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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2013, 09:22:34 pm »
He does remind me a lot of Schmiechel down to the bollocking of defenders after he saves a shot  ;D

But does he 'make himself big' like Schmiechel used to, I love it when they make themselves big.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #41 on: October 1, 2013, 05:08:16 am »
The speed with which he reacts to make saves is staggering. Add to that, he always seems well positioned to make saves. Very impressed by him so far.
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #42 on: October 1, 2013, 05:17:47 am »
Average mid table keeper bla bla bla  :no
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #43 on: October 1, 2013, 05:20:27 am »
Have I mentioned I don't give two fucks about his distribution? (I have...a lot... And it's fine btw)

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #44 on: October 1, 2013, 05:26:47 am »
Was always worried about when we'd have to replace Pepe but I think this guy can be better. Top keeper who can get a lot better I think. Saved us a few points already this season that's for sure, with shots I don't think Reina would've gotten down too.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #45 on: October 1, 2013, 06:37:04 am »
From my point of view we wouldnt be where we are in the table right now if Reina was in goal. Some of the shots Mignolet has stopped have been amazing. Can i say for certain that Reina wouldnt have saved them? No but if you look at his form of shot stopping over the past 2 years you have to seriously consider that he wouldnt.

The 1 on 1 shot he stopped with his foot yesterday was ridiculous. Dont think Reina would have stopped that.

Like everyone else says I could careless if he cant distribute for shit (which i dont believe one bit) because all i care about is that he stops the shots that arent meant to be stopped.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #46 on: October 1, 2013, 09:47:14 am »
Ridiculously good shot-stopping is what I would call it. A seriously good keeper. Wish we had him in the 08/09 season, would have won us the league.
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #47 on: October 1, 2013, 10:01:14 am »

Ridiculously good shot-stopping is what I would call it. A seriously good keeper. Wish we had him in the 08/09 season, would have won us the league.

Reina wasn't the problem that season the lack of goals was.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #48 on: October 1, 2013, 10:07:46 am »
The way people go on about Pepe's distribution you'd think that he found a man in red in space with every clearance

Yes he probably is the best at it but when comparing Mignolet's distribution in a game lets remember that every goalie gives the ball to the opposition at some stage

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #49 on: October 1, 2013, 11:31:49 am »
Ridiculously good shot-stopping is what I would call it. A seriously good keeper. Wish we had him in the 08/09 season, would have won us the league.

08/09 season was not a time when we had keeper problems. in fact it was the last season Reina was at his prime.
And at that time I don't even think Mignolet in his current form could have ousted Reina.

In a year's time hopefully Mignolet can develop into that player that Reina was then and hopefully even surpass him on a consistent and sustainable basis..
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #50 on: October 1, 2013, 11:43:22 am »
there isn't a need to go extreme. Fact is he has to improve his distribution.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #51 on: October 1, 2013, 12:04:38 pm »
His distribution may not be his best skill but he's brave when he decides to try a little
ball over the top or takes on the attacker with the ball at his feet.

Cool as fark is Simon lad.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #52 on: October 1, 2013, 12:04:42 pm »
I'm not sure what Reina's long passing stats were like, but Mignolet's have been piss poor this season. Something like 1/6 of his long passes find a red shirt, and he plays it long maybe 3 times more often than he passes short. That's giving the ball back to the opposition an awful lot. In the Utd game he misplaced a pass 17 times - a big percentage of our total. Against Swansea 17 of our 73 misplaced passes were from him. Against Southampton it was 17 of 105.

I haven't looked at other keepers in loads of detail, but a quick scan suggests that most keepers find a target with a long pass in 30-50% of situations. I remember people looking at his passing stats (and Begovic's) in one of the transfer threads and, from memory, Mignolet's overall passing percentage was around 50% at Sunderland, so maybe he'll improve as the season goes on.

Of course the stats just bear out what our eyes tell us in this case don't they? The ball gets played back to Mignolet and you're thinking "please don't fucking hoof it again". That's not to say that I haven't been impressed by him so far. He's definitely earned his wages so far, and he's gained us points in a couple of games at least.

I remember PoP talking about the difference between 'technique' and 'skill' in the past. I can't remember which way round it is, but one is the ability to do something in isolation and the other is the ability to perform that action under pressure in a match day situation. I wonder if we're just seeing the effect of Mignolet getting used to the challenge of playing at a higher level club. Kind of like a striker who struggles when they've got time to think but scores goals when they're acting on instinct. He's doing the reactive stuff brilliantly at times, but when he's got a few seconds to plan a pass he wobbles a bit. I definitely think we'll see improvements as he settles in at the club.
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #53 on: October 1, 2013, 12:06:50 pm »
Best shot stopper in the league bar none, quite comfortably too. He can work on his distribution though, i'm sure that'll improve given time.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #54 on: October 1, 2013, 12:10:08 pm »
Better now than Pepe ever was at shot stopping. But it's his distribution that can look a bit shaky. At least if he has to play it short often it's not THAT big of an issue
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #55 on: October 1, 2013, 12:13:10 pm »
I'm not sure what Reina's long passing stats were like, but Mignolet's have been piss poor this season. Something like 1/6 of his long passes find a red shirt, and he plays it long maybe 3 times more often than he passes short.

To be fair to the lad, not like we've got any decent target men up front.

Sturridge is class but not like he is the type of player to put his head in where it could get a thump.
Suarez is too busy elbowing the CB and backing into them to get his bonce on it.
Coutinho isn't going to win much in the air.

It's why Johnson and Enrique have to push so far forward to give him a decent target.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #56 on: October 1, 2013, 12:13:45 pm »
I really don't care if the keeper can distribute well. And that's not even old fashioned thinking. As long as he can get it quickly and safely to our players it's fine. Plenty of brilliant attacking sides out there don't have keepers with especially good distribution. It's a luxury, that is all.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #57 on: October 1, 2013, 12:27:08 pm »
Thing is he isn't getting it to our players quickly and safely so far.

To be fair to the lad, not like we've got any decent target men up front.

Sturridge is class but not like he is the type of player to put his head in where it could get a thump.
Suarez is too busy elbowing the CB and backing into them to get his bonce on it.
Coutinho isn't going to win much in the air.

It's why Johnson and Enrique have to push so far forward to give him a decent target.


Aye no doubt that's part of it, and you're probably right about Enrique and Johnson as preferred targets. Rodgers has talked in the past about having the keeper chip the ball when we're being pressure high up the pitch. was it againdt City at the start of last season when Rodgers asked Reina to target Kelly?

hopefully that's something Mignolet can add to his game.
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #58 on: October 1, 2013, 12:31:30 pm »
Thing is he isn't getting it to our players quickly and safely so far.

He's stopping the ball from being in our net, though
Pretty happy with Arse taking it.

Disappointing.
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #59 on: October 1, 2013, 12:32:04 pm »
Thing is he isn't getting it to our players quickly and safely so far.

Don't know about that mate, he got the ball to Suarez pretty quick from the corner for the 3rd goal.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #60 on: October 1, 2013, 12:33:49 pm »
Thing is he isn't getting it to our players quickly and safely so far.

He managed to get it to suarez quickly enough for our third, it's coming, its just gonna take a bit of time till it becomes second nature. I'd rather have a truly world class shop stopper and be able to work on his distribution than a keeper with great distribution but needs a bit of work on shot stopping.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #61 on: October 1, 2013, 12:39:00 pm »
Some of the distribution issues seem to have been addressed in training, and the three in front of him looked to be a good match, with some instruction possibly to pass back to him less as an automatic response, probably to Skittles as much as anyone, as the manoeuvre just switches the pressure from the defender to the goalie. That side of things did look much better with the one extra option. I am looking forward to seeing how Brendan shapes the defence for the next big counterattacking game, which will be West Brom, in our yard. You would have to say that 3rd goal was the counterattacking goal of the season so far.
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #62 on: October 1, 2013, 12:48:35 pm »
He's stopping the ball from being in our net, though

Exactly. You can teach distribution but you can't teach reflexes. I know which I'd rather have right now.
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #63 on: October 1, 2013, 04:30:25 pm »
Simply the fact that we have not mentioned Pepe since Mignolet has been No1 says it all
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #64 on: October 1, 2013, 04:31:04 pm »
Simply the fact that we have not mentioned Pepe since Mignolet has been No1 says it all
People mention Pepe and his distribution all of the time.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #65 on: October 1, 2013, 05:14:07 pm »
Can't hepl being impressed with his shot stopping. Fantastic reactions and agility. Slight worry over his distribution but that will improve as he builds up relationships with the team.

I would like to see him play the ball so to speak on penalties. In that he watches the ball and doesn't try to guess the direction.

Very often takers will miss hit or place it, watching the ball, I maintain gives the keeper a better chance to save it.

Looks like he's here for the long term and we should get at least £8m for the unlucky Reina. (unlucky in that he didn't do that much wrong to lose his LFC jersey).

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #66 on: October 1, 2013, 05:24:49 pm »
Maybe if he aims for an opposition defender he'd have more chances of finding our player. Cause he never seems to find his way to the person he actually intends to play the ball to... And neither is he able to kick it long.

I don't know if our attackers are just about at the half-way line because he can't kick it long or if it's the other way round. But, either way, if they are near the half-way line rather than deep in opponent's half, it is risky as if we don't get possession, it could lead to the opposition coming at us in waves....
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #67 on: October 1, 2013, 05:34:30 pm »
Ridiculously good shot-stopping is what I would call it. A seriously good keeper. Wish we had him in the 08/09 season, would have won us the league.

That was Pepe at his peak too, 08/09 season. He pulled some worldies out in that time.
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #68 on: October 1, 2013, 05:43:10 pm »
Ridiculously good shot-stopping is what I would call it. A seriously good keeper. Wish we had him in the 08/09 season, would have won us the league.



Disagree with this, Pepe did very little wrong that year, we just drew too many matches against average sides like Stoke and don't see a different keeper would have made any difference.

Mignolet has made a great start though and has the potential to be a fantastic stopper for us for many years to come.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #70 on: October 1, 2013, 05:49:02 pm »
He is brilliant, one of the best shot stoppers in the league, couldn't give a toss about his distribution.

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« Reply #71 on: October 1, 2013, 05:52:15 pm »

Disagree with this, Pepe did very little wrong that year, we just drew too many matches against average sides like Stoke and don't see a different keeper would have made any difference.

Mignolet would've saved Arshavin's 3rd goal...


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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #72 on: October 1, 2013, 06:00:25 pm »
To be fair, if we had Suarez back then we'd have walked it. Could do this all day!

This season, suddenly I find I'm starting to get less worried about our defensive set up. Mignolet, Sakho, Toure in the heart of it. It's a serious improvement over what we've had, and when they're all up to speed, we'll see Mignolet going for the golden gloves this season.
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #73 on: October 1, 2013, 06:02:33 pm »
I was well up for signing a new keeper as I had lost a degree of confidence in Reina after his final two seasons and I think we've signed one of the best in the guy. Phenomenal shot-stopper.

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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #75 on: October 1, 2013, 07:35:21 pm »
Maybe if he aims for an opposition defender he'd have more chances of finding our player. Cause he never seems to find his way to the person he actually intends to play the ball to... And neither is he able to kick it long.

I don't know if our attackers are just about at the half-way line because he can't kick it long or if it's the other way round. But, either way, if they are near the half-way line rather than deep in opponent's half, it is risky as if we don't get possession, it could lead to the opposition coming at us in waves....
More than could, it has. He single handedly prevents us playing possession football, until this weakness is sorted, but we may be compensating for that by his outstanding shot stopping combined with decent attack. It was far less of an issue against Sunderland, but we will not be playing them more than once again this season. I think this is improving, we will see.
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #76 on: October 1, 2013, 07:37:16 pm »
Mignolet would've saved Arshavin's 3rd goal...


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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #77 on: October 1, 2013, 07:40:00 pm »
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Re: Simon Mignolet
« Reply #79 on: October 1, 2013, 07:45:53 pm »
More than could, it has. He single handedly prevents us playing possession football, until this weakness is sorted, but we may be compensating for that by his outstanding shot stopping combined with decent attack. It was far less of an issue against Sunderland, but we will not be playing them more than once again this season. I think this is improving, we will see.
Spurs have the second highest percentage stats in the league yet their keeper has the fourth worst passing percentage stats at 39.2%.

It is a bit easy to say Mignolet is single handedly preventing us from playing percentage football. When the defence is deep like against Villa and United it is hard to pass out from the back. Against Sunderland and Stoke when we're pushed up a bit more the teams, and subsequently Mignolet's, passing stats are much better.
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