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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2016, 04:48:58 pm »
Top 8 Table updated

Played the most and have the best record... nice! I think from memory we got 21 points from those teams last season, so to be half way there already is very encouraging.

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2016, 06:09:34 pm »
Played the most and have the best record... nice! I think from memory we got 21 points from those teams last season, so to be half way there already is very encouraging.

From these same games we got 8 points last year vs 11 this, with the gains against Arsenal and Manchester Untied, and the other results matching.

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2016, 06:48:43 pm »
That top 8 table has me giddy. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here but so far we have 11 points from 5 games against the top 8, with 9 more games to play. Amazing how much better we're doing against the the top 8 vs last season.

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2016, 09:34:53 pm »
Alright, I'll try and keep this up if I can (Click to enlarge):



Shaded cells are teams that have been replaced.

And this is how I've replaced promoted/relegated teams over the seasons:



Finally updated this. Looking good so far!
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2016, 09:40:46 pm »
So we are up 3 points on 13/14 and 8 points on last season? That's good stuff! Thanks, Deo.

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2016, 08:49:29 am »
Alright, I'll try and keep this up if I can (Click to enlarge):



Shaded cells are teams that have been replaced.

And this is how I've replaced promoted/relegated teams over the seasons:


Thanks again Deo. It is a thing of beauty.

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2016, 11:17:46 pm »
Top 8 Table updated:

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2016, 12:07:38 am »
Good to see how we are comparing to 13/14. Time to avenge that fucking 3-3 that still haunts me.
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2016, 12:23:22 am »
Benteke's gonna be a nightmare against us, won't he?
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2016, 12:32:00 am »
Benteke's gonna be a nightmare against us, won't he?
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2016, 11:55:07 am »
Last 3 seasons we drew the games at Everton from winning position. Put that records straight too!!!

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2016, 11:44:04 pm »
Top 8 table updated

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2016, 05:33:33 pm »
Season to go summary:

IMO, may need 86 points for the title this year & United are already out of the title fight.

Table looks a lot like 2013/4 at this point.

23 points is a decent amount for this point in the season, only exceeded by 2 teams in the last 3 seasons.

Amazing how often Arsenal start well, then fade  ;D

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2016, 05:47:44 pm »
Alright, I'll try and keep this up if I can (Click to enlarge):



Shaded cells are teams that have been replaced.

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Updated!
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2016, 05:51:36 pm »
Thanks Deo!

Wow, we're +5 pts ahead of 13/14's pace
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #55 on: November 6, 2016, 05:15:06 pm »
Top 8 table updated

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #56 on: November 6, 2016, 05:27:51 pm »
Alright, I'll try and keep this up if I can (Click to enlarge):



Shaded cells are teams that have been replaced.

And this is how I've replaced promoted/relegated teams over the seasons:



Updated too!

+7 on our 14/15 season lol! If we can maintain the following form similar to that season (W21, D2, L4), we'll end up on 91 points! Pretty hard to do, but not impossible!
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #57 on: November 6, 2016, 05:57:26 pm »
Updated season to go  ;D

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #58 on: November 6, 2016, 06:58:00 pm »
LFC's Best Starts After 11 Games Since 3 Points For A Win


1=  1990/91  -  31 points  [finished 2nd:  76 points from 38 games]
1=  1987/88  -  31 points  [finished 1st:  90 points from 40 games]

3.  2002/03  -  27 points  [finished 5th:  64 points from 38 games]

4=  2008/09  -  26 points  [finished 2nd:  86 points from 38 games]
4=  2016/17  -  26 points  [GD this year +16; it was +8 in 08/09]

6=  1983/84  -  23 points  [finished 1st:  80 points from 42 games]
6=  1994/95  -  23 points  [finished 4th:  74 points from 42 games]
6=  1995/96  -  23 points  [finished 3rd:  71 points from 38 games]
6=  1996/97  -  23 points  [finished 4th:  68 points from 38 games]
6=  2001/02  -  23 points  [finished 2nd:  80 points from 38 games]
6=  2013/14  -  23 points  [finished 2nd:  84 points from 38 games]


Goals

This season we have 30 goals after 11 games.  4 more than anyone else.

By way of comparison with our last three seasons as eventual runners-up.

At this stage in 08/09, we had scored 16 goals.  Eventual champions MU had 20.  League leaders, Chelsea, had the most with 27.

At this stage in 13/14, we had scored 21 goals.  Eventual champions MC had the most with 28.  League leaders, Arsenal, had  22. 

At this stage in 01/02, we had scored 21 goals.  Eventual champions ARS had 24.  After 11 games, we were League leaders, and MU, had the most goals with 28.


So, while this is not a representative sample, and it's certainly a small sample size, 30 goals seems quite high at this stage.  Higher, for example, than all 3 teams who have got more than 100 goals in recent seasons.  (In 09/10, Chelsea had 28 goals after 11 games).




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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #59 on: November 6, 2016, 07:42:29 pm »
I noticed during the week that betvictor had us at 20/1 to hit 100 goals this season which got me looking at the stats in comparison with 13/14 when we finished with 101 goals. After 10 games in 13/14 we had 17, whereas we had 24 this time.

I know in 13/14 we started with a few 1-0 wins and it was the second half of the season we started putting 4/5/6's past teams but I thought 20/1 was worth a few quid. Even after scoring 6 today we still need to average over 2.5 goals per game but this current side has it in them to annihilate some of the dross in this league.


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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #60 on: November 6, 2016, 08:27:09 pm »
I noticed during the week that betvictor had us at 20/1 to hit 100 goals this season which got me looking at the stats in comparison with 13/14 when we finished with 101 goals. After 10 games in 13/14 we had 17, whereas we had 24 this time.

I know in 13/14 we started with a few 1-0 wins and it was the second half of the season we started putting 4/5/6's past teams but I thought 20/1 was worth a few quid. Even after scoring 6 today we still need to average over 2.5 goals per game but this current side has it in them to annihilate some of the dross in this league.

After Suarez returned we sort of went goal crazy. 5 goals in the first 5 games, Suarez returned, we scored 3 in his first game back and ended up scoring 96 in the 33 games he played. That's fucking nuts when you think about it. How we didn't win the league that year I'll never understand.
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #61 on: November 6, 2016, 08:34:56 pm »
Updated too!

+7 on our 14/15 season lol! If we can maintain the following form similar to that season (W21, D2, L4), we'll end up on 91 points! Pretty hard to do, but not impossible!

Have you got the Swansea score backwards? - should read 1-2 for the away win.
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #62 on: November 7, 2016, 04:41:32 pm »
Have you got the Swansea score backwards? - should read 1-2 for the away win.

You're right! I'll fix that in the next update.
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #63 on: November 7, 2016, 05:50:45 pm »
I don't know if it's my memory playing tricks on me but I thought we were a bit slow out of the blocks back in 13/14 compared to how we are doing now.  Not sure if the information here bears that out but we really do seem to be on top of things at the moment.
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #64 on: November 7, 2016, 06:40:22 pm »
I don't know if it's my memory playing tricks on me but I thought we were a bit slow out of the blocks back in 13/14 compared to how we are doing now.  Not sure if the information here bears that out but we really do seem to be on top of things at the moment.

Started with a series of 1-0s. I remember thinking how funny it would be to win every game 1-0: 38 wins, 108 points, 38 for, 0 against, GD of +38...
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #65 on: November 7, 2016, 06:48:27 pm »
First three were 1-0, then 2-2 vs Swansea and then a 1-0 loss to Southampton. The last game I went to :(

23 points from the first eleven games.
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #66 on: November 7, 2016, 07:14:41 pm »
We didn't have Luis till October that year though because of the Ivanovic bite. He came back vs Sunderland I think. We won that 1-3.
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« Reply #67 on: November 7, 2016, 07:17:28 pm »
Started with a series of 1-0s. I remember thinking how funny it would be to win every game 1-0: 38 wins, 108 points, 38 for, 0 against, GD of +38...

Oddly enough I've often wondered what would happen to a club that drew all 38 games 0-0... 38 points and 0 GD might actually be enough to stay up - although the fans would probably mutiny...
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #68 on: November 7, 2016, 07:18:45 pm »
Oddly enough I've often wondered what would happen to a club that drew all 38 games 0-0... 38 points and 0 GD might actually be enough to stay up - although the fans would probably mutiny...

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #69 on: November 7, 2016, 07:24:41 pm »
Everton would bring out an "Invincibles" DVD.

The only way Everton are drawing 38 games 0-0 is if Mourhino goes there.
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #70 on: November 8, 2016, 01:20:17 am »
Started with a series of 1-0s. I remember thinking how funny it would be to win every game 1-0: 38 wins, 108 points, 38 for, 0 against, GD of +38...
Would be 114 points I think mate but fair point all the same. Have Arsenal had some leagues won where the majority of results if not all of them were around the 1-0 mark? They always sing it.
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #71 on: November 8, 2016, 09:39:21 am »
I don't know if it's my memory playing tricks on me but I thought we were a bit slow out of the blocks back in 13/14 compared to how we are doing now.  Not sure if the information here bears that out but we really do seem to be on top of things at the moment.

After 11 we had 23 points and +11 goal difference. We hadn't started consistently battering teams, though we did have a 4-1 vs WBA in game 9, and then a 4-0 vs Fulham in game 11.

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #72 on: November 8, 2016, 02:41:57 pm »
BTW, guys, this isn't a week-to-week comparison, but a direct match comparison. The 13/14 table doesn't reflect our actual fixture list that season.
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #73 on: November 8, 2016, 04:52:22 pm »
BTW, guys, this isn't a week-to-week comparison, but a direct match comparison. The 13/14 table doesn't reflect our actual fixture list that season.

My season-to-go reflects results on a time basis, so the 13/14 data is a good comparative point.

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #74 on: November 9, 2016, 08:15:25 am »
My season-to-go reflects results on a time basis, so the 13/14 data is a good comparative point.

GW1           Stoke City                   H   W  1-0   3
GW2           Aston Villa                   A   W  1-0   3
GW3           Man United           H   W  1-0   3


GW4           Swansea City           A   D   2-2   1


GW5           Southampton           H   L   0-1   0


GW6           Sunderland           A   W  3-1   3
GW7           Crystal Palace           H   W  3-1   3


GW8           Newcastle United      A   D   2-2   1


GW9           Westbrom                   H   W  4-1   3


GW10   Arsenal                   A   L   0-2   0


GW11   Fulham                   H   W  4-0   3


GW12   Everton                   A   D   3-3   1


GW13   Hull City                   A   L   1-3   0


GW14   Norwich City           H   W  5-1   3
GW15   Westham Utd           H   W  4-1   3
GW16   Spurs                   A   W  5-0   3
GW17   Cardiff City           H   W  3-1   3


GW18   Man City                   A   L   1-2   0
GW19   Chelsea                   A   L   1-2   0


GW20   Hull City                   H   W  2-0   3
GW21   Stoke City                   A   W  5-3   3


GW22   Aston Villa                   H   D   2-2   1


GW23   Everton                   H   W  4-0   3


GW24   West Brom           A   D   1-1   1


GW25   Arsenal                   H   W  5-1   3
GW26   Fulham                   A   W  3-2   3
GW27   Swansea City           H   W  4-3   3
GW28   Southampton           A   W  3-0   3
GW29   Man United           A   W  3-0   3
GW30   Cardiff City           A   W  6-3   3
GW31   Sunderland           H   W  2-1   3
GW32   Spurs                   H   W  4-0   3
GW33   West Ham United   A   W  2-1   3
GW34   Man City                   H   W  3-2   3
GW35   Norwich City           A   W  3-2   3


GW36   Chelsea                   H   L   0-2   0


GW37   Crystal Palace           A   D   3-3   1


GW38   Newcastle United   H   W  2-1   3

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #75 on: November 9, 2016, 08:17:15 am »
That's was our form each week for 2013 / 2014 season. We had 22 points at this point in that season. GW20 to FW 35 what a run!!!

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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #76 on: November 9, 2016, 08:46:41 am »
I don't know if it's my memory playing tricks on me but I thought we were a bit slow out of the blocks back in 13/14 compared to how we are doing now.  Not sure if the information here bears that out but we really do seem to be on top of things at the moment.

After 11 games that season, we were one place worse off (in second) and 3 points worse off (with 23).

That season, we did not reach top spot until Game 17, so 6 games later than this season.  It meant that we were top on Christmas Day.

It's the fact that we lost our next two games after going top that probably makes us all think that our start to that season was worse than it actually was, because it meant that we were in fourth place throughout the whole of January and February.

That season, we did not regain top spot until the very end of March, when there were just 6 games left for us.  And, of course, even then MC had enough games in hand to hypothetically overtake us.


That season, we got 36 points from the first 19 games.  In other words, if we want to be ahead of our points tally from that season, at the half way stage, we'll need a minimum of 11 points from the next 8 games.

That season, we got 44 goals from the first 19 games.  In other words, if we want to be ahead of our goals tally from that season, at the half way stage, we'll need a minimum of 15 goals from the next 8 games.

That season, we conceded 23 goals from the first 19 games.  In other words, if we want to be doing better than our goals against column from that season, at the half way stage, we'll need a to let in no more than a maximum of 8 goals from the next 8 games.



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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #77 on: November 9, 2016, 11:08:27 am »
I knew we were good, for I'd forgotten just how bloody brilliant we were in the second half of the 13/14 season.

11 wins in a row scoring 38 goals, and after the blip at Christmas not losing again until that Chelsea game.
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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2016, 08:17:21 am »
I knew we were good, for I'd forgotten just how bloody brilliant we were in the second half of the 13/14 season.

11 wins in a row scoring 38 goals, and after the blip at Christmas not losing again until that Chelsea game.

Yes, until THAT Chelsea game. Some see Mourinho's tactics as gamesmanship. I see cheating. It is a real shame we had such a weak ref. The time wasting should have seen bookings after 10 minutes. Mourinho should have been sent to the stands on maybe three occasions, including holding up the ball preventing a quick throw in. I am so happy to see his distress and palpable decline in the last year.

I enjoyed this: Klopp - the most charismatic man in Britain in the Spectator (by an old Koppite, it seems).

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/jurgen-klopp-the-most-charismatic-man-in-britain/?


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Re: Results Comparison 2016/17
« Reply #79 on: November 20, 2016, 05:03:05 pm »
Updated Top 8 table:

Seems Chelsea are the real threat IMO