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[CraigDS]

[4pool]

Q: Steven can you tell us how many stadium plans Everton have had in the last 20 years including today's announcement?

[Chakan]

So they've not actually announcing a stadium they're announcing they've bought land that might one day have a stadium on it?

Stadium without stadium?

[Crosby Nick]

That's the big announcement?  Fellaini's coming back?

[dylman]

So they've not actually announcing a stadium they're announcing they've bought land that might one day have a stadium on it?

Stadium without stadium?

Not even that, they have announced an option to buy some land when they secure funding. 

[CraigDS]

So they've not actually announcing a stadium they're announcing they've bought land that might one day have a stadium on it?

Stadium without stadium?

No, they haven't even bought the land.

They're announcing they will buy the land after they get funding, which will happen after they get planning permission, which will happen after they get some actual plans.

So yeah. Announcement.

[4pool]

Nostalgia from 2001...

Everton's stadium fit for a king
23 Jul 2001

EVERTON have been given permission to build a 55,000-capacity stadium on the Mersey waterfront at King's Dock.

The club have six months to prove the £155 million scheme is viable and put the finance in place but Bill Kenwright, the Everton owner and deputy chairman, is confident the move will go ahead.

Kenwright said: "We have the opportunity to have the finest arena, the finest football stadium, in the world - it's mind-blowing. Every time we look it gets better. There is a real vision behind these plans and I aim to ensure that vision becomes a reality.

"We have spent a great deal of time on these plans already and visited a number of other arenas around the world, like the Amsterdam ArenA, to give us a better idea of what we are working with. The experts have told us in no uncertain terms it can be a success. I'm very excited.

"I'm sure Arsenal or Leeds, who are also working towards new stadiums, would be delighted to have the opportunity we now have. We are not going to let this chance pass us by."

Paul Gregg, an Everton director, said: "The key to the success of the King's Dock is to create a major attraction of international significance on the waterfront, raising the profile of Liverpool while providing the facilities for local, regional and international visitors."

Everton will hope the building of the stadium, about five miles from Goodison Park, goes smoother than yesterday's announcement in an office block housing a Titanic exhibition.

A promotional video opened with a shot of Francis Jeffers, who joined Arsenal last month, while, within moments of Kenwright's closing speech, an information panel broke free of its wall mounting and crashed to the floor.

Everton hope to be playing at their new home by 2005. The new stadium - yet to be named but likely to include a corporate sponsor in its title - will boast a sliding roof, moving tiers of seats and a retractable pitch.

Everton have already encountered fierce objections from residents of the affluent Albert Dock area near the proposed site and potential traffic and parking problems at the riverside venue have become a major issue.

The development will including parking space for just 2,800 cars and there will only be one major road in and out of the complex.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/3009397/Evertons-stadium-fit-for-a-king.html

[DonkeyWan]

So they've not actually announcing a stadium they're announcing they've bought land that might one day have a stadium on it?

Stadium without stadium?

Announcing they have agreed to buy the land if they ever have enough money to build a stadium.

[4pool]

Nostalgia from 2001...

Everton's stadium fit for a king
23 Jul 2001



Kenwright said: "We have the opportunity to have the finest arena, the finest football stadium, in the world - it's mind-blowing. Every time we look it gets better. There is a real vision behind these plans and I aim to ensure that vision becomes a reality.

As it was mind blowing in 2001...we've only just now go our heads back on, only to have another mind blowing announcement..

[Andy @ Allerton!]

[DonkeyWan]

So, to sum up Everton's new stadium plans during the last generation

King's Docks

"Alright, yeah, we'll have a bit of that, nice... oh wait, we have no money, damn!"

Ground share

"Oh, well, if we have to, we'll share a ground with you. What do you mean, unsolicited approach? No, seriously, what does unsolicited mean? Wait, you don't want to share with us? Well fuck off then, we weren't going to pay for it anyway.... oh, go on please. Fine. Bitches. But you'll be sorry when we build our huge 80,000 seater stadium"

Kirkby

"*sigh*, a bit shit but yeah, it will do, Tesco are paying for it all right? No? What about the council? Is nobody paying for it for us, no?"

Some random park

"I was taking the dog for a walk last night and he stopped for a shit and that made me think, fucking hell, this place would be ideal for a stadium... ohyeahmoneynevermindhohum"

Down on the docks

"Sweet, if we ever have money I am totally going to buy this site!"

There does seem to be a common theme in all this.

[Qston]

A promotional video opened with a shot of Francis Jeffers, who joined Arsenal last month, while, within moments of Kenwright's closing speech, an information panel broke free of its wall mounting and crashed to the floor.

I don`t remember that happening but that is just magnificent and so apt.

[El Lobo]

So, to sum up Everton's new stadium plans during the last generation

King's Docks

"Alright, yeah, we'll have a bit of that, nice... oh wait, we have no money, damn!"

Ground share

"Oh, well, if we have to, we'll share a ground with you. What do you mean, unsolicited approach? No, seriously, what does unsolicited mean? Wait, you don't want to share with us? Well fuck off then, we weren't going to pay for it anyway.... oh, go on please. Fine. Bitches. But you'll be sorry when we build our huge 80,000 seater stadium"

Kirkby

"*sigh*, a bit shit but yeah, it will do, Tesco are paying for it all right? No? What about the council? Is nobody paying for it for us, no?"

Some random park

"I was taking the dog for a walk last night and he stopped for a shit and that made me think, fucking hell, this place would be ideal for a stadium... ohyeahmoneynevermindhohum"

Down on the docks

"Sweet, if we ever have money I am totally going to buy this site!"

There does seem to be a common theme in all this.

Sounds to me like you have a pretty severe case of cranial loss fracture

[RedSince86]

This song is so apt.

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[Mahern]

Don't you have to get a reference from your last two landlords? A repossession won't look good on their credit search?

[stevo7]

I wouldn't mind the council building a new stadium for the Commonwealth Games that was then rented by Everton.

I'd love the Festival Gardens site to be turned into an athletes village for it with mini stadiums for indoor sports, rugby, football - City of Liverpool FC could move in later. Then after the games, the area is turned into a Sports City - there could be a school/academy - like technical academies, but educating local childen who also excel at sport. Facilities could be used by other local schools, and clubs. Other areas of the ex-village could be used as a hotel - and if council owned, pull in more money for the council to use on servcies.


But the council would need to set a rent figure palpable to Liverpool City taxpayers. As others have pointed out in this thread, the council can 'earn' money from this investment. It's the amount Everton would pay which will sway voters in local elections.

For instance Man City entered into agreemnet to pay the council £2m a year just for stadium naming rights in 2011 -
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/oct/04/manchester-city-council-stadium-naming-rights

Thats on top of rent.

[CraigDS]

For instance Man City entered into agreemnet to pay the council £2m a year just for stadium naming rights in 2011 -
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/oct/04/manchester-city-council-stadium-naming-rights

Thats on top of rent.

They paid £2m a year in rent prior to that - which is a shocking figure given the cost of the stadium. It would need to be 10x this for it to even come close to being a good deal for the council, if not more.

[pezzzer]

So to sum up then
They have the land (without having the land)
They have the planning (without having the planning)
They have the funding (obviously without having the funding)
How very everton.
I'm sure there all very happy on GOT, Wales will be having one big party tonite That's real progress in 17 years.

[Andy82lfc]

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Sorry, my head fell off onto the keyboard.

[Crosby Nick]

A promotional video opened with a shot of Francis Jeffers, who joined Arsenal last month, while, within moments of Kenwright's closing speech, an information panel broke free of its wall mounting and crashed to the floor.

I don`t remember that happening but that is just magnificent and so apt.

That was the ghost of Dixie Dean making his feelings known.

[elsewhere]

So they've not actually announcing a stadium they're announcing they've bought land that might one day have a stadium on it?

Stadium without stadium?

 

[Ziltoid]

Or big Dunc practising his headbutting.

[4pool]

So has it been announced yet?

Announcement without announcement then..

[Andy @ Allerton!]

"Space age design!"

[4pool]

5 pm all will be revealed apparently...according to the Red Echo as they call it..

[Andy @ Allerton!]

5 pm all will be revealed apparently...according to the Red Echo as they call it..

[paulrazor]

theyll end up with this probably

[Thush]

theyll end up with this probably

Still an upgrade though.

[adruk87]

Moshiri doing his "pretending to have money" thing again.

I think you'll find he has £1.3 Billion cash.

[CraigDS]

I think you'll find he has £1.3 Billion cash.

No he has given that to Everton.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Moshiri doing his "pretending to have money" thing again.

[stevo7]

They paid £2m a year in rent prior to that - which is a shocking figure given the cost of the stadium. It would need to be 10x this for it to even come close to being a good deal for the council, if not more.

I suppose overall costs will determine the rent, which as I said will have to be of a sufficient amount to palpable to City of Liverpool tax payers - like myself.
Otherwise Fat Joe will be booted out - We had a Lim Dem council not too long ago.

I was pointing out there should be a separate annual payment for naming rights on top of the rent.
How much they would get is hard to guess.  The amount Man City receive for stadium naming rights are inflated to circumvent FFP.
But it should be well over £2m a year to the council for stadium naming rights alone, that Man city negotiated in 2011.

[4pool]

Wonder at the 5 pm announcement, how much of the same language that was used for the Kings Dock announcement will be used again today?

Watch and see if the two announcements are similar..

[McrRed]

They paid £2m a year in rent prior to that - which is a shocking figure given the cost of the stadium. It would need to be 10x this for it to even come close to being a good deal for the council, if not more.

Just to clarify, the upper echelons of Manchester city council are all blue, through and through. Its like the Freemasons. Scandalous really.

[Purple Red]

5pm? Enjoy these precious final minutes with your heads lads.

[CraigDS]

5pm? Enjoy these precious final minutes with your heads lads.

These pesky Evertonians aren't making me lose my head, I'm taking precautions...

[Crosby Nick]

5pm? Enjoy these precious final minutes with your heads lads.

I'm going to sell you to the local blind kid at 5.30pm.

[El Lobo]

[CraigDS]

Never gets old 

[elsewhere]

theyll end up with this probably

or this