Topic: Premier League Fixtures 29 April - 1 May 2017

[TheShanklyGates]

Some serious confirmation bias in this thread.

I admire your optimism, I really do. But you can't keep calling people out for having doubts when our team have consistently fucked up against dross all season.

[killer-heels]

Thoughts on the Burnely CB Keane? Been impressed everytime i've seen him

Massively overrated, which is not a surprise when he is English and there are very few decent centrebacks.

He does well in a system where he is protected massively. To me he doesnt look like he would do well in other systsms.

That said, we will probably buy him for 25m.

[Rush 82]

To be fair, they did beat Arsenal and Chelsea as well.

And this was their third game on a week if I'm not mistaken

[Dim Glas]

Some serious confirmation bias in this thread.

yep, pretty tedious, it's the same every week, it's impossible to comment on other games without doing this it seems, makes these threads as much a no go zone as threads in the main forum, I should know better than to look in!

[sms1986]

It is typical. We've been getting turned over by shite sides all season long who then in turn get turned over by even shittier sides promptly after.

We've only lost six times this season, and none of them were exactly thrashings by the smaller team. They often got lucky because of our injuries or because of our mistakes.

Remember that they beat Arsenal and Chelsea as well as us, and they're missing important players such as Sakho. It's almost like a football team can be inconsistent or something.

[Dim Glas]

I admire your optimism, I really do. But you can't keep calling people out for having doubts when our team have consistently fucked up against dross all season.

everyone knows that, it's the constant pointing out of it that gets boring.

[sms1986]

I admire your optimism, I really do. But you can't keep calling people out for having doubts when our team have consistently fucked up against dross all season.

So what would you have said if Palace won today?

[TheShanklyGates]

So what would you have said if Palace won today?

They didn't, so what's your point?

[sms1986]

They didn't, so what's your point?

OK, just imagine they did, what would you have said?

I know I can be overly positive, but you can be overly negative, as can others. You're whining about a team that lost after beating us for no reason other than to whine. We fucked up and lost against them, but it has fuck all to do with today's result. I bet I could go on Arsenal and Chelsea forums and they won't be whining about how a team that beat them lost to Burnley.

[Samie]

OK, just imagine they did, what would you have said?

I know I can be overly positive, but you can be overly negative, as can others. You're whining about a team that lost after beating us for no reason other than to whine. We fucked up and lost against them, but it has fuck all to do with today's result. I bet I could go on Arsenal and Chelsea forums and they won't be whining about how a team that beat them lost to Burnley.

Agreed . Who the fuck want's keeps commenting on our previous results like this?

[Caligula?]

We've only lost six times this season, and none of them were exactly thrashings by the smaller team. They often got lucky because of our injuries or because of our mistakes.

Remember that they beat Arsenal and Chelsea as well as us, and they're missing important players such as Sakho. It's almost like a football team can be inconsistent or something.

We've lost to:

Burnley - who then lost their next league game
Bournemouth - who then lost their next league game
Swansea - who won their next league game
Hull - who then lost their next league game
Crystal Palace - who then lost their next league game

I'm not including Leicester because of Ranieri's sacking and the circumstances being entirely different. It's just so incredibly frustrating that we've made dross like that to look good and then they return to being their usual shite selves the week or two after, and pretty much remain so indefinitely.

[sms1986]

We've lost to:

Burnley - who then lost their next league game
Bournemouth - who then lost their next league game
Swansea - who won their next league game
Hull - who then lost their next league game
Crystal Palace - who then lost their next league game

I'm not including Leicester because of Ranieri's sacking and the circumstances being entirely different. It's just so incredibly frustrating that we've made dross like that to look good and then they return to being their usual shite selves the week or two after, and pretty much remain so indefinitely.

Who did they lose these games to? Who did Swansea beat?

[TheShanklyGates]

OK, just imagine they did, what would you have said?

I know I can be overly positive, but you can be overly negative, as can others. You're whining about a team that lost after beating us for no reason other than to whine. We fucked up and lost against them, but it has fuck all to do with today's result. I bet I could go on Arsenal and Chelsea forums and they won't be whining about how a team that beat them lost to Burnley.

I'm just pissed off that we keep losing to utterly shite teams. I couldn't give a fuck whether Chelsea or Arsenal also lost to them. That argument would carry some weight if Palace was just an isolated result but it isn't, it's part of a pattern of us dropping points to teams that we are better than time after time. We have shown we are capable of much better which just makes it all the more frustrating. You may dismiss it as 'well all teams are inconsistent' but none manage it to the same extent we do where we have comfortably the best record against top 6 sides and comfortably the worst against the rest among top teams.

[macmanamanaman]

Flanagan was off the pace and lucky not to be the cause of pen, and at least 1 freekick.
Ref gave Zaha nothing all game.

One interesting take away for me watching Burnley today: 2 traditional centre forwards can work!
Direct, down the wings and cross.

In games where we struggle to even muster a shot on target with our 80% possession, I m all for trying something different. And this might be it. 442!

[killer-heels]

Flanagan was off the pace and lucky not to be the cause of pen, and at least 1 freekick.
Ref gave Zaha nothing all game.

One interesting take away for me watching Burnley today: 2 traditional centre forwards can work!
Direct, down the wings and cross.

In games where we struggle to even muster a shot on target with our 80% possession, I m all for trying something different. And this might be it. 442!

We would have seen 2 strikers up top if Origi and Sturridge had shown last seasons form.

[sms1986]

I'm just pissed off that we keep losing to utterly shite teams. I couldn't give a fuck whether Chelsea or Arsenal also lost to them. That argument would carry some weight if Palace was just an isolated result but it isn't, it's part of a pattern of us dropping points to teams that we are better than time after time. We have shown we are capable of much better which just makes it all the more frustrating. You may dismiss it as 'well all teams are inconsistent' but none manage it to the same extent we do where we have comfortably the best record against top 6 sides and comfortably the worst against the rest among top teams.

We were thrashing some of these smaller teams earlier in the season, so we are seeing some progress at least. I know it's fucking annoying to lose to teams that we should really be beating, but every team has these losses now and again, once we cut down on those losses we'll be much better.

[rowan_d]

Would like to see Burnley's results with and without Barton this season

Think his reintroduction coincided with their form tanking.

[Gerry Attrick]

Burnley finally win an away game this season, at the 20th time of asking. They didn't even manage one against Accrington Stanley in the League Cup or Sunderland in the FA Cup.

[macmanamanaman]

good result for us.
Keep big Sam on his toes for the games against our top 4 rivals.

[RedSince86]

Massively overrated, which is not a surprise when he is English and there are very few decent centrebacks.

He does well in a system where he is protected massively. To me he doesnt look like he would do well in other systsms.

That said, we will probably buy him for 25m.

Same with that Gibson at Boro,played under a ultra defensive manager where any defender would actually looked good and WBA have been quoted £30 million for him according to the papers today.

English premium is a joke.

[Zlen]

Burnley tonks Palace with ease. Motherfuckers, of course they do.
Jesus how frustrating has last week been.

[sms1986]

Burnley tonks Palace with ease. Motherfuckers, of course they do.
Jesus how frustrating has last week been.

2-0 is a tonking?

[Pistolero]

Burnley tonks Palace with ease. Motherfuckers, of course they do.
Jesus how frustrating has last week been.

yep, could've scripted it last weekend....only have ourselves to blame though....fortunately all is not lost

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Burnley tonks Palace with ease. Motherfuckers, of course they do.
Jesus how frustrating has last week been.

Yes it is, but people don't also take into account that Palace or any other small side play differently when they play someone at the bottom or near around them and the clubs at the top. They're not going to park the bus against Burnley, their ''tactics'' are not going to be the same for us and for Burnley.

hence these results. It's the same reason we do well againt the top sides. They all come in [bar United] thinking they can win and go toe to toe with us, and they lose. It plays into our hands.

It's all about match ups, styles and tactics. Not everything is so black and white.

[Pistolero]

they've played 3 games in a week...lost two of them - one to a bottom 6 club...one to a top 6 club

and won the other one.

[Tommy_W]

Can I just apologise in advance for being the worlds biggest Everton fan today?

[jillcwhomever]

OK, just imagine they did, what would you have said?

I know I can be overly positive, but you can be overly negative, as can others. You're whining about a team that lost after beating us for no reason other than to whine. We fucked up and lost against them, but it has fuck all to do with today's result. I bet I could go on Arsenal and Chelsea forums and they won't be whining about how a team that beat them lost to Burnley.

You shouldn't have to justify anything that's the point. Every one has their own hopes and beliefs, and being on this place can be tough when you're optimistic, because there is always someone who is ready to piss on your hopes. I will continue to believe right to the bitter end, don't care what anyone else says. But I have realized with some people you are wasting your time, they're never going to be able to believe, the way you do. Doesn't make anyone a better supporter or whatever it just makes us all different. Having said that I share your optimisim and no one is going to drown that out, this season or any other season. 

[jillcwhomever]

Can I just apologise in advance for being the worlds biggest Everton fan today?

You will have to do better than apologise you will have to surrender second place for saying that. 

[UntouchableLuis]

Can I just apologise in advance for being the worlds biggest Everton fan today?

Word of advice - relying on Everton doesn't end well...

[The North Bank]

Come on Chelsea!!
Fuck football, turning me into a Chelsea supporting prick.
I deserve better after all these years of service!!

[pyroparty]

De Gea, Shaw, Bailly, Blind, Young, Carrick, Herrera, Lingard, Rooney, Martial, Rashford.

Pretty dreadful side, shame they arent playing anyone good.

[Gerry Attrick]

Not much creativity in that Man U side.

[killer-heels]

Utd 3-0. Man City to beat Boro 4-0. Spurs to draw with Arsenal 2-2.

[Lycan]

I can see Spurs beating Arsenal today. And if Chelsea turn up with the same attitude they showed against Utd at Goodison Park today, Everton will beat them. Which will blow the title race wide open. Saying that I'd still put Chelsea as slight favourites to win it given the remaining fixtures both teams will have.

[McSquared]

De Gea, Shaw, Bailly, Blind, Young, Carrick, Herrera, Lingard, Rooney, Martial, Rashford.

Pretty dreadful side, shame they arent playing anyone good.

It would only be a bonus if they lost today though. They have much tougher games coming up

[The North Bank]

Expecting a few goals today, certainly Everton Chelsea and the NLD should be full of goals, hopefully not all in our net.
Could be 5-2 for Chelsea, and a 3-3 at Spurs. Will be that type of day.

[plura]

Swansea might be shite, but still that's a poor Man Utd side and they need a win. So why not a draw!?

[jillcwhomever]

Expecting a few goals today, certainly Everton Chelsea and the NLD should be full of goals, hopefully not all in our net.
Could be 5-2 for Chelsea, and a 3-3 at Spurs. Will be that type of day.

Don't Everton have a bit of form at home. Maybe wrong though.

[Gerry Attrick]

Don't Everton have a bit of form at home. Maybe wrong though.

They've won every home league game in 2017. Man City are the only good team they beat during that time but they did score 29 goals in those 8 matches. Fantastic record to be fair to them.

[Pistolero]

fingers crossed the Bitters / Lukaku are up for it ....and then Spurs manage to put some heat under the Rent Boys ringpieces.....