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Re: Rafa's Euro 2008 Column - Translations by ASF!
« Reply #80 on: June 15, 2008, 03:23:10 pm »
I'll whisper this, just think what Rafa could do with that Spain team

I was thinking that yesterday as well, you're not alone.
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« Reply #81 on: June 15, 2008, 03:47:20 pm »
Your translations are very good ASF, I know how hard translating can be. Cheers again.
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« Reply #82 on: June 15, 2008, 11:40:26 pm »
First objective accomplished



Spain are through to the quarterfinals.  There was suspense until the very end but Villa’s goal earned Spain a just victory.  To the points, we deserved to win the match against Sweden yesterday and seal, at the same time, a place in the next round.  I had already discussed on prior entries the importance of winning the first match.  At the time, I said how important it was for every team to avoid defeat, but now, increasingly, we’re seeing how determining it is to win the first two matches.

If you’ve already qualified for the next round after two matches, which is the case for Portugal, Croatia, Holland and now Spain, you have a very valuable advantage.  For two main reasons.  First, because you can change players – I don’t want to use the famous word ‘rotation’-, which will allow you to rest some players after a very long season, first with their clubs and now with the national team, and will allow other players to participate, gain match-fitness and to feel an active and important part of the squad.  And then, as a consequence, you will improve the group dynamics, the cohesion and team concept, something that, for the rest of the tournament, could prove to be key.

Regarding the issue between Luis and Torres, I still feel that it was blown out of proportion, fortunately we can now say that it was left at nothing.  Fernando admitted immediately his possible fault and, after some time and consideration by Luis, everything was sorted.  The fact that Torres started the match yesterday it’s the best indication that everything is fine and we can focus on the action on the pitch and not on these little incidents.

Another aspect to consider is the makeup of the calendar and possible future matchups.  I didn’t like it from the start because I saw that the teams were divided into two groups that would not face each other until the end.  And the fact that Holland could benefit, in theory, if they don’t earn any points against Romania, and that doesn’t seem right to me.

Back to the match against Sweden, ‘good is that, which ends up well’.  Spain went into the match with the same starting XI and the same style of play as in the first match.  We had to keep possession of the ball, the fullbacks had to give support in attack in order to add width and the wingers cutting in to create a number advantage in the middle.  With this idea, we had control of the game, although we barely managed any chances.  After the opportunistic and excellent goal by Fernando, after a corner-kick, the second shot on goal did not arrive, curiously enough, as a result of an elaborate possession.  On the contrary, it was a long ball from Sergio(Ramos) and Villa had a shot off a ‘second ball’.  From there on, Sweden took control and that’s when they leveled the score.  Only at the end of this stretch did we create any danger on a play which ended with a claim for a penalty.

After half-time, the story was similar.  Spain had at one point between 65 and 70% of the possession.  There were some clear chances, but that superiority was still not being productive and you had the feeling that Spain was going to have a very tough time to score the second goal.  Nonetheless, it was the long-ball once again which proved fruitful right before the end of the match. Villa showed once again his great skill as a goal-scorer and was implacable.  We must conclude, as a result, that the theory that Spain must depend on a short-passing game of many touches is not necessarily an obligation.  It is true that our national team should have a well defined style of play but at the same time it should be open to other alternatives that, facts in hand, can prove effective.  In conclusion, we should all agree that Spain’s balance must be a positive one.

http://www.elmundo.es/eurocopa/2008/2008/06/14/columna_rafa_benitez/1213472584.html


ASF, did you translate for TIA, only they have it too.....
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Re: Rafa's Euro 2008 Column - Translations by ASF!
« Reply #83 on: June 16, 2008, 03:39:41 am »

ASF, did you translate for TIA, only they have it too.....


Yes, I was asked by an editor for TIA if he could post the Rafa blogs on there, he also posts on here on RAWK, so it's all good.  Thanks for the heads up though.

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« Reply #84 on: June 16, 2008, 01:44:34 pm »
‘good is that, which ends up well’

All's well that ends well??
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« Reply #85 on: June 16, 2008, 01:53:28 pm »
‘good is that, which ends up well’

All's well that ends well??

Yes!!! Thank you, i couldn't remember the right words  :-[

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« Reply #86 on: June 16, 2008, 01:55:44 pm »
ASF thanks so much for translating mate its miles better than the online automated nonesense, nice one.
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« Reply #87 on: June 16, 2008, 02:09:14 pm »
As he always says the keyword is balance-balance between attack and defense,ability to adapt playing style during a match.

Great post. The bit in bold is paramount to Rafa'a teams, IMO.

Once he nails that we will be a force in every competition we enter. ;)
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Re: Rafa's Euro 2008 Column - Translations by ASF!
« Reply #88 on: June 16, 2008, 02:09:31 pm »
Thanks ASF, good read overall and well done on the translations.

As for Rafa, its a bit off topic but I guess we can see why Rafa would never sign someone like Queresma.  He is a skill player but not a cutting edge player.

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« Reply #89 on: June 16, 2008, 02:14:23 pm »
Thanks ASF - always good to read Rafa's thoughts. Just hope we manage to sign the implacable Villa.

Keep 'em coming!

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« Reply #90 on: June 16, 2008, 02:24:38 pm »
We are really lucky to have him and its really nice to think that he is still here because of the support shown by us during the dark hours.We can all thank Rushian for that.

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« Reply #91 on: June 18, 2008, 12:13:34 am »
Italy won’t make it easy



Italy will be Spain’s opponent in the quarterfinals.  You could argue about aesthetics when it comes to their playing style, but what one could never dispute is their effectiveness.  They play to win and that they do frequently.  They are very professional and have players with quality and experience.  A great goalkeeper, balance in midfield, order, a reference player up front and work-rate, plenty of work-rate.  Spain are very confident and they are capable of beating Italy but it won’t be an easy task.

Before that, the first quarterfinal match will be played by Portugal and Germany.  I get the feeling that out of this duel, in normal conditions, will surface one of the finalists.  If Croatia doesn’t prevent it – because, beforehand, they’re the favourites in their match against Turkey by virtue of their impressive showing so far-, whoever comes out victorious in that Portugal-Germany will have a very good possibility of reaching the final because of experience and potential.  The fact that the Portuguese outfit were better than the Turks and the Croatians were superior to the Germans would make you think that those two were the actual favourites.  Nevertheless, let’s not forget that we’re talking about football and, like Petr Cech could assure you after his match against Turkey, it’s not over until the ref blows the full-time whistle.

The second matchup in the quarterfinals will square up in Vienna the strengths of Croatia and Turkey.  Beforehand, like I already said, we would have to bet on the Croatians.  Because of their good performance in this tourney and, to some extent, the social vindication that encompasses their special nationalist sentiment.  Experience has shown me that there are some countries whose players feel more intensely, if possible, what it means to defend a country’s flag even beyond the field of sports.

The third game in the calendar is yet to be determined until we know the name of one of the participants.  Holland, who qualified brilliantly and in an uncontested manner, will be favourites, whether they play Sweden or Russia.  Neither of the two seems like a serious threat for the potent Dutch team, yet we should once again remember that, in football, nothing is written until the epilogue.

I don’t want to pass up the opportunity today to mention, very quickly, the match that will be played on Wednesday between Spain and Greece.  If everything goes according to prediction, Pepe Reina, Alvaro Arbeloa and Xabi Alonso will all be part of the starting eleven managed by Luis Aragones.  For me, as their manager and for our club Liverpool FC, this is an honour and a great satisfaction.  They know that ‘our supporters’ will be unconditionally with them and, as a result, with Spain.

Another good piece of news in this Euro Cup is the confirmation of the good level of the Spanish referees, supported by the excellent performances of  Manuel Enrique Mejuto and his assistants, showing good criteria and authority.  And most importantly for me, and something that shows their good performance, is that, after many minutes of play, I hadn’t even realized who the referee was in both of the matches he officiated, which says a lot in his favour.

Good luck against Greece for the Spanish national team, and I wish Luis Aragones’s players a good match.  And to Pepe, if possible, a new ‘clean sheet’.

http://www.elmundo.es/eurocopa/2008/2008/06/18/columna_rafa_benitez/1213740551.html
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« Reply #92 on: June 18, 2008, 12:32:43 am »
Another good read. Thanks for the translation, ASF.

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« Reply #93 on: June 18, 2008, 01:15:59 am »
Brilliant work ASF and very much appreciated. It's great to read Rafa talking about football off his own bat rather than via loaded questions from agenda driven journalists.
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« Reply #94 on: June 18, 2008, 01:19:34 am »
thanks ASF - love Rafa - bring on the clean sheet for Pepe eh!

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« Reply #95 on: June 18, 2008, 05:12:34 am »
Thanks alot ASF - its great to read about RAFA's ideas and comments on these Euro matches. Can't wait for the next instalment!


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« Reply #96 on: June 18, 2008, 05:40:02 am »
Spot on by Rafa. Completely agree on all parts.
Spain will have to play better than they did against Sweden in 1/4 finals. And Italy's style does not do favor to Spain IMO. I believe Holland would have been an easier opponent.
Holland, while played superb, has been somewhat lucky that they conceded 1 goal, although the number of chances missed by France and Italy was more than 10. So even though they are favorites, they have to prove once again. If it was Spain-Holland, because of Torres-Villa, I would have favored Spain.

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« Reply #97 on: June 18, 2008, 09:39:12 am »
Thanks alot ASF - its great to read about RAFA's ideas and comments on these Euro matches. Can't wait for the next instalment!



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« Reply #98 on: June 18, 2008, 09:52:03 am »
Good on Rafa mentioning the Liverpool players and the Liverpool fans support for them.

I'm a bit worried about Spain playing Italy.  Italy are the sort of team who seem to get through whether they play well or not. I was hoping they'd get Romania.

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« Reply #99 on: June 18, 2008, 11:50:09 am »
Good stuff ASF. Another 4:45 rise tomorrow for me to see the game. it's probably the one match in the tournament in which the most number of our players will feature.. unless Xabi and Arbeloa both get subbed on against Holland should they overcome Italy.

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« Reply #100 on: June 18, 2008, 11:53:59 am »

I'm enjoying these alot, thanks ASF. Getting an insight into Rafa's mind and way of thinking about the game.

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« Reply #101 on: June 19, 2008, 11:14:32 am »
would be very interesting to see rafa's comments on xabi's performance for Spain last night. This could prove to be very telling. Surely he will get a mention as man of the match no?
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« Reply #102 on: June 23, 2008, 01:14:17 am »
anything new on rafa's column?
would love to hear what hes got to say about their performance against italy..
sure it would be something diplomatic like " italy is tough to play", spain controlled the play etc, had chances to win the game and so on..

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« Reply #103 on: June 23, 2008, 01:47:51 am »
anything new on rafa's column?
would love to hear what hes got to say about their performance against italy..
sure it would be something diplomatic like " italy is tough to play", spain controlled the play etc, had chances to win the game and so on..



It's up on the site but I'm going to wait for ASF or someone else to translate.
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« Reply #104 on: June 23, 2008, 03:54:34 am »
The curse is over



Spain had to rely on penalty kicks last night in order to break their curse and to seal, at the same time, their pass to a semifinal matchup against Russia.  Both of the contenders yesterday drew on almost everything until the extra-time was exhausted.  Then, the spot kicks from 11 meters out went on our favour.

Earlier, the first half had gone as expected.  The absences of Pirlo and Gatusso left the Italians without their most creative player and their workhorse in midfield.  Ambrosini, positioned towards the left, and Perrota or Aquilani, to the right, didn’t provide any depth to their team which could only rely on long balls to Luca Toni, broken plays or Cassano’s ability on the left flank.  Spain, dominating the possession of the ball near the opposing penalty box, were looking for the key pass at any moment.  It wasn’t easy because of the accumulation of players in the same place, but the fouls that were called near the box, and those that weren’t, presented a threat to Buffon. Luis wanted to see more play between the lines, and the positional change between Silva and Iniesta yielded fruit to some menacing long shots.  Despite that, we reached half-time with a nil-nil draw that didn’t reward Spain’s best play.

After half-time, the Italian play was much improved.  Specially with the addition of Camoranesi, Italy had their chances.  And Spain also had theirs thanks to the added depth provided by Cesc’s play.  But nothing prevented that both teams were doomed for extra-time.  Once there, the tiredness on both teams was quite evident.  Finally, the penalty kicks decided the contest.

The favourites fall

In the rest of the games, curiously, all the favourites lost. Germany, playing simple and effective football and taking advantage of the set pieces, left Portugal on the curb.  Scolari’s men, with lots of quality, were not able to surpass the well-ordered German team.  They paid for their defensive mistakes and now the departure of Scolari to Chelsea and Madrid’s interest on Ronaldo will once again be the main headlines related to Portugal.  Ballack pointed to the change in the system as the key to the improvement of this team’s performance.  His position, behind the striker and the protection of two midfielders at his back, gave the team more solidness.

The match between Croatia and Turkey was, once again, an epic for the ottomans.  They made another comeback in the last minute, leveled the match, to win, after extra-time, on penalties.  In a very tense duel, with both teams well-organized and, later on, disorganized, many players surfaced on both sides, to show their individual quality and, above all, showing effort, great effort and passion.  Fatih Terim highlighted the confidence and determination of his men as the keys for the victory.  I completely agree with him.

And to confirm the revolution of the modest teams, Russia finished off one of the best teams in the tournament: Holland.  Displaying a good play on attack, and especially on the counter-attack, the Russians created many chances and at the end justice was made.  The better team, won.  The match was very open, both teams reached the opposing goal rather easily but Hiddink’s men attacked with more clarity and frequency.  They deserved to go through.  The ‘oranje’ offensive system, with two wingers and a striker, was very weak on defense.  Good luck in the semifinal.

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« Reply #105 on: June 23, 2008, 04:05:56 am »
nice read as usual. :thumbup

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« Reply #106 on: June 23, 2008, 04:16:24 am »
Great insight into Rafas mind and his tactical thought process. cheers ASF
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« Reply #107 on: June 23, 2008, 05:03:36 am »
Thanks ASF,

I'm surprised that Rafa never mentioned Torres being taken off, or Fabregas not starting, Luis Aragones has made a lot of mistakes, Spain are the most talented side left, but if they win it, it will be in spite of Aragones. He's a poor manager, I fear Hiddink will out wit him in the semi.
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« Reply #108 on: June 23, 2008, 06:31:37 am »
Don't think Rafa would critisise the Spain manager with the tournament in progress (If at all). Not as illuminating as his first two articles but very welcome, cheers ASF

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« Reply #109 on: June 23, 2008, 06:55:14 am »
I would have really liked to hear his take on the last Spain game, where more of our players featured, just to know what he would have said about Xabi, etc. Oh well I suppose. He is succinct and clever as usual. But I mean really, why doesn't he mention more about our players, it's almost like he's writing these for the fans of Spain, instead of us!    :P

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« Reply #110 on: June 23, 2008, 08:57:18 am »
I would have really liked to hear his take on the last Spain game, where more of our players featured, just to know what he would have said about Xabi, etc. Oh well I suppose. He is succinct and clever as usual. But I mean really, why doesn't he mention more about our players, it's almost like he's writing these for the fans of Spain, instead of us!    :P
These articles seem to be of better quality than that.
I couldn't imagine Fergie doing as unbiased articles as these, Jose would spend 500 words saying how special he was, and Arsen would wander off into some alternate universe where the number of square passes determined who won a match.

Rafa is not using these articles as a soap-box. 
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« Reply #111 on: June 23, 2008, 08:58:42 am »
they are some quality reads :D

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« Reply #112 on: June 23, 2008, 09:02:19 am »
Nice in sight into Rafa's mind.......pity no insight into us signing Villa or silva ;)

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« Reply #113 on: June 23, 2008, 09:03:01 am »
nice read!  :)

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« Reply #114 on: June 23, 2008, 09:17:43 am »
[I'm surprised that Rafa never mentioned Torres being taken off, or Fabregas not starting, Luis Aragones has made a lot of mistakes, Spain are the most talented side left, but if they win it, it will be in spite of Aragones. He's a poor manager, I fear Hiddink will out wit him in the semi.
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russia do not defend as well as the italians and i think spain will have an easier game..
unless aragones tries something very stupid, he can play the same system with the same players and win without too much problem..

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« Reply #115 on: June 23, 2008, 09:50:23 am »
You missed out the part about Rafa saying a deal was done for Arshavin in the last translation ;)
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« Reply #116 on: June 23, 2008, 09:56:12 am »
russia do not defend as well as the italians and i think spain will have an easier game..
unless aragones tries something very stupid, he can play the same system with the same players and win without too much problem..

That's a big shout, rbh. While I want them to win the tournament, Spain's weakness is also their defence. I'd put them on a par with the Dutch in that sense and we saw what Arshavin and his comrades did to them the other night. Yes, I know Spain won the opening encounter relatively easily in the end (after a close first half), but the Russians have improved with every game since and with Arshavin in their side they are a totally different prospect.

I hope you're right, but Spain are going to have to be on top form to despatch of a very useful Russian side.

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« Reply #117 on: June 23, 2008, 10:58:17 am »
That's a big shout, rbh. While I want them to win the tournament, Spain's weakness is also their defence. I'd put them on a par with the Dutch in that sense and we saw what Arshavin and his comrades did to them the other night. Yes, I know Spain won the opening encounter relatively easily in the end (after a close first half), but the Russians have improved with every game since and with Arshavin in their side they are a totally different prospect.

I hope you're right, but Spain are going to have to be on top form to despatch of a very useful Russian side.

yes spain and holland do not have the best defences but the difference is in midfield..
senna protects the defence well whereas the dutch do not have a similar player..
still i think spain will win without too much trouble..
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Re: Rafa's Euro 2008 Column - Translations by ASF!
« Reply #118 on: June 23, 2008, 04:24:44 pm »
These articles seem to be of better quality than that.
I couldn't imagine Fergie doing as unbiased articles as these, Jose would spend 500 words saying how special he was, and Arsen would wander off into some alternate universe where the number of square passes determined who won a match.

Rafa is not using these articles as a soap-box. 

That is what I was saying, that we can't expect Rafa to pander to us, the main focus is Spain. My post was sarcasm.  ;) I like the articles just the same, it's interesting to read anything Rafa writes.
Also, muchas gracias to ASF.

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Re: Rafa's Euro 2008 Column - Translations by ASF!
« Reply #119 on: June 23, 2008, 04:51:17 pm »
yes spain and holland do not have the best defences but the difference is in midfield..
senna protects the defence well whereas the dutch do not have a similar player..
still i think spain will win without too much trouble..


Without too much trouble eh? I think you're in for a big surprise. The Russki's have improved a lot since the first game and Arshavin has made a hell of a difference. I think they will win on Thursday and go on to beat the Germans in the final. They are very good technically and create a lot of chances. The game against Spain and the qualifier against England, when we beat them, were decided when Russia didn't take advantage of good spells in the games when they could and should have drawn level. I think this time they will show their true form and make a lot of people eat their words.