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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #480 on: November 9, 2010, 11:53:29 pm »
I posted these some time back in the Aul Arse thread, but worth another look.

I can taste the Double Diamond just by looking at some of these.

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« Reply #481 on: November 9, 2010, 11:54:43 pm »
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #482 on: November 10, 2010, 12:08:29 am »
Cheers for them Shanks.

They look a bit before my time though, as I don't remember Lime St. looking like that.

Any idea what year they are from?   I'd hazzard a guess and say late 40s - early 50s.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #483 on: November 10, 2010, 12:14:41 am »
Cheers for them Shanks.

They look a bit before my time though, as I don't remember Lime St. looking like that.

Any idea what year they are from?   I'd hazzard a guess and say late 40s - early 50s.

Probably right Rich judging by the clothes, but Lime Street didn't change for years.
I can remember it like that as a kid and up to the early 90s only a few things had changed.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #484 on: November 10, 2010, 12:17:58 am »
Probably right Rich judging by the clothes, but Lime Street didn't change for years.
I can remember it like that as a kid and up to the early 90s only a few things had changed.
Yeah, I was trying to judge the date  by peoples clothes, but the men arn't giving a lot away, and I'm judging it by the big collars on the womens blouses etc. which look rather 40s.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #485 on: November 10, 2010, 12:22:15 am »
I'm sure I spotted Vic Gill in one them.
No doubt he'll be able to tell us what year.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #486 on: November 10, 2010, 12:23:43 am »
I'm sure I spotted Vic Gill in one them.
No doubt he'll be able to tell us what year.
Is he the one with the 'coffee dyed' nylons?

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #487 on: November 10, 2010, 12:25:39 am »
Is he the one with the 'coffee dyed' nylons?
The very lady chap.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #488 on: November 10, 2010, 12:36:46 am »
That looks like a newspaper headline poster         THE HYDROGEN BOMB.   which would definately put it into late 40s-early 50s.


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #489 on: November 10, 2010, 01:05:07 am »
That looks like a newspaper headline poster         THE HYDROGEN BOMB.   which would definately put it into late 40s-early 50s.



Chrsit Richie....you've got eyes like a shit house rat.

Just checked and it's the 1950s.

As an aside. I posted a story somewhere on here about when my brother sold tickets to his mates to see my Dads elephant(Not a metaphor by the way)
Obviously it wasn't my Dads elephant!
His family ran stables in Toxteth, where we lived behind The Pivvy, when it was a theatre. They used to have circus acts on there and when the animals were arriving in Liverpool they used my Grandad to bring the animals in.

Cutting a long story short, the elephant bolted off the train just as my Dad was laying the ramp down for it to walk off, standing on his finger in the process.
All hands chased the elephant around Lime Street until it was recaptured.

I'm only telling this tale as I came across this picture.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #490 on: November 10, 2010, 02:02:07 am »

Those photo's are great, pretty much how I remembered Lime St from around 1960 as a small lad. As you said SB, I don't think it changed much until probably towards the end of the 60's. One thing the photo's don't give you though is the smell of the steam engines and the constant noise of the taxi cabs and those 3 wheeled red and cream British Rail Parcels scarab trucks bombing in and out.



The bloke reading the newspaper under the Duraflex sign, I think just behind him might be the machine for 'platform tickets'. Used to have to get one of them, I think they were something like a penny, to go past the barriers and onto the platforms back then.



I don't think this site has been posted yet. There's some cracking photo's of the old Trams and scenes around town... here


Liverpool car 953 at Utting Avenue Railway Bridge, 30 July 1955. Photo ©David Clarke.

Here's the approximate view now

Have a look at picture L4 on page 2 for a view of the happy travellers on the top deck.


And for all us Jacey fans, here's another view of Clayton Square sadly looking very delapidated and I expect taken not too long before it was all flattened.


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #491 on: November 10, 2010, 05:12:31 pm »
Chrsit Richie....you've got eyes like a shit house rat.



as my Dad was laying the ramp down for it to walk off, standing on his finger in the process.
All hands chased the elephant around Lime Street

1st point.
No mate, my eyes are shit. I wear glasses. and also investigate photo's further with a magnifying glass.



The second quote just made me laugh.

I just had avision of a fella with one normal hand, and one hand ala. cartoon style, like one of those big foam hands.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #492 on: November 10, 2010, 06:05:24 pm »
1st point.
No mate, my eyes are shit. I wear glasses. and also investigate photo's further with a magnifying glass.



The second quote just made me laugh.

I just had avision of a fella with one normal hand, and one hand ala. cartoon style, like one of those big foam hands.


Thankfully mate, Jumbo only managed to flatten one of his fingers.
My brother didn't fare so well though.His P.J Barnum impression quickly turned into a Jessie Owen one when his mates didn't get what it said on their tickets.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #493 on: November 14, 2010, 01:18:43 pm »
Paddington 1936.....

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #494 on: November 18, 2010, 11:33:29 am »
'Football specials' waiting in Walton Breck Road, 1949..


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #495 on: November 18, 2010, 07:52:40 pm »
^^^ Right at the back of the Sandon.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #496 on: November 18, 2010, 10:03:57 pm »
The Kop in 1970...

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=73925

..and  getting down those steps on the way out 1972...

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=73643

Mesmerising images those.  Thanks for sharing them.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #497 on: November 18, 2010, 10:54:22 pm »
Discovered this here the other week. There's a few more pics there as well.

American Soldiers, the original Dough Boys, marching through Liverpool during the first world war.


I can't quite make out the name of the restaurant behind them to try and position it. Tsar?



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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #498 on: November 19, 2010, 01:28:39 am »
Gulleysucker, I can't actually see a name on the place.


Ths shop to the left says:


wholesale          dealers
BAMBOO ?? MANUFACTURERS.         


At least it looks like bamboo, although I could be wrong.




The shop on the right, what I can actually make out, says:


BED AND BREAKFAST       l     SINGLE BED ??   (possibly  -  APPARTMENTS - but it goes behind the lampost.)
                                        l
?? PER VISIT                    l                6' PER VISIT


    R    S  T  A  U  R  A  N  T

The smaller writing between the larger writing, I can't make out.
But I can't actually see a name.

There is avery, very feint name above the left shop, but too bad to make out. Like the name has been painted and removed, or painted over.



If you look through that whole series of five pictures, there's a pic of a soldier shaking hands with a woman(small girl in the front).

In the background there is definately a street sign, up high on the building behind, but you would never see it unless you've got some super-duper FBI style, video recognition software to clean up the image.


.......................... any RAWKites work for the FBI ?    :D
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #499 on: November 19, 2010, 09:53:54 am »
No Richie, but I've got a sister works for the Gas board.....

@ Gulley...the stuff of headaches the whereabouts of those pics mate.
Clues;           a) the road had a tram system running along it.
                     b) the buildings were a mix of crap housing and small businesses.
           
Assumptions; a) That the troops are 'coming' and not 'going'
                      b) That they are walking slightly uphill.
                      c) That they aren't too far away from town (Pier Head).

There weren't many tram routes that would fit the bill - Park Lane and Islington fit the housing/shops uphill description, although I can't say I'm happy with either.
That pic with the woman holding the child's hand is dated 22nd. Oct, and what with the shadows cast by the sun, can anyone hazard a guess about which direction the troops are heading?

                       
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #500 on: November 19, 2010, 10:08:56 am »

Like Richie I spotted the 'Bamboo manufacturers' sign and sort of vaguely hoped you might have an address for it in your book.
But yes, tricky ones to try and locate.
They seem to be marching up a slope in the middle photo and the tramlines in the road do suggest only a handful of possible locations.
I'll have a root round and see if I can find out where they would be billeted, it might give a clue as to the route, assuming that's where they were marching to.
I think I read something years ago that US troops had been billeted at Aintree in the 1st WW, but that seems a bit of a way to march, I would have thought they'd have got on the old Cheshire Lines via Exchange-Seaforth and gone up to Aintree Junction to get there on a troop special.
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« Reply #501 on: November 19, 2010, 11:07:11 am »
I've had a look in a couple of directories, Gulley, trouble is they're from 1908 and 1938, and neither of them list a 'bamboo manufacturer'. I've also trawled up and down both sides of Park Lane and Islington.
On the billeting of the troops, on those Getty images there's a few that have them as guests of the YMCA, which was located in Mount Pleasant. The YM also has the Liverpool Gymnasium in Myrtle St. which was requisitioned for the same purpose.
There were also purpose built wooden huts in Knotty Ash - Queens Drive/Prescot Road junction;

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« Reply #502 on: November 19, 2010, 11:24:04 am »
......by the way, in case you're asking yourself re my earlier post,  'what shadows?' I was mixing up similar Getty images - I meant this one


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #503 on: November 19, 2010, 04:19:32 pm »
To be fair, the tram lines are a good clue.
As for walking uphill. With the exception of the dock road in either direction. From the Pierhead, pretty much every other route is uphill.

Just as aside, it could also be a case that the soldiers were marching to either Lime St or Exchange stations, for further onwards travel. Although, none of the buildings in the photo's would suit the geography of the centre of town.

The gradient of the slope would suggest somewhere like, Islington, London Rd, Brownlow Hill etc.

If you look at the dirction of the sun/shaddows, I would say that they are definately heading in the direction of one of those thoroughfares.



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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #504 on: November 20, 2010, 09:32:37 am »
I'm sure I spotted Vic Gill in one them.
No doubt he'll be able to tell us what year.

You Twat  :lmao
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #505 on: November 20, 2010, 12:22:39 pm »
This is a great thread. Thanks to everyone who has uploaded the photo's.

I have always loved looking at old photo's. I often wonder what happened to the people in the photgraph. What was there life like etc.

The expressions in peoples faces the joy, the pain and anguish the looks provide a reality of what the times were like.

These photo's are true history, I would hate to look back in 100 years when most photgraphs are photo choped or what the fuck they call it these days.

Wonderful thread  :wellin

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« Reply #506 on: November 20, 2010, 03:39:39 pm »
I'm with you on this Oldie - I love the pics of old and mainly long lost buildings, and how the scenery has change - but bottom line is the people who existed in these scenes.

My own favourite is this shot of dockers outside the much photographed Custom House..so much so I've got a 15in by 10in copy of it on the wall. Love the attitude on display....

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #507 on: November 21, 2010, 09:49:31 am »
This overhead landscape shot takes a few seconds for you to get your bearings, no exact date, but obviously from before May 1941!

 
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« Reply #508 on: November 23, 2010, 09:07:39 am »
John Brodie - the goal nets fella - outside his house at 28 Ullet Road. It's got a blue plaque on it now.

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« Reply #509 on: November 23, 2010, 09:12:47 am »
One I haven't seen before...the tram stop outside the Adelphi
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« Reply #510 on: November 23, 2010, 10:04:18 am »
Amazing - where do all these photo's come from ?

I like the Liver Birds on to of the tram stop .
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« Reply #511 on: November 23, 2010, 02:06:46 pm »
This overhead landscape shot takes a few seconds for you to get your bearings, no exact date, but obviously from before May 1941!

 

This one is fantastic with the unfinished cathedral in the background.

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« Reply #512 on: November 23, 2010, 02:44:22 pm »
I've had a look in a couple of directories, Gulley, trouble is they're from 1908 and 1938, and neither of them list a 'bamboo manufacturer'. I've also trawled up and down both sides of Park Lane and Islington.
On the billeting of the troops, on those Getty images there's a few that have them as guests of the YMCA, which was located in Mount Pleasant. The YM also has the Liverpool Gymnasium in Myrtle St. which was requisitioned for the same purpose.
There were also purpose built wooden huts in Knotty Ash - Queens Drive/Prescot Road junction;



When I went to Old Swan Tech, Thomas Lane (Knotty Ash) was where we played our home games, I remember getting changed in a hut like that.

absolutely love looking at all these old pics, thanks to you all who post them
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« Reply #513 on: November 23, 2010, 07:17:39 pm »
Amazing - where do all these photo's come from ?

I like the Liver Birds on to of the tram stop .

It amazing  how far into the middle of the road the stop is....this one shows that a bit better;

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« Reply #514 on: November 23, 2010, 07:41:33 pm »
I've probably said it before but I'll say it again, I love these old photos. I would definitely like to buy a book or two containing some of them - it's fascinating to see how particular areas have changed but still have recognisable features, road shapes, buildings etc etc.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #515 on: November 23, 2010, 08:01:29 pm »
A load more from the 60's and 70's here ...  http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44843738&cr=7 by Harry Ainscough

Go down to the end for the Christmas Lights ones.

and a few here .... http://www.francisfrith.com/liverpool/photos/41/
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« Reply #516 on: November 24, 2010, 08:27:02 am »
A load more from the 60's and 70's here ...  http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=44843738&cr=7 by Harry Ainscough

Go down to the end for the Christmas Lights ones.

and a few here .... http://www.francisfrith.com/liverpool/photos/41/

The number of photo's in the top link is incredible.Could make a book out of those photo's alone .Almost spooky how quiet the streets are , with hardly a car in sight .

Also amazing how some parts of the city have remained the same whilst others are unrecognisable,
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #517 on: November 24, 2010, 10:26:48 am »
Gulley and Bob - it's a cracking site that and gets regularly updated, just find it a pity it won't let you enlarge the photies.

Anyway here's one of those 'then and now' efforts....the Metropolitan cathedral in both shots.




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« Reply #518 on: November 28, 2010, 11:18:40 am »
The 'overhead' with coach no.7 on duty...and what looks like an identical version (no.3) that will be going on display at the new Liverpool Museum when it opens next summer.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #519 on: November 28, 2010, 05:16:11 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwat0KXWxMg

i done a mathew street vid. i had a job looking for older photos but hey.

i'm thinking of borrowing some photos from this thread, will that be ok. any suggestions what music i could use? 
can i have my old name back please?