Author Topic: Liverpool request new date for Blackburn game. At long last..... (Read 3691 times)

Anthony · « **Reply #40 on:** March 15, 2006, 05:12:46 pm »

I have quite a bit of sympathy with the Blackburn fans, especially those who held off booking travel until the date had been confirmed (Easter Weekend as well), but the game should have been played TONIGHT instead of moving a game which, it transpires now, didn't have to be moved anyway.

Either that or played on Good Friday (instead of the Manc Match) with any FA Cup replay being played on the Tuesday - our problem if we end up playing 4 games in 9 days.

At least, if my memory serves me right, it will be another 11 years before 15th April next falls on a Saturday but I wonder what will ever happen if it falls on a Euro night (when it will be much more difficult to persuade UEFA to accomodate our needs)...

porttroop · « **Reply #41 on:** March 15, 2006, 05:41:59 pm »

Quote from: redchiz on March 15, 2006, 02:04:43 pm

Fair play to Parry. Perhaps he has in fact listened to the many voices of protest that were raised. Now that they've gone public on it, surely there must be a very good chance that it can be moved.

Do you really think RP gives a fuck !!!!

Hope any change of date does not spoil anyb of his dinner party arrangements...

Murf · « **Reply #42 on:** March 15, 2006, 05:48:54 pm »

11 years before the 15th falls on a Saturday, its a Sunday next season, could be picked again later for the cameras, maybe we might have to play on a Sunday because we are in the UEFA cup on a Thursday (if we do an Everton).

Spartacus. · « **Reply #43 on:** March 15, 2006, 05:52:33 pm »

To be honest a can understand the Blackburn fans being a bit pissed off?

Don’t agree with some of their comments like and it wouldn’t hurt for them to show a little compassion all things considered.

Anyway, I’m not getting too carried away. It’s not been changed yet.

red through and through · « **Reply #44 on:** March 15, 2006, 05:57:37 pm »

Best solution

Starsky17 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 15, 2006, 06:00:43 pm »

About fucking time too. Still get the impression from RP that he couldn't really care less though. LFC should NEVER play on the 15th, and I for one would take whatever penalties the FA want to throw at us for flatly refusing to play.

JFT 96

AS · « **Reply #46 on:** March 15, 2006, 06:32:24 pm »

Really pissed off now. The game should stay on the 15th for Rovers fans who have made arrangements, some travelling from far afield. If we insist on the 15th at the revised time of 5.15 we'll be branded the villains in all this, and all because Parry couldn'y be arsed or organised well in advance.

Let Parry apologise to the fans for screwing up, leave the game at 5.15 an change it for next year.

Still we're the little club in all this eh ?

amallorcanred · « **Reply #47 on:** March 15, 2006, 07:28:23 pm »

AS sorry mate but fer fucks sake if you had of been there that day or had family or friends who where how would you have felt eh. Really pissed of well mate you will get over the pissed of feeling and next year wont even cross your mind. We can and will never forget. This is not about Parry or whoever this is about football fans like you who left to watch a match and never come home anyone who was there that horrible day lives with it everyday of there lives. Sorry AS going into a rant and I never really talk about it cause I seen things that day that has changed my life that still to this day fucks my head up so sorry about you being pissed of and all just put your feet in our boots and think how you would feel. Sorry again Rant over and Justice for the 96. Made many mistakes in that sorry to yous all but first post on that day find it too hard. YNWA. 96

Quote from: AS on March 15, 2006, 06:32:24 pm

Really pissed off now. The game should stay on the 15th for Rovers fans who have made arrangements, some travelling from far afield. If we insist on the 15th at the revised time of 5.15 we'll be branded the villains in all this, and all because Parry couldn'y be arsed or organised well in advance.

Let Parry apologise to the fans for screwing up, leave the game at 5.15 an change it for next year.

Still we're the little club in all this eh ?

kopite789 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 15, 2006, 08:10:39 pm »

As the games on sky it will probably depend on wherther they want to televise it on another date, as blackburn will probably reject any move that will cost them television money.

happyrover · « **Reply #49 on:** March 15, 2006, 08:52:44 pm »

The fixtures came out in June last year. You asked for a change and we agreed to what you asked for- the later kick off on 15 April.

What angers me is the way Parry is asking for another change.

Just because you played like a bunch of pansies against Benfica, woops you've got some free dates so you are putting the onus on our club to sort out your inability to resolve a problem you knew about 9 months ago. And you are asking the Rovers when Sky who are televising the game will have at least 50% of the say in whether they allow Rovers and Liverpool to muck up their Easter schedule.

Of course had you not wussed up against Benfica, you would have all been happy and none of this would have been an issue.

OK fine change it- but pay the Rovers fans you are inconveniencing compensation. How about offering us all free travel to the match?- Rovers did that for the Sunderland fans for their rearranged fixture at Ewood.

Loyal Red · « **Reply #50 on:** March 15, 2006, 08:53:29 pm »

Quote from: happyrover on March 15, 2006, 08:52:44 pm

The fixtures came out in June last year. You asked for a change and we agreed to what you asked for- the later kick off on 15 April.

What angers me is the way Parry is asking for another change.

Just because you played like a bunch of pansies against Benfica, woops you've got some free dates so you are putting the onus on our club to sort out your inability to resolve a problem you knew about 9 months ago. And you are asking the Rovers when Sky who are televising the game will have at least 50% of the say in whether they allow Rovers and Liverpool to muck up their Easter schedule.

Of course had you not wussed up against Benfica, you would have all been happy and none of this would have been an issue.

OK fine change it- but pay the Rovers fans you are inconveniencing compensation. How about offering us all free travel to the match?- Rovers did that for the Sunderland fans for their rearranged fixture at Ewood.

Have a bit of respect...

happyrover · « **Reply #51 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:10:23 pm »

We've shown respect by telling LFC OK change it. You changed it to a date and time that suited LFC and we agreed with it.

But please do not change it again because you were even poorer against Benfica than Man U were. Then to use your getting knocked out as an excuse for suddenly realising you need to show respect whereas playing on 15 April would have been OK if you were still in the Champions League. That's what Rick Parry is saying in a nutshell.

The lack of respect was shown by LFC not communicating its wishes not to play on 15 April to the Premiership before the fixtures were compiled last June.

There is no lack of respect from either the Rovers fans or from the club.

Loyal Red · « **Reply #52 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:11:02 pm »

Are all Blackburn fans this thick?

AJ · « **Reply #53 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:12:38 pm »

Narrow minded idiot.

OK, I can see why some fans would be agrieved at us wanting to change the date but the way you lot are going on, it's as if every fan is travelling from the far east for this game. We, were never completely happy with simply having the time of the game changed. It was simply the best resolution at the time. It was still far from perfect as the dedicated fans who wanted to do both would be in no fit state to attend a game after a service of that kind. Have a bit of respect, now that we've got the chance to respect our dead friends, family and follow supporters, now that the club and directors have the chance to do the same, don't complain about it. It would cost some of you a few quid extra, it would break the hearts of many to have to make a choice of that magnitude on that day.

AJ · « **Reply #54 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:14:51 pm »

Quote from: happyrover on March 15, 2006, 09:10:23 pm

That's what Rick Parry is saying in a nutshell.

Yes, Rick Parry. The majority of us don't agree with Rick Parry anyway. It's his fault we're in this mess. We should NEVER be made to play on that date and it was him who accepted it in the first place. Don't blame the fans, and make them choose between respecting the dead and watching their beloved Liverpool, just because of a mistake that Parry made.

happyrover · « **Reply #55 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:15:14 pm »

I waited for the game to be changed because LFC couldn't get it right last June.

I bought my air ticket so I can go to the game.

If LFC want to change the date of the game just because they lost to Benfica, they can buy me a replacement air ticket.

AJ · « **Reply #56 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:16:09 pm »

Quote from: happyrover on March 15, 2006, 09:15:14 pm

I waited for the game to be changed because LFC couldn't get it right last June.

I bought my air ticket so I can go to the game.

If LFC want to change the date of the game just because they lost to Benfica, they can buy me a replacement air ticket.

The complaint about the date of this game has outdated the Benfica result by a long time, don't be so naive.

happyrover · « **Reply #57 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:22:12 pm »

This is what Rick Parry is quoted as saying on this site:

"When we were progressing in the FA Cup and the Champions League the problem of finding a new date got bigger.

"Now we are out of Europe, there may be some scope to look once again but it's not just our fixtures to consider, it's Blackburn's as well and this is their home fixture at the end of the day."

In other words- there was no issue about changing it again if you hadn't lost to Benfica.

Its not me or the Rovers not showing respect, its LFC.

I am fortunate, I could go on another day if LFC replace my air ticket.

AJ · « **Reply #58 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:27:28 pm »

No, Parry is saying that when we were still in Europe a resolution was going to be hard to find because of our congested fixture list. This is why he settled for a later kick off, because that is all that was available. It was always an issue for the fans, none of us ever wanted to play on that date. Now that we are out of Europe, there are now dates that have become available for the game to be moved to. Obviously, the decision doesn't lie with you, but I think you complaining about it does show a distinct lack of respect.

AS · « **Reply #59 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:34:05 pm »

Ever occurred to you that happyrover maybe a bluenose? Sorry, but as a moderate, level rover living on merseyside I have decided that it should be played at the revised time, 15th of April.

You should be venting your fury at the board, it's just not fair on us.

hide5seek · « **Reply #60 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:37:38 pm »

Many are venting their fury at 'OUR' board, why'd you think they've suddenly decided to try and change it?

happyrover · « **Reply #61 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:37:50 pm »

I'll go on another day if LFC replace my air ticket.

Parry is the guy making the decisions at LFC so far as I can tell.

As for lack of respect, I e-mailed the day after the fixtures came out last June knowing it was the Hillsborough day and Easter so I could travel and was told you had asked for an away game on 15 April.

AJ · « **Reply #62 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:40:39 pm »

Whoever he supports doesn't take away from the fact that he's being disrespectful. There's more important things than the price of his air tickets, and remembering the dead is one of those things.

Unfortunately for you, your 'decision' has no standing whatsoever. Blackburn, Sky and the FA will decide what happens and narrow minded opinions like your own will not make a difference. How is it not fair on you? It's a home game for you, so it's much easier for you to get there.

I'll tell you who it's not fair on. It's not fair on the fans of Liverpool Football Club, who knew someone or had some kind of relation at Hillsborough, who have to decided between remembering the dead, or watching their beloved football club, for whom those people died, play.

Stop being so selfish. It's not about us, the club, or the board. It's about respecting those who died in the most tragic footballing disaster to date. Your later kick off just isn't good enough.

AJ · « **Reply #63 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:42:33 pm »

Quote from: happyrover on March 15, 2006, 09:37:50 pm

I'll go on another day if LFC replace my air ticket.

Parry is the guy making the decisions at LFC so far as I can tell.

As for lack of respect, I e-mailed the day after the fixtures came out last June knowing it was the Hillsborough day and Easter so I could travel and was told you had asked for an away game on 15 April.

Bollocks. Nobody asks for specific fixtures on specific dates. The fixtures are generated by whatever means then chopped and changed for Sky, for clashes with other competitions etc. As 15/4 is a Saturday this year there was always a high chance that we would be given a game on that day. To say that we asked for it is stupid quite frankly.

kopite789 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:45:34 pm »

Quote from: AS on March 15, 2006, 09:34:05 pm

Ever occurred to you that happyrover maybe a bluenose? Sorry, but as a moderate, level rover living on merseyside I have decided that it should be played at the revised time, 15th of April.

You should be venting your fury at the board, it's just not fair on us.

What makes it so unfair on you, if the game is changed in the next few days you will have 4 weeks to change any plans. Rightly or wrongly many games nowadays are changed at short notice its part and parcel of football.

happyrover · « **Reply #65 on:** March 15, 2006, 09:48:24 pm »

AS, I was at Ewood celebrating Simon Garner creating a new record when we beat City 4-0.

I'll never forget going from a state of euphoria to utter shock when I heard the news from Hillsborough driving up Livesey Branch Road aftyer the game. As a football fan I was gutted and devastated by what had happened and absolutely sickened by the Sun's coverage afterwards. We all know how stupid Police tactics in "crowd control" and downright dangerous stadium design was in those days. It was a case of there but for the grace for all of us.

This is not a matter of lack of respect- people show their respect in different ways and playing the game at a later time IS showing respect.

But it is difficult for me to get to Rovers games and this is one I can get to with all tickets booked. Now, just because Benfica knocked Liverpool out, everything is back in confusion again.

AS · « **Reply #66 on:** March 15, 2006, 10:00:24 pm »

Quote from: happyrover on March 15, 2006, 09:48:24 pm

AS, I was at Ewood celebrating Simon Garner creating a new record when we beat City 4-0.

I'll never forget going from a state of euphoria to utter shock when I heard the news from Hillsborough driving up Livesey Branch Road aftyer the game. As a football fan I was gutted and devastated by what had happened and absolutely sickened by the Sun's coverage afterwards. We all know how stupid Police tactics in "crowd control" and downright dangerous stadium design was in those days. It was a case of there but for the grace for all of us.

This is not a matter of lack of respect- people show their respect in different ways and playing the game at a later time IS showing respect.

But it is difficult for me to get to Rovers games and this is one I can get to with all tickets booked. Now, just because Benfica knocked Liverpool out, everything is back in confusion again.

That's fair enough mate and I think it's a waste of time posting on here now. It's clear that their board screwed up on the dates and following them getting egged by Benfica the diary is once again *ahem* less clustered. And who has to give way? Little old Blackburn Rovers, who graciously agreed to avoid an afternoon kick off and allow the service at Anfield to be unaffected.

Parry obviously didn't give a monkey's before, but following stickers, banners, soccer am, weird petitions, emails, letters etc he might have felt a tad unpopular. So now it has to be another date and who gets fucked around? Little old Blackburn Rovers.

And the masterstroke? In much the same way we only get 12 seconds on Match of the Day even after turning ManUre over twice in the league, stuffing Arsenal etc etc, the only club that will be discussed in all this is Liverpool. And if we stand our ground we'll be branded insensitive.

Where's the 'justice' in that?

Spartacus. · « **Reply #67 on:** March 15, 2006, 11:48:30 pm »

Quote from: stuwilky on March 15, 2006, 11:21:33 pm

Hi Chris,

Im a Blackburn fan and wanted to message you rather than start a new topic on the matter of our fixture.

Before I start I must let you know that I fully support the HCJ cause and the like, I have vivid memories of that day and was fairly vocal on the matter of this match being moved several months ago on two of our major forums, amongst other places!

However I am disturbed by some comments in the thread which has been closed and feel I must respond to something which have really got my goat, I understand entirely why the thread has been closed, but when posters make comments like
"the computer makes all the fixtures" which is total nonsense, LFC could have requested the 15th be kept free, but didnt.

Liverpool FC have cocked up badly and that is indisputable, and to be fair I dont see anyone trying to justify it, but I now know people who have spent large amount of money of travel arrangements, includign 30 folks who are coming over from Norway especially, they deliberately waited, and thus missing the few cheap airfares from over there, for the match to be moved as well fully expected a Sunday kick off, once LFC confirmed they were "very happy" with a 5.15pm kick off they spent thousands on flights to return on Sunday at 9am.

They are just one example.

As I say I fully understand, and am not trying to be difficult in any way, but there are several sides to this story and that of fans who face personal financial loss is but one of them.
and again I am not trying to compare that to 15/4/89 in any way, but given LFC's behaviour I can understand entirely why they feel aggrieved.

I dont have the answers.

I would appreciate if it was possible to add this to the thread and wish you all the very best for the rest of the season, and truly hope you beat the mancs to 2nd place.

YNWA

Stuart

Thanks Stuart.