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The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« on: March 18, 2009, 10:11:43 pm »
Can't wait for this , due out on 17th April and offers up the tantalising opportunity of seeing Peter Capaldi going head to head with James Gandolfini for potentially the only rival to the Full Metal jacket swearing record.




Set visit: 'In The Loop' with Armando Iannucci
'The Thick Of It' creator Armando Iannucci is holed up in deepest Ickenham applying his comic gifts to a film. And yes, it‘s about politics. Time Out joins him on set
I’m standing in a cramped room full of wires and monitors and young runners with clipboards in a seventeenth-century mansion on the edge of north London. It’s been turned into a mini film studio for ‘In The Loop,’ a new political comedy from the team behind ‘The Thick of It’. Next door there’s a room dressed to look like an office in Downing Street – wooden panels, mahogany desk, and on the windowsill a tasteful model of a rampant horse. Elsewhere in London, set designers are busying themselves for other scenes that will be shot in the coming weeks: a sports hall in Mill Hill will double as the inside of the US State Department, and the Royal Festival Hall will miraculously become the interior of the United Nations headquarters.

Director and writer Armando Iannucci has already satirised the psycho that lurks deep within the political psychology of Whitehall in his TV series ‘The Thick of It’. Now, for cinema, he’s shepherding many of the same team back and forth across the Atlantic to envisage what might go on behind closed doors in London and Washington in the lead-up to a not-so-fictional war in the Middle East.

I hear the actor Peter Capaldi through my headphones before I see him. He’s playing to the camera next door, while Iannucci is sitting across from me watching the action unfold on his video monitor. I take a look. There he is: Capaldi is playing Malcolm, the Glaswegian enforcer, a government spin-lizard with eyes so deep in their sockets that you wonder if he ever sleeps and language so blue Yves Klein could paint with it.

‘You’re a fucking farce. I should just replace you with a Benny Hill chase sequence and some jazzy saxophone and be done with it,’ Capaldi is barking at Chris Addison, immediately recognisable as the lanky, shaggy-haired actor who played political lackey Olly alongside Capaldi in ‘The Thick of It’. Today, Addison is playing a chap named Toby who is Olly in everything but name: a Whitehall wannabe with a sado-masochistic desire to work with arseholes and a taste for sleeping with women on the other side of the political divide (this time he has a one-night stand with a US State Department flunky). Also in the scene are actors Tom Hollander and Gina McKee, both new to Iannucci’s gang. McKee is playing a civil service press chief; Hollander takes the role of Simon Foster, a government minister at the centre of a sharp-tongued game of political intrigue. Hollander is a politician with less power than he thinks. It’s a role similar to the one played by Chris Langham in the first series of ‘The Thick of It’, before his conviction for downloading child pornography ruled him out of any further involvement in the series.

During a break, I grab Hollander. He’s feeling nervous about stepping into a comic troupe with such a strong reputation for combining on-the-edge comedy with sharp political commentary. Before ‘The Thick of It’, Iannucci collaborated with Chris Morris on ‘The Day Today’.

Before that, he worked with Steve Coogan on the Alan Partridge shows and hosted his own comic news review, ‘Friday Night Armistice’. You can understand why Hollander, a classical actor with roles in ‘Gosford Park’ and ‘Pride and Prejudice’ under his belt, might feel a little out of his comfort zone. Iannucci works with a script but likes his actors to muck in and improvise wherever possible, to keep the mood fresh and topical.

‘I feel liberated by being able to improvise, but I feel burdened by the shadow of “The Thick of It”,’ Hollander says, as he sinks into a sofa outside his dressing room. ‘It’s slightly weird coming into a story that’s half been told before. Some days I don’t feel like I’m walking on virgin snow. I’m not playing the same character, but I’m aware of the energy that Chris Langham had in a similar role. And I’m intimidated by the
cleverness of the other performers who have done it before and who are writers as well as actors.’

Foster is a fresh-faced secretary of state for the Department of International Development (DFID) who gives a disastrous appearance on ‘Question Time’ at the start of the film, which positions him in opposition to a brewing war. An even more disastrous attempt at damage limitation inadvertently makes him a ‘hawk’ in the eyes of the US and British governments. This secures his role as a political pawn: his inexperience and idealism make him an ideal plaything for hardened crocodiles like Malcolm. Soon, Simon is in Washington, hob-nobbing with a US army major, played by James Gandolfini, and an ineffectual, canapé-loving British ambassador to the UN (Alex MacQueen, who was the wily, balding Julius Nicholson in ‘The Thick of It’).


Iannucci tells me that he sees ‘In the Loop’ as a cousin of ‘The Thick of It’. The similarities are everywhere, down to the docu-style, handheld camerawork evident on the monitors (it’s the same director of photography) and the anti-‘West Wing’ production design that throws all notions of political glamour out the window. The writing team of Jesse Armstrong (who co-writes ‘Peep Show’), Simon Blackwell, Tony Roche and Iannucci is intact. Each day there’s a writer on set – as well as Iannucci – to offer the cast extra lines and to adapt scenes off the cuff. The script that I read before coming on set crackles with superb one-liners, but it is very long: the idea is that they’ll cut and add scenes as they go along.

I watch a scene between Capaldi and Hollander. Their characters spend ten minutes batting lines that debate the nuances of being ‘on the verge of making a stand’. It’s a masterclass in serio-comic absurdity. Hollander: ‘I’m in the antechamber of statement.’ Capaldi: ‘The PM doesn’t want people on the verge. He doesn’t want vergers.’ When Iannucci calls out ‘Cut!’, co-producer Kevin Loader turns to me: ‘That was very free. That had very little to do with the script after the first three lines.’

Later on, Iannucci recalls the scene. ‘One of the reasons we have this partly improvised style is because the whole thing is about people sort of making things up as they go along. These two characters talk bollocks for about ten minutes, but out of that bollocks there were one or two moments when they really nailed the absurdity of this pathetic position that Simon is adopting. And it feels real as well.’

The looming war is central to ‘In the Loop’. We learn there’s a possible conflict in the Middle East and that Britain and the US might be involved. But beyond that there are no details. Writer Simon Blackwell explains how they deliberately dance around the specifics. ‘The issue of the war becomes somehow anaesthetised; very few people talk about people being killed and the horrors of it. It becomes a theoretical thing.’ That said, everyone I speak to on the set makes it clear that Iraq is in everyone’s mind. Hollander even hints that his character is at least partly inspired by Hilary Benn, who was secretary of state at DFID between 2003 and 2007 and remained in the cabinet during the war in Iraq.

Blackwell considers Hollander’s government minister to be the moral heart of the film: a young man trying to make a stand at DFID but lured into the snake-pit of international diplomacy. ‘Simon’s central dilemma is that he went into politics to do good. By working in international development, he thinks you can make decisions that save or transform lives. But he’s also feeling the pull of power, which he can justify slightly by saying: “I need power to do anything.” Reality comes into play, and he can’t be Bono. He has to be Phil Collins or whoever is the opposite of Bono.’

There’s something intimidating about speaking to Capaldi so soon after hearing him scream with venom (‘Christ on a bendy bus!’) on set. Talk, perhaps inevitably, considering he plays an aggressive communications chief, turns to Alastair Campbell. ‘Obviously he’s an influence. When we started nobody said: This is supposed to be Alastair Campbell, but obviously in the foul-mouthed, cynical spin-doctor category there is only one über-spinner, unless you’re going to be Peter Mandelson, which is much more of an iron fist in a velvet glove.’

Somewhere in the parish of British cinema is a mass grave marked ‘sitcoms that died on the big screen’. So it’s little wonder that when you talk to Iannucci and some of his collaborators they’re keen to distance themselves slightly from the ‘The Thick of It’, which ran on the BBC for one series of six half-hour episodes in 2005 plus a couple of one-off specials in 2007, the latter reflecting the real drama that was Tony Blair’s departure from Downing Street. Iannucci likes to think of ‘In the Loop’ as running parallel to ‘The Thick of It’ rather than continuing where the series left off. ‘It’s not “The Thick of It: The Movie”,’ co-producer Adam Tandy tells me. ‘It’s essentially a new thing, with its own slice of the universe.’ Iannucci develops this line further: ‘It’s implied that the world of “The Thick of It” does exist in the film, but in a separate building.

'Peter [Capaldi] and I have agreed that Malcolm’s opinion about the Ministry of Social Affairs, which was the focus of the TV show, was that it
was just one of 12 of these fuckers he’s got to deal with every day. So he’s always in a rush, he’s always annoyed. With this, it’s more critical. There’s a war on the way. Also, Malcolm has to deal with people in America who he can’t fight and he doesn’t like that.’

Back on set, Capaldi is off again. ‘You sounded like a fucking Nazi Julie Andrews!’ he bellows at Hollander’s red-faced Simon, who has just told a reporter that the government is ‘climbing the mountain of conflict’. Then he spits an even bigger mouthful of bile at Addison’s Toby: ‘Shut up, stem cell.’

Scene over, Kevin Loader, the film’s other co-producer, who was responsible for such British films as ‘Captain Corelli’s Mandolin’ and ‘Enduring Love’, turns to me and laughs at the dialogue we’ve just heard. Loader, who is working with Iannucci for the first time, says there was never any question of toning down the language for the big screen. ‘I don’t think there’ll be an airline version,’ he deadpans. ‘It won’t play between LA and Chicago.’

‘In the Loop’ will open in cinemas next year.
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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 02:16:34 pm »
Good work posting this. Can't wait to see it.
Absolutely loved The Thick of It - a genuinely hilarious satire.
Capaldi is the man.

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 08:53:10 pm »
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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 09:02:42 pm »
Really looking forward to this.

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 09:53:21 pm »
Can't wait for this. The Thick Of It was brilliant, one of the best things on TV for years.

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2009, 01:56:41 pm »
Clip

Trailer

If this is even half as good as the series and specials it'll be the best film out all year. The specials DVD is out around the same time too I think.

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 05:51:25 pm »
I'm really pleased that the whole Langham thing didnt kill it off, cant wait for this film and the return of the series in the autumn.
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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2009, 04:07:31 pm »
So.... D-Day (or should that be F-Day)...

.... in the absence of any football worth watching over the next couple of days this will - and this is the first time I've ever thought this would be the case with a film - be the highlight of my weekend.

I've read/seen/heard nothing but uniformly gushing reviews, but this is to be expected based on the first series (and specials). How could they possibly top it? Take the story to Washington and bring James Gandolfini into the fold.

Iannucci + Tucker + Jamie + Tony Soprano = must-see future classic.

Any other RAWKers planning on seeing it?

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2009, 06:25:25 pm »
I saw this today. It really is fantastic and very funny indeed. It's like a sweary version of Yes Minister.

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2009, 08:46:06 pm »
saw it today, quality movie. absolutely hilarious. Tom Hollander was good in it playing the useless minister Simon Foster. Capaldi is brilliant, and a nice cameo from Coogan as well.
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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2009, 11:04:35 pm »
Reviewed on newsnight now, portaloo and Ian Hislop are on, might be interesting...
"Paranoia is a very comforting state of mind. If you think they're out to get you, it means you think you matter"

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2009, 12:11:13 pm »
Off to watch it tonight. Can't wait.
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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 07:26:14 pm »
Very decent all in all.  The american accents wierded me out for a while, but got used to them by the end.  Cried with laughter on a couple of occassions, namely at Toby's excuse and Simon's participation in the war committee.  Malcolm and Jamie are just fantastic characters.


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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 11:48:00 pm »
"F star star kunt!!!"

I can't for the life of me ever laughing so much at a line, in any film

Overall, thought it was decent enough. Seeing My Girl was a bit odd, though!

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #14 on: July 8, 2009, 05:07:22 am »
The dvdrip is online, lots of linkies......

http://www.oneddl.com/movies/in-the-loop-limited-dvdrip-xvid-dmt/
http://www.scnsrc.net/movies/in-the-loop-limited-dvdrip-xvid-dmt/

Have to say it was fucking brilliant, didnt want it to end. Got to be one of the most quote laden films ever.

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Cant wait for the autumn and the new series of The Thick Of It.
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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #15 on: July 8, 2009, 05:53:35 pm »
"No it won't, it'll be difficult, difficult, lemon difficult".
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« Reply #16 on: March 5, 2010, 04:38:00 pm »
BBC 2 are showing this sunday night at 10.

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« Reply #17 on: March 5, 2010, 05:00:40 pm »
"No it won't, it'll be difficult, difficult, lemon difficult".

ha ha good movie 

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #18 on: March 5, 2010, 05:11:42 pm »
You're like a fucking Nazi Julie Andrews.

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #19 on: March 7, 2010, 07:26:32 pm »
BBC 2 are showing this sunday night at 10

Just spotted this - pleased as punch. Never seen it, from what you lot say I feel I'm in for a treat

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #20 on: March 8, 2010, 12:08:10 am »
hahahaha just watched it now,brilliant!

F star star c*nt!

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #21 on: March 8, 2010, 01:28:21 am »
Shame this wasn't turned into a series, there's great scope there, really enjoyed it.

:P
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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #22 on: March 8, 2010, 02:15:55 am »
:P

I never saw or heard of the 'Thick Of It' when it was on. I know now. Cheers.  8)
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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #23 on: March 8, 2010, 02:29:01 am »
I never saw or heard of the 'Thick Of It' when it was on. I know now. Cheers.  8)
Oh ok :) Its slightly different from In the Loop though, a lot of the same actors but with different names and some in different roles, Tucker is the same though.
"Paranoia is a very comforting state of mind. If you think they're out to get you, it means you think you matter"

Jurgen! What is best in life?

Crush your enemies. See dem driven before you. Hear d'lamentations of der vimmen.

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #24 on: March 8, 2010, 02:34:24 pm »
Great to finally watch it last night. Bought the DVD for the father-in-law for Christmas but never got round to seeing it. I think the TV series works (worked) far better tho I have to say, but it was still a great watch. With the TV series,  you get far more storylines dipping in and out and maybe a bit more meat on the bone with the characters. I also missed Terri Coverley, who got a brief outing in the film of course. A bonus tho was seeing David Rasche again (on the right in the pic) - haven't seen him since the brilliant Sledge Hammer.




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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #25 on: March 8, 2010, 02:39:37 pm »
Haha, Sledge Hammer. Class. Forgot all about that. Will have to get that on DVD.

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« Reply #26 on: March 8, 2010, 03:00:30 pm »
Haha, Sledge Hammer. Class. Forgot all about that. Will have to get that on DVD.

Just been enjoying a bit of Sledge on YouTube. Haven't seen it for donkeys years... used to be on late at night I seem to remember, after midnight, but it was a must see programme.

A classic moment:

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #27 on: March 8, 2010, 03:15:06 pm »
Jesus, Sledgehammer?! Now there's a blast from the past.

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2010, 03:17:28 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2010, 10:49:15 pm »
Simon Foster: So what are we going back to, apart from a nice cup of tea and some knife crime?
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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2010, 11:01:44 pm »
I saw Chris Addison today. So there you go.

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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2010, 05:44:38 pm »
F, star, star, c*nt!

Brilliance! Best English language film in 09/10.

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2011, 11:42:36 pm »
On BBC2 now, love it.
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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2011, 08:18:41 am »
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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2011, 08:37:49 am »
"I would have blacked-up because it is radio, nobody would have known"

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Re: The Thick of it film - In the Loop
« Reply #35 on: December 9, 2011, 01:46:24 am »
"You may have heard him say that, but he did not say that, and that is a fact."