Topic: ++ Maybe Major Investment News In Another Reality++

[redchiz]

So, does that mean we can still buy Israeli and Jewish players (think  Avi Cohen and Ronnie Rosenthal).

The Glazers and Abrahmovic are jewish.
Al Ansari and Al Maktoum are Arabs, and muslim.

And business is business.

[danisch]

danish I know the press over there is not as free as it should be but on the street are there signs of the rulers falling out over policy or the share of the spoils. To keep so many regions happy would be a miracle, surely they have inter regional tension?

There were rumors when the big sheikh passed away last year that there was going to be a power struggle and whatnot, but nothings come out yet, everything's running very smooth and its likely to stay that way. There is healthy competition though, with Abu Dhabi (the capital) spending f*ckloads on its own new airline to rival emirates (Etihad Airways) and spending on tourism etc but there aren't any fallouts really. There have been a few new newspapers launched recently a couple of which seem to be more open in criticizing the govt but its all good thankfully.

[7777]

Would be great if the Arsenal shirt says - Fly Emirates
                                                      VIA LIVERPOOL

Brilliant

[Brother Mouzone]

yuk

the thought of being related to Arsenal is tantamount to climbing into a giant doner kebab

mmmmm, giant doner kebab

time for dinner

[Immoral King Brian Blessed]

capitalism resulted in an American friend of mine, 42 years old, not being able to afford prescriptions at his chemist....costing over 150 dollars per month.  He has since died.

Capitalism has resulted in many of my friends in America not having health insurance.

That is their own choice.

Capitalism, for all it's ills, is still the best available system.

[DannyD]

Vinay posted ... So, does that mean we can still buy Israeli and Jewish players (think  Avi Cohen and Ronnie Rosenthal).

The Glazers and Abrahmovic are jewish.
Al Ansari and Al Maktoum are Arabs, and muslim.  This is getting interesting!

Reply .... far as I have read they are tolerant to all religions, but I doubt an rabid Zionist would want to play for a club with Pan Arab links. we have to keep thinking Zionism does not represent the Jewish religion it hijacked it.

[courty61]

January window runs until 31st. It'll be well sorted by then.

Doesn't mean Rafa will get bucket loads of money to spend though in Jan

[redchiz]

That is their own choice.

What, to die?

Or do you mean choosing not to have health insurance? Ah, the old chestnut about freedom of choice. OK, try this hypothesis: so you're free. But you are also poor. Now "choose."

Capitalism, for all it's ills, is still the best available system.

You're saying that like, once again, we have a choice in the matter i.e. which system we live under. Er, tell us how that works, then?

[johnybarnes]

Doesn't mean Rafa will get bucket loads of money to spend though in Jan

And Rafa doesnt need bucket loads. I think what rafa wants/asks for - he will get.

[RyanBabelsFish]

Doesn't mean Rafa will get bucket loads of money to spend though in Jan

Possibly. But it's also unlikely we'll be arguing over a difference of two million euros when a player like Simao is available.

[Immoral King Brian Blessed]

What, to die?

Or do you mean choosing not to have health insurance? Ah, the old chestnut about freedom of choice. OK, try this hypothesis: so you're free. But you are also poor. Now "choose."
You're saying that like, once again, we have a choice in the matter i.e. which system we live under. Er, tell us how that works, then?

1. If you're poor, you qualify for medicaid. If your job doesn't offer health insurance, you can get it privately starting for around $90 every three months. But people prefer having TVs.

2. Of course you have a choice. Don't like capitalism, go live in Cuba or China.

[Sarge]

And Rafa doesn't need bucket loads. I think what Rafa wants/asks for - he will get.

Yeah your right, Rafa as far as i can see it will not be like a kid in a sweetshop with tons of money. He is cuter than that and will only get what the team needs and will not buy for the sake of having 22 millionaires on the books who are more interested in financing themselves than winning for the love of the club.

[Immoral King Brian Blessed]

Absolutely. He'll have more flexibility, but I can't see him paying 30 million for a player.

[kavah]

the fact the lads got the liverbird on his phone really givs me a peice of mind about the whole  deal   

I know  , now if he had a ring of fire ringtone as well...

[Twelfth Customer]

Not happy I don't want success at any cost and just wish UEFA had some balls and implemented proposals to link a clubs expenditure to its income, that would stop rich billionires from ruining the game.

Many terrorists and crime dons from Mumbai also reside in that souless, ostentatious fake city in the desert they call Dubai. The place sounds like the closest place to hell on Earth up their with Vegas.

[spencer]

I wonder if it is possible to have two threads on this subject now; one to discuss the footballing implications of the deal and the other for the soapbox politicos to fight it out over their deeply-held views on life, the universe, and everything.

[Fanxxxxtastic]

BENITEZ EXCITED BY SPENDING POWER
By Paul Walker, PA Sport

Rafael Benitez admits he is relishing the prospect of being able to spend big in the transfer market if the proposed Liverpool takeover is completed.

The Anfield boss was anticipating the new "big picture" and an exciting future as he brought his squad back from Turkey following the disappointing - but largely unimportant - Champions League Group C defeat by Galatasaray in Istanbul.

Liverpool were already confirmed as group winners, and can now contemplate the knockout stage draw later this month which could see them paired with second-placed finishers Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Roma or Barcelona.

That is an exciting prospect for Benitez, as is the potential takeover of the club by Dubai International Capital - news of which has dominated Liverpool's passage this week into the next stage of this season's tournament.

Due diligence will now have to be completed before the Ł450million deal can go ahead, with the prospect of major transfer funds being released by the Maktoum family, the backers of the proposed buy-out.

And Benitez clearly believes he will soon be able to compete in the transfer market with Europe's big guns, including Chelsea.

Benitez said: "The big picture now is clear. This investment can help us for the future.

"We can have a big stadium, more fans seeing us and also a lot of money.

"That will help us for sure. We will be able to compete at the top end of the transfer market and that is a good prospect for me.

"It is important for a club like ours to have this level of investment, and it is important for the manager, too.

"You can consider buying certain players and you will know that the club is behind you. If they have enough money it will certainly help us for the future.

"Maybe in the future we will have more money. It is a great possibility."

He added: "It is important for the club to have the prospect of such new investment, we are pleased and so I believe are our supporters.

"If this turns out to be the right thing for this club it will be fantastic. We do have to be careful, we cannot just change all the team straight away, and we would not want to because we have some fine players already.

"It would be wrong to change everything. This team has won trophies while the chairman has spent three years trying to find investment."

The prospect of greater buying power for the future also inspired midfielder Xabi Alonso.

He said: "If the takeover is good for the club then obviously I am happy. It's not done yet, but really close.

"They will bring new ideas, and money. The new stadium is a priority and that will help the level that the team can reach as well as bringing in new players."


http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/12/06/SOCCER_Liverpool_Nightlead.html&TEAMHD=soccer

[Wewonit5times]

 "We will be able to compete at the top end of the transfer market and that is a good prospect for me.

Interesting, people might say he's just guessing but im pretty sure he'll be kept in the loop of everything going on and what their plans are.

[The dude abides]

That is their own choice.

Capitalism, for all it's ills, is still the best available system.

having health insurance isn't an option for many people.

My friend who died had an ailment that he couldn't get cover for - only one company would touch him and it was near 1500 dollars per year.  He didn't have the money.

Thankfully the democrats are gonna look again at providing a decent free health care system for americans.

i.e. not a profit making/greed based system that the multitnationals and crooked republicans prefer.

[ˇBasta Ya!]

Can't wait to see top players like Pascal Chimbonda and Michael Owen come to a club like ours. Will be triffic.

[Derzyjudek]

Not happy I don't want success at any cost and just wish UEFA had some balls and implemented proposals to link a clubs expenditure to its income, that would stop rich billionires from ruining the game.

Many terrorists and crime dons from Mumbai also reside in that souless, ostentatious fake city in the desert they call Dubai. The place sounds like the closest place to hell on Earth up their with Vegas.

what sort of comment is that?...i take it you havnt been?

[Twelfth Customer]

Derzy your right mate, but me mam has and she loves the place, hence I don't require any further information!

[Fanxxxxtastic]

People have always said that Rafa has done a lot for the club on a small budget. Imagine what he could do if he had a lot of money to spend on tranfers.

Hopefully we will soon find out.

[Derzyjudek]

Derzy your right mate, but me mam has and she loves the place, hence I don't require any further information!

well i have too and i suggest you bow to your mums superior knowledge!

[Twelfth Customer]

People have always said that Rafa has done a lot for the club on a small budget. Imagine what he could do if he had a lot of money to spend on tranfers.

Hopefully we will soon find out.

Yeah we'll get Nunez, that no mark chap from tenerife (right-back) among quite a few of Rafa's hit and mostly miss purchases at inflated prices, lets face it his judgement in the transfer market has been lacking, like buying Robbie and letting go of Pongelle.

[The dude abides]

1. If you're poor, you qualify for medicaid. If your job doesn't offer health insurance, you can get it privately starting for around $90 every three months. But people prefer having TVs.

I guess if you sell your home, you might qualify.

a one person family qualifies if they have less than $692/monthly income and resources of less than $4150.

2. Of course you have a choice. Don't like capitalism, go live in Cuba or China.

funny you should mention Cuba - it has one of the finest health care systems in the world.  They covered it on Newsnight a month or two back.

I guess when you take corporate greed/profits out of healthcare, you have a much more affordable system.  Only stands to sense.

[Twelfth Customer]

The idea of becoming another Chelsea horrifies me, if it happens I might give up watching football alltogether.

[SwedenRed]

Do you think the new owners will put a red flag on every seat and expect us to wave it for the next Champions League home game?  Hope we dont end up going down this road like Chelsea did... Looks too fake!

[Wewonit5times]

The idea of becoming another Chelsea horrifies me, if it happens I might give up watching football alltogether.

Good for you

[Immoral King Brian Blessed]

having health insurance isn't an option for many people.

My friend who died had an ailment that he couldn't get cover for - only one company would touch him and it was near 1500 dollars per year.  He didn't have the money.

Thankfully the democrats are gonna look again at providing a decent free health care system for americans.

i.e. not a profit making/greed based system that the multitnationals and crooked republicans prefer.

Hahaha, the democrats are equally corrupt, and there will be no NHS equivalent, I can assure you.

Not happy I don't want success at any cost and just wish UEFA had some balls and implemented proposals to link a clubs expenditure to its income, that would stop rich billionires from ruining the game.

Many terrorists and crime dons from Mumbai also reside in that souless, ostentatious fake city in the desert they call Dubai. The place sounds like the closest place to hell on Earth up their with Vegas.

If wages etc are linked to income, then (for example) Roman would sponsor Chelsea for a hundred million a year and still get who he wants for however much he wants.

[courty61]

Yeah we'll get Nunez, that no mark chap from tenerife (right-back) among quite a few of Rafa's hit and mostly miss purchases at inflated prices, lets face it his judgement in the transfer market has been lacking, like buying Robbie and letting go of Pongelle.

Did he buy Nunez?! No- he got him because we needed a RM and Real wouldn't let go the guy Rafa wanted- plus Nunez played a role in get number 5- so it wasn't all bad.

Do you think Pongolle would be a content as Robbie is sitting on the bench?

Alonso, Garcia, Kuyt, Agger, Reina, Crouch, Carson, Bellamy- all really bad signings them aren't they?!

The idea of becoming another Chelsea horrifies me, if it happens I might give up watching football alltogether.

Good- don't want wankers like you following our club.

[NickoH]

Yeah we'll get Nunez, that no mark chap from tenerife (right-back) among quite a few of Rafa's hit and mostly miss purchases at inflated prices, lets face it his judgement in the transfer market has been lacking, like buying Robbie and letting go of Pongelle.

It throws up another question about is Rafa the right man to be handed a huge amount of money then ?

[redchiz]

Of course you have a choice. Don't like capitalism, go live in Cuba or China.

I had a feeling you'd come back with something like that. Yeah, I'll go and live in Cuba - i.e. if you don't like it, fuck off. Sound argument. China? Don't make me laugh. The biggest capitalist boom ever seen that will more than likely swallow the world economy in its wake. See how you like it when we have capitalism Chinese-style: exploitation without a hint of political freedom. Of course, if you don't like it, you can leave...

I wonder if it is possible to have two threads on this subject now; one to discuss the footballing implications of the deal and the other for the soapbox politicos to fight it out over their deeply-held views on life, the universe, and everything.

Perhaps we should have a third thread: "all inane posts in here, please." But you're spot on of course, there are no political implications to a deal like this whatsoever.

[Fanxxxxtastic]

Yeah we'll get Nunez, that no mark chap from tenerife (right-back) among quite a few of Rafa's hit and mostly miss purchases, lets face it his judgement in the transfer market has been lacking, like buying Robbie and letting go of Pongelle.

But he signed.

Agger,Garcia,Alonso,Crouch,Bellamy,Kuyt and Reina.

great signings.

With the jury still out on some of the others.

And most of them I hope with prove to be  good signings given the time.

Gonzalez,Aurelio,Pennant,Paletta

Right now isn't Pongelle still a Liverpool player?

[redchiz]

Do you think the new owners will put a red flag on every seat and expect us to wave it for the next Champions League home game?  Hope we dont end up going down this road like Chelsea did... Looks too fake!

I hope so. Quite like Red Flags, me! 

[Twelfth Customer]

Courty your just dazzled by the money, and no need to get abusive, perhaps your a true blue at heart, why don't you go and support Chelsea, your type would love it there.

[ˇBasta Ya!]

The idea of becoming another Chelsea horrifies me, if it happens I might give up watching football alltogether.

Courty your just dazzled by the money, and no need to get abusive, perhaps your a true blue at heart, why don't you go and support Chelsea, your type would love it there.

Surely you're taking the piss. You're the one being blinded by money, or the thought of it, even threatening not to support the club, or even watch football. If a few quid or an investor scares you that much, will you really be that much of a loss?

I suggest you read the last quote and follow your own advice.

[Fanxxxxtastic]

Well one things for sure the transfer rumour thread is going to be interesting reading this winter.

And I can't wait to read the summer one.

If the deal goes ahead of course.

[The dude abides]

Hahaha, the democrats are equally corrupt, and there will be no NHS equivalent, I can assure you.

in the western civilised world, no-one can equal the present Merikan regime for corruptness.

Tho new labour have made a damn good stab at it.

[ˇBasta Ya!]

It throws up another question about is Rafa the right man to be handed a huge amount of money then ?

Of course he is, even those "failures" mentioned by "the twelfth quitter"  turned out to make us more money than we paid for them. Got both Nunez and Josemi for a combined fee of 2m and got a fee for both Nunez and Kromkamp (who was swapped with Josemi).

He has pulled of some superb transfer deals with relatively little money (with just a handful that didn't work out). He will be free to buy the players he missed out on (like Alves, Villa and others) due to money.