reincarnate. Not as World Champion. Not to me, but then, I think it's a joke having Punk as your top guy, too.

[51cam]

What was the point of the contract on the poll match on Monday night . . . . Anyone!?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

In the WHC MITB match are..

[Frank.]