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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #120 on: December 12, 2016, 03:13:07 pm »
LInk to ITV for those outside the UK

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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #121 on: December 12, 2016, 03:36:56 pm »
Is there anybody who isn't looking forward to watching it?

I'll give it a go but there's a chance I might end up turning it over and just read about it the next day.

I was at the match (13 at the time) and I found it difficult at times to follow the inquests.

I started remembering things about the day.  Really little things like standing on the bridge waiting to meet my brother before we went in.  I remember my Sister In Law going through the same set of turnstiles for the West Stand that we ended up going through for the Leppings Lane stand (the seats behind the terrace).

Nobody I know personally was seriously injured (one mate carried away after fainting) but those small snippets, brought back further floods of detail that I wish wasn't in my head.
 
Of course, I'm very happy that even more of the real truth is coming out so I hope that doesn't come across the wrong way.

And well in to those of you that's been involved with it.
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #122 on: December 12, 2016, 03:46:00 pm »
Is there anybody who isn't looking forward to watching it?

I'll give it a go but there's a chance I might end up turning it over and just read about it the next day.

I was at the match (13 at the time) and I found it difficult at times to follow the inquests.

I started remembering things about the day.  Really little things like standing on the bridge waiting to meet my brother before we went in.  I remember my Sister In Law going through the same set of turnstiles for the West Stand that we ended up going through for the Leppings Lane stand (the seats behind the terrace).

Nobody I know personally was seriously injured (one mate carried away after fainting) but those small snippets, brought back further floods of detail that I wish wasn't in my head.
 
Of course, I'm very happy that even more of the real truth is coming out so I hope that doesn't come across the wrong way.

And well in to those of you that's been involved with it.

I think it fair to say a few in Yorkshire and the West Mids won't be looking forward  ;D

But you make a serious point, as any news coverage will bring traumatic memories to the fore for anyone involved.  If your head isn't in good place then definitely leave it and come back when you feel ready.  Nothing wrong in that.     

Not sure if you have survivor mates you are able to talk to, but if not I'd also recommend you follow RichieG_Lfc on twitter, as I know he is trying to arrange a regular drink for fellow survivors to offer each other support.     Plus he's pretty funny too. 


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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #123 on: December 12, 2016, 04:09:38 pm »
I think it fair to say a few in Yorkshire and the West Mids won't be looking forward  ;D

But you make a serious point, as any news coverage will bring traumatic memories to the fore for anyone involved.  If your head isn't in good place then definitely leave it and come back when you feel ready.  Nothing wrong in that.     

Not sure if you have survivor mates you are able to talk to, but if not I'd also recommend you follow RichieG_Lfc on twitter, as I know he is trying to arrange a regular drink for fellow survivors to offer each other support.     Plus he's pretty funny too.

I don't think of myself as a survivor because I was never in any physical danger during the day.  I wouldn't think as myself as emotionally damaged by it, it's not something that I have problems with on a regular basis.

It's just something that might, brings back disturbing images that feel a lot more real than looking at pictures or watching footage.  It's really only when my memory gets jogged by something I'd forgotten or was a bit hazy.

It's also completely possible that I'll be absolutely fine watching it, it all depends on the contents.  It's not usually graphic content either.  For example, during the inquests I watched the video of the crush outside and didn't have any problems.  I then looked at a picture of my whereabouts when the ground had only just opened and that then brought back other memories.  It's difficult to explain.

It's nothing that I'm too concerned about, I might just end up turning over and then talk about it at a later date.

Phrases like 'essential viewing' feels a bit wrong, although I know that's  just me being a bit pedantic due to uncertainty about what it's going to show.

 

 

 
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #124 on: December 12, 2016, 05:00:00 pm »
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #125 on: December 12, 2016, 05:19:12 pm »
I don't think of myself as a survivor because I was never in any physical danger during the day.  I wouldn't think as myself as emotionally damaged by it, it's not something that I have problems with on a regular basis.

It's just something that might, brings back disturbing images that feel a lot more real than looking at pictures or watching footage.  It's really only when my memory gets jogged by something I'd forgotten or was a bit hazy.

It's also completely possible that I'll be absolutely fine watching it, it all depends on the contents.  It's not usually graphic content either.  For example, during the inquests I watched the video of the crush outside and didn't have any problems.  I then looked at a picture of my whereabouts when the ground had only just opened and that then brought back other memories.  It's difficult to explain.

It's nothing that I'm too concerned about, I might just end up turning over and then talk about it at a later date.

Phrases like 'essential viewing' feels a bit wrong, although I know that's  just me being a bit pedantic due to uncertainty about what it's going to show.


I think phrases like "essential viewing" are very much aimed at those who were not there or connected, in so far as the story of the cover up remains largely untold.   What is broadcast tonight is a whole lot more than the SYP changed some statements.   They went out of their way (so it is alleged) to fabricate stories to smear fans, fans like me and you.

But I take your point that isn't a fun watch.   It will be an incredibly uncomfortable watch for many.  I personally also hope many find it validates some of what they have been saying for years (I know I do ref WMP altering a statement as they did to mine).   

But as ever, different people will have different opinions, experiences and different thoughts.  Nothing wrong with that and I hope they get the right tone.    But this is a national scandal far bigger than was originally thought and everyone I know involved in any aspect is keen that the story be told.


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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #126 on: December 12, 2016, 05:56:03 pm »
I don't think of myself as a survivor because I was never in any physical danger during the day.  I wouldn't think as myself as emotionally damaged by it, it's not something that I have problems with on a regular basis.

It's just something that might, brings back disturbing images that feel a lot more real than looking at pictures or watching footage.  It's really only when my memory gets jogged by something I'd forgotten or was a bit hazy.

It's also completely possible that I'll be absolutely fine watching it, it all depends on the contents.  It's not usually graphic content either.  For example, during the inquests I watched the video of the crush outside and didn't have any problems.  I then looked at a picture of my whereabouts when the ground had only just opened and that then brought back other memories.  It's difficult to explain.

It's nothing that I'm too concerned about, I might just end up turning over and then talk about it at a later date.

Phrases like 'essential viewing' feels a bit wrong, although I know that's  just me being a bit pedantic due to uncertainty about what it's going to show.

 

 
Mate, you have nothing to apologise for, or even justify your views. Every time I hear "la Bamba" on the radio or wherever, I am back standing on that terrace... It was played over the tannoy prior to the game and it stuck in my head ever since, associated with the day. What is important is that you don't bottle it up. As BL said there are others out there who don't claim to be survivors but everyone who witnessed it first hand was a victim. If you can't watch it then that's OK. What we are trying to do is get those who weren't there to see exactly why we need to keep on fighting for justice. Take care
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #127 on: December 12, 2016, 06:35:59 pm »
Don't forget to post a link so some of us can watch after.
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #128 on: December 12, 2016, 06:41:14 pm »
Peter Marshall talking about making the Hillsborough documentary tonight on the latest Anfield Wrap podcast, 58:40 mto it

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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #129 on: December 12, 2016, 07:16:59 pm »
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #130 on: December 12, 2016, 09:47:16 pm »
Don't forget to post a link so some of us can watch after.

If anyone can do this, would be much appreciated. TIA.
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #131 on: December 12, 2016, 09:49:32 pm »
Right you lot - put this in the calendar. Watch. Spread the word.

This is something that a handful of dedicated and pretty f*cking wonderful members of this forum have been involved with.
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #132 on: December 12, 2016, 09:53:32 pm »
Not watching it. Can't watch this sort of thing on a work night as I'll be angered and won't kip all night. I'll tape it and watch it at the weekend when I can be more composed and let my ire have its space. 
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #133 on: December 12, 2016, 10:01:22 pm »
I'll watch it at a later date, but unable to watch tonight due to the time as I get up quite early for work.

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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #134 on: December 12, 2016, 10:29:19 pm »
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #135 on: December 12, 2016, 10:31:38 pm »
This should be available online at some point after the show right?

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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #136 on: December 12, 2016, 10:33:58 pm »
Not looking forward to this at all.

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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #137 on: December 12, 2016, 10:36:33 pm »
Have reminded my facebook pals. Even if you're not watching it please do the same on whatever social media you use...  :)

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« Reply #138 on: December 12, 2016, 10:39:12 pm »
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #139 on: December 12, 2016, 10:41:50 pm »
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #141 on: December 12, 2016, 10:54:10 pm »
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #142 on: December 12, 2016, 10:55:10 pm »
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #143 on: December 12, 2016, 11:02:12 pm »
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« Reply #144 on: December 12, 2016, 11:03:12 pm »
Fuming here

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« Reply #145 on: December 12, 2016, 11:04:01 pm »
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #146 on: December 12, 2016, 11:04:37 pm »
Fucking disgraceful.
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #147 on: December 12, 2016, 11:04:51 pm »
This is such a difficult watch.
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #148 on: December 12, 2016, 11:06:10 pm »
I still manage to be amazed at how this has gone on so long  :no
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« Reply #149 on: December 12, 2016, 11:06:19 pm »
Just don't understand why she wasn't allowed to be cross examined. Especially considering the social network stuff as well. All the stories that have been made up, by the Police, Richards, MPS, and people linked with these people, you have to ask - why do I feel like we're still only scratching the surface with the answers.

I very much doubt we'll ever get what we all want at the end of this, which is 100% transparency, 100% truth and 100% justice.

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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #150 on: December 12, 2016, 11:06:26 pm »
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #151 on: December 12, 2016, 11:06:52 pm »
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« Reply #152 on: December 12, 2016, 11:18:43 pm »
Sir Dave Richards still employed by The FA should be sacked and stripped of his title and sent to jail.

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« Reply #153 on: December 12, 2016, 11:18:55 pm »
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #154 on: December 12, 2016, 11:19:08 pm »
If only Irvine Patnick MP was still alive to face the music like these scumbags are going to have to.

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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #155 on: December 12, 2016, 11:21:08 pm »
I'd like to see that horrible vermin Paul Middup face justice.

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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #156 on: December 12, 2016, 11:21:08 pm »
Doesn't get any easier to watch, even since the inquest verdicts. Still so much coming out to this day.
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #157 on: December 12, 2016, 11:22:05 pm »
Just don't understand why she wasn't allowed to be cross examined. Especially considering the social network stuff as well. All the stories that have been made up, by the Police, Richards, MPS, and people linked with these people, you have to ask - why do I feel like we're still only scratching the surface with the answers.

I very much doubt we'll ever get what we all want at the end of this, which is 100% transparency, 100% truth and 100% justice.

My biggest fear is we get one or two held accountable for Hillsborough and the rest of the stuff that's coming out gets brushed under the carpet.

You have to wonder how far beyond Hillsborough this goes as well. When their first response to tragedy was to cover their own arses what else have they covered up? The only reason we have got so far with Hillsborough is because of the dedicated campaign behind it - what may have happened in other instances of police misconduct where the victims didn't have the goodwill and financial support of millions of people? It doesn't even bear thinking about.
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #158 on: December 12, 2016, 11:25:05 pm »
Fucking disgraceful what does interviewers tried to do to the people they questioned.
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Re: Documentary: Hillsborough: Smears, Survivors & The Search For Truth, 12th Dec
« Reply #159 on: December 12, 2016, 11:34:38 pm »
I'm really mixed off.