Topic: LFC Revision 2016/17

[Dave D]

Are the subservient lapdogs really proposing applauding on 77 minutes without viewing the entire breakdown?

[Cantona]

Fantastic stuff. Well done.

[redprodigal]

Permit me to play devil's advocate but the club not earning any more from the matchday income is likely to result in reduced spending on the playing staff.  Of course, footballers are greedy bastards so we can't expect the team to be a bunch of superstards if we can't, won't or don't pay superstar prices!

Ergo, don't complain about the team being shit!

They will earn more from the match day income I think. Doesn't this mean that they won't earn extra income from the seats that are already there but the extra income will come from the extra seats?

Though individual ticket prices may move marginally from this season, we are freezing our 2016-17 GA ticket revenue at the 2015-16 level exclusive of newly-added seats in the new Main Stand.

[Retro Red]

Good idea


John McMahon
‏@JohnMichaelMc

Maybe a round of applause on 77 minutes at the next home game? Respect goes both ways.

Who for?

The people who thought they'd be as well ignoring what they'd been told for 13 months, thinking SOS was a busted flush?

Make no mistake, that is what the PL, Ian Ayre and FSG thought. Never in a month of Sundays did they think our supporters would demonstrate in the numbers and with the anger they did on Saturday. In fact, hardly any of us involved in trying to build the ticket price campaign over the past three years thought we could deliver the blow that the walk out landed on the football cartel on Saturday.

So, while FSG deserve credit for not trying to engage in what would have been a damaging battle for all parties, please believe those of us that have stared into the whites of the PL's, LFC's & FSG's eyes over the years when we say they have only backed down out of fear of humiliating defeat not out of benevolence. LFC was one of the clubs that blocked the away ticket price cap. LFC has refused to enter into reciprocal away ticketing arrangements. LFC thought they were over the hill and far away, only to get dragged right back into the scouse maelstrom they thought they'd diluted out of existence this past five years.

Great to see the club lackeys, who'd virtually disappeared from view on here after Saturday, throwing bouquets in FSG's direction though, when it was FSG who caused all this through disregarding everything SOS, SK1906 and the LFC SC has been telling them for over a year.

And kudos to Harinder. Probably the best piece of work seen on here in recent times.

[goalrushatgoodison]

Last week we had ticket prices that were too expensive.
This week we have them the same price but everyone feels like they've won.


Said before don't want to moan and have a go, but if it was too expensive 2 weeks ago it's still too expensive now, regardless of a rather crazy week.

Top marks to those who walked out. I have always said that if you have a problem and you are not able to sort it - indentify who can sort it and find a way to make it their problem. The 77 minute club done that in spades.

As for FSG this was a no brainer really. Once the protest grew traction they were never going to fight over 2 million. They have capitulated in style though, I will give them that. In the end they have turned a holy mess into a PR triumph.

[Shambles.....with a capital S!]

Are the subservient lapdogs really proposing applauding on 77 minutes without viewing the entire breakdown?

But we could at least back FSG and help reinforce a positive relationship with the fans?

[YayaP]

It's a victory. Hopefully the first of many. Well in to all involved in organizing, and all who walked out.

FSG did the right thing. Sign of more to come? We'll have to wait and see. 

[gnaume]

Last week we had ticket prices that were too expensive.
This week we have them the same price but everyone feels like they've won.


Said before don't want to moan and have a go, but if it was too expensive 2 weeks ago it's still too expensive now, regardless of a rather crazy week.

Yes it is. Their reaction also shouldn't make us think that all's rosy and I'm sure it won't. They still are investors, after all.

They still deserve respect for listening, taking the issue seriosuly, re-thinking, admitting mistakes and actually going back on the price-rise.

[redgriffin73]

Good idea


John McMahon
‏@JohnMichaelMc

Maybe a round of applause on 77 minutes at the next home game? Respect goes both ways.

Ha, I just had the same thought as him, I think it's a nice idea.

[FlashingBlade]

Any aul arses moving from the kop then pleeeeeeeeease? 
Got really nice new seats and facilities and your mates can move with you. Take your pick of the seats.

Should have asked Saturday cos there was loads leaving on 77 mins...or don't they count?

[Danny Boys Dad]

Are the subservient lapdogs really proposing applauding on 77 minutes without viewing the entire breakdown?

Looks like it. Anyone thinking of applauding the owners should give their head a wobble.

This might not be as shit as last week's shit but it's still shit and yet you'd think that they'd offered to let everyone in free and throw in a pie as well.

[Solomon Grundy]

Permit me to play devil's advocate but the club not earning any more from the matchday income is likely to result in reduced spending on the playing staff.  Of course, footballers are greedy bastards so we can't expect the team to be a bunch of superstards if we can't, won't or don't pay superstar prices!

Ergo, don't complain about the team being shit!

We can't just keep giving into prices set by the club because we fear missing out on superstar signings though. Besides, Leicester have shown you don't need to sign superstars, you just need to sign the right players to suit your system.

[hoppyLFC]

Does this mean the A&C blocks in UAR have been scrapped?

Looks like it, on the new prices kids can get tickets in any stand 

[Danny Boys Dad]

Looks like it, on the new prices kids can get tickets in any stand 

Would be very surprised if that makes it to the start of the season

[andy84]

I'd be very surprised if the difference was enough to cover James Milners yearly salary never mind a new player.

15 weeks of ol' Milly!

[davidsteventon]

Should have asked Saturday cos there was loads leaving on 77 mins...or don't they count?

They all left on 74 (j/k).

My post goes back to some points I made in the atmosphere thread that people choose the kop because of the price when really some (definitely not all) don't really have a massive desire to be in there. Cheaper alternatives give them the options now which is positive. (Well - bit more, but maybe swayed by better facilities, pick seats, etc).

[Graham Smith]

Who for?

The people who thought they'd be as well ignoring what they'd been told for 13 months, thinking SOS was a busted flush?

Make no mistake, that is what the PL, Ian Ayre and FSG thought. Never in a month of Sundays did they think our supporters would demonstrate in the numbers and with the anger they did on Saturday. In fact, hardly any of us involved in trying to build the ticket price campaign over the past three years thought we could deliver the blow that the walk out landed on the football cartel on Saturday.

So, while FSG deserve credit for not trying to engage in what would have been a damaging battle for all parties, please believe those of us that have stared into the whites of the PL's, LFC's & FSG's eyes over the years when we say they have only backed down out of fear of humiliating defeat not out of benevolence. LFC was one of the clubs that blocked the away ticket price cap. LFC has refused to enter into reciprocal away ticketing arrangements. LFC thought they were over the hill and far away, only to get dragged right back into the scouse maelstrom they thought they'd diluted out of existence this past five years.

Great to see the club lackeys, who'd virtually disappeared from view on here after Saturday, throwing bouquets in FSG's direction though, when it was FSG who caused all this through disregarding everything SOS, SK1906 and the LFC SC has been telling them for over a year.

And kudos to Harinder. Probably the best piece of work seen on here in recent times.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^This.

We've had reversal of a ridiculous price hike nothing more.

Football at Anfield remains too expensive.

[Gegenpresser]

Permit me to play devil's advocate but the club not earning any more from the matchday income is likely to result in reduced spending on the playing staff.  Of course, footballers are greedy bastards so we can't expect the team to be a bunch of superstards if we can't, won't or don't pay superstar prices!

Ergo, don't complain about the team being shit!

It's £2m. Simply removing Jose Enrique from the wage bill will bring in nearly double that.

[FlashingBlade]

I think the eagerness to 'congratulate ' FSG is premature...they are clever and had to come out with an act of contrition. they may think they will slow the momentum and growth, this must not be allowed, certainly by applauding Carpet Baggers for being found out!

[DutchRed]

Who for?

The people who thought they'd be as well ignoring what they'd been told for 13 months, thinking SOS was a busted flush?

Make no mistake, that is what the PL, Ian Ayre and FSG thought. Never in a month of Sundays did they think our supporters would demonstrate in the numbers and with the anger they did on Saturday. In fact, hardly any of us involved in trying to build the ticket price campaign over the past three years thought we could deliver the blow that the walk out landed on the football cartel on Saturday.

So, while FSG deserve credit for not trying to engage in what would have been a damaging battle for all parties, please believe those of us that have stared into the whites of the PL's, LFC's & FSG's eyes over the years when we say they have only backed down out of fear of humiliating defeat not out of benevolence. LFC was one of the clubs that blocked the away ticket price cap. LFC has refused to enter into reciprocal away ticketing arrangements. LFC thought they were over the hill and far away, only to get dragged right back into the scouse maelstrom they thought they'd diluted out of existence this past five years.

Great to see the club lackeys, who'd virtually disappeared from view on here after Saturday, throwing bouquets in FSG's direction though, when it was FSG who caused all this through disregarding everything SOS, SK1906 and the LFC SC has been telling them for over a year.

And kudos to Harinder. Probably the best piece of work seen on here in recent times.

Not all is rosy, obviously not. However, they did scrap the part of the price increases that would have made them money and done well for the youngsters. To pay 59 pounds for a league match against Watford is still too much, the away fans still get precious little reward for their loyal support, be it the travelling Kop or those in Anfield's away end. The job is not done, but eventually they did listen and managed to give it a positive PR spin for themselves too.

[Crosby Nick]

Well done lads.



Does this mean I have to go back to  eating from Subway?

Start with a 6 inch and see how you go.

[4pool]

Graham, Jay, SOS, Spion Kop 1906...

A doff of the cap your way.

With a freeze of two years on ticket pricing, you now have 2 more years of negotiating about ticket pricing and a "fair" policy for locals.

Before the week is out, i'll be renewing my SOS membership for 3 years...you'll need it..

[Danny Boys Dad]

We've had reversal of a ridiculous price hike nothing more.

They haven't even reversed all the price hikes, just reduced some of them but they are still going up. Scrapping the categories means a lot of tickets will cost a lot more next season

[redprodigal]

They haven't even reversed all the price hikes, just reduced some of them but they are still going up. Scrapping the categories means a lot of tickets will cost a lot more next season

Looks like this is true. Pulling the wool over our eyes?
Surely they don't think we're that stupid. Be interesting to see what SOS have to say when this has been looked at properly.

[davidsteventon]

They haven't even reversed all the price hikes, just reduced some of them but they are still going up. Scrapping the categories means a lot of tickets will cost a lot more next season

Someone will need to do the full figures.
Someone did the 304/5/6 and it dropped by around £26 I think it was.

It will be interesting to see a breakdown for all areas. The £42 for kop 304/5/6 single price I'm not sure how that's worked out from the previous 3 categories and if the same formulae is used for all seats or some are closer to A prices and some C etc.

[Circa1892]

Great effort from those who organised the walk out, and those willing to take part. Proof that taking direct action works.

It's a step in the right direction, a waystation. Absolutely NO chance that prices will be cut until other teams follow suit - would be interesting to see if other teams follow suit from us. Although unsure who would really? The fact we're still the most expensive tickets outside of London is nothing for the club to be proud of though.

[BCCC]

Still too expensive for me.

[TepidT2O]

It's £2m. Simply removing Jose Enrique from the wage bill will bring in nearly double that.

An important point that....

[arhey]

Think the cat freeze depends on where your seat is eg in KOP 202 its frozen at C in Centenary  KN it's frozen at between A & B

KOP 202 2015/16 Cat C - £37
KOP 202 2016/17 - £37

KN -2015/16 Cat B - £51 Cat A £56
KN -2016/17 - £53

Edit: Corrected

It is about where you sit whether you individually are a winner or loser when it comes to tha categorisation change.

I'm generally in Main Stand, ME, front row. This season all games will cost me £ 1,031. That's 6 cat a games at £59= £354, 10 cat b at £53 = £530, 3 cat c at £49 = £147.

Next season I think my comparable seat will be L4, so all games at £59 = £1,121, an increase of £90 or just under a fiver more per game.

So I'm worse off. Strangely, enough I'd be better off under the first pricing structure if it meant I was able to get a season ticket (after I stupidly gave up mine in 90 when I got married for the first time) due to the extra available. But of course much worse off if I couldn't and had to pay around £70-£75 for each ticket as a member.

So I can live with the increase for me as it looks like a lot of other reds will be either better off or the same as is. Others may feel different.

I walked out on Saturday because the first proposed pricing structure felt obscene. I felt like I was being treated like a sucker not a fan. To my mind, the walkout was justified because as I say the increase felt obscene and a slap in the face. But high ticket prices are a bigger issue than just us, it's the case for pretty much every premier league club. I never thought the club was going to lower prices and I still don't but am happy to still support the fight moving forward, but hopefully now with other clubs involved and a more coordinated effort.

I will say that I've never thought of FSG as being in the same category as the last lot. I don't think they're quite as altruistic as their slick PR makes out, although I will give them credit for at least being smart enough to understand the underlying themes and soul of the club. Their response to this has been quick, it's been conciliatory, and it's been reasonably fair at first look, even if there are some losers like me. That may change after more analysis has been done but it's what I feel right now.

And I also feel some pride that so many of us stood together and actually did something really difficult which was derided by many. Maybe we can translate some of that to getting a better atmosphere going at the game.

[rebel23]

I knew they wouldn't get away with £77 tickets.  credit to everyone involved.

[jambutty]

Good idea


John McMahon
‏@JohnMichaelMc

Maybe a round of applause on 77 minutes at the next home game? Respect goes both ways.

An improved atmosphere would be boss.

[Danny Boys Dad]

Looks like this is true. Pulling the wool over our eyes?
Surely they don't think we're that stupid. Be interesting to see what SOS have to say when this has been looked at properly.

Somebody has suggested applauding the owners at the next match so yes, there probably are people who are that stupid.

[LiverBirdKop]

Tickets remain a lot higher than they should be. They just agreed to not stick the knife too deep is all.

These guys are not dumb....they simply want to maintain the 'brand' until they can find a 'suitable' billionaire (good luck with that). This ticket pricing fiasco was definitely not helping the franchise.

I hope other teams pick up the momentum and ask for deeper price cuts.

[davidsteventon]

Still too expensive for me.

Was about to text my mate who jibbed it recently after many years saying my Kop tickets (if I manage to get them in the bulk sales) will reduce by £26 and will he consider going again. I think he'd just laugh at me so haven't bothered.

Victory for the very young generation? Maybe - let's see the figures.

[Vork+The Knights of Good]

Well done to everyone involved. Still a ways to go, but the club holding their hands up and admitting they got something wrong should be welcomed. Hopefully this leads to a better and more sustained line of communication between the club and supporters.

[Alf Garnett!]

I'm sure everything will be analysed in depth before the groups respond to the new ticket prices.

The dearest a STH will pay is £869.00

There is a possibility of a regular paying £1121 for the same 19 games,is this something that can be addressed in any replies or am i wide of the mark here?

Surely a % reduction after 5-10-15 games lowering his matchday ticket for that supporter not to eclipse the £869 ceiling?

Loyal supporters reduction.

[Bunter]

Who for?

The people who thought they'd be as well ignoring what they'd been told for 13 months, thinking SOS was a busted flush?

Make no mistake, that is what the PL, Ian Ayre and FSG thought. Never in a month of Sundays did they think our supporters would demonstrate in the numbers and with the anger they did on Saturday. In fact, hardly any of us involved in trying to build the ticket price campaign over the past three years thought we could deliver the blow that the walk out landed on the football cartel on Saturday.

So, while FSG deserve credit for not trying to engage in what would have been a damaging battle for all parties, please believe those of us that have stared into the whites of the PL's, LFC's & FSG's eyes over the years when we say they have only backed down out of fear of humiliating defeat not out of benevolence. LFC was one of the clubs that blocked the away ticket price cap. LFC has refused to enter into reciprocal away ticketing arrangements. LFC thought they were over the hill and far away, only to get dragged right back into the scouse maelstrom they thought they'd diluted out of existence this past five years.

Great to see the club lackeys, who'd virtually disappeared from view on here after Saturday, throwing bouquets in FSG's direction though, when it was FSG who caused all this through disregarding everything SOS, SK1906 and the LFC SC has been telling them for over a year.

And kudos to Harinder. Probably the best piece of work seen on here in recent times.

Spot on.

[jambutty]

Are the subservient lapdogs really proposing applauding on 77 minutes without viewing the entire breakdown?

Then again, there's always a few miserable bastards.

[Pistolero]

the naysayers and no-way nellies are rather conspicuous by their absence no?...

[jambutty]

I think the eagerness to 'congratulate ' FSG is premature...they are clever and had to come out with an act of contrition. they may think they will slow the momentum and growth, this must not be allowed, certainly by applauding Carpet Baggers for being found out!

Your 4th negative comment on this thread.

Tell you what.  You stay out and so will I.  Deal?