Topic: ++ Maybe Major Investment News In Another Reality++

[Drewas]

Is the whole thing becoming messy. I for one would just like it resolved sooner rather than later.

[Drewas]

"Another revelation from the secret document is that in 2004 Liverpool were subject of three failed takeover attempts, all offering different valuations."

This was kinda interesting anyone know about these attempts?

[ShanksLegend]

Price Waterhouse Cooper are dealing for both, PWC deal with all of DIC's dealings throughout the world.  LFC employed them to search for investment suitors.

Thats what happens when others get involved with the club, you've proabably got some cockney flashing information around like its goin out of fashion.

The club have a circle of trust between lawyers, solicitors, accountants, advisors at the moment, that will change and break big time.  Things like transfers and stuff like that will no longer be kept in house and that is a bad thing. 

There is too much info bein passed around at the moment and the club aren't happy.

[Sinos]

THis is all media bollocks.

That is all

[ShanksLegend]

THis is all media bollocks.

That is all

ok

[XabiAlonsoXabi]

Price Waterhouse Cooper are dealing for both, PWC deal with all of DIC's dealings throughout the world.  LFC employed them to search for investment suitors.

Thats what happens when others get involved with the club, you've proabably got some cockney flashing information around like its goin out of fashion.

The club have a circle of trust between lawyers, solicitors, accountants, advisors at the moment, that will change and break big time.  Things like transfers and stuff like that will no longer be kept in house and that is a bad thing. 

There is too much info bein passed around at the moment and the club aren't happy.

Is it still on fella or are Moores and Parry getting a bit to fucked off?

[ShanksLegend]

Is it still on fella or are Moores and Parry getting a bit to fucked off?

God knows whats happening

[Sinos]

Is it still on fella or are Moores and Parry getting a bit to fucked off?

I highly doubt that they would jump ship at this point.

They've learnt their lesson's from the P&O deal

[Liver Bird]

Nothing to worry about of course ,theres always steve morgan waiting in the wings ,its enough to put any mind at ease.

[ShanksLegend]

steve morgan

 

[DannyD]

I highly doubt that they would jump ship at this point.

They've learnt their lesson's from the P&O deal

But the problems they had over P&O was political, what we have here is either the media talking it upon themselves to disrupt the deal for a story or they are working for a third party , either way it will boil down to an agreement between club and company the government UEFA and FIFA have said they cannot stop it happening it doesn't break any rules. Wonder if Morgan isn't pulling a few strings here and there.

looking forward to DIC's latest reply to all this crap.

[raptor]

Price Waterhouse Cooper are dealing for both, PWC deal with all of DIC's dealings throughout the world.  LFC employed them to search for investment suitors.

Thats what happens when others get involved with the club, you've proabably got some cockney flashing information around like its goin out of fashion.

The club have a circle of trust between lawyers, solicitors, accountants, advisors at the moment, that will change and break big time.  Things like transfers and stuff like that will no longer be kept in house and that is a bad thing. 

There is too much info bein passed around at the moment and the club aren't happy.

This post has me somewhat concerned. Any chance of any more info?

[Sweet Silver Song]

If the investment happens, I don't think any of us can expect things to remain quite the same as before. Yes, we will get more money to compete better at home and in Europe, but that will come at a cost. It will mean we won't be the nice family run club that we have always been. It'll mean that there will be a lot of different parties involved and we will be run more like the Mancs and Chelsea are. Some of this may be welcome by our fans who want to see us dragged into the modern times and get our commercial and marketing sides sorted out, whilst others will rue this ever happening. My opinion is that we once set the trend for other clubs, we were the first team in England with shirt sponsorship, it didn't mean we lost our values or forgot our history. Let's use the investment to get back to the top of the tree, and then set an example to other teams by showing them it's possible to be a commercial success, be a playing success, whilst at the same time shamelessly indulging in your magnificent history and tradition.   

[Red_Isle_Chap]

If the investment happens, I don't think any of us can expect things to remain quite the same as before. Yes, we will get more money to compete better at home and in Europe, but that will come at a cost. It will mean we won't be the nice family run club that we have always been. It'll mean that there will be a lot of different parties involved and we will be run more like the Mancs and Chelsea are. Some of this may be welcome by our fans who want to see us dragged into the modern times and get our commercial and marketing sides sorted out, whilst others will rue this ever happening. My opinion is that we once set the trend for other clubs, we were the first team in England with shirt sponsorship, it didn't mean we lost our values or forgot our history. Let's use the investment to get back to the top of the tree, and then set an example to other teams by showing them it's possible to be a commercial success, be a playing success, whilst at the same time shamelessly indulging in your magnificent history and tradition.   

Well said that lad. Couldn't agree more

[Fred Madison]

Well said that lad. Couldn't agree more

Exactly.

[¡Basta Ya!]

If the investment happens, I don't think any of us can expect things to remain quite the same as before. Yes, we will get more money to compete better at home and in Europe, but that will come at a cost. It will mean we won't be the nice family run club that we have always been. It'll mean that there will be a lot of different parties involved and we will be run more like the Mancs and Chelsea are. Some of this may be welcome by our fans who want to see us dragged into the modern times and get our commercial and marketing sides sorted out, whilst others will rue this ever happening. My opinion is that we once set the trend for other clubs, we were the first team in England with shirt sponsorship, it didn't mean we lost our values or forgot our history. Let's use the investment to get back to the top of the tree, and then set an example to other teams by showing them it's possible to be a commercial success, be a playing success, whilst at the same time shamelessly indulging in your magnificent history and tradition.   

Waited for the last day of the year to make the post of the year.

[Brother Mouzone]

If the investment happens, I don't think any of us can expect things to remain quite the same as before. Yes, we will get more money to compete better at home and in Europe, but that will come at a cost. It will mean we won't be the nice family run club that we have always been. It'll mean that there will be a lot of different parties involved and we will be run more like the Mancs and Chelsea are. Some of this may be welcome by our fans who want to see us dragged into the modern times and get our commercial and marketing sides sorted out, whilst others will rue this ever happening. My opinion is that we once set the trend for other clubs, we were the first team in England with shirt sponsorship, it didn't mean we lost our values or forgot our history. Let's use the investment to get back to the top of the tree, and then set an example to other teams by showing them it's possible to be a commercial success, be a playing success, whilst at the same time shamelessly indulging in your magnificent history and tradition.   

It's a tough one isn't it?

Be a nice family club and end up like Charlton or an evil empire with shed loads of cash like the Mancs and Chelsea.

We need to find a 'third way'. And that's the first and last time I quote Tony Blair.

[Dragonshadow]

We need to find that middle ground between the two. DIC have said they'll take a backseat and still leave Moores and Parry at the club in some capacity, so maybe they'll just be the front men now to deal with transfers, the press, club functions etc, and DIC will do the behind the scenes stuff, put up the money needed and get the new stadium built.

It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out.

[Drewas]

FYI: Guilleme Ballegue has just said on Radio that the deal with DIC is done and all that is to be done is red tape!

Expects it to be announced mid Jan.

Guess hes quite good mates with Rafa.

[ttnbd]

FYI: Guilleme Ballegue has just said on Radio that the deal with DIC is done and all that is to be done is red tape!

Expects it to be announced mid Jan.

Guess hes quite good mates with Rafa.

He previously said it would be done by the monday before xmas.  He's not the greatest source of info.

[Fred Madison]

He previously said it would be done by the monday before xmas.  He's not the greatest source of info.

Indeed. He's bad luck!

[Drewas]

He previously said it would be done by the monday before xmas.  He's not the greatest source of info.

He did say they had expected it to have happened by now except for the red tape.

Also said the Beckham to Anfield story was taken from a spanish paper on Spains equivalant of Aprils fools day. 

[Rhino]

The problem with selling off the entire club is that you then have no control who they then sell onto.

Obvious example is the mancs and the fact that Murdoch effectively owns 10% of us now

Surely the club could have raised £100m or so from the supporters and kept the ownership where it is

[ttnbd]

The problem with selling off the entire club is that you then have no control who they then sell onto.

Obvious example is the mancs and the fact that Murdoch effectively owns 10% of us now

Surely the club could have raised £100m or so from the supporters and kept the ownership where it is

Murdoch actually 'effectively' owns less than 1% of LFC through his association with sky.

[ratcatcher]

The problem with selling off the entire club is that you then have no control who they then sell onto.

Obvious example is the mancs and the fact that Murdoch effectively owns 10% of us now

Surely the club could have raised £100m or so from the supporters and kept the ownership where it is

How do you work that out? Sky dont own 100% of ITV. IIRC they only hold around 17% of ITV.

[Alf]

Price Waterhouse Cooper are dealing for both, PWC deal with all of DIC's dealings throughout the world.  LFC employed them to search for investment suitors.

Thats what happens when others get involved with the club, you've proabably got some cockney flashing information around like its goin out of fashion.

The club have a circle of trust between lawyers, solicitors, accountants, advisors at the moment, that will change and break big time.  Things like transfers and stuff like that will no longer be kept in house and that is a bad thing. 

There is too much info bein passed around at the moment and the club aren't happy.

Firms like PWC are meant to use 'Chinese Walls' to restrict information being passed from one part of the firm to another by the FSA. Especially in scenarios like these where they dealing with both parties. Apart from Robbie Fowler I can't remember the last transfer move we made that caught me by surprise.

FYI: Guilleme Ballegue has just said on Radio that the deal with DIC is done and all that is to be done is red tape!

Expects it to be announced mid Jan.

Guess hes quite good mates with Rafa.

Last time I spoke to Guilleme Ballegue after the Leverkusen game at Anfield in February last year, he told me Steven Gerrard was definitely leaving us in the summer of 2005 and Xabi Alonso wouldn't be playing again that season.

[hoonin]

He did say they had expected it to have happened by now except for the red tape.

Also said the Beckham to Anfield story was taken from a spanish paper on Spains equivalant of Aprils fools day. 

The red tape being the lawyers, the documents, the signatures and everything else that actually makes it "done" ?

[Rhino]

Murdoch actually 'effectively' owns less than 1% of LFC through his association with sky.

Sky own 17.9% of ITV, which is enough to call the shots, hence even Branson was complaining.

ITV own 9.9% of LFC which is less significant as Moores owns 51%.  However they own 50% of .tv, which is enough to have see fucking New of the World ads on there

[ttnbd]

Sky own 17.9% of ITV, which is enough to call the shots, hence even Branson was complaining.

ITV own 9.9% of LFC which is less significant as Moores owns 51%.  However they own 50% of .tv, which is enough to have see fucking New of the World ads on there

17.9% of a company is not significant influence unless no other shareholders singley own more than the 17.9%.  ITV doesn't even go into Sky's books as a subsidiary, it is an associate, if that it probably goes in as an investment, and nothing more.

From simple mathematics sky effectively own 1.77% of lfc, Murdoch effectively owns less than 0.9% of lfc.  As for the news of the world adverts, they appeared on lfc.tv BEFORE sky bought their stake in ITV.

[LfcFinland]

I dont know much about the investment situation. But what I know: do you really think that Rafa would stay around if he's told that some Arabian version of Abramowich would come to tell him which players to buy and who not (just like Abra forced Mourinho to buy Ballack, <and maybe Schevchenko>, and exchange suberbly performing William Gallas to underperforming Cashley Cole).

[¡Basta Ya!]

Whatever.......................

Did you wave your hand like a Jerry Springer guest, because that is how I read it

[Shanklygates]

8th Jan - all will become clear...

[Anthony]

8th Jan - all will become clear...

Impossible - 8th Jan is not a Thursday!

[Rhino]

17.9% of a company is not significant influence unless no other shareholders singley own more than the 17.9%.  ITV doesn't even go into Sky's books as a subsidiary, it is an associate, if that it probably goes in as an investment, and nothing more.

From simple mathematics sky effectively own 1.77% of lfc, Murdoch effectively owns less than 0.9% of lfc.  As for the news of the world adverts, they appeared on lfc.tv BEFORE sky bought their stake in ITV.

17.9% of a company is a huge amount, cost them £9 BILLION!!!

Regards the NoTW ad, that is exactly my point, it was there pre Murdoch.  Shall we now see The S** ads on there

We are fortunate that Sky bought their stake in ITV just to stop Branson, but any Murdoch involvement in LFC to too much

[ttnbd]

Sorry but you are talking nonesense itv are not valued at £50bn+.

[DannyD]

17.9% of a company is a huge amount, cost them £9 BILLION!!!

Regards the NoTW ad, that is exactly my point, it was there pre Murdoch.  Shall we now see The S** ads on there

We are fortunate that Sky bought their stake in ITV just to stop Branson, but any Murdoch involvement in LFC to too much

we open up the Sun NOTW debate again we last had it over SGs biography, the NOTW is not the Sun neither is Sky or The Times but they too are owned by Murdoch, my take on this is the fight is with the Sun, now I respect those who say we should not deal with anything that Murdoch has his finger in, but that was not the call after Hillsborough and to start it now would dilute the long and hard fight against the Sun, and give sucker to those who want to dilute the fight, it is they who argue we don't fight Sky so why fight the Sun, its your argument put on its head.

[Sinos]

17.9% of a company is a huge amount, cost them £9 BILLION!!!

Regards the NoTW ad, that is exactly my point, it was there pre Murdoch.  Shall we now see The S** ads on there

Sky's stake in ITV cost them £940mil not £9bil

BBC

Bloomberg

[DannyD]

I dont know much about the investment situation. But what I know: do you really think that Rafa would stay around if he's told that some Arabian version of Abramowich would come to tell him which players to buy and who not (just like Abra forced Mourinho to buy Ballack, <and maybe Schevchenko>, and exchange suberbly performing William Gallas to underperforming Cashley Cole).

DIC  have stated they will not interfere with the day to day running of the team, it is expected that Moores and Parry will carry on alongside a new chief exec, and some corporate people who will deal with the brand and investments

[Gus 1855]

8th Jan - all will become clear...

Interesante.....

It would be good to hear some firm new on this. DIC have been able to look at our books for a month, which I would expect would be enough time for a fairly simple structure.

Maybe news of a firm offer?

[cyador]

DIC  have stated they will not interfere with the day to day running of the team, it is expected that Moores and Parry will carry on alongside a new chief exec, and some corporate people who will deal with the brand and investments

DIC have a history of not interfering in business's they acquire; once they bought Madam Toussords (sp?) they left the original management team in place to run things, same with travel lodge i believe.