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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1000 on: March 4, 2012, 11:14:10 pm »
our form dropped off when lucas was injured. bring lucas back and get another striker in we will be fine.

                   
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1001 on: March 4, 2012, 11:17:05 pm »
our form dropped off when lucas was injured. bring lucas back and get another striker in we will be fine.

                 

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1002 on: March 4, 2012, 11:18:57 pm »
our form dropped off when lucas was injured. bring lucas back and get another striker in we will be fine.

                 

So you'd be happy with adam and downing still in our first 11 next season?

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1003 on: March 4, 2012, 11:19:11 pm »
Only way Shelvey is superior to Henderson is he saves money not buying 5 tonne of hair products.

Henderson is in the team because he has undoubted potential and good PL experience, anybody who can't see that after yesterdays performance need to go and rewatch the match.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1004 on: March 4, 2012, 11:20:11 pm »
Exactly we have some posters saying we are playing better football now then the end of last season, even to the point that we it was due to good fortune that we performed so well and not do to with concise football, running off the ball and midfielders running into the box to score,
I am all for positive thinking but this has been one of the poorest EPL seasons in terms of quality for years all the teams above us have been poor (just look at the abject failure of English teams in the CL) if we had played like we had at the end of last year we would be competing for a top 4 place at least - we should of concentrated on improving that team and not dismantling it, now we are left with a team which is not top 4 even in this poor league.
We need more then 1 or 2 players imo for our first team, I would say 4 players (striker, CM and 2 wingers) are needed. That would leave alot of summers sigings like Downing and Carroll on the subs bench (prob the most expensive in the world let alone EPL)
take out cm and i agree with you. dm backup maybe. Carroll is a bit of a sticking point because he is certainly playing better, and he could become even better he is very young. I'd personally give him a run of games in the prem now that we can't get fourth and see how he does. If he tanks oh well, if he has a stormer maybe a miracle happens.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1005 on: March 4, 2012, 11:21:13 pm »
So you'd be happy with adam and downing still in our first 11 next season?
if downing was playing like he has in the last three games yea no problem, and then adam would be out with lucas coming in, he'd be a squad player.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1006 on: March 4, 2012, 11:21:43 pm »
No, we won't.
good argument, i partically liked the bits with the facts, and the counterargument.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1007 on: March 4, 2012, 11:27:01 pm »
if downing was playing like he has in the last three games yea no problem, and then adam would be out with lucas coming in, he'd be a squad player.

Ok but you think one striker would make everything ok and gets us into 4th? I don't think it would, we need to improve other areas too.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1008 on: March 4, 2012, 11:28:11 pm »
Comparing a young guy who has had cameo apperances and done a couple of good things and a couple of bad with a guy who is playing regular 90 minutes and having some good games and some bad. The RAWK way. Obviously the guy who isn't playing can be extrapolated into a world class player.
Henderson and Shelvey are both great talents, and very different. But right now there is a reason Henderson plays regular for us and Shelvey doesn't. There is a reason that Henderson is the captain and first name for the U21 and Shelvey is an occasional sub. They are on different points in their career development.
People talk as if Shelvey has scored and created a bunch of goals for us every time he has come on. He hasn't. He has shown confidence and done things that sometimes pay off and sometimes don't. He has often come on in games that are already won. His instructions probably amount to "have fun and try and cause them trouble."
Henderson is starting games, with a clear game plan and set of instructions and a much more complicated role, sometimes in a position that doesn't suit him.
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Agree with this, although Shelvey will end up the better player i feel.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1009 on: March 4, 2012, 11:32:53 pm »
Ok but you think one striker would make everything ok and gets us into 4th? I don't think it would, we need to improve other areas too.
well we need back up wingers, but lucas and a good striker would have made us fourth this year i believe. So if other teams stay stagnant and we do that then yea. I'd love us to have a mata or nani but that isn't going to happen. Otherwise we pick up wingers at 24 and let them develop. Also whoever wins the hazard sweepstakes is a big deal this summer
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1010 on: March 4, 2012, 11:38:19 pm »
well we need back up wingers, but lucas and a good striker would have made us fourth this year i believe. So if other teams stay stagnant and we do that then yea. I'd love us to have a mata or nani but that isn't going to happen. Otherwise we pick up wingers at 24 and let them develop. Also whoever wins the hazard sweepstakes is a big deal this summer

We don't just need "back up wingers". It's clear we need a top quality winger(s), and have done for the better part of 15 or so years. Downing is not the solution, he is a squad player at best.

The thing that pisses me off about all this, is the opportunity cost of all our signings. The 20 million spent on Downing, could have got a top quality winger, if our scouts did what they were paid to do.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1011 on: March 4, 2012, 11:38:28 pm »
take out cm and i agree with you. dm backup maybe. Carroll is a bit of a sticking point because he is certainly playing better, and he could become even better he is very young. I'd personally give him a run of games in the prem now that we can't get fourth and see how he does. If he tanks oh well, if he has a stormer maybe a miracle happens.

Is he? Is he really? He's 23. Not that young is it? For me, he's got to start showing much more pretty soon. Not really on the topic of the thread, but Suarez is only two years older than him for Christ's sake.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1012 on: March 4, 2012, 11:39:21 pm »
Your You're on crack.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1013 on: March 4, 2012, 11:41:08 pm »
We don't just need "back up wingers". It's clear we need a top quality winger(s), and have done for the better part of 15 or so years. Downing is not the solution, he is a squad player at best.

The thing that pisses me off about all this, is the opportunity cost of all our signings. The 20 million spent on Downing, could have got a top quality winger, if our scouts did what they were paid to do.

Absolutely does my fucking head in, to be honest. We spent £60m on Downing, Carroll and Adam. Imagine what we could've got for that money. Actually don't, because it'll make you angry.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1014 on: March 4, 2012, 11:42:42 pm »
Absolutely does my fucking head in, to be honest. We spent £60m on Downing, Carroll and Adam. Imagine what we could've got for that money. Actually don't, because it'll make you angry.

To be fair, Adam was hardly that expensive. Downing and Carroll have been disasters though.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1015 on: March 4, 2012, 11:47:38 pm »
At least three: right winger, left winger and a striker who knows how to put the ball into the net.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1016 on: March 4, 2012, 11:47:58 pm »
We are under performing with the players already at our disposal so the first objective is for the manager to get the side to run into a bit of touch. Our finishing has been abysmal this year and when you look at last year when we did score a few often it was Meirelles and on occasion Maxi that got some goals one isn't here and the other isn't playing much. Kuyt also looked better up top with Luis last season. We need to get some natural finishers and some width.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1017 on: March 4, 2012, 11:56:34 pm »
This summer is going to be fun on here when we replace Maxi and Kuyt with Jarvis and Sinclair for a combined fee of over £20m :lmao

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1018 on: March 5, 2012, 12:00:01 am »
Fuck me how many variations on that tawdry theme are we going to have to suffer through before someone screams shut the fuck up at the top of their lungs?

Mention Carroll's price as well. Always a fucking riot that one 'n' all.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1019 on: March 5, 2012, 12:00:19 am »
This summer is going to be fun on here when we replace Maxi and Kuyt with Jarvis and Sinclair for a combined fee of over £20m :lmao

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1020 on: March 5, 2012, 12:01:00 am »
good argument, i partically liked the bits with the facts, and the counterargument.

It's so obvious we need a right sided player and another CM (both quality). Adam isn't first team player and is never gonna be. And you say Lucas will come in for Adam but you fail to understand they're totally different players. For the sake of discussion let's say he will. With Stevie we're never gonna get a full season out of him, unfortunately, so it automatically makes Adam first team player for half a season, maybe even more.

Then if you think we have enough quality on the wings... it's just insane. Downing, for all his resurgence in recent, games isn't going to the type of winger we need, one to take on full backs, cut in and have a pop himself. Then there's the right-wing problem. A lot of games we have played a young CM there which shows how poor we are in that position. Kuyt is probably going to be moved in the summer as is Maxi and even if he isn't, he's not going to be the superman who runs 2-3miles more than the others.

Saying we just need a striker in the summer is utter bullshit imo.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1021 on: March 5, 2012, 12:02:09 am »
Some of you need to quit feeling sorry for yourselves. Fuck sakes man, we have won a trophy for the first time in 6 whole freakin years and have a decent chance to win our 2nd. Plus we just turned over an average squad and now have a solid base to build upon.

Fucking mental some of you are.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1022 on: March 5, 2012, 12:03:47 am »
This is a train-wreck of a thread. Dear God close it.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1023 on: March 5, 2012, 12:04:57 am »
take out cm and i agree with you. dm backup maybe. Carroll is a bit of a sticking point because he is certainly playing better, and he could become even better he is very young. I'd personally give him a run of games in the prem now that we can't get fourth and see how he does. If he tanks oh well, if he has a stormer maybe a miracle happens.

So you're happy with our CMs this season?

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1024 on: March 5, 2012, 12:09:43 am »
Comolli only makes these statements so he, Kenny and the rest of the lads can huddle round a big screen sipping from a glass of whiskey while reading RAWK. Gotta be better than McIntyre's Comedy Roadshow.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1025 on: March 5, 2012, 12:09:48 am »
Some of you need to quit feeling sorry for yourselves. Fuck sakes man, we have won a trophy for the first time in 6 whole freakin years and have a decent chance to win our 2nd. Plus we just turned over an average squad and now have a solid base to build upon.

Fucking mental some of you are.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1026 on: March 5, 2012, 12:25:07 am »
Fuck buying just British players, or Dutch players, or French players, or German, or Kazakh, or (insert name of any country here).

Just buy players that are good enough and fit to wear the shirt. So what if they're not British? And can we also stop with this "potential" nonsense? We can't afford to buy young and highly over-priced players and wait years for them to develop. We need proven quality now. Even Arsenal are slowly beginning to find that out.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1027 on: March 5, 2012, 03:14:02 am »
So you'd be happy with adam and downing still in our first 11 next season?

and you think they won“t be?

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1028 on: March 5, 2012, 03:28:32 am »
So you're happy with our CMs this season?

Technically, a certain Italian CM is still on our books....

Anybody keeping track on the number of games he has played??? 

Would love to have him back, it'll be worth it just to see a part of RAWK having their own nuclear meltdown:)

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1029 on: March 5, 2012, 04:32:06 am »
Get shot of Carroll and Adam, get a world class midfielder and......... bring Torres home.
Freaking hell,Adam for 7m should go,and Downing 20m and Henderson 16m shouldnt.Typical hatred.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1030 on: March 5, 2012, 04:37:04 am »
If we had a £15-20m budget in the summer for a number 9, i think Torres is the best we could get.


If the service and assists are there, I'm convinced that a happy Torres would bury the chances we give him.
Would totally agree with you there.Happen or not happen.15m.Massive wage cut..Cant think that it would be a problem,considering the fact that he wont in all probability make the Euros.
That,plus a world class CAM/RW would be enough.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1031 on: March 5, 2012, 04:47:19 am »
Technically, a certain Italian CM is still on our books....

Anybody keeping track on the number of games he has played??? 

Would love to have him back, it'll be worth it just to see a part of RAWK having their own nuclear meltdown:)

About a week ago it was 5 more games to make the move permanent. Not sure if he has played since then.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1032 on: March 5, 2012, 05:48:22 am »
our form dropped off when lucas was injured. bring lucas back and get another striker in we will be fine.


We did regress after the Lucas injury and that is because we do not have an adequate replacement; Spearing will never be good enough.

Our midfield is far too weak, Stevie is only a bit part player now, Adam is not world class in any way, shape or form; we need to sign a replacement for Lucas and a creative/marauding midfielder as well.

Right wing is an eternal problem that needs to be resolved.

We also lack penetration through the middle of the park in the shape of defense splitting passes or dribbles ala Benayoun.

Finally, we need a poacher.

Considering what Comolli said about only a couple of adjustments I am sure we will not be working on all I mentioned but lets face it, 30 goals so far this season is not a coincidence - it is the result of a series of factors.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1033 on: March 5, 2012, 05:54:04 am »
our form dropped off when lucas was injured. bring lucas back and get another striker in we will be fine.

                   


We need more then that. What if Lucas gets injured again? Or what if that serious injury he had means we'll never see the best of Lucas?

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1034 on: March 5, 2012, 05:55:47 am »
Ok but you think one striker would make everything ok and gets us into 4th? I don't think it would, we need to improve other areas too.

If we had a striker putting in a quarter of the balls that have fizzed through the six yard box, or hit the post we'd be in forth.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1035 on: March 5, 2012, 05:56:59 am »
I mean that you need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Shelvey is, right now, a better player than Henderson.  There's no question about that.  Why we insist with Henderson when 95% of his career with us he's been an anonymous passenger is beyond me.  Why we bought him in the first place, is beyond me.  Why we paid so much for him, is beyond me.  It isn't his fault he's here.  But FFS, take some pressure off the kid and let him come off the bench, and let him play in cup matches.  He is like a chicken with his head cut off most of the time.  Shelvey is younger, more confident, more skilled, and showed against Villa a few matches back why HE should be starting and Henderson should be on the bench. 

Instead, we bump Shelvey off to Blackpool, then bring him back just to sit the bench. 

Shelvey, Sterling, Wisdom, even Coady could all be stars for us in the future.  I don't think Henderson will be.  It doesn't mean sell him or slag him off or any of that business, but at the same time don't be ridiculous and make out like he's something he's not.

This is just so wrong I don't even know where to begin. You are the type of fan who will be calling for Shelvey to start one week and calling his career over the next week after a poor game. Shelvey has a lot of potential but right now Henderson is a superior player to him.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1036 on: March 5, 2012, 06:03:11 am »
Only 2 or 3 adjustments may not be such a bad thing if they are really amazing, as in a world class striker, midfielder and winger.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1037 on: March 5, 2012, 06:06:38 am »
Only 2 or 3 adjustments may not be such a bad thing if they are really amazing, as in a world class striker, midfielder and winger.

Agreed. This is what we have to do.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1038 on: March 5, 2012, 06:10:18 am »
If people think a poacher kind of striker is all we need to start scoring freely again then you are sorely mistaken. We need a super striker in the mold of Torres or Van Persie and a goal scoring winger with guile.

I'm afraid that we'll end up with Sinclair and Bent and pay  20m for Sinclair and 30m for Bent.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1039 on: March 5, 2012, 06:14:27 am »
If people think a poacher kind of striker is all we need to start scoring freely again then you are sorely mistaken. We need a super striker in the mold of Torres or Van Persie and a goal scoring winger with guile.

I'm afraid that we'll end up with Sinclair and Bent and pay  20m for Sinclair and 30m for Bent.

Name 5 wingers you'd want here
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