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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #640 on: March 5, 2015, 02:28:38 pm »
It aired yesterday. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05534p0/storyville-20142015-19-indias-daughter
Not sure I can bring myself to watch it. Anyone seen it?


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/04/indias-daughter-bbc-delhi-rape-documentary-uk-india-ban


Fuck, fuck. So angry. About 20 minutes in, wish I didn't bother. WTF. Stupefying horror. The fucking defence lawyers. Feel sick.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #641 on: March 5, 2015, 02:40:41 pm »
It aired yesterday. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05534p0/storyville-20142015-19-indias-daughter
Not sure I can bring myself to watch it. Anyone seen it?


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/04/indias-daughter-bbc-delhi-rape-documentary-uk-india-ban


I felt the same... almost watched it last night but really wasn't in the mood for anything that heavy.
Will watch at some point.

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #642 on: March 5, 2015, 02:42:46 pm »
Watched a few seasons. I was seriously hooked for a good while but they get repetitive. I also can't stand the structure with the introduction. They basically spoil everything in the first minute: had to turn away and put it on mute hoping that I don't look back to soon.

I don't agree with the beginning spoiling it, these shows focus on the very detailed investigation that is involved in Air disasters. We often know how a plane crashed but the specifics sometimes take years to work out. I enjoy watching that process though will agree that the show can be inconsistent with how much time it dedicates to reenacting the event and actually investigating it.

I thought that Touching the Void was about what happens when your finger goes through the toilet paper.

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #643 on: March 5, 2015, 07:46:47 pm »
Not sure I can stomach it. Will probably give it a go.

Do watch it.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #644 on: March 5, 2015, 08:36:24 pm »
Do watch it.
I did, see re-edit. Still recovering. Ian Dale had a decent discussion on it, had the producer on. A lot of issues raised. But frankly just the sheer horror and brutality of it has left me numb for now. Maybe in a few days, I can talk about the broader issues raised.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #645 on: March 5, 2015, 08:41:37 pm »
What shocked me more than the rapists' views were that of the lawyers.

I mean what the fuck!
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #646 on: March 5, 2015, 09:40:13 pm »
What shocked me more than the rapists' views were that of the lawyers.

I mean what the fuck!
Echoing the rapist's views. And herein lies the problem. The she was 'asking for it' argument. The parents were so dignified.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #647 on: March 5, 2015, 10:49:46 pm »
India's Daughter is here on youtube for those that want to watch it but don't have Iplayer access

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W6WrShqKGE&t=24
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #648 on: March 6, 2015, 05:58:55 am »
It's heart-wrenching. I have no time for remorseless rapists and idiotic defense lawyers, but I really really could not watch the girl's parents as they reminisce. More oxygen to the good souls. A lot of power to them to live the rest of their lives in memory of their beautiful daughter, someone they raised so well as is apparent in the film.

On India itself, the documentary should in no way represent the entire demographic, like how no single incident anywhere else should be used to paint a large section of the population. No sane, thinking Indian would have the gall to blame Jyoti for what happened to her. That being said, a large proportion of Indians needs to change their mentality towards women through their upbringing, if violence and crime against them have to be curbed. Way too much emphasis is placed on the chastity of "Indian culture", an oft-used phrase that simply confines women to a set of made up norms. The thought that a propensity to engage in activities that conform to "Western culture" leads to deterioration of one's values is uneducated and detrimental to the growth of a country with such fantastic potential. India cannot become what it can, without equal participation of women everywhere. The lady chief justice in the video rightly points towards education as a tool to eradicate the pervasive misogyny, that is rooted deeper than we would like to admit in our society.

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #649 on: March 6, 2015, 10:33:22 am »
I don't agree with the beginning spoiling it, these shows focus on the very detailed investigation that is involved in Air disasters. We often know how a plane crashed but the specifics sometimes take years to work out. I enjoy watching that process though will agree that the show can be inconsistent with how much time it dedicates to reenacting the event and actually investigating it.

Well, that difference is probably due to the scope of the investigation and how interesting it is vis-à-vis the actual incident. I don't see a problem with that.

The introduction sequence however is a cheap tool to lure viewers in with dramatic spectacle. In the first minute I will already know if it was a mid-air explosion or a ditch where most people made it. I don't want to know that and it spoils most of the program.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #650 on: March 6, 2015, 10:36:37 am »
It might have been mentioned already but watched this documentary on bottled water last night. If you're buying water in a bottle you should really see this. It's on Netflix at the moment. http://youtu.be/72MCumz5lq4
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #651 on: March 6, 2015, 06:22:01 pm »
Well, that difference is probably due to the scope of the investigation and how interesting it is vis-à-vis the actual incident. I don't see a problem with that.

The introduction sequence however is a cheap tool to lure viewers in with dramatic spectacle. In the first minute I will already know if it was a mid-air explosion or a ditch where most people made it. I don't want to know that and it spoils most of the program.

That's the point of the show. There is a crash which they investigate.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #652 on: March 6, 2015, 06:34:14 pm »
Bitter Lake was quite something. Deliberately avoided this thread before I had chance to see. Fallen in love with that Burial track used (Come Down To Us). Superb piece of film making even though one could (somewhat churlishly) highlight how it could have gone even further on the complexity of the situation there.

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #653 on: March 6, 2015, 09:29:38 pm »
It might have been mentioned already but watched this documentary on bottled water last night. If you're buying water in a bottle you should really see this. It's on Netflix at the moment. http://youtu.be/72MCumz5lq4


Man... I LOVE water, it's my favourite drink.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
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« Reply #655 on: March 14, 2015, 08:38:07 pm »
Just a quick thank you lads'n lasses. Don't have enough time to follow up on things such as these - so getting a refill on what to watch in here is most appreciated. Thanks.

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« Reply #656 on: March 15, 2015, 11:44:55 pm »
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #657 on: March 17, 2015, 10:29:42 am »
Michael Sheen's Valleys Rebellion
Actor Michael Sheen explores the reasons why there is so much political disillusionment in Wales today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0547tsj/michael-sheens-valleys-rebellion

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Cheers, will have to try and catch that.

And I thought India's Daughter was a necessary and vital documentary. Needs to be seen.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #658 on: March 17, 2015, 11:20:03 am »
Came across the World At War on BBC2 last night,I think it was shown pretty late because it was the episode on genocide.Some really graphic images and Interviews but a really incredible programme.I remember watching these a few years ago,but just sporadically.I checked the BBC Iplayer website and it seems the complete collection is on there,think its 20 something episodes.

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #659 on: March 17, 2015, 07:11:08 pm »
Michael Sheen's Valleys Rebellion
Actor Michael Sheen explores the reasons why there is so much political disillusionment in Wales today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0547tsj/michael-sheens-valleys-rebellion

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Excellent. Mate at work who is from Powys told me about it after I flagged up Michael Sheen's ode to the NHS. You know that mural of the Chartist march would have been protected if it was of the rich or royalty.
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« Reply #660 on: March 17, 2015, 09:05:48 pm »
Yeah, I was fucking amazed they just knocked it down with no questions asked. Unbelievable. It's also a part of history that I never even knew about. Mental, really. I keep meaning to head down to Powys to see the castle and their collection of stolen goods from India (see the Guardian's article on the East India Company), so when I make it, I'll deffo be looking up some of the Chartist history too.
He told me that the marchers from Powys, only got as far as the pub featured in the documentary. They got pissed and missed the massacre in Newport.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #661 on: March 17, 2015, 10:29:18 pm »
Watched 'Champs' 2015 the other night, enjoyed it  8) 
A documentary on boxing greats Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield and Bernard Hopkins examines their lives in and out of the ring

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« Reply #662 on: March 17, 2015, 11:07:14 pm »
For a documentry which educates as much as humors the audience you should try Bill Mahers Religulous. (sorry if this has been mentioned before)

The full documentry is here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFspMFYntME

Bill Maher a famous 'liberal' (the American term for socialist) political comedian who is famous for his weekly political talk show on HBO, in Religulous - Bill tries to understand what makes people follow religion this is especially intriguing for him as he is staunch atheist who thinks alot of religions cause as much harm as they do good.

But this isn't some bible bashing documentary, no anyone that watches his TV show knows Bill has a wicked sense of humor and is happy to pick a verbal fight in topics he believes in, so seeing him go up against 'sometimes' fanatical worshipers is fantastically entertaining.

In fact the only time he isn't butting heads is the must see scene when he is Amsterdam smoking a joints with a member of a Dutch christian marijuana group - superb.

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #663 on: March 18, 2015, 02:09:41 am »
Just finished HBO ...The Jinx..the life and deaths of Robert Durth.....spot on doc...jaw dropper.

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #664 on: March 23, 2015, 09:37:04 pm »
Just finished HBO ...The Jinx..the life and deaths of Robert Durth.....spot on doc...jaw dropper.

Thanks... decided to D/L all 6 episodes and watched all in one sitting... yes it was good.  8)
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« Reply #665 on: March 24, 2015, 12:56:05 am »
I'm not sure how I feel about The Jinx in the end.

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The story itself was not particularly remarkable, except in that the antagonist happened to be a very rich man whose vast resources protected him from probably life imprisonment if not the chair. A lot of questions have been asked about the circumstances of the last scene revelation and Durst's subsequent arrest, and I wonder what the documentary would have looked like if they didn't get that audio recording at the end. Certainly in the last couple of episodes, Jarecki and team suddenly foregrounded themselves as major characters in the story, which I thought was pretty cheap. And then there are the criticisms about the use of reenactments, including the Susan Berman shooting, which also gave the whole thing a rather icky, B-grade Thursday afternoon docudrama kind of feel. Did Jarecki have HBO's backing for this before or after he got the toilet seat revelation at the end?

I watched the series after learning about Durst's arrest, but before knowing a great deal about his story, beyond that he was suspected of killing his wife, and Andrew Jarecki made a story about it starring Ryan Gosling and Kirsten Dunst. I think I went into it with a certain amount of expectation for a juicy story about a very strange scion of a very wealthy family who was perhaps the billionaire version of Norman Bates - dressed up as his mum and making dresses from the skin of his victims.

What we got, was a very broad strokes story about a somewhat socially awkward, introverted man who had some less than unusual conflicts with his family, the kind you'd expect of an older son who was overlooked in looking after the family business, but otherwise was rather boring. I know this was in part Jarecki's intention, because he wanted to tell a story that humanised the monster, but I feel like he didn't really achieve what he was setting out to do. If anything, Durst's 'human' story was so basic that I wonder if he spoke a word of truth throughout the whole interview. I didn't feel like I understood Durst any better than I would have, had I just read the newspaper clippings around the three deaths.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #666 on: March 24, 2015, 02:16:44 am »
I enjoyed it a lot
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Very very eerie ending

Kinda with you on a lot of that, I guess more will come out perhaps once he's sent down

Definitely agree about the filmmakers becoming front and centre - I thought that from the beginning of the interviews - the 'noddys' or shots of the interviewer seemed a bit hammed up (as if he was starring in his own movie - which he kinda was)

It looked open and shut from the start but unlike say - The friedmans or death on a staircase, my mind wasn't really switched

Those weird noises he was making and when he put his head in his hands was well weird though

Made me think about the Foxcatcher guy too a bit
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #667 on: March 24, 2015, 04:21:51 am »
Please no spoiler for The Jinx. mates at work say it is better then Serial, and you have to avoid reading about it etc. Might be an idea to create a separate thread with spoiler tags if people want to discuss the show. Cheers  :wave
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« Reply #668 on: March 24, 2015, 04:25:44 am »

You might wanna spoiler the part that's not in spoilers mate.
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« Reply #669 on: March 24, 2015, 05:57:40 pm »
Thought the jinx was gripping from start to finish. Would recommend it to just about anyone.
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« Reply #670 on: March 27, 2015, 11:00:45 pm »
Tales of the Grim Sleeper – Nick Broomfield’s salutary serial-killer documentary


This extremely depressing documentary about serial murder in impoverished South Central LA argues powerfully that murder suspect Lonnie Franklin was able to kill countless women over a period of decades because the LAPD had no interest in protecting his victims (many thought that the police themselves were responsible). Reverting to the faux-naif boom mike-bearing persona of yore, Nick Broomfield takes us on a ramshackle tour of the neighbourhood in which the so-called Grim Sleeper operated, unearthing several survivors of whom the police appeared unaware even as they prepared for Franklin’s forthcoming trial. Their voices are powerful and appalling, and it is to Broomfield’s credit that they are heard here. Crime scene photos strike a callous note, even with the faces of victims demurely covered.



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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #671 on: March 28, 2015, 01:16:59 am »
So i'm watching The Jinx (Ep1):

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I'm not sure if it is something to do with previous posts, saying to "spoiler it"; I haven't ready any of them, but my nose is twitching.

Is this a Blagumentary or what?
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« Reply #673 on: April 6, 2015, 10:33:42 am »
Just finished The Staircase.

Great stuff. Just do not understand how they reached the verdict they did though. Would love someone to fucking explain it to me!
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« Reply #674 on: April 7, 2015, 02:39:56 pm »
Fucking hell, the jinx was unbelievable.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #675 on: April 9, 2015, 12:42:49 pm »
Echo the comments on The Jinx. Very fascinating watch.

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #676 on: April 10, 2015, 11:20:42 pm »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05prq82


Howard Jacobson explains why he dislikes the narcissism of the selfie.
"It's always possible that there's some Rembrandt of the selfie out there, using his 'phone to investigate the ravages of age, the incursions of melancholy, and even the psychology of self-obession itself, but commonly the selfie performs a less self-critical function, putting the self at the centre of everything we see, marking the landscape with our faces, as though the only possible interest of the outside world is that we're in it."

Heard this on the way in. Couldn't agree more. Them selfie sticks need to be shoved up where the sun don't shine.
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #677 on: April 11, 2015, 12:47:56 am »
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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #678 on: April 11, 2015, 01:02:41 am »
An Idiot's Guide to Politics: young adults disengaged from politics.BBC Documentary 2015

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Re: Awesome documentaries thread
« Reply #679 on: April 17, 2015, 02:14:37 pm »
This doco is coming out soon, looks awesome.

The Soccer Ultras On The Frontlines Of Turkey's Protest Movement.

Istanbul United - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulIC08OzEmM

EDIT - apparently this is already out, if anyone know where I can view the full version please let me know!
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