Author Topic: Jose Manuel Reina (Read 273182 times)

Stanfo · « **Reply #2360 on:** January 4, 2012, 01:08:36 pm »

All keepers make mistakes, the great ones make the fewest. Denying he does however does the man no favours and as you could see by his face straight after he was the first to admit it.

FlashingBlade · « **Reply #2361 on:** January 4, 2012, 01:12:21 pm »

Bad, bad, mistake to make...but what made it more galling was if Dawson had done his job properly two mins earlier it wouldn't have even happened...quite rightly Reina can be forgiven , don't feel the same about Dawson.

Danyaals Kop · « **Reply #2362 on:** January 4, 2012, 01:14:33 pm »

Quote from: FlashingBlade on January 4, 2012, 01:12:21 pm

Bad, bad, mistake to make...but what made it more galling was if Dawson had done his job properly two mins earlier it wouldn't have even happened...quite rightly Reina can be forgiven , don't feel the same about Dawson.

Dawson ?

stevedo · « **Reply #2363 on:** January 4, 2012, 01:15:46 pm »

Quote from: Danyaals Kop on January 4, 2012, 01:14:33 pm

Dawson ?

I did wonder.....

King_doggerel · « **Reply #2364 on:** January 4, 2012, 01:16:10 pm »

Hendawson.

Hunter Thompson · « **Reply #2365 on:** January 4, 2012, 01:16:43 pm »

Dawson is shite.

Nugget-8 · « **Reply #2366 on:** January 4, 2012, 01:20:43 pm »

Quote from: FitzLFC80 on January 4, 2012, 01:06:04 pm

Tell me one person or player that doesnt make a mistake?

Exactly, and he's saved us a lot more points than he's lost us in his time here.

Danyaals Kop · « **Reply #2367 on:** January 4, 2012, 01:21:16 pm »

Quote from: King_Poetic on January 4, 2012, 01:16:10 pm

Hendawson.

Very good.

CorKopite · « **Reply #2368 on:** January 4, 2012, 01:31:52 pm »

Whats with all yere reactions? please tell me people were giving him shit for the mistake?

Arcadian · « **Reply #2369 on:** January 4, 2012, 01:53:33 pm »

Quote from: 1021 on January 4, 2012, 01:07:11 pm

Not making excuses for the error, though I will always make excuses for our wonderful goalkeeper, but the ball was changed on three occasions in the first fifteen minutes, could that have had any effect on Aguero's goal?

Wondered about this myself. Tried to see if the ball had taken an unpredictable dip. Not sure though. WTFuck was going on with them anyway?

S.Red please · « **Reply #2370 on:** January 4, 2012, 02:32:26 pm »

Don't blame our loss on him at all. Yes, the first goal was his fault. But he made a fantastic save a couple of minutes later and he is genuinely a world class goalkeeper. Just bought his autobiography and can't wait to read it.

Adeemo · « **Reply #2371 on:** January 4, 2012, 02:42:13 pm »

Quote from: Arcadian on January 4, 2012, 01:53:33 pm

Tried to see if the ball had taken an unpredictable dip. Not sure though.

Definitely did IMO, the 1st little swerve before it dipped didn't look normal to me.

Chakan · « **Reply #2372 on:** January 4, 2012, 02:43:54 pm »

Quote from: Adeemo on January 4, 2012, 02:42:13 pm

Definitely did IMO, the 1st little swerve before it dipped didn't look normal to me.

Dunno mate it's grasping at straws , I watched it a couple of times, didn't see the ball dip anymore than usual. It's just a mistake by Reina with not getting his body in line. Still wouldn't trade him for anyone else.

Adeemo · « **Reply #2373 on:** January 4, 2012, 02:47:55 pm »

Quote from: Chakan on January 4, 2012, 02:43:54 pm

Dunno mate it's grasping at straws , I watched it a couple of times, didn't see the ball dip anymore than usual. It's just a mistake by Reina with not getting his body in line. Still wouldn't trade him for anyone else.

The way I saw it on the replay, was that he'd lined his gloves up to make the save initially, then it took a little swerve to the right and then dipped after that under his body. Would've still expected him to adjust and get something in the way of it though, a mistake but definitely not a howler IMO.

Aido LFC · « **Reply #2374 on:** January 4, 2012, 02:53:35 pm »

Quote from: FlashingBlade on January 4, 2012, 01:12:21 pm

Bad, bad, mistake to make...but what made it more galling was if Dawson had done his job properly two mins earlier it wouldn't have even happened...quite rightly Reina can be forgiven , don't feel the same about Dawson.

Who is Dawson? He sounds like a right shitebag.

Areal · « **Reply #2375 on:** January 4, 2012, 05:05:16 pm »

He has the right to commit some mistakes now and then, but this "now and then" is becoming too often.

Waaaaaaay overprotected. I don't see him among the best keepers in the world since 2010, every mistake of his is justified here. Well guess what, one good save does NOT compensate a previous mistake.

But indeed he is far from being our biggest problem right now, especially considering the second choice...

Pepe is still young for a goalkeeper, been on the team for quite a long time now and is our third choice for captain. I would never have him leaving the club, but he is not bigger than Liverpool.

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #2376 on:** January 4, 2012, 07:20:51 pm »

Quote from: Aido LFC on January 4, 2012, 02:53:35 pm

Who is Dawson? He sounds like a right shitebag.

he must mean Les

Enders · « **Reply #2377 on:** January 4, 2012, 07:23:59 pm »

Dawson?!? What the fuck...

cox3100 · « **Reply #2378 on:** January 4, 2012, 07:26:00 pm »

Quote from: FlashingBlade on January 4, 2012, 01:12:21 pm

Bad, bad, mistake to make...but what made it more galling was if Dawson had done his job properly two mins earlier it wouldn't have even happened...quite rightly Reina can be forgiven , don't feel the same about Dawson.

hahahaha

dawson?

who the fuck is dawson?

Passmaster Molby · « **Reply #2379 on:** January 4, 2012, 07:26:16 pm »

That fucking Dawson put us right up the creek last night - bastard.

David H · « **Reply #2380 on:** January 4, 2012, 07:27:27 pm »

That shite bastard Dawson, get rid.

harrylfc · « **Reply #2381 on:** January 4, 2012, 07:39:44 pm »

Pepe is deffo up there with the best in the world,just unfortunate that the mistakes he's made recently have dropped us valuable points....

andyrol · « **Reply #2382 on:** January 4, 2012, 07:42:04 pm »

if you look when aguero has the shot he kicks the ground just before he kicks the ball, that causes the funny trajectory. with that and the wet surface easy to see why the mistake was made.

Sat1 · « **Reply #2383 on:** January 4, 2012, 08:52:33 pm »

Love Pepe. Bad mistake but he'll save us enough times again

SmithyTheRed · « **Reply #2384 on:** January 4, 2012, 09:04:37 pm »

Dawson for Captain!!
LMFAO

ACLE · « **Reply #2385 on:** January 4, 2012, 10:22:36 pm »

I didn't see Joe Hart struggling too much with the shape of the ball with the Downing/Dawson effort. He even got enough of the odd shaped ball to kill the ball with his arse! Simply the quality of the strike was the difference between those two efforts and Aguero knew that he had a chance to score, our lad didn't. Pepe knows he fucked up but he also knows that he fucked up at Fulham too. What's Dodi thinking?

wampa1 · « **Reply #2386 on:** January 4, 2012, 10:40:24 pm »

I'm getting Dawson on the back of my shirt.

harleydanger · « **Reply #2387 on:** January 4, 2012, 10:41:35 pm »

Dodi's thinking about what he'll have for lunch as he's still light years from replacing pep

owens_2k · « **Reply #2388 on:** January 4, 2012, 10:56:06 pm »

People in here moaning about Pepe are the same people who wanted Rafa out. You don't know what you've got 'til its gone!

The Red artist. · « **Reply #2389 on:** January 4, 2012, 11:01:20 pm »

Theres only one Stuart Dawson.

barneystuta · « **Reply #2390 on:** January 4, 2012, 11:10:34 pm »

Pepe is great, love him.

But, according to Opta, our team has made 8 defensive errors. 6 of these have led to goals. So, 1 in 3 goals conceded have been our own fault, our own error.

Unfortunately, every single one has been Pepe.

Last season, Pepe made 4 defensive errors. None lead to goals.

I can't recall the 6 to be fair, but I do remember a fair few. Pepe hasn't become a bad keeper over night, so I am not sure what is going on. Every keeper has a dodgey spell, it is how they come out of it is the real test. He will do, I have absolutely no doubts, but we need to ensure the coaches are doing everything they can to help him snap out of it. He has one of the best defences in the league (in terms of ability) in front of him, and unfortunately, Pepe has let himself down. He will know that as much as anyone, and I am very confident he will snap out of it.

Lets hope we have seen the last of the errors, because we all know Pepe is much better than that. We are all right behind you Pepe.

EDIT: Ignore this. It was just 4. The Opta chart didn't interpret it correctly, Pepe has made 5 errors, 4 have led to goals. Still a a slight concern, but others have been guilty too.

bigbear · « **Reply #2391 on:** January 4, 2012, 11:17:54 pm »

Quote from: barneystuta on January 4, 2012, 11:10:34 pm

Pepe is great, love him.

But, according to Opta, our team has made 8 defensive errors. 6 of these have led to goals. So, 1 in 3 goals conceded have been our own fault, our own error.

Unfortunately, every single one has been Pepe.

Last season, Pepe made 4 defensive errors. None lead to goals.

I can't recall the 6 to be fair, but I do remember a fair few. Pepe hasn't become a bad keeper over night, so I am not sure what is going on. Every keeper has a dodgey spell, it is how they come out of it is the real test. He will do, I have absolutely no doubts, but we need to ensure the coaches are doing everything they can to help him snap out of it. He has one of the best defences in the league (in terms of ability) in front of him, and unfortunately, Pepe has let himself down. He will know that as much as anyone, and I am very confident he will snap out of it.

Lets hope we have seen the last of the errors, because we all know Pepe is much better than that. We are all right behind you Pepe.

Top keeper having a bad run.

I can't think of 6 errors but...

Spurs 4th I think when he dropped it at Adebayor's feet.
Norwich - when he came and missed the cross. (Bit harsh and Carra involved too but still a mistake)
Fulham.
City's first.

I can't think of any more.

LadsPen · « **Reply #2392 on:** January 4, 2012, 11:42:03 pm »

Quote from: barneystuta on January 4, 2012, 11:10:34 pm

Pepe is great, love him.

But, according to Opta, our team has made 8 defensive errors. 6 of these have led to goals. So, 1 in 3 goals conceded have been our own fault, our own error.

Unfortunately, every single one has been Pepe.

Last season, Pepe made 4 defensive errors. None lead to goals.

I can't recall the 6 to be fair, but I do remember a fair few. Pepe hasn't become a bad keeper over night, so I am not sure what is going on. Every keeper has a dodgey spell, it is how they come out of it is the real test. He will do, I have absolutely no doubts, but we need to ensure the coaches are doing everything they can to help him snap out of it. He has one of the best defences in the league (in terms of ability) in front of him, and unfortunately, Pepe has let himself down. He will know that as much as anyone, and I am very confident he will snap out of it.

Lets hope we have seen the last of the errors, because we all know Pepe is much better than that. We are all right behind you Pepe.

I don't understand what you mean, because straight away I can think of the spill in the Arsenal game that resulted in their equaliser?

barneystuta · « **Reply #2393 on:** January 5, 2012, 12:17:47 am »

Quote from: bigbear on January 4, 2012, 11:17:54 pm

Top keeper having a bad run.

I can't think of 6 errors but...

Spurs 4th I think when he dropped it at Adebayor's feet.
Norwich - when he came and missed the cross. (Bit harsh and Carra involved too but still a mistake)
Fulham.
City's first.

I can't think of any more.

Absolutely the first part.

And as you point out, it was "just" 4. The opta stats chart I was looking at included "defensive errors" under the "Goal Keeper stats" for everyone, not just the goal keeper. When I looked at Pepe individually, he has "only" made 5 errors, 4 led to goals. Still a bit of a concern, but not just his "fault". Others have been guilty of errors too.

k.7 · « **Reply #2394 on:** January 5, 2012, 12:29:48 am »

Stanley Dawson?

aerorossi29 · « **Reply #2395 on:** January 5, 2012, 01:17:37 am »

Love this lad, he is human, he will make mistakes. Show me a keeper who has not made any. The reason why Pepe is one of the best is becasue he limits his errors to a couple a season whilst every other time being up to his brilliant best. Yes, he has made a couple of errors recently, so what, it is a team game, and he is being let down at times by the teams failure to convert chances. For me,and it is just my view, he is the most important player at this club and i hope he is here for years to come.

WheelerLFC · « **Reply #2396 on:** January 5, 2012, 11:36:21 am »

Quote from: aerorossi29 on January 5, 2012, 01:17:37 am

Love this lad, he is human, he will make mistakes. Show me a keeper who has not made any. The reason why Pepe is one of the best is becasue he limits his errors to a couple a season whilst every other time being up to his brilliant best. Yes, he has made a couple of errors recently, so what, it is a team game, and he is being let down at times by the teams failure to convert chances. For me,and it is just my view, he is the most important player at this club and i hope he is here for years to come.

Ditto

S7ARZ · « **Reply #2397 on:** January 5, 2012, 02:11:13 pm »

Quote from: aerorossi29 on January 5, 2012, 01:17:37 am

Love this lad, he is human, he will make mistakes. Show me a keeper who has not made any. The reason why Pepe is one of the best is becasue he limits his errors to a couple a season whilst every other time being up to his brilliant best. Yes, he has made a couple of errors recently, so what, it is a team game, and he is being let down at times by the teams failure to convert chances. For me,and it is just my view, he is the most important player at this club and i hope he is here for years to come.

Exactly this,
Half the people in this topic wouldn't of bothered had we come out of that game 3-1 winners,
We made plenty of chances to counter the era and the team never made up for it.
It's unfortunate that it happened, but this is football and this is why we love it, it's unpredictable
Pepe has atleast 10 more years at Liverpool for me if he wants to stay

CognacBut · « **Reply #2398 on:** January 5, 2012, 02:19:08 pm »

Made a couple of mistakes this season. Still wouldn't swap him for any other GK on the planet. His passion for the club puts plenty of so called fans to shame. Want to see Pepe here winning titles and European cups. Can already picture him trying to walk on his hands.

ArchieC · « **Reply #2399 on:** January 5, 2012, 02:31:00 pm »

Reina for me, although makes a couple mistakes time 2 time will always be my number 1 because i really do feel confident with him in goal, and i really do think his distribution of the football is 1 of the best in the world for a goalkeeper!