Topic: Christmas fixtures 2017

[4pool]

Gary Lineker ‏@GaryLineker

If you think this PL holiday fixture list is mad, here's next year: December 16/20/23/26/30 January 1. World Cup follows. Utterly Bonkers.



Good job Premier League, way to think of the fans...lol.

Those are the scheduled dates. Then tv will chime in and there will be football about every day after Christmas when they move matches around.

Not to mention, save your money for so many matches in a short period of time.

[TheSpionKopNC]

saw that mentioned on twitter yesterday.

That's way too many matches in a short period of time.

[CraigDS]

Here is hoping (well, not really) a couple of non-LFC English players get season ending injuries due to playing so many games and end up missing the WC.

[Uncle Ronnie]

saw that mentioned on twitter yesterday.

That's way too many matches in a short period of time.

1/6th of the season played out over 16 days apparently

Utter madness.

[MerseysideBrum]

Good job Premier League, way to think of the fans...lol.

They are thinking of the fans? Just not the players and clubs.

[CraigDS]

They are thinking of the fans? Just not the players and clubs.

He was being sarcastic. In no way is that many games in that many days thinking of the match going fan. Arm chair fans maybe.

[gatcliffe]

Food for thought not only do players get tired a thought for the officials too hence the many mistakes maybe.Hopefully more officials will be deployed.

[Alf]

I've got to concur with what Tony Barrett said yesterday and that clubs need to take this up when doing the next PL tv deal.

[SP]

There should be a change in the rules. Minimum time between two kick offs of 66 hours - that allows a Wednesday 8pm to be followed by a Saturday 3pm - which is reasonable.

Make it a regulation and it minimises the disproportionate impact of the fixtures. TV can tend be curtailed in the damage they can do.

There is not reason even those fixtures could not be arranged with a minimum interval between games.

They can have an extremis clause in the event of multiple postponements - but we have not got close to those conditions yet - frozen or unplayable pitches are now a rarity.

[matt_lfc]

Would the clubs care? There getting x amount of millions out the tv deals.

If am right in thinking from what I've read that this season the team that finishes bottom is getting more than Liverpool did 3 years ago when finishing 2nd out the tv deal money?

[CraigDS]

Would the clubs care? There getting x amount of millions out the tv deals.

And they still would get those millions (let's be honest, the deal isn't the size it is due to being able to shoehorn an additional fixture in over Xmas), they'd just also be able to safeguard the health of their players.

So yeah, they'd definitely care.

[Lasardine]

Klopp had it spot on. What is the purpose of playing on the Monday? None were even on TV except Leicester-Boro. Why couldn't all games have been on today? Sky could still broadcast Spurs, no big deal. It's a fucking joke, no regard of the fans or players. Next season we'll need a bigger squad to cope because we cannot keep playing the same XI, it's unsustainable and could have serious repercussions towards the run-in. This season there's no Europe so we might get away with it.

I'd even be tempted to forfeit the match if we get another game within 48 hours next season, see how they fucking like that.

[killer-heels]

Is that every team playing on those days or is it just the ways the 3 or so fixtures are spread?

[4pool]

Klopp had it spot on. What is the purpose of playing on the Monday? None were even on TV except Leicester-Boro. Why couldn't all games have been on today? Sky could still broadcast Spurs, no big deal. It's a fucking joke, no regard of the fans or players. Next season we'll need a bigger squad to cope because we cannot keep playing the same XI, it's unsustainable and could have serious repercussions towards the run-in. This season there's no Europe so we might get away with it.

I'd even be tempted to forfeit the match if we get another game within 48 hours next season, see how they fucking like that.

All were on tv...just not where you live.

[Purple Red]

There should be a change in the rules. Minimum time between two kick offs of 66 hours - that allows a Wednesday 8pm to be followed by a Saturday 3pm - which is reasonable.

Make it a regulation and it minimises the disproportionate impact of the fixtures. TV can tend be curtailed in the damage they can do.

There is not reason even those fixtures could not be arranged with a minimum interval between games.

They can have an extremis clause in the event of multiple postponements - but we have not got close to those conditions yet - frozen or unplayable pitches are now a rarity.

Totally agree.

[JackWard33]

There should be a change in the rules. Minimum time between two kick offs of 66 hours - that allows a Wednesday 8pm to be followed by a Saturday 3pm - which is reasonable.

Make it a regulation and it minimises the disproportionate impact of the fixtures. TV can tend be curtailed in the damage they can do.

There is not reason even those fixtures could not be arranged with a minimum interval between games.

They can have an extremis clause in the event of multiple postponements - but we have not got close to those conditions yet - frozen or unplayable pitches are now a rarity.

Totally.

Also hard to understand why TV needs to be affected at all.
We still have huge clumps of fixtures on the same day - just space them out more but have fixtures on more days so that teams are guaranteed the minimum rest period you suggest.
TV can still pick games and get the same amount of fixtures over the holidays

[Jake]

All were on tv...just not where you live.

Yep. Niko from Serbia could watch it fine at home. Remi and Sven from Sweden caught it at the pub, Brock and Thad watched it with their morning OJ in the good ol' US of A, but the local people who want to go to the games, but can't as there's been 4 in a week... fuck them.

[Giono]

I've got to concur with what Tony Barrett said yesterday and that clubs need to take this up when doing the next PL tv deal.

It's bad product for viewers to watch. The league should not allow this sort of scheduling.

[CHOPPER]

350 more sleeps till the next pile of shite

[Sir Afghan]

Klopp had it spot on. What is the purpose of playing on the Monday? None were even on TV except Leicester-Boro. Why couldn't all games have been on today? Sky could still broadcast Spurs, no big deal. It's a fucking joke, no regard of the fans or players. Next season we'll need a bigger squad to cope because we cannot keep playing the same XI, it's unsustainable and could have serious repercussions towards the run-in. This season there's no Europe so we might get away with it.

I'd even be tempted to forfeit the match if we get another game within 48 hours next season, see how they fucking like that.

Much rather play a game away at Sunderland on a bank holiday than a work day.

[Medellin]

Sadly,the powers that be whether thats the FA or Tv rights/deals will always take the fucking piss til the fans stand up & together across the country tell them to fuck off.
Managers have complained about this it seems forever & does anyone listen?
The only time people listen is when it affects their pockets.
SP spot on with the 66hr scheduling.

[iamnant]

I can understand Sky / BT wanting to show a certain amount of games over the festive period but there's no reason why the matches can't be spread out over those dates so that there's at least 1 game per night but not as many fixtures per club.

Although this is what this bumper TV deal gets you - the power's shifted.

[Fordy]

Don't have a problem with the fixtures. My main problem is they're not fair.

Chelsea for example played their games over 10 days and didn't have to go outside of London.

Everyone should play on the same day.

[4pool]

The simple thing is to take the 20 teams, cut them in half.

5 matches on one day, 5 matches the next.

Take the 10 teams that played the first day, give them 3 days, and swap them around. Then another 3 days, swap them again.

No team gets the advantage of rest.

Do the same for the other 10 teams from day 2, give them 3 days, and swap them around. Then another 3 days, swap them again.

Fixture list and tv  are all sorted.

Further try to get the 10 teams sorted by geography so the supporters aren't travelling back and forth across the country.

[RayPhilAlan]

Gary Lineker ‏@GaryLineker

If you think this PL holiday fixture list is mad, here's next year: December 16/20/23/26/30 January 1. World Cup follows. Utterly Bonkers.

Most of those are just Saturday/Wednesday/Saturday etc. That should be fine, and assuming we're back in Europe next year we should be used to it.

The only bit that's tough is the Dec 30/Jan 1 double round. Whoever gets the last game actually on Jan 2 or 3 will be the lucky ones.

[plasterered]

Don't have a problem with the fixtures. My main problem is they're not fair.

Chelsea for example played their games over 10 days and didn't have to go outside of London.

Everyone should play on the same day.

this

exactly this.

the Chelsea scenario is terrible especialy given the close competition between us and them and the contrast in our fixtures.

utd have a day on us also next PL game ok its not a 44 hr turnaround but still a huge game given current standings

[DaveCharlie]

Most of those are just Saturday/Wednesday/Saturday etc. That should be fine, and assuming we're back in Europe next year we should be used to it.

The only bit that's tough is the Dec 30/Jan 1 double round. Whoever gets the last game actually on Jan 2 or 3 will be the lucky ones.

SATURDAY December 16
WEDNESDAY December 20
SATURDAY December 23
TUESDAY December 26
SATURDAY December 30
MONDAY January 1

Three games in seven days on occasion might seem okay, but there are two sets of three games in six days here which is utter, utter madness.

[LiverpoolKopKings]

Don't have a problem with the fixtures. My main problem is they're not fair.

Chelsea for example played their games over 10 days and didn't have to go outside of London.

Everyone should play on the same day.

That is exactly the point. I started a thread exactly on this subject were I argued about this. I believe that they can cram as many games as they want as long as it is fair.

Obviously there will be injuries with so many games, so they really cannot fit as much as they want but every fixtures day should see all teams play a game. This shit of some playing on different dates to accommodate the tv scum is bollocks.

If the TV companies are paying the money, the clubs are offering the attraction that is in turn earning the TV companies much more then they dish out.

Also for next year, if fuckin England wants to favor the national team, they can slot a mid week evening FULL fixture somewhere were there is no CL, europa league or national teams play. If they do this once or twice it should also alleviate the burden on the Christmas period.

I know this is not fair on the fans, especially the traveling lot, but somewhere somehow, there needs to be the disruption.

[matt_lfc]

Don't have a problem with the fixtures. My main problem is they're not fair.

Chelsea for example played their games over 10 days and didn't have to go outside of London.

Everyone should play on the same day.

Palace never left London in all there games, yet Allardyce still moaned about it, maybe because they didn't win any of them...

[vicar]

Klopp had it spot on. What is the purpose of playing on the Monday? None were even on TV except Leicester-Boro. Why couldn't all games have been on today? Sky could still broadcast Spurs, no big deal. It's a fucking joke, no regard of the fans or players. Next season we'll need a bigger squad to cope because we cannot keep playing the same XI, it's unsustainable and could have serious repercussions towards the run-in. This season there's no Europe so we might get away with it.

Completely. I understand that TV moves fixtures around although I have missed a couple of games this season because of this irritant. But when its not on TV why was it put on that date when there are other games on weds? Baffled.
I understand we asked to move it but it was rejected?

[mainone]

Can't see there being games on the 20th

[ThePeetmix]

And it's any wonder English players lack sharpness when they end up at international tournaments? This is just a stupid amount of games in this timeframe. All it does is take away quality from the league.

[MerseysideBrum]

He was being sarcastic. In no way is that many games in that many days thinking of the match going fan. Arm chair fans maybe.

By armchair fans you mean the millions that aren't at Anfield for every game. Not really their fault we have more than 54,000 fans is it. Don't see how this is an issue for fans when we pay the money for most tickets up front in membership sales anyway regardless of when they're scheduled. It's bad on the players due to injuries and clubs due to disparity in rest time but having football to watch and/or go to during the festive period is hardly a negative for fans.

[4pool]

SATURDAY December 16
WEDNESDAY December 20
SATURDAY December 23
TUESDAY December 26
SATURDAY December 30
MONDAY January 1

Three games in seven days on occasion might seem okay, but there are two sets of three games in six days here which is utter, utter madness.

To put this in perspective. Over the same time frame this holiday season we had ---4--- matches. Not 6.

They are squeezing in the extra fixtures to help England and their World Cup chances by having the League end a bit earlier.

[newterp]

idiotic - so many injuries waiting to happen.

[d1ward]

Would be ironic if some English players picked up injuries around Christmas that affected their participation in the world cup.

[Uncle Ronnie]

SATURDAY December 16
WEDNESDAY December 20
SATURDAY December 23
TUESDAY December 26
SATURDAY December 30
MONDAY January 1

Three games in seven days on occasion might seem okay, but there are two sets of three games in six days here which is utter, utter madness.

Throw in a potential league cup quarter final and final round of champions league games at the start of the month, and coming off international games mid Nov too

[quinny]

To put this in perspective. Over the same time frame this holiday season we had ---4--- matches. Not 6.

They are squeezing in the extra fixtures to help England and their World Cup chances by having the League end a bit earlier.

They should start it earlier.

[Chakan]

They should start it earlier.

They should fuck right off!

[TheShanklyGates]

They should start it earlier.

They should end the season at the usual time, England will fall on their arses whatever they do.