Author Topic: West Ham v Liverpool, FA Cup Fourth round (replay), Tuesday, 9th February, 19:45  (Read 41197 times)

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So, fast approaching is the game we were hoping to avoid.
It wasn't to be though, as a very young team we fielded last Saturday fought hard but was denied a victory.
Final result was 0-0 and this means that the tie will be settled on West Hams ground in little over two days.


Cameron Brannagan - playing like he means it


Our youth played well and more then held their ground in the last match.
It was good to see them strut about with intent and courage. Standout performers were probably Brannagan and Smith, though Teixeira and Stewart weren't far behind. We were clearly better then West Ham, with superior control of the game, more shots and chances, but verve and intent shown by kids wasn't matched by more regular and senior players - a theme that culminated in Aspasesque free kick by Jose Enrique in the closing moments of the game. No hard feelings though - the positives I took from this match far outweigh obvious problems we have with some players and their confidence and/or quality.



When did it all go wrong Jose?


Now we're about to head into the replay - once again severely crippled by injuries though this time with a glimmer of hope by the possible return of at least Sturridge - who is expected to feature in at least a part of this game after he was on the bench against Sunderland. Klopps hand is probably forced by the amount of games and injuries we're carrying - I expect once again to see a mixed lineup of youth and fringe players and to be honest I'm looking forward to it.

Kids are alright and though playing away, against a very good team is a very different proposal to the last game - I'm hopeful they'll once again prove that all it really takes is a bit of bad intent and courage - something sorely lacking from most of our 'first team'. these days. Also in light of what happened yesterday, the normally incredible Traveling Kop is probably going to be on yet another level.



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There is so much we can still do this season - though our League campaign is looking bleak and disheartening.
But we have to start somewhere, we have to grind out hard fought victories and do it in testing times.
This game could be a great pivot point for us - let's use it.






I hope that those who step on to the pitch on Tuesday have at least 77 reasons not to accept anything less then a victory.
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Really need to play a strong team for this.  The league is gone, we should be concentrating on the cups - but the question is, what is our strongest team?

I want to see Ward get a game here.  A good performance and I think he should be keeping his place.  Mignolet cost us points again vs Sunderland and Ward deserves a chance to show what he can do and not just for this one game.

At left back, Moreno has been poor in recent weeks, despite being a fan of his, I think Brad Smith should be starting this one.  On the other side, Flanagan has to start.  Clyne has played more football than most but Flanagan deserves a start after performing so well in his comeback game.

At centre back, Sakho (again, despite being a big fan of his) has been out of form for weeks now and with Lovren likely to miss this game after his hamstring injury, we are looking at Caulker, Toure and Ilori for the centre back spots.  I'd go with Caulker and Toure.

Had Joe Allen not gone off against Sunderland, we'd probably see him starting this one too but the hamstring problem he picked up most likely rules him out too.  With Hendo seemingly still playing through injury, we are looking at Can, Lucas and Brannagan (a stand out performer in his handful of games this season) for the centre midfield spots.

I can see Sturridge starting this one on the bench again, with him getting some minutes towards the end of the game.  Which means Benteke will probably get another opportunity with our main man at the moment (Firmino) rested. With Benteke starting, I'd go with Ojo and Ibe down the wings and Teixeira as the number 10.

Benteke
Ojo Teixeira Ibe
Lucas Brannagan
Smith Caulker Toure Flanagan
Ward


Subs: Mignolet, Clyne, Ilori, Can, Milner, Lallana, Sturridge

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Really need to play our strongest team for this.

Benteke
Ojo Teixeira Ibe
Lucas Brannagan
Smith Caulker Toure Flanagan
Ward


Subs: Mignolet, Clyne, Ilori, Can, Milner, Lallana, Sturridge


How is that our strongest side?
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How is that our strongest side?

That's right.

Our strongest side is injured, we have no strongest side and we have too many injuries and games to drive some players into the ground.
Question is not if we'll see a mixed team - we definitely will - it's more what players are coming back from injuries and how many minutes can we get from them without throwing their recovery into question.

Mignolet will probably start, Benteke might as well - these are the games he gets minutes in these days.
I would keep Ibe for second half - he obviously plays better when he's not starting - as demonstrated yesterday.

But really it'll depend on who is available and fit enough - and of this we can only speculate.

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Ward
Flanagan Toure Caulker Smith
Brannagan Stewart
Ibe Teixeira Ojo
Origi

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Ward
Flanagan Toure Caulker Smith
Brannagan Stewart
Ibe Teixeira Ojo
Origi

Good shout altho i think Migs,Benteke will start & Sturridge will get 30 mins too.
« Last Edit: February 7, 2016, 03:22:22 pm by DAVO1 »

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Good shout altho i think Migs,Benteke will start & Sturridge will get 30 mins too.

Also worth noting that Lucas didn't play yesterday ( bar 5 mins) so my well get time in this
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I know the kids did well last time but West Ham were poor & away from home is a big factor.

As we are not making the CL I hope we play the strongest team available against West Ham & all the cup competitions now on. 

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We lose this one and well have the FA cup weekend to rest. Maybe what the squad and gaffer need.
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How is that our strongest side?

Other than Firmino, does anyone have an argument for being an automatic starter right now?

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Other than Firmino, does anyone have an argument for being an automatic starter right now?

No they don't,I don't think we actually have  a guaranteed  'strongest 11' at the moment, because sadly I don't think we enough decent players who can claim to be part of such a line up.

No idea who will start for this one, but I really hope players who don't deserve a start don't get one. Players like Mignolet for example have had enough chances to get their act together, but still continue to fuck up.

Hope Ward gets his chance to prove himself worthy of a start on Tuesday.





« Last Edit: February 7, 2016, 04:40:17 pm by mikeb58 »
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I know the kids did well last time but West Ham were poor & away from home is a big factor.

As we are not making the CL I hope we play the strongest team available against West Ham & all the cup competitions now on. 


I think he'll play a similar team to the one at Anfield. I don't think Klopp is ready to give up on the league as much as some would like him to on here.

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I think he'll play a similar team to the one at Anfield. I don't think Klopp is ready to give up on the league as much as some would like him to on here.

But does that mean he is giving up on the FA Cup?

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Ward
Flanagan Toure Caulker Smith
Brannagan Stewart
Ibe Teixeira Ojo
Origi

I like this team. Is Origi fit? If so, happy days.
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I think he'll play a similar team to the one at Anfield. I don't think Klopp is ready to give up on the league as much as some would like him to on here.


The lads that played the first game deserve another crack

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I think he'll play a similar team to the one at Anfield. I don't think Klopp is ready to give up on the league as much as some would like him to on here.

We dont play till Sunday though so some recovery time.

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It's amazing people watch Moreno, Sakho, Mignolet, and Lallana put in ineffectual/average/poor performances every week and yet still feel that Smith, Caulker, Ward, and Tex would be a 'weaker side'.
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Just want to see Firmino and Sturridge together on the pitch for once. Reckon it would be absolute crackers, especially with Phil behind them. Don`t understand why most want to throw this cup away but if we win it could be one of those Leeds `01 moments that inspire a good cup run.

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I just want to see Ward in goal and not another spineless performance if possible.
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Would mix a few from Saturday with a few from the first whu game. Also give Danny Ward a go.



                      Ward
Flanno Caulker Sakho Smith

          Henderson Lucas

Ibe                                     Tex
                Brannagan
                    Firmino

Bench: Mignolet, Toure, Moreno, Can, Milner, Coutinho, Sturridge

Strong bench.
« Last Edit: February 7, 2016, 05:08:02 pm by Upinsmoke »

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It's amazing people watch Moreno, Sakho, Mignolet, and Lallana put in ineffectual/average/poor performances every week and yet still feel that Smith, Caulker, Ward, and Tex would be a 'weaker side'.

Exactly. Do any of the players on the left (fit/healthy players with the most minutes played this season) really deserve another start over their potential replacements on the right?

Mignolet v Ward

Moreno v Smith

Sakho v Caulker

Lovren v Toure

Clyne v Flanagan

Lucas v Allen

Can v Brannagan

Henderson v Teixeira

Milner v Ojo

Lallana v Ibe

Firmino v Benteke

The only ones you can make a case for would be Clyne and Firmino.  Flanagan will likely start over Clyne and Firmino is likely to be rested, as will Henderson as he's playing with an injury.

*no other fit like-for-like replacement

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Start Sturridge, Benteke and Firmino up top and Flanagan and Smith at the back.

Don't give a shit about the rest.
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I'll be surprised if Mignolet plays, he looks shot.

Sakho I think will start, if only because there's no one else. So him and caulker at the back. The rest of the team might get rotated, Klopp always does that.

Hope to see Origi and Sturridge back playing.

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I'll be surprised if Mignolet plays, he looks shot.

Wrong vowel in shot I think.


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Is Lovren out injured? I'd have liked to see him alongside Caulker just like in the first match as Sakho looks shot, but if he isn't available then I suppose it'll have to be Caulker and Sakho out there. Having at least one CB who can win headers should help, as we're going to get bombarded. My only hope in us scoring rests with Firmino amd Sturridge, assuming the latter plays of course.

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put the strongest side....ie the kids
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I'll be surprised if Mignolet plays, he looks shot.

Sakho I think will start, if only because there's no one else. So him and caulker at the back. The rest of the team might get rotated, Klopp always does that.

Hope to see Origi and Sturridge back playing.

Typo? Torn between playing the 'kids' and the 'strongest' team in this one. Whilst we should obviously do our best to win every game our hopes of achieving anything in the league are long gone and the cups represent the best chance of salvaging something from this season. The team that played the initial game against West Ham gave a good account of themselves and could have won whilst the first choice team produces shit on a stick football week-in, week-out. So which team should we field to give ourselves the best chance of progressing? I think that we should stick with roughly the same side from the first leg to be honest.
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If we can't beat West Ham at the 4th attempt then this really will stand out as a complete and utter fuck-up of a season.
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If we can't beat West Ham at the 4th attempt then this really will stand out as a complete and utter fuck-up of a season.
We`re yet to score a goal against them let alone beat them.

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Oh god....

Feels like walking in front of a firing squad after the way we capitulated against Sunderland..


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Hope Ward starts.

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The cups are the only chance we have of making anything worth remembering from a season of shite in the league . I would quite gladly accept seeing some of those players we have seen thus far in the cup, henceforth play in the league games......and switch our focus 100% to winning something in the Cups .


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I like this team. Is Origi fit? If so, happy days.

Yes, he's fit. He's been training for a few days. As have Coutinho and Sturridge.

I expect all 3 to play a part and Sturridge to possibly start.
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Yes, he's fit. He's been training for a few days. As have Coutinho and Sturridge.

I expect all 3 to play a part and Sturridge to possibly start.

Hope so.
Maybe in a diamond with 2 strikers. Ward in goal, behind a strong defence (if we can come up with one).

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Thanks for the OP.

Sturridge, Ojo and Ward must play. We need to look at Ward and give Ojo some game time to see what he can do. Henderson probably won't play due to his injury. Let's see what Chalker can do also.
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Is Klopp available for this game?

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Is Klopp available for this game?

Late fitness test.
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