Topic: Full Time: Liverpool 0 - 0 Plymouth Argyle

[red mongoose]

Stuck £100 on a draw at Half time.

You could see from fucking Mars we were never scoring today. Far too slow and ponderous with the ball . Horrendous result.

Special mention for Origi - worst player on the pitch by a mile.

Another one of these 

What in the everlasting sweet and unholy exponential vastness of fuck is going on in here?

[JackWard33]

If we go there with the same team they'll struggle badly against their physicality in what will be a completely different game on a much worse pitch.

You're right we shouldn't play the same team - should take out Can and Origi

[John C]

Stuck £100 on a draw at Half time.

You could see from fucking Mars we were never scoring today. Far too slow and ponderous with the ball . Horrendous result.

Special mention for Origi - worst player on the pitch by a mile.

You're new mate, there's a general theory on this forum that it's not good practice to bet negatively against Liverpool and if you do keep it to yourself. Cheers mate 

[cornishscouser92]

Did you find a great big bag of heroin under your sofa, shoot up, and then decide to post on here?

What a weird post. No offense like.

As I've explained most of those players would come in if we pick up a few more injuries (likely given the hectic scheduling). Many are no where near PL level, we could've played until this time next week and not scored.

[OOS]

Exactly, much bigger fish to fry folks. Far too many people getting stressed out on here this afternoon...

What's a bigger fish to fry than the Fa Cup. Biggest domestic cup in the world.

We aren't Spurs who piss away winning trophies for pointless finish top 4 cup.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

This thread is the equivalent to people coming on here and complaining when our u23s lose a match.

But that doesn't happen.

You know why? Because they are kids and those that aren't are making up a complete mish-mash of a team. One player was playing his first competitive match for 15 months; another for 5 months.

It's hard to breakdown a side that literally keeps nine of its players in the box.

Get over it. We will smash them in the replay and then we will win the Cup.

[Kopite B205]

you called him a crab at half time, then he came out and proceded to have an excellent second half, making  lots of forward passes, going on a run and getting a free kick, making a good last man challenge to bail out gomez.

basically all this says to me is you're a shite judge of a holding midfielder (or just generally, probably)

It says to me you are a shite judge of a holding midfield player if you think that contribution is 'excellent'. When he's pressed to do anything forward thinking he's lost and his impact on the game was zero.

[El Lobo]

Mourinho set the blueprint for teams utterly devoid of attacking skill coming to Anfield and scraping a 0-0, blame him.

[hesbighesred]

plymouth came and got what they wanted.

they didnt come to play any football.
 

So many people saying this, and I don't get this at all, on several levels.

1. Teams can play however the fuck they want. The object of any game is to win it, the object of any set of tactics or overall strategy is to give yourself the best chance of doing that. The object is not to entertain neutrals so if a team chooses to play defensively - within the rules - and you can't break them down, well that's just part of the game. Grow up and learn how to do it better (if you're a player) or don't expect teams to play how you want them to (as a fan).

2. These guys are underdogs. In football, scoring is low frequency - it's hard to make chances. Playing defensively is a great way of maximising the chance of not just a result, but in an FA cup away leg, a lucrative home tie which, at Plymouth's level, can make a massive, massive difference to a club's finances.

3. The commentator's were banging on constantly about Plymouth's tight defence away from home. So are we saying they should have changed their style of play and gone more attacking when facing higher level opposition? Nonsensical.

Plymouth got a replay, they've done a fantastic job. Whining about their style of play smacks of sour grapes, especially as they're not exactly billionaires, are they? And their fans sure as fuck weren't complaining about it. And why would they?

[Red Beret]

Fecking hell this thread is embarrassing.  Full of people I don't seem to know pissing their pants because our youngsters couldn't beat an experienced League 2 side who came looking for a draw.  Oh the humanity!



An extra game to play Couthino back to fitness.  That's all.

[Hazell]

Update,  dull parents at party are talking about cars.  Even the post match thread is preferable to joining in with them!

Wow, those parents' conversations must be excrement then.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Clean sheet for Karius. It is what it is. Not worth twisting any knickers over.

[Crosby Nick]

Or they will see you approach and say to each other, heres this fucking boring bastard kinda make small talk thats what he does

Probably, couldn't give a shit!

[Gerry Attrick]

The main problem today is we had nobody who could dribble with the ball. Woodburn showed some really nice touches, but he was never a threat to take Plymouth players out of the game. Ojo didn't look like getting by players either, it was all just a bit samey.

[Gnurglan]

Klopp: "Not a well drilled team. You could see it in how they lost their patience with passing. They could still play better. I'm going to Plymouth for the first time now."

Good take on things.

[Motty]

Hardly pal, the team has a lot of games over the next month. The difference in performance from the first team and the second team is absolutely massive, they struggled to beat a team of farmers. We're gonna need a few of these lads when injuries etc happen. That's what I'm driving at. There's not a particularly good squad depth at LFC.

Awwww did the mighty Wiverpoool not beat your local club so all your matey mates are teasing you.

Diddums.

[Clint Eastwood]

The magic of the cup.

Probably the worst game we will see all season, our first-team would have struggled to shine against that. Even when they won free-kicks their manager was telling them to get back.

Good bunch of fans, Plymouth. If they enjoyed that then fair play.

[TepidT2O]

He had a few good runs in the first half and then didn't turn up for the second. So if this tells Klopp that he needs to buy then it was a useful game.

As you said Ojo isn't near Mane's class.

Whether he is or isn't...

He's been out for four months...

Cut the kid some slack folks!

[Crosby Nick]

Wow, those parents' conversations must be excrement then.

I'm just ear wigging,  don't think anyone knows who I am. Although I don't think there's a danger of anything exciting being said.

But enough about the post match thread. Wahey!

[12Kings]

Not fussed really.
Play the kids again in the replay.

This

[cornishscouser92]

Awwww did the mighty Wiverpoool not beat your local club so all your matey mates are teasing you.

Diddums.

They're not my local club.

[classycarra]

It says to me you are a shite judge of a holding midfield player if you think that contribution is 'excellent'. When he's pressed to do anything forward thinking he's lost and his impact on the game was zero.

nah, you just had an axe to grind and an agenda. and your shit shout at half time made you look stupid. but instead of acknowledging that, you doubled down to try and save face, andsuggested his second half was bad too. maybe i'm giving you too much credit, and you don't realise this

[rushyman]

Arsed

Kids play again at home park.

[McrRed]

So many people saying this, and I don't get this at all, on several levels.

1. Teams can play however the fuck they want. The object of any game is to win it, the object of any set of tactics or overall strategy is to give yourself the best chance of doing that. The object is not to entertain neutrals so if a team chooses to play defensively - within the rules - and you can't break them down, well that's just part of the game. Grow up and learn how to do it better (if you're a player) or don't expect teams to play how you want them to (as a fan).

2. These guys are underdogs. In football, scoring is low frequency - it's hard to make chances. Playing defensively is a great way of maximising the chance of not just a result, but in an FA cup away leg, a lucrative home tie which, at Plymouth's level, can make a massive, massive difference to a club's finances.

3. The commentator's were banging on constantly about Plymouth's tight defence away from home. So are we saying they should have changed their style of play and gone more attacking when facing higher level opposition? Nonsensical.

Plymouth got a replay, they've done a fantastic job. Whining about their style of play smacks of sour grapes, especially as they're not exactly billionaires, are they? And their fans sure as fuck weren't complaining about it. And why would they?

I'm quickly falling out of love with our over-entitled fanbase. You win some, you lose some. Some you draw, with a replay. Lots of learning. Perfect result.

[whtwht]

collectively not one of these starting is gonna challenge for a first 11 spot if all 11 are fit.  That's my main concern from this.

I thought exeter was as bad as it was gonna get with

bogdan
randall
ilori
enrique
smith
stewart
brannagan
kent
tex
benteke
sinclair.

in terms of quality, the side we put out today, just as far away as that lot, the gulf in ability is just as steep, we haven't really got a second string worthy of really pushing the first 11.   I hope we don't suffer towards the end of the season having to rely on the same 11/12/13 game in game out.

I feel the same. I reckon either injuries and lack of squad depth will eventually catch up with us.  Just relying on luck to get us through until the end of season.

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[hesbighesred]

They finally got to show what it's like to be unable to create any clear cut chances against a shite team.

Which is part of what you have to deal with in professional football at all levels. Good experience doesn't mean 'scored a hat-trick' or 'played amazingly', it means encountering a (new) situation and learning from it. Breaking down stubborn opposition is something they'll have to do in the future, so it is good experience, provided they react to it positively - something they've got the right coaching team to help them do.

[RK7]

Do the job down their place and never mention it again. Easy enough.

You're missing the point a lot of us are making. That side today was our 2nd string, not a youth side ( although they should be). We will need a strong squad to win anything this season, not just a strong 11.

[sms1986]

Fecking hell this thread is embarrassing.  Full of people pissing I don't seem to know pissing their pants because our youngsters couldn't beat an experienced League 2 side who came looking for a draw.  Oh the humanity!



An extra game to play Couthino back to fitness.  That's all.

Even if we had won 10-0 you would still get people whining about something. There was quite a few of the often scapegoated players on the pitch today so I'm sure one of them would have done something wrong.

[Malcolm Night]

The fact you even considered wanting us to lose is pathetic.

I didn't mean to convey it like that. I just don't want replays tiring our squad out for big league matches this month 

[jonnypb]

Well I hope the kids play again and most the first team are left at home as an unnecessary mid-week trip to Plymouth isn't what you want.....


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[Motty]

They're not my local club.

Close enough though eh.

Stop being a fucking drama queen, not the first time you've been one either.

[classycarra]

I didn't mean to convey it like that. I just don't want replays tiring our squad out for big league matches this month 

me too mate. i'll be gutted if woodburn isn't fresh and firing when he starts at old trafford

[hesbighesred]

collectively not one of these starting is gonna challenge for a first 11 spot if all 11 are fit.  That's my main concern from this.

Didn't several of today's starting 11 help put us through to the semis of the league cup, which we'll be playing this week, right?

[Reese]

Klopp: "Not a well drilled team. You could see it in how they lost their patience with passing. They could still play better. I'm going to Plymouth for the first time now."

Glad to see Klopp mention this straightaway. Amount of crosses was ridiculous.

Fair play to Plymouth for that performance, and their support! Knew what we would see and lost our heads in the second half.

Some players need to step up their game after that!

[Caligula?]

He had a few good runs in the first half and then didn't turn up for the second. So if this tells Klopp that he needs to buy then it was a useful game.

As you said Ojo isn't near Mane's class.

Anyone thinking we could temporarily replace what a £30+ million player offers us with a youngster must be seriously kidding themselves. We'll adapt without Mane, and Ojo isn't ready for the first team yet.

[lessthanmatt]

I didn't mean to convey it like that. I just don't want replays tiring our squad out for big league matches this month 

The players we play vs. Plymouth won't be the players we play vs. Chelsea or United

[Chakan]

Bunch of mewling quimms in this thread.

[Alan_X]

Yes it was a penalty but since we didn't trouble their keeper we didn't deserve to win.

Too many poor crosses especially from the right and no real attempt to beat players that are in the 4th tier.

Err... what? Since when was that a thing? If we'd had a penalty we would have 'troubled the keeper'. A penalty is a penalty. They shouldn't be awarded or not based on the number of shots on target.

[mikeb58]

Type of game they could have nicked with a bit of luck or ambition. All this absolute 'dread' of an extra game, fuck me it's only a footy match in Plymouth...looking forward to it myself!

Midweek replay in the FA Cup against inferior opposition, hardly the 1st time it's ever happened in our history!

With a squad like ours we'll still probably go through, another game under their belts for the youngsters,who with a bit more space away from home may find a way through.

Disappointed we didn't win today, but hardly a massive shock all things considered.

[hesbighesred]

As you said Ojo isn't near Mane's class.

Quite apart from his age, isn't that also Ojo's first start after a long injury lay off? I thought he looked alright, considering. Rusty, definitely - but evidence of his pace and touch were there. It would have been quite something if he'd hit 100% on his first game back, surely?