Topic: Tory Pig F*ckers

[Mouth]

Err... Brighton bomb?... Airey Neave blown up in a car bomb at the House of Commons?... mortar attack on Major in Downing Street?...

What is the point of that post? What the fuck does it matter if there were or there weren't snipers at the Labour conference? Are you and your Twitter mates so one-eyed that you can't see that this is not a story?

More bothered about the fact he's got a fucking deck chair, whats he think he is doing having a picnic!

As an aside, interesting he appears to have a suppresser fitted, maybe he wasn't really a copper, but an assassin dum dah dum

[Red Beret]

There is good reason for it. The Tories want to run it into the ground so people are fed up of it and then it's easier to sell off, and the people will fall for it..........insurance (if you can afford it) here we come.

They have done it with pretty much every single national asset.  Starved it of finance, blamed it for poor performance, then sold the public on the notion that the private sector can run it better and for less.

[Red Beret]

It's worth remembering that the Poll Tax riots got rid of Thatcher but Labour didn't get in again for another seven years while Major carried on with her policies.

With "kettling" I reckon the police are determined that the likes of the poll tax riots never happen again.  They don't give a shit if cities like Liverpool burn, but they wont see it on the government's doorstep in London - too close to the votes that matter.

[Fat Scouser]

There is good reason for it. The Tories want to run it into the ground so people are fed up of it and then it's easier to sell off, and the people will fall for it..........insurance (if you can afford it) here we come.

Bingo! Give that man the cigar.

[bigbonedrawky]

And spat at.....


And that's the story....

Idiots who can't control themselves...

All the good message of the peaceful protestors has been blown out of the water by a few wankers....

Way to go

Thats your story and you presume the rest of the country see someone getting egged or spat at more important than 70,000 people protesting against Austerity which effects millions of people.

[Fat Scouser]

And focusing on short term protest instead of winning power is worse than abstaining...

Denis Healey... but then he was a 'tory-lite' as well I suppose.

It's worth remembering that the Poll Tax riots got rid of Thatcher but Labour didn't get in again for another seven years while Major carried on with her policies.

The Tory Party and it's idealogy, just like the Hepatitis C I'm suffering from, is a very sly incidious thing. They've been working away at this since Thatcher. And for all the things I read in here, Thatchers "Greatest Achievement," done very little to stop the destruction of our NHS and Welfare State. Indeed, their use of PFI only accelerated it. But no doubt, if this post even draws a comment, that's the nit that will be picked.

Anyway, like Thatcher inspired Conservatism, Hep C is lethal but slow, and patiently creeps up on people. And for a long time, I had no idea of how ill I am. But it's been slyly working away at me since I was given the bad blood in 1988. And I just accepted the way I was feeling until about 3 years ago, when I started to get ill beyond ignoring and soldiering on. And bar for telling the Aul Arses, I said nothing on here until a few months ago.

I'm 58 now, so for years I just accepted the way I was feeling as normal aging. And looking back, I realise I really have been ill for years and just plodded along, saying fuck all and carrying on regardless... the way most working class stiffs do. But I've only been on medication for 10 days now and already I'm feeling a thousand times better.

I'm not quite up for doing the Can-Can just yet. But the constant awful fatigue has gone. My sleep is still bollocksed, but I'm not sweating and scratching all night. My eyes were starting to turn yellow and that's cleared up. The constant aching is nothing to what it was. And I could go on. But best of all the brain fog is lifting. Well, it seems to be. And I can read a bit more and string a few sentences together again. But even if it's only pyschosematic, I know, in my nuttiest of moments, I was right about these bastards. And for all the clever arguments put back at me, I still haven't seen one thing that makes me think I'm wrong.

So, abstaining is what then, Al... a cunning ploy to grab power?

The medication I'm on is costing the NHS 65k. The corporation ripping them off is the same corporation that poisoned me and hundreds of thousands of people globally. Please don't tell me about Development and Research. That is paid for by us... the working stiffs.

And as for compensate me for the harm they have done... Ha! They won't even acknowledge me. And when people took them to court in the USA and won, the American Government stepped in and quashed the decision, saying, and I qoute... "It will wreck the industry."

As I've said a million times over, the bad blood can be traced right to Bill Clinton, who is now earning mega bucks from his charity/foundation... supplying medication to 3rd world victims of HIV and HCV. He was director of a company that was bleeding prisoners in Arkansas, when he was Governor, and selling the blood to Bayer. They manufacture one of the tablets that's in my cocktail.  But I won't complain about taking all the pills, nor the side effects of them, as the older anti-viral therapy was a mixture of highly toxic injections and tablets, that much like Chemo fucked people up, hair teeth gone, and all that malarkey.

Besides, I'm a very lucky lad. Part of the medicine course I'm on isn't on general release yet. I'm one of the first on it. And, daft as it is, I feel guilty when I'm talking to other survivors in the blood group I'm part of. And it really is daft, as they are lovely people and glad for me. And I can't pretend that I'm not made up to be on it. And I really can't explain how grateful I am to the NHS. I'd be at death door now had I went back to America as I intended to do just before I got ill.

In fact, I'd probably be dead if the NHS hadn't wiped the Lymph Nodes out that stopped the manky blood killing me. So, I really can't speak highly enough of the NHS. But while I'm doing that, I have to say, i'm only on the new medication because my Specialist Liver Nurse fought tooth and claw to get me it. I have 2. But that one young woman has without doubt saved my life. I'll never be able to thank her enough.

I'm not being an overly dramatic tart. I've just got the usual Insomnia. And nothing better to do than this, Lord help me. But it's the truth. That girl has done me a wonderful turn, as I have advanced micro-nodular cirrhosis with lots of complications... meaning my liver has about 2 years left in it tops, if the meds don't work.

The Genotype of HepC that I've got destroys 2.5% of the liver annually. And if left untreated, the stage I'm at means... a matter of months until End Stage Liver Disease, as the call it. But it pretty much means Liver Cancer. But hopefully the meds will stop that and it will get no worse.

It'll get no better either. The Liver does regenerate but not from this cack. So, I'll still be living on a knackered one, meaning I'll never have another pint, and I'll have to get checked every 6 months of my life. So my travelling days are over and I'll never be well enough to do my old work again.

It's also left me homeless, skint and denied ESA by ATOS. I can go on Job Seekers, though. But I'm not bothering, as I'll never be able to met the conditions and I'll be sanctioned. And after 3 strikes the sanctions kick in for 4 years. So, that's that. Let alone never seeing any compo, the safety net that I've paid for has been whipped from under me. But hey ho, I'm a competent lad. I'll be alright once the meds have done their magic.

So fuck it all... I'm alive. And I might get a normal span out of it. So I've got the chance of seeing my grandkids get a bit older, maybe even kop a great one. But I'll also see their Health Service fall into the hands of the very corporations that done this to me.  And I hate to be the voice of doom and gloom. But they've already got their claws around the Plasma Division of the NHS. And I could go on. But I'll just say, an egg is the last thing I'd lash at the dirty robbing scoundrels that sold it to them. And for a bit of filthy lucre, have made it possible for this, or something worse, possible again. And make no mistake, this is what happens when heath care is provided for profit.

For the life of me, I'll never see eye to eye with anyone who doesn't see not opposing all this as acceptable, excusable Labour Party policy. Far as I'm concerned, abstaining on the welfare bill was no better than collaborating with these bastards. And it breaks my heart to think my grandkids only chance is with an old man, who's probably as knackered as me, and constantly getting stabbed up by his own party and belittled and besmerched by the very people that should be supporting him.

And that's about all I can say on the subject. But if any ABC has bothered to read it, they still haven't answered the question I put to them way back when all this started... Where is this mythical Labour politician that, let alone defeat Mr Corbyn, was going magically make the party electable and sweep us back to power in the next election?

Nobody outside the circle even listened to them, let alone supported them. And far as I'm concerned, that was just as well in the case of second choice Andy Burnham... "The tainted blood scandal has gone on far too long," after he'd at best ignored it for all his years in Health, at worse helped bury it.

You ABC's haven't got the monopoly on wanting a Labour Government. We all want that. And I'll be honest enough to say, I don't truly believe Corbyn can deliver that, not with the troops he's got behind him. But where is your credible alternative? Where is the person that should be at least opposing the Tories on our behalf now, instead of abstaining? Where is the

Ah fuck it. I wish I had an egg. Lash it at a Tory. Fuck that, I've got a few bits of bread left there. I'd love a nice egg butty after bouncing a fucking big rock of IDS's hugely expensively claimed for, and it must be said, well manicured, baldy mental bastard head.

Think that's wrong? Tell you what, don't tell me as I you're wasting your breath. So try telling this girl and her Mam, Abstaining is Futile...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/609552/Severely-disabled-teen-work-interview-DWP

[Fat Scouser]

PS... I'm not sorry for saying what I say. And I stand by every word. But I hate being a preachy prick just as much as any of you hate me for it. But like I keep saying, this is War. It's been declared on us. And it's hard to laugh and joke when you're under heavy fire.

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Samuel Miller ‏@Hephaestus7

The numbers of people living in fuel poverty are being reduced from 3.2 to 2.4 million simply by changing the definition of fuel poverty.

[TepidT2O]

This....

Is utterly nauseating

Ministers should waste no time to make unpopular cuts to pensioner benefits, a think tank director has said.
Many of those hit by a cut to the winter fuel allowance might "not be around" at the next election, said Alex Wild of the Taxpayers' Alliance.
And others would forget which party had done it, he added.
At the group's meeting at the Conservative conference in Manchester, former defence secretary Liam Fox said spending cuts must be "for keeps".
Mr Wild said the Tories could not wait until a year before the next election to make the necessary cuts to the winter fuel allowance, free bus passes, the Christmas bonus and other pensioner benefits.
The cuts should be made "as soon as possible after an election for two reasons", said Mr Wild.
"The first of which will sound a little bit morbid - some of the people... won't be around to vote against you in the next election. So that's just a practical point, and the other point is they might have forgotten by then."
He added: "If you did it now, chances are that in 2020 someone who has had their winter fuel cut might be thinking, 'Oh I can't remember, was it this government or was it the last one? I'm not quite sure.'
"So on a purely practical basis I would say do it immediately. That might be one of those things I regret saying in later life but that would be my practical advice to the government."
'Day of reckoning'
Mr Fox told the meeting that the government had to act now to make further cuts to pensioner benefits and welfare.
He said "we can never go back" to the "historically high" levels of public spending seen in recent years and the government's public spending cuts must be "for keeps".
"This is the time to fix the roof" he said.
"We have a broken opposition. We have just won a general election and we need now to take the tough decisions we believe are right."
Now that Labour was not such a "great threat", this was a "great opportunity for us to do some of the more difficult things, however unpalatable they will be in the short term are what we need to do for the country", said the right-wing backbencher.
He added: "We need to do what we all know deep in our hearts to be right."
Liam FoxImage copyrightConservative Party
Image caption
Former defence secretary Liam Fox said the government had to make further cuts
Mr Fox added that the government had to make the "moral" case for reducing public spending further.
"We are borrowing from the next generation to spend today. That is otherwise known as a Ponzi scheme," he said.
"It's what we are operating as a national financial policy."
He added: "If you continue to overspend there will be a day of reckoning."
He said this was because borrowing costs would rise and the era of low inflation would not last forever, meaning economic growth on its own was not enough to balance the books.
Older people would understand the need for cuts to their benefits to help the next generation, he suggested.
"We have got to start to get really honest with people because this is not a sustainable position," he said.
"We can't afford it now, we can't afford it in the future, why don't we try to get a longer-term plan put in place so that people can make the adjustments they will need to make for us to be able to get back into balance."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34439965

[alfonso]

It's an absurd thing to do.....

Odd though it may seem, we struggle to recruit enough young doctors.  Too many become quickly disillusioned and are leaving the country or he profession.  It's a crying shame.

Iirc its not a straight 30% pay cut, but an effective one....

The NHS is straining at the seams tight now, and there's no good reason for it...

It seems they are allowing it to crumble so they can fix it by privatizing it completely.

[alfonso]

They have done it with pretty much every single national asset.  Starved it of finance, blamed it for poor performance, then sold the public on the notion that the private sector can run it better and for less.

And have the taxpayer pay subsidies, to support these high profit companies. Taxpayers are paying twice. Bills and subsidies.
I wouldn't have a problem with some privatization if there were no subsidies, prices were fair and contracts were awarded not based on who shareholders are, i.e, politicians or their country club friends.

[Trada]

I was chatting to a lady on Twitter the other week. She had just been on the radio talking about the tax credit cuts and she was saying that a lot of people will be in for a big shock next April lots of people don't realise it is going to happen.

And she was asking for letters to be sent out so people can prepare for the drop in money.

I really think if they don't back track on this it will be a game changer.

[TepidT2O]

They won't.  Not a chance...

And you're absolutely right, from April lots of people will get a huge shock and will suffer greatly.

[OOS]

They won't.  Not a chance...

And you're absolutely right, from April lots of people will get a huge shock and will suffer greatly.

Id imagine it will be Labour areas which get hit hardest, so shit might not hit the fan for them in FPTP system.

Even more important Labour fight for incomes, of the lowest and middle.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34439965

Taxpayers' Alliance: Cut pensioner benefits 'immediately'

Ministers should waste no time to make unpopular cuts to pensioner benefits, a think tank director has said.
Many of those hit by a cut to the winter fuel allowance might "not be around" at the next election, said Alex Wild of the Taxpayers' Alliance.
And others would forget which party had done it, he added.
At the group's meeting at the Conservative conference in Manchester, former defence secretary Liam Fox said spending cuts must be "for keeps".
Mr Wild said the Tories could not wait until a year before the next election to make the necessary cuts to the winter fuel allowance, free bus passes, the Christmas bonus and other pensioner benefits.
The cuts should be made "as soon as possible after an election for two reasons", said Mr Wild.
"The first of which will sound a little bit morbid - some of the people... won't be around to vote against you in the next election. So that's just a practical point, and the other point is they might have forgotten by then."
He added: "If you did it now, chances are that in 2020 someone who has had their winter fuel cut might be thinking, 'Oh I can't remember, was it this government or was it the last one? I'm not quite sure.'
"So on a purely practical basis I would say do it immediately. That might be one of those things I regret saying in later life but that would be my practical advice to the government."
'Day of reckoning'
Mr Fox told the meeting that the government had to act now to make further cuts to pensioner benefits and welfare.
He said "we can never go back" to the "historically high" levels of public spending seen in recent years and the government's public spending cuts must be "for keeps".
"This is the time to fix the roof" he said.
"We have a broken opposition. We have just won a general election and we need now to take the tough decisions we believe are right."
Now that Labour was not such a "great threat", this was a "great opportunity for us to do some of the more difficult things, however unpalatable they will be in the short term are what we need to do for the country", said the right-wing backbencher.
He added: "We need to do what we all know deep in our hearts to be right."
Liam FoxImage copyrightConservative Party
Image caption
Former defence secretary Liam Fox said the government had to make further cuts
Mr Fox added that the government had to make the "moral" case for reducing public spending further.
"We are borrowing from the next generation to spend today. That is otherwise known as a Ponzi scheme," he said.
"It's what we are operating as a national financial policy."
He added: "If you continue to overspend there will be a day of reckoning."
He said this was because borrowing costs would rise and the era of low inflation would not last forever, meaning economic growth on its own was not enough to balance the books.
Older people would understand the need for cuts to their benefits to help the next generation, he suggested.
"We have got to start to get really honest with people because this is not a sustainable position," he said.
"We can't afford it now, we can't afford it in the future, why don't we try to get a longer-term plan put in place so that people can make the adjustments they will need to make for us to be able to get back into balance."

[TepidT2O]

Posted that about five posts ago mate

[Tsar Kastik]

Feel like throwing an egg

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34439965

Taxpayers' Alliance: Cut pensioner benefits 'immediately'

Ministers should waste no time to make unpopular cuts to pensioner benefits, a think tank director has said.
Many of those hit by a cut to the winter fuel allowance might "not be around" at the next election, said Alex Wild of the Taxpayers' Alliance.
And others would forget which party had done it, he added.

What fucking shocking thing to say.

I thought these type of things are ring fenced.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Posted that about five posts ago mate

Sorry, I'm a bit pissed.. Yesterday was a mad day.

[Fat Scouser]

Samuel Miller ‏@Hephaestus7

The numbers of people living in fuel poverty are being reduced from 3.2 to 2.4 million simply by changing the definition of fuel poverty.

Makes me laugh how Poverty became Fuel Poverty, Food Poverty and so on... Poverty is Poverty. And if you can't keep warm, chances are you can't eat properly either.

But then I'm just surprised the Tories haven't gone full hog and done away with Poverty completely, like they did with child poverty, by calling it Life Challenge or some such shite.

Wonder when the letters will turn up from pensioners, thanking the Right Honourable Matthew Hogg for taking back up knitting and reminding them how to make blankets, and fend off hypothermia like they did in the good old days, Gahwd Bless Ya, Guvnor.

Oh well, role on the Panorama expose of the terrible witch hunt being conducted by the slavering mob against our most honourable.

[Fat Scouser]

Sorry, I'm a bit pissed.. Yesterday was a mad day.

Ha! Good for you Lad. Fuck'em. Go have a Mad Monday in town.

[oldfordie]

This Tory lot today are more dangerous than ever before. it's not so much about what they are proposing here.yes. that's bad but it's the open contempt they have for others. how smart they are. they will be the ones wanting to forget this not the pensioners.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34439965

Ministers should waste no time to make unpopular cuts to pensioner benefits, a think tank director has said.

Many of those hit by a cut to the winter fuel allowance might "not be around" at the next election, said Alex Wild of the Taxpayers' Alliance.

And others would forget which party had done it, he added.

At the group's meeting at the Conservative conference in Manchester, former defence secretary Liam Fox said spending cuts must be "for keeps

[macca888]

Makes me laugh how Poverty became Fuel Poverty, Food Poverty and so on... Poverty is Poverty. And if you can't keep warm, chances are you can't eat properly either.

Don't be fucking stupid Fats. They can afford a tin of soup but they just haven't got ten bob for the gas meter to warm it up. I can see the headlines in two years "Last year we took 500,000 pensioners out of poverty... by letting the poor c*nts die." 

As for the whole egg palaver, they could have responded to it Prescott style. But no, they'll hide behind the police and the press and probably say "I thought these c*nts couldn't afford to eat? We best be closing a few more food banks down if all they're going to do is waste it." I'm half in and half out on the discussion that people were having on here yesterday. Eggs, I don't mind, but the spitting is fucking disgusting and I draw the line at that. I'd sooner someone give me a right hook than a right hawk. Dirty bastard lowlifes are spitters.

[macca888]

This Tory lot today are more dangerous than ever before. it's not so much about what they are proposing here.yes. that's bad but it's the open contempt they have for others. how smart they are. they will be the ones wanting to forget this not the pensioners.

I told you I wasn't being paranoid when I said they'd start trying to stop cancer referrals from GP's to oncologists in the hope that the pensioners would be dead before they got treatment. c*nts, the lot of them.

[Fat Scouser]

Don't be fucking stupid Fats. They can afford a tin of soup but they just haven't got ten bob for the gas meter to warm it up. I can see the headlines in two years "Last year we took 500,000 pensioners out of poverty... by letting the poor c*nts die." 

As for the whole egg palaver, they could have responded to it Prescott style. But no, they'll hide behind the police and the press and probably say "I thought these c*nts couldn't afford to eat? We best be closing a few more food banks down if all they're going to do is waste it." I'm half in and half out on the discussion that people were having on here yesterday. Eggs, I don't mind, but the spitting is fucking disgusting and I draw the line at that. I'd sooner someone give me a right hook than a right hawk. Dirty bastard lowlifes are spitters.

Life, Lemons and Lemonade, Mac... make a Spit Omellette?

ATOS paid no tax in 2012, despite being paid 1.5billion of tax payers money... Source RT.

The BBC and ATOS... http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-vendors/bbc-prepares-for-break-up-of-2bn-atos-contract-in-2015-3502091/

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Tommy ‏@notmyconcern 2m2 minutes ago

Oh look! Tax-avoiders #Google have set up stall at their best pals conference. All in it together

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Fucking hell Osbourn.e comparing himself to Kennedy

[Trada]

This is a shockingly bad speech just full of bullshit and soundbites

[Les Willis]

Fucking hell Osbourn.e comparing himself to Kennedy

Charles? 

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Charles? 

At least we now know what sniper is all about now.

[gamble]

Missed bits of this, did he announce another cut to inheritance tax?

Useless tory bastards, have you ever made any money yourself? Obsessed with inheritance tax.

[Trada]

I really think this Tax credit cut is going to be there poll tax.

[TepidT2O]

I really think this Tax credit cut is going to be there poll tax.

I would like to agree.

Sadly I don't think it will be. 

Why? Because it only effects the poorest, and I suspect most people won't notice.  The poll tax involved everyone.

[Trada]

[Circa1892]

Moving onto actual policy being discussed.

This whole "local business rates" thing and the removal of any central grant etc.

It's managed decline in action isn't it? If somewhere is struggling and has less businesses' in it currently, then they're fucked - they get slightly more fucked etc...

[Circa1892]

Also - all Councils can cut business rates, but only councils with elected mayors can raise them.

What an absolute farce.

[Les Willis]

I'm wondering whether the Tories are favouring Mayors for some of the larger cities as it's a possible way of getting a Tory foothold in some of the more Labour Cities.
Reason being, you are voting for the charismatic individual in a lot of the mayoral elections rather than the party (at least that's the way it seems to have worked in London with Boris). Having said that I doubt that the Tories would stand a chance in a city like Sheffield whoever was standing.

[TravisBickle]

Osborne expertly doing everything Corbyn should have done but evidently didn't even consider. Attempting to reach out to people who didn't vote for his party and stealing his opponents' more popular policies. You may not the hall didn't erupt with cries of "LABOUR LITE SCUM" as well, because they actually like being in power.

[Mutton Geoff]

Posted that about five posts ago mate

i was just about to, some might be dead and others wont remember who did it, what a bunch of up their own arse bastards, i hope they dont enjoy their golden handshake retirement packages

[Circa1892]

I'm wondering whether the Tories are favouring Mayors for some of the larger cities as it's a possible way of getting a Tory foothold in some of the more Labour Cities.
Reason being, you are voting for the charismatic individual in a lot of the mayoral elections rather than the party (at least that's the way it seems to have worked in London with Boris). Having said that I doubt that the Tories would stand a chance in a city like Sheffield whoever was standing.

Or a Labour mayor is an easier scapegoat than 90 individual Labour Councillors in somewhere like Manchester or Sheffield.