Author Topic: Still one more signing .... perhaps (Victor from Deportivo) (Read 33897 times)

montse · « **Reply #320 on:** January 30, 2006, 05:45:45 PM »

In the Robbie interview (with Parry and Rafa), Rafa answers question about Victor and spoke about a prospective deal with Deportivo which involved Mark Gonzales moving in the opposite direction (on loan?). but there were difficulties with Deportivo and we decided to not to proceed with Victor, allowing Gonzales to make a move to Sociedad.

Mikie · « **Reply #321 on:** January 30, 2006, 06:14:40 PM »

Quote from: montse on January 30, 2006, 05:45:45 PM

In the Robbie interview (with Parry and Rafa), Rafa answers question about Victor and spoke about a prospective deal with Deportivo which involved Mark Gonzales moving in the opposite direction (on loan?). but there were difficulties with Deportivo and we decided to not to proceed with Victor, allowing Gonzales to make a move to Sociedad.

Yeah apparently he's having a medical today/tonight with Real and will be staying there til the summer, if all goes ok. Will defo be watching Real on telly.

walshys_mullet · « **Reply #322 on:** January 30, 2006, 08:58:51 PM »

At footy practice tonight a few of the lads were talking about a Defoe/Cisse swap, it was then followed up by another lad who was told Defoe arrived in Liverpool via the airport over the weekend. It came from the same source as Fowlers rumours, also The SWP deal could happen.

I guess we will see tomorow but its pretty feasible, Defoe cant get a game for Spurs and it would be a great chance for him to build his England credentials.

Curva Nord '77 · « **Reply #323 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:02:59 PM »

Quote from: walshys_mullet on January 30, 2006, 08:58:51 PM

At footy practice tonight a few of the lads were talking about a Defoe/Cisse swap, it was then followed up by another lad who was told Defoe arrived in Liverpool via the airport over the weekend. It came from the same source as Fowlers rumours, also The SWP deal could happen.

I guess we will see tomorow but its pretty feasible, Defoe cant get a game for Spurs and it would be a great chance for him to build his England credentials.

Could also be in town for the bluenoses too. Although why would you sign for them if we were in the frame?

I think we need to sign someone now we've lost out on Victor. For me, the team are starting to show signs of fatigue and as many new faces as possible now would do me.

walshys_mullet · « **Reply #324 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:03:58 PM »

and barton handed in a transfer request tonight too...

Cusamano · « **Reply #325 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:06:20 PM »

Quote from: walshys_mullet on January 30, 2006, 09:03:58 PM

and barton handed in a transfer request tonight too...

Been rejected.

eurochamps05 · « **Reply #326 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:09:28 PM »

Quote from: walshys_mullet on January 30, 2006, 08:58:51 PM

At footy practice tonight a few of the lads were talking about a Defoe/Cisse swap, it was then followed up by another lad who was told Defoe arrived in Liverpool via the airport over the weekend. It came from the same source as Fowlers rumours, also The SWP deal could happen.

I guess we will see tomorow but its pretty feasible, Defoe cant get a game for Spurs and it would be a great chance for him to build his England credentials.

Dont believe any of that. If Rafa is planning to use Cisse on the RW, as he suggested in his comments today, then why would he swap him for a striker? Maureen said that nobody else will be leaving Chelsea so that should put the SWP to bed. Wishful thinking but I think weve made our final signing.

RogerTheRed · « **Reply #327 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:11:17 PM »

I thought Cisse did OK on right, Kromkamp was OK going forward BUT - have you read the reports from th eYouth team. Young Paul Anderson was MOM again. Why not give him a go?

walshys_mullet · « **Reply #328 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:12:06 PM »

Quote from: eurochamps05 on January 30, 2006, 09:09:28 PM

Dont believe any of that. If Rafa is planning to use Cisse on the RW, as he suggested in his comments today, then why would he swap him for a striker? Maureen said that nobody else will be leaving Chelsea so that should put the SWP to bed. Wishful thinking but I think weve made our final signing.

Could well be, but they've been pretty on the nail before. They predicted Gerrard to Chelsea which was correct until he changed his mind and Owen to Newcastle.

I guess we will know tomorrow.

Spanish Armada · « **Reply #329 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:12:52 PM »

Quote from: RogerTheRed on January 30, 2006, 09:11:17 PM

I thought Cisse did OK on right, Kromkamp was OK going forward BUT - have you read the reports from th eYouth team. Young Paul Anderson was MOM again. Why not give him a go?

Don't want to rush him. Although he does look VERY impressive.

Quote from: walshys_mullet on January 30, 2006, 08:58:51 PM

another lad who was told Defoe arrived in Liverpool via the airport over the weekend.

Got to admit, although I usually hate rumours along these lines, that I heard the same.

walshys_mullet · « **Reply #330 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:14:44 PM »

Quote from: Cusamano on January 30, 2006, 09:06:20 PM

Been rejected.

Aye but that wont stop him leaving and City need the cash. All indications are it may be a switch to United for about 6 million.

fudge · « **Reply #331 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:33:06 PM »

its amazed me how long Defoes been left out of the spurs team,always looked class to me

RedBoywonder · « **Reply #332 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:34:20 PM »

Quote from: walshys_mullet on January 30, 2006, 09:14:44 PM

Aye but that wont stop him leaving and City need the cash. All indications are it may be a switch to United for about 6 million.

Fuckin ell Stevie, have a word with your mate & tell him to fuck united off!

DK · « **Reply #333 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:36:03 PM »

Quote from: walshys_mullet on January 30, 2006, 09:14:44 PM

Aye but that wont stop him leaving and City need the cash. All indications are it may be a switch to United for about 6 million.

That's going to go down a treat in Manc.

kkhaku · « **Reply #334 on:** January 30, 2006, 10:05:22 PM »

Is the Victor deal off for certain?

KeenoXI · « **Reply #335 on:** January 30, 2006, 10:07:03 PM »

Nothing's certain with Rafa's transfers but it looks as good as off.

KeenoXI · « **Reply #336 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:00:57 PM »

I think this confirms it

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=358695&CPID=23&clid=&lid=2&title=Liverpool+end+Victor+interest

Liverpool have ended their interest in signing Victor from Deportivo La Coruna after failing to reach an agreement with the Spanish club

With the transfer window closing on Tuesday, there was not enough time for talks to continue and so the move is now dead.

Reports in Spain suggest that Depor refused to budge in the negotiations and Reds boss Rafa Benitez pulled the plug on the deal that was expected to go through this week.

Victor's contract at Riazor expires in the summer and the player is hopeful that the deal can be resurrected then.

Spanish news agency EFE reported that Depor were keen to include Liverpool winger Mark Gonzalez as part of any deal, but when the Premiership side refused the discussions were brought to a halt.

Gonzalez has since joined Real Sociedad on loan for the rest of the season, while Victor is preparing to earn his place back in the Depor side in order to earn a move at the end of the current campaign.

The Infamous_LFC · « **Reply #337 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:03:24 PM »

Will the right wing ever be occupied?

Liverbird 2010 · « **Reply #338 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:06:08 PM »

Quote from: Ryda_XxLFCXx on January 30, 2006, 11:03:24 PM

Will the right wing ever be occupied?

Believe that Anderson had a cracking game tonight and has been playing well for the ressies, wouldnt harm letting him train with the first team and try and get into the squad if weve got no one else.

DK · « **Reply #339 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:14:01 PM »

Quote from: Ryda_XxLFCXx on January 30, 2006, 11:03:24 PM

Will the right wing ever be occupied?

No. It will remain vacant forever more and we will play with 10 men (leaving the right empty, of course) in an ongoing mark of respect to those devastating times when we did not have a recognised RW.

European Cup, 3rd in the league (with games in hand on 2nd), last sixteen of FA cup. Not bad going for not having a regular, recognised RW is it?

We will survive another 6 months.

Mark_P · « **Reply #340 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:16:16 PM »

What's happened to the money? We bid £8m for Simao, a few million on various centre halfs and £9m for Owen in the summer ... we've made money from going through in the Champion's League, and playing in the World Club Championship ... how come we're skint after spending £5.8m, some of which is to be paid in istallments?

DK · « **Reply #341 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:18:07 PM »

Quote from: Mark_P on January 30, 2006, 11:16:16 PM

What's happened to the money? We bid £8m for Simao, a few million on various centre halfs and £9m for Owen in the summer ... we've made money from going through in the Champion's League, and playing in the World Club Championship ... how come we're skint after spending £5.8m, some of which is to be paid in istallments?

More a case of Rafa choosing when to spend it and waiting for the right player to come along rather than splashing the cash, i think.

KeenoXI · « **Reply #342 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:18:26 PM »

Maybe something to do with the greater costs of the new stadium?

The Infamous_LFC · « **Reply #343 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:18:30 PM »

Quote from: DK on January 30, 2006, 11:14:01 PM

No. It will remain vacant forever more and we will play with 10 men (leaving the right empty, of course) in an ongoing mark of respect to those devastating times when we did not have a recognised RW.

European Cup, 3rd in the league (with games in hand on 2nd), last sixteen of FA cup. Not bad going for not having a regular, recognised RW is it?

We will survive another 6 months.

Thanks for the reassurance

Young anderson is doing well from what i heard and saw (wolves reserves game). Hope he can break in to the first team next season or the end of the season. the sooner the better

StanBull · « **Reply #344 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:18:40 PM »

Who says we're skint?

RedBoywonder · « **Reply #345 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:21:44 PM »

Quote from: DK on January 30, 2006, 11:18:07 PM

More a case of Rafa choosing when to spend it and waiting for the right player to come along rather than splashing the cash, i think.

Spot on

The Infamous_LFC · « **Reply #346 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:24:36 PM »

There will be alot of options in right wing in the summer. There is the possibility of victor on a free, Betis might get relegated with joaquin coming our way, SWP will be pissed of after not making it to the WC, Brimingham might get relegated so pennant might want to leave,Simao might ask to leave etc.....

Rafa will sure hope some teams might get relegated. Or at least some stars might want to leave.

"possiblities?............ For sure!!"

Keg · « **Reply #347 on:** January 30, 2006, 11:33:08 PM »

Quote from: StanBull on January 30, 2006, 11:18:40 PM

Who says we're skint?

We do need investment though...slight understatement. For two transfer windows we have failed to bring in a right sided midfielder to allow Gerrard to move into his favoured central position where he's at his most effective. This failure is sure to piss him off as he stated before the window opened that he was really excited and looking forward to the new right sided player coming in...he's sacrificed himself by filling out on the right and doing what is best for the team, but it would be even better for the team with him bursting through the centre and having a natural right winger out wide to maintain the balance of the team.

whitey1234 · « **Reply #348 on:** January 31, 2006, 12:51:37 AM »

Quote from: RogerTheRed on January 30, 2006, 09:11:17 PM

I thought Cisse did OK on right, Kromkamp was OK going forward BUT - have you read the reports from th eYouth team. Young Paul Anderson was MOM again. Why not give him a go?

This guy is very impressive, and will get his chance sooner rather than later IMO.

neil4ad · « **Reply #349 on:** January 31, 2006, 01:15:45 AM »

Reading reports on Anderson, however, it sounds like he's at least a year away. While he has the tricks and the pace, he'll need to bulk up a bit as he's a bit underweight.

I've always thought that Sinama could do a decent job on the right wing -- what do you think?

Notayesman · « **Reply #350 on:** January 31, 2006, 02:13:37 AM »

All this f*cking panic so we can have Gerrard back in the centre! It completely ignores the fact that he's playing his best football in a long time (as he admitted himself) and that this also coincided with a record breaking run for the club. I'm sorry but I do not see the urgency here. Lets wait till the summer and see whats available then.

Raul! · « **Reply #351 on:** January 31, 2006, 04:14:20 AM »

Quote from: neil4ad on January 31, 2006, 01:15:45 AM

Reading reports on Anderson, however, it sounds like he's at least a year away. While he has the tricks and the pace, he'll need to bulk up a bit as he's a bit underweight.

I've always thought that Sinama could do a decent job on the right wing -- what do you think?

Don't agree on Anderson. The only thing against him in my opinion is the lack of experience. Saw the reserves highlights against Wolves and he was rampant. Didn'tlook a pushover either.

SMD · « **Reply #352 on:** January 31, 2006, 06:46:50 AM »

But there's a big difference today between reserves and first team level. This is why the reserves are now composed of mainly 18-19 year olds as opposed to a truly second string.

Leave Anderson and if he makes the step up, he makes the step up. No need for him to be touted from now.

jt13 · « **Reply #353 on:** January 31, 2006, 07:13:26 AM »

oh well...we need some tho...

Dundalis · « **Reply #354 on:** January 31, 2006, 07:18:23 AM »

Quote from: Notayesman on January 31, 2006, 02:13:37 AM

All this f*cking panic so we can have Gerrard back in the centre! It completely ignores the fact that he's playing his best football in a long time (as he admitted himself) and that this also coincided with a record breaking run for the club. I'm sorry but I do not see the urgency here. Lets wait till the summer and see whats available then.

Yep but he's played like crap the past three or four games, or at least distinctly average, crap by his high standards. He isn't getting involved in the play at all, and he has been playing on the right. We won't be keeping up the same form unless he snaps out of it.

Raul! · « **Reply #355 on:** January 31, 2006, 07:23:06 AM »

Quote from: Spam Monkey Deluxe on January 31, 2006, 06:46:50 AM

But there's a big difference today between reserves and first team level. This is why the reserves are now composed of mainly 18-19 year olds as opposed to a truly second string.

Leave Anderson and if he makes the step up, he makes the step up. No need for him to be touted from now.

As I said, the only thing he seems to be lacking is experience.

How does he make the step up though, unless he is is tried out at some point?

Something Else · « **Reply #356 on:** January 31, 2006, 08:06:37 AM »

anyone else about gutted that routledge moved without a mention of us in the frame for him,

Carra'sPoundCoin · « **Reply #357 on:** January 31, 2006, 08:08:13 AM »

I agree with the Anderson comments. He's got the lot. No harm giving him a go

rocco · « **Reply #358 on:** January 31, 2006, 08:12:53 AM »

If flo is loaned out to Blackburn , then maybe the victor deal isn't quite dead yet ?

Bennett · « **Reply #359 on:** January 31, 2006, 08:13:47 AM »

Or the Defoe ones.