Author Topic: Loan Watch 2019/20 (Read 232829 times)

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #280 on:** September 21, 2016, 07:52:34 pm »

Quote from: istvan kozma on September 21, 2016, 07:00:02 pm

Thrown in at the deep end, he's starting today against Bayern Munich.

Will try to catch some of the second half.

Djozer · « **Reply #281 on:** September 21, 2016, 08:09:40 pm »

Quote from: so pumblechookian on September 21, 2016, 07:48:24 pm

Just caught the last five minutes of first half - seemed to be playing very deep. Anyone see rest of the half?

Watched about 30 mins of it, brutal game to make your first Bundesliga start in. He's looked ok when he got the ball, which was rare cos, well, it's Bayern. Conned a foul and almost a booking from Vidal. I suppose it's hard to tell much other than, as you say, he's sitting very deep, just in front of their centre halves most of the time. I noticed him pointing and shouting a couple of times, which suggests he's a confident lad I guess.

TobyLFC · « **Reply #282 on:** September 21, 2016, 08:26:58 pm »

Just gave away a goal

Tough luck for the kid

Butter Keks · « **Reply #283 on:** September 21, 2016, 08:27:52 pm »

Lads just had an absolute nightmare. Arsing around with the ball in his own box, dispossessed by Thiago who rolls it in to the net for 2-0. Looks off the pace, slow and to be honest a little bit heavy. Harsh game to make your debut in though.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #284 on:** September 21, 2016, 09:16:02 pm »

He did fine.

Sadly brain farts for the goalie and him led to a goal.

Otherwise, pretty solid debut. Did some decent work as he and his team got into the game more, couple nice passes and tackles.

But Hertha where just outclassed by the best team in Germany and one of the best in Europe.

Ratboy3G · « **Reply #285 on:** September 21, 2016, 11:18:29 pm »

Quote from: -HH- on September 21, 2016, 07:13:40 pm

Any streams for this? I hear German games are always on fucking tv.

Don't worry, I got it

GreatEx · « **Reply #286 on:** September 22, 2016, 03:48:36 am »

Quote from: -HH- on September 21, 2016, 07:13:40 pm

Any streams for this? I hear German games are always on fucking tv.

Was it a cup game?

Teigen · « **Reply #287 on:** September 22, 2016, 11:05:44 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRjDhoTwM-w

Highlights from yesterday. Did OK for a debut against Bayern Munich, (apart from the second goal of course)

He seems to play very deep in this match, I thought he was an attacking player?

SwordInYourGut · « **Reply #288 on:** September 23, 2016, 12:16:17 am »

Quote from: Teigen on September 22, 2016, 11:05:44 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRjDhoTwM-w

Highlights from yesterday. Did OK for a debut against Bayern Munich, (apart from the second goal of course)

He seems to play very deep in this match, I thought he was an attacking player?

Where did you get that? Always been mooted as a 6 or maybe 8 at a stretch.

Teigen · « **Reply #289 on:** September 23, 2016, 08:07:24 am »

Quote from: SwordInYourGut on September 23, 2016, 12:16:17 am

Where did you get that? Always been mooted as a 6 or maybe 8 at a stretch.

You're absolutely right, my bad

BOBSCOUSE · « **Reply #290 on:** September 23, 2016, 05:09:34 pm »

Quote from: Teigen on September 22, 2016, 11:05:44 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRjDhoTwM-w

Highlights from yesterday.

Didn't watch the highlights, absolute dogshit. Sell him.

darragh85 · « **Reply #291 on:** September 24, 2016, 05:26:30 pm »

apart from the mistake for the goal he seemed to be play well. looks comfortable on the ball. didnt realise he played so deep though. not an easy game for him to start in.

ZeusMetallica · « **Reply #292 on:** October 30, 2016, 02:13:49 pm »

He starts for Hertha against Hoffenheim in 15 minutes. 14:30 kick off.

Live on BT Sport 2.

IanZG · « **Reply #293 on:** October 30, 2016, 06:50:38 pm »

Apparently he played 90 minutes and got a yellow card in a 1-0 defeat. Not sure how well he played...

ZeusMetallica · « **Reply #294 on:** October 31, 2016, 03:09:24 pm »

Allan vs Hoffenheim (away) compilation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U94O-QYhiTY

Credit: MrBoywunder.

Crimson_Tank · « **Reply #295 on:** October 31, 2016, 03:19:55 pm »

He looks good in that vid of his touches and influence.

MNAA · « **Reply #296 on:** October 31, 2016, 04:35:35 pm »

Can see why he is highly rated by Klopp. Tremendous potential

vallapureddy · « **Reply #297 on:** October 31, 2016, 05:01:04 pm »

can pass with both feet that's nice..

RedSince86 · « **Reply #298 on:** October 31, 2016, 05:15:55 pm »

Looks really composed in that video,he's getting lots of minutes under his belt in the Bundesliga so that bodes well for a work permit in the summer finally.

ZeusMetallica · « **Reply #299 on:** October 31, 2016, 05:37:47 pm »

Quote from: RedSince86 on October 31, 2016, 05:15:55 pm

Looks really composed in that video,he's getting lots of minutes under his belt in the Bundesliga so that bodes well for a work permit in the summer finally.

I'd actually let him stay in Germany for another season. He's evolving a lot by the looks of it, if by the end of the season he's assured of a starting spot. I see no reason to disrupt that. He just turned 19 in March anyway, there's plenty of time until we need to see him* in a Liverpool shirt.

fredfrop · « **Reply #300 on:** October 31, 2016, 07:00:50 pm »

Quote from: ZeusMetallica on October 31, 2016, 03:09:24 pm

Allan vs Hoffenheim (away) compilation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U94O-QYhiTY

Credit: MrBoywunder.

Thanks, that's very similar to the way he played for Brazil against England: skilful, technical and occasionally violent.

King Klopp. · « **Reply #301 on:** October 31, 2016, 07:06:44 pm »

I've watched him a couple times now this season and the thing I've noticed about him most is that he works his fucking bollocks off. Could absolutely see him making it here and I think he'll definitely be a part of Klopp's squad as soon as we can get the work permit for him. Could save us another £10-15m by having him come back in to the squad rather than having to buy another midfielder.

Could have some serious competition for places in that midfield in years to come. This lad is only 19, Grujic is only 20, Ejaria is only 18. We've got some promising kids in the midfield positions. Hopefully Jurgen - and I expect he will - can get the best out of at least one of these and develop a world class player.

Doc Red · « **Reply #302 on:** October 31, 2016, 08:26:20 pm »

Quote from: One of those on October 31, 2016, 07:00:50 pm

Thanks, that's very similar to the way he played for Brazil against England: skilful, technical and occasionally violent.

Haha, what!
Definitely going to watch his highlights from the last game.

ZeusMetallica · « **Reply #303 on:** October 31, 2016, 09:53:54 pm »

Quote from: One of those on October 31, 2016, 07:00:50 pm

Thanks, that's very similar to the way he played for Brazil against England: skilful, technical and occasionally violent.

Were you the one who went to the game?

And yeah, I watched bits of him on youtube, still playing for his youth side in that competition in Asia and he looked like he loved a tackle. There's shades of Mascherano in him, little guy but tough as nails.

RedSince86 · « **Reply #304 on:** October 31, 2016, 10:41:04 pm »

Quote from: ZeusMetallica on October 31, 2016, 05:37:47 pm

I'd actually let him stay in Germany for another season. He's evolving a lot by the looks of it, if by the end of the season he's assured of a starting spot. I see no reason to disrupt that. He just turned 19 in March anyway, there's plenty of time until we need to see him* in a Liverpool shirt.

Good shout having him stay there another season.

Seems to have solidified a spot there,great league for a young player to develop as well.

Too early for flapjacks? · « **Reply #305 on:** February 19, 2017, 07:32:21 pm »

Not getting much game time is he? Wonder where he'll be next season as it's doubtful he'll get a work permit.

Ratboy3G · « **Reply #306 on:** April 14, 2017, 04:22:53 pm »

Anyone been following Allan's loan? Know if he's got a anymore game time?
I'm not an expert on how work permits work but would those who do think the posibility of a loan to a championship side next season be realistic?

Dim Glas · « **Reply #307 on:** April 14, 2017, 04:25:51 pm »

Quote from: Ratboy3G on April 14, 2017, 04:22:53 pm

Anyone been following Allan's loan? Know if he's got a anymore game time?
I'm not an expert on how work permits work but would those who do think the posibility of a loan to a championship side next season be realistic?

he's not played at all recently. He was away with one of the Brazil teams for a bit. And the last few bundesliga games he's been an unused sub. So he's not played in the league since December.

I honestly can't see him ever being able to get a work permit to allow him to play for Liverpool. I dont' see how he could play in the Championship, it'd still be under the same UK laws regards permits.

Ratboy3G · « **Reply #308 on:** April 14, 2017, 04:39:04 pm »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on April 14, 2017, 04:25:51 pm

he's not played at all recently. He was away with one of the Brazil teams for a bit. And the last few bundesliga games he's been an unused sub. So he's not played in the league since December.

I honestly can't see him ever being able to get a work permit to allow him to play for Liverpool. I dont' see how he could play in the Championship, it'd still be under the same UK laws regards permits.

Ah right, I thought he may be able to get a permit to play in a lower division on loan

RedSince86 · « **Reply #309 on:** April 14, 2017, 07:50:05 pm »

Feel sorry for the guy.

Ended up in Finland and now it's not worked out well in Germany either.

Not sure why the club just didn't loan him out to a Portuguese team this season,no language barrier and slower technical game suited to him no doubt coming from Brazil,loads of Brazilians have started out in Europe in that league.

PeterTheRed ... · « **Reply #310 on:** April 14, 2017, 07:55:49 pm »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on April 14, 2017, 04:25:51 pm

he's not played at all recently. He was away with one of the Brazil teams for a bit. And the last few bundesliga games he's been an unused sub. So he's not played in the league since December.

I honestly can't see him ever being able to get a work permit to allow him to play for Liverpool. I dont' see how he could play in the Championship, it'd still be under the same UK laws regards permits.

He came on as a sub against Augsburg last weekend. It is true that he hasn't played much at Hertha this season, but he has still progressed by becoming a Brazilian U-20 international.

MBL? · « **Reply #311 on:** May 2, 2017, 08:25:06 pm »

Got a start at the weekend and looked decent in the highlights video. They lost again though..

http://www.empireofthekop.com/2017/05/01/video-allan-rodrigues-with-steady-performance-in-rare-start-for-hertha-berlin/

Ratboy3G · « **Reply #312 on:** May 7, 2017, 12:10:57 pm »

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrBoywunder/status/858811695757746176
His vision, calmness on the ball, passing range and tenacity are there to see, glad he's getting another loan in the Bundesliga next season and hope he gets a work permit as he'd be great for us. Obviously he won't get that much time on the ball in the premier league but his decision making looks pretty spot on

diegoLFC7 · « **Reply #313 on:** May 8, 2017, 06:18:32 am »

This lad has loads of potential, he really needs to be playing on a weekly basis. If it means playing a season in brazil or another smaller european league than so be it, but he needs to be on the pitch.

Dougle · « **Reply #314 on:** May 8, 2017, 10:32:20 pm »

Seems to have grown/bulked out a bit too. Not as small as he seemed (to me) in earlier clips.

KingKolo · « **Reply #315 on:** May 8, 2017, 10:46:34 pm »

Quote from: diegoLFC7 on May 8, 2017, 06:18:32 am

This lad has loads of potential, he really needs to be playing on a weekly basis. If it means playing a season in brazil or another smaller european league than so be it, but he needs to be on the pitch.

I heard his loan to Hertha next season is confirmed
reckon he'll be a regular starter there next season if keeps playing like that.
interesting, seems he's playing holding mid there.

4pool · « **Reply #316 on:** May 15, 2017, 02:34:52 pm »

Liverpool will extend Allan Rodrigues de Souza’s loan spell at Hertha Berlin for another season - as long as the Bundesliga outfit qualify for the group stage of the Europa League.

The Reds won’t be able to secure a work permit for the Brazil Under-20s international this summer so they are happy for him to return to Hertha for the 2017/18 campaign.

However, Liverpool want to ensure that Allan, who has only played 15 matches in all competitions this season, will be playing European football. Fifth placed Hertha, who face Bayer Leverkusen this Saturday, will be guaranteed a place in the Europa League if they match or better Freiburg’s result against champions Bayern Munich on the final weekend.

“We’ve lodged our wish to loan Allan for another year with Liverpool,” Hertha sporting executive Michael Preetz told Kicker.

“Principally, the English are up for it, but they would like us to be a guaranteed starter in the group stages of Europa League.”

Playing in European competition next term would bolster Allan’s case for a work permit to play in England.

Rules were tightened for non-European Union players back in 2015. Points are awarded for various criteria including the transfer fee, wages, international caps, the level of the club they are coming from and whether a player has featured in 30% or more of the available domestic league minutes.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/liverpool-keep-allan-rodrigues-de-13036431

Dim Glas · « **Reply #317 on:** May 15, 2017, 02:43:07 pm »

Quote from: :-n on May 8, 2017, 10:46:34 pm

I heard his loan to Hertha next season is confirmed
reckon he'll be a regular starter there next season if keeps playing like that.
interesting, seems he's playing holding mid there.

that's his position, so it's a good thing he's getting experience playing there!

Good news that he's saying there. A great league and a good team for him to carry on developing in.

rocco · « **Reply #318 on:** May 15, 2017, 02:50:38 pm »

Shouldn't we ask hertha for Guarantees he plays at least 30% of domestic games so he fills the criteria we need to get him a permit ? Plus the other criteria neeed ?

Dim Glas · « **Reply #319 on:** May 15, 2017, 02:56:40 pm »

Quote from: rocco on May 15, 2017, 02:50:38 pm

Shouldn't we ask hertha for Guarantees he plays at least 30% of domestic games so he fills the criteria we need to get him a permit ? Plus the other criteria neeed ?

maybe they have.

But I guess they are very happy with how its working with him there. He has played a lot in these last few weeks. He did miss a spell cos he was away with the Brazil team, but he's certainly been involved. And with them in the Europa - more games to play in, and also he's a year more experienced. Hertha wouldn't keep him if they didn't like what they saw.

Also Michael Preetz being the sporting director there means that it's likely Jürgen Klopp has trust in his development, being as they are old friends.