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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #200 on: August 22, 2013, 01:07:01 pm »
I think something that Yorky said about Villa in the ‘Stoke Round Table’ thread sums up my prevailing feeling about this one:

They played a team of demoralised pussy-cats on Saturday. Liverpool will be harder for them. Much harder.

I get the disappointment about the transfer window to date, I genuinely do. I have worries about that too. My way to deal with those worries has been to concentrate on what we’ve got. And what we’ve got is looking better every time I see it.

Will that trend continue on Saturday? I’m certain that it will to some extent. I expect us to be quick, aggressive and positive, as we were against Stoke. Whether that‘ll be enough for the three points, whether we’ll be ruthless (at both ends), those are the question marks, but all you can really do is put yourself in a position to win the game and I’m confident we’ll do that.

Benteke is very good, unquestionably, and Agbonlahor is in excellent form, but having played our way through the obstinate, massed defensive ranks of Stoke on Saturday time and time again, I’m certain that Sturridge, Coutinho, Aspas, Sterling or whoever else features will get plenty of opportunities in this one. Take a few of them, and we’ll win. We might not keep a clean sheet, but we might not have to.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #201 on: August 22, 2013, 01:18:54 pm »
Much harder game than Stoke as Villa despite being robbed last night are on the up and Lambert is starting to rebuild that side.

Thank god Toure is playing because Benteke clearly isn't a one season wonder.

Still think possession is they key to starve Villa so I'd bring in Allen as I can't see Villa relying on a physical game.

Very close and this will be real test for Rodgers tactically because pushing a highline against Benteke and Agbongthingy will be very risky.

Not to sound negative but a draw wouldn't be bad result.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #202 on: August 22, 2013, 01:25:39 pm »
The sort of game i think we have to win. i know we're away and villa are looking decent, well at least threatening infront of goal, but if we wan't that 4th spot this is the sort of away game we need to get the 3 points from.

If we miss as many chances as we did against Stoke  we may have a problem because i can see them scoring in this game. Im going with 2-1, Sturridge and Toure to score

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #203 on: August 22, 2013, 01:26:43 pm »
I reckon, Villa will try to play us exactly the way they did against us last season at Anfield. It's our job to combat that. We did, at their gaff, at the end of last season. So this looks like a good test for us, and a chance to look at what progress has been made.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #204 on: August 22, 2013, 01:32:06 pm »
If our defense doesn't commit any silly mistakes, I am confident we will win
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #205 on: August 22, 2013, 01:37:15 pm »
An actual quote people

"I think we are at about the same level as Liverpool so I think this will be very close."

2 games into the season, nice to see they're not getting carried away.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #206 on: August 22, 2013, 01:38:29 pm »
An actual quote people

"I think we are at about the same level as Liverpool so I think this will be very close."

2 games into the season, nice to see they're not getting carried away.

Lets hope we bring them crashing back to earth then  ;)
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #207 on: August 22, 2013, 01:40:15 pm »
Lets hope we bring them crashing back to earth then  ;)
We only finished 20 points above them last season but yeah they're deffo on our level.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #208 on: August 22, 2013, 01:40:27 pm »
Villa are obviously incredible on the counter, and to try and control the game would be suicide. We have to force Villa to control the game and try to counter ourselves, accepting that a draw is not a disaster considering how dangerous they actually are. Their main threat is Benteke with Agbonlahor and Weimann on either side and we have to set up to nullify them.
 
First and foremost, a 4-2-3-1 rather than a 4-3-3 would in my opinion fit this game because we need two at the base constantly in between Benteke and their central midfield. Looking at how Chelsea played in the first half against Villa, Ramires and Lampard were incredibly disciplined to make sure that any pressure put on Villa's central midfield came from the area in between them and Benteke, constantly forcing them to pass out wide rather than look for the direct pass to Benteke. However, Lampard eventually got complacent and Villa punished them for it (and could have done it more than once), and I'm worried Gerrard will make the same mistake. Lucas being on song will be crucial. That, for me, is how you nullify Benteke combined with a man marking of him that I will get to later.
 
Their second very dangerous threat is Agbonlahor. He may not seem like all that, but against both Chelsea and Arsenal he had a tendency to come quite deep losing his full back to the receive the ball, turn and run at a static defense causing havoc. To counter this, in my opinion, Johnson has to man mark him whenever Villa are in possession. This will nullify Johnson's attacking threat but first and foremost he's a defender and that has to be the priority. To give Agbonlahor that extra yard to gain pace is suicide, and we may very well get punished even if it only happens once.
 
As for our three in behind Sturridge (provided we do play 4-2-3-1), they have to be very mobile. If we play with a constant nr 10, like Chelsea did with Oscar during large parts, Delph will nullify him as he did with Oscar. The times Chelsea did in fact control the game and look threatening was when Mata/Oscar/Hazard interchanged freely and our front three will have to do the same, at least two of them. Even if Coutinho, as good as he is, plays as a constant nr 10 I wouldn't put it past Delph to man mark him out of the game, and if we are to play on the counter we can not afford it.
 
As for marking, our midfield will have to play a very disciplined zonal marking (Lucas/Gerrard in front of their central midfield regardless of other movements, our three behind Sturridge providing pressure on their back line) to force them out wide as that is where we have the best chance of handling them. Our back four, however, will have to man mark. Johnson on Agbonlahor has been mentioned, and Enrique will have to keep a close eye on Weimann constantly. But the real threat is if we let Benteke target Agger, as he probably will try to do. Kolo Toure is our best bet for handling Benteke and he will have to be right next to him during all times, even if Lucas/Gerrard manage to do their job well. This will also free Agger to help Enrique with Weimann as the spaniard is prone to concentration lapses.
 
This will force Villa to play long, often an early cross from their full backs. I believe Enrique with the help of Agger will be able to handle their right flank very well but Agbonlahor will be able to outpace Johnson during long runs so it will be crucial we have a player there to make sure their left back isn't capable of providing balls for those runs. For me, that player is Henderson. He will be the exception to the interchanging in our three behind Sturridge (two interchanging will be enough so that Delph can't man mark) as he will have to be on our right side to help out Johnson at all times.
 
If we manage to keep it up for 90 minutes I believe we will be able to nullify Villa completely, albeit sacrificing quite a bit of attacking threat. We have to be clinical to get the three points but even then, like I said, a draw will not be a disaster.
 
Starting XI for me:
 
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Johnson Toure Agger Enrique
Gerrard Lucas
Henderson Aspas Coutinho
Sturridge

Henderson constant in his right sided role as mentioned, with Aspas/Coutinho/Sturridge moving about as much as possible to at times overload Delph but also sometimes leave him without a man to mark (Aspas moving forward making it a 4-4-2).
 
I'm not that worried. Villa are a counter attacking side, if we force them to be in charge and sit back I think we can handle them. Coutinho/Sturridge are also very effective on the counter.
 
It'll be an interesting game, either way.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #209 on: August 22, 2013, 01:46:02 pm »
Them having the game midweek should help us. They played exactly the same side (afaik), 80 minutes into Saturdays game that might matter.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #210 on: August 22, 2013, 01:47:54 pm »
Villa are obviously incredible on the counter, and to try and control the game would be suicide.
They are not Real its no suicide at all they are Villa Jesus.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #211 on: August 22, 2013, 01:49:47 pm »
Villa are obviously incredible on the counter, and to try and control the game would be suicide. We have to force Villa to control the game and try to counter ourselves, accepting that a draw is not a disaster considering how dangerous they actually are. Their main threat is Benteke with Agbonlahor and Weimann on either side and we have to set up to nullify them.
 
First and foremost, a 4-2-3-1 rather than a 4-3-3 would in my opinion fit this game because we need two at the base constantly in between Benteke and their central midfield. Looking at how Chelsea played in the first half against Villa, Ramires and Lampard were incredibly disciplined to make sure that any pressure put on Villa's central midfield came from the area in between them and Benteke, constantly forcing them to pass out wide rather than look for the direct pass to Benteke. However, Lampard eventually got complacent and Villa punished them for it (and could have done it more than once), and I'm worried Gerrard will make the same mistake. Lucas being on song will be crucial. That, for me, is how you nullify Benteke combined with a man marking of him that I will get to later.
 
Their second very dangerous threat is Agbonlahor. He may not seem like all that, but against both Chelsea and Arsenal he had a tendency to come quite deep losing his full back to the receive the ball, turn and run at a static defense causing havoc. To counter this, in my opinion, Johnson has to man mark him whenever Villa are in possession. This will nullify Johnson's attacking threat but first and foremost he's a defender and that has to be the priority. To give Agbonlahor that extra yard to gain pace is suicide, and we may very well get punished even if it only happens once.
 
As for our three in behind Sturridge (provided we do play 4-2-3-1), they have to be very mobile. If we play with a constant nr 10, like Chelsea did with Oscar during large parts, Delph will nullify him as he did with Oscar. The times Chelsea did in fact control the game and look threatening was when Mata/Oscar/Hazard interchanged freely and our front three will have to do the same, at least two of them. Even if Coutinho, as good as he is, plays as a constant nr 10 I wouldn't put it past Delph to man mark him out of the game, and if we are to play on the counter we can not afford it.
 
As for marking, our midfield will have to play a very disciplined zonal marking (Lucas/Gerrard in front of their central midfield regardless of other movements, our three behind Sturridge providing pressure on their back line) to force them out wide as that is where we have the best chance of handling them. Our back four, however, will have to man mark. Johnson on Agbonlahor has been mentioned, and Enrique will have to keep a close eye on Weimann constantly. But the real threat is if we let Benteke target Agger, as he probably will try to do. Kolo Toure is our best bet for handling Benteke and he will have to be right next to him during all times, even if Lucas/Gerrard manage to do their job well. This will also free Agger to help Enrique with Weimann as the spaniard is prone to concentration lapses.
 
This will force Villa to play long, often an early cross from their full backs. I believe Enrique with the help of Agger will be able to handle their right flank very well but Agbonlahor will be able to outpace Johnson during long runs so it will be crucial we have a player there to make sure their left back isn't capable of providing balls for those runs. For me, that player is Henderson. He will be the exception to the interchanging in our three behind Sturridge (two interchanging will be enough so that Delph can't man mark) as he will have to be on our right side to help out Johnson at all times.
 
If we manage to keep it up for 90 minutes I believe we will be able to nullify Villa completely, albeit sacrificing quite a bit of attacking threat. We have to be clinical to get the three points but even then, like I said, a draw will not be a disaster.
 
Starting XI for me:
 
Mignolet
Johnson Toure Agger Enrique
Gerrard Lucas
Henderson Aspas Coutinho
Sturridge

Henderson constant in his right sided role as mentioned, with Aspas/Coutinho/Sturridge moving about as much as possible to at times overload Delph but also sometimes leave him without a man to mark (Aspas moving forward making it a 4-4-2).
 
I'm not that worried. Villa are a counter attacking side, if we force them to be in charge and sit back I think we can handle them. Coutinho/Sturridge are also very effective on the counter.
 
It'll be an interesting game, either way.

good post.

I think it will be dangerous to sit back, but you may be correct in your assertion that its probably the best way to nullify them.

I would like to suggest that we just go out and play our game, but I agree that if benteke isolates any of them they could well kill us.

Interesting measure this game, been very impressed with Villa so far, should be a good game.

We are good on the counter as well offensively just not sure we are solid enough as a defensive unit to play that game properly.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #212 on: August 22, 2013, 01:51:06 pm »
Villa operated heavily down their left against Chelsea probably because of the good form of Agbonlahor and his pace for counter attacking. Perhaps something to be wary of.



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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #213 on: August 22, 2013, 01:53:47 pm »
They are not Real its no suicide at all they are Villa Jesus.
True, to sit back would be suicide imo. We have to play our game and prove we can dominate them.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #214 on: August 22, 2013, 01:54:09 pm »
If we play on the counter in this one then I would much prefer to see Raheem out there than Aspas; not only is he due some playing time but I just think his raw pace against their left back would prove to be quite handy to have. Nowt against Aspas of course, he could prove to be a very good sub to throw on if we need a goal. I agree with a lot of the posters who think we should sit a touch deeper in this one and let them try and break us down. If we go too gung ho then their front 3 will be stood waiting for a long ball from Guzan if we lose possession high up the field. This should be a good test for Toure and his positional abilities, as well as for Agger's speed across the pitch. Johnno could be quite high profile in this one too.

The big question for me though is does Brendan go for Enrique or Cisshoko at left back? Personally I would prefer to see Enrique for his experience in the PL, although Aly is more than handy enough too. Would be fascinating to see him against the Villa right back. Should be a good game, but no way will Villa have as easy a ride as they did at the weekend. Plus they have played midweek, which can only help us.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #215 on: August 22, 2013, 02:15:16 pm »
I think playing them at there ground is pretty good for us. They'll be buoyed by there opening games but at villa and having been encouraged by the start they have made, they'll come at us a little bit. The likes of coutinho and sturridge on the counter will worry them. Coutinho can pick it up and thread it through in seconds and sturridge has that pace power and finishing to put them to bed. It will be a tough one but i'm confident we have the quality.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #216 on: August 22, 2013, 02:18:19 pm »
These should be a lot more fatigued than us after 2 difficult away games in the space of 3 days. Hopefully we'll take advantage of that.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #217 on: August 22, 2013, 02:26:37 pm »
They are not Real its no suicide at all they are Villa Jesus.
The lad's right though. Villa are good on the counter. They walloped us at Anfield by playing that way last season. They came unglued at home, when they tried to attack us and we hit them on the break. They won't have forgot that. They'll invite us on and try to spring counter attacks. I'm looking forward to this one. I'd go if I could. As I said earlier, I think it will be a really good test of what progress we are making under Brendan.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #218 on: August 22, 2013, 02:43:18 pm »
The lad's right though. Villa are good on the counter. They walloped us at Anfield by playing that way last season. They came unglued at home, when they tried to attack us and we hit them on the break. They won't have forgot that. They'll invite us on and try to spring counter attacks. I'm looking forward to this one. I'd go if I could. As I said earlier, I think it will be a really good test of what progress we are making under Brendan.

I'm not sure but weren't we missing Lucas that game? He'll definitely be a big a plus against those counters.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #219 on: August 22, 2013, 02:46:54 pm »
I'm not sure but weren't we missing Lucas that game? He'll definitely be a big a plus against those counters.
Can't remember the line up now, and I was at the game. I only went to two last season... Villa home, Southampton away. Think I best stay away. But I remember Benteke ragging us on the break. I'm sure it won't be so easy for him this time round, especially if Lucas is protecting Toure. Still, I think it will be a good yardstick, and a result would do the team's confidence good, especially at this early stage.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #220 on: August 22, 2013, 02:53:35 pm »
Hum, lots of rose tinted glasses on here.

Last season we played against a disorganised team who were good at 2 things: letting in goals and hitting on the counter. They sat deep at ours and hit us hard and fast on the counter, almost like they'd been watching tape of the opening day defeat to WBA and had decided to copy that. We didn't take any of our 28 shots (only 8  on target) until SG knocks on in with 3 mins left on the clock.

We then went back to their when they were down in the bottom 3, took a goal from Benteke before Couthino played in Hendo for the 1st & Suarez went down for a penalty for the second. You may have forgotten Agbonlahor shooting at Reina when it was easier to miss him or Gerrard heading it off the line from Benteke or a good handful of very decent scoring opportunities Villa made. You could say we deserved the win but I remember it as a sluggish enough result that highlighted our profligacy yet again (only 7 of our 23 shots on target) and left no doubt that a decent scoring coach would probably be as valuable to the club as a new player.

This year's Villa are a better team than the one we played last year.

Ok, so are we, you'd argue but so far in pre-season and their 2 games I've see another squad who are trying to get tougher to break down and are only getting better going forward against a team that's definitely added a lot of skill but seems unable to convert many of the numerous chances we're making.

Arsenal tried to play pretty football and got torn apart and Chelsea, while not particularly exciting just now, are definitely a tough unit to beat, got the win off a deflected own goal and some very favourable decisions from Kevin Friend. We had to pray that our new keeper could save a penalty to get all the points on the opening day against a unit with a lot less talent than Villa are showing now.

You have to win games like this if you want into CL football next season. I'm certain we can do it, but not if we let their keeper have another MotM performance and get merked on the break by their front 3. We'll create chances, that's for sure, but we have to take them if we're serious about progressing and not fannying about to another 7th place finish.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #221 on: August 22, 2013, 02:55:05 pm »
Anyone watching the press conference? The Guardian say Brendan's a little pissed off. Is that true or are they reading too much into it?
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #222 on: August 22, 2013, 02:55:33 pm »
Can't remember the line up now, and I was at the game. I only went to two last season... Villa home, Southampton away. Think I best stay away. But I remember Benteke ragging us on the break. I'm sure it won't be so easy for him this time round, especially if Lucas is protecting Toure. Still, I think it will be a good yardstick, and a result would do the team's confidence good, especially at this early stage.

This will definitely be a chance to see if we have come very far tactically.  We won't have Suarez to bail us out if we get into a tough spot like down 1-0 early.  I think we all know how Villa will approach the game at this point so let's see if we can play our game without allowing them those breaks. 

Villa have a seriously tough start though these first three games in 8 days.  They will probably be happy with 3 points though so let's keep them right there!

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #223 on: August 22, 2013, 03:05:39 pm »
Anyone watching the press conference? The Guardian say Brendan's a little pissed off. Is that true or are they reading too much into it?
anyone got a link to this?

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« Reply #224 on: August 22, 2013, 03:09:09 pm »
Anyone watching the press conference? The Guardian say Brendan's a little pissed off. Is that true or are they reading too much into it?

Absolutely reading too much into it... was a very normal press conference. He expressed disappointment but no anger there.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #225 on: August 22, 2013, 03:18:31 pm »
Benteke, Weimann and Agbonlahor will be a handful.

Hope we've learn from last time (and the Arsenal result will keep us grounded too). Think Kolo will be key.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #226 on: August 22, 2013, 03:27:07 pm »
Absolutely reading too much into it... was a very normal press conference. He expressed disappointment but no anger there.

Ah. Good to know. Cheers.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #227 on: August 22, 2013, 03:28:29 pm »
The lad's right though. Villa are good on the counter. They walloped us at Anfield by playing that way last season. They came unglued at home, when they tried to attack us and we hit them on the break. They won't have forgot that. They'll invite us on and try to spring counter attacks. I'm looking forward to this one. I'd go if I could. As I said earlier, I think it will be a really good test of what progress we are making under Brendan.
You could say that about any team i mean even Stoke hit us on counter once and nearly ended badly for us. Yet these are risk we have to take some time, unless there keeper has world class day i can see us winning this one.

As good a villa are we are better and we shouldn't be scared to play are game. The more we keep worrying about other teams pros and focusing too much on a are cons, we will end at stand still.

This does not mean we shouldn't be wary of them on counter like we should be with all the teams as we play bit more of higher line, but at same time we shouldn't over hype teams like they are world best.

When Villa beat us last year we should of had the game won way before that, so in my opinion we should play are game but just be wary of counter.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #228 on: August 22, 2013, 03:30:30 pm »
You could say that about any team i mean even Stoke hit us on counter once and nearly ended badly for us. Yet these are risk we have to take some time, unless there keeper has world class day i can see us winning this one.

As good a villa are we are better and we shouldn't be scared to play are game. The more we keep worrying about other teams pros and focusing too much on a are cons, we will end at stand still.

This does not mean we shouldn't be wary of them on counter like we should be with all the teams as we play bit more of higher line, but at same time we shouldn't over hype teams like they are world best.

When Villa beat us last year we should of had the game won way before that, so in my opinion we should play are game but just be wary of counter.

I have no doubt that we'll play our own game. I just hope we see a bit of balance with that "tactical discipline" Rodgers strives for.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #229 on: August 22, 2013, 03:33:03 pm »
i think it will be a difficult game in that like Arsenal to an extent we set up very well for Villa. possession based teams that try and play high and this gives them room to counter. i do believe we need to be careful where we lose the ball.
that said if we can get ahead then they are not the best at a high line

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #230 on: August 22, 2013, 03:35:28 pm »
Them having the game midweek should help us. They played exactly the same side (afaik), 80 minutes into Saturdays game that might matter.

Or you could look at that the other way and say the extra midweek game may have benefitted them in terms of match fitness, especially at this early stage of the season.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #231 on: August 22, 2013, 04:12:26 pm »
If we double our conversion rate to 1 in 14 then we'll be fine. Toure will boss Benteke.. key risk is around Johnson for me. He's faster than Ivanovic but just think that he wont be able to join the attack as much as usual. Playing Henderson on the right gives us extra mobility and pressing which I think could be useful too.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #232 on: August 22, 2013, 04:24:27 pm »
What I noticed was a lot of Villa attacks against Arsenal came from Arsenal being sloppy on the ball in midfield and Villa breaking, Delph's shot that hit the post for example, came from Wilshere trying to turn in his own half. These have the potential to become a bogey team for us, big man up front with pace supporting him. Honestly, it could go pear shaped in this game for us but its the start of the season and its our year after all... 2-1 Liverpool

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #233 on: August 22, 2013, 04:47:32 pm »
Can't remember the line up now, and I was at the game. I only went to two last season... Villa home, Southampton away. Think I best stay away. But I remember Benteke ragging us on the break. I'm sure it won't be so easy for him this time round, especially if Lucas is protecting Toure. Still, I think it will be a good yardstick, and a result would do the team's confidence good, especially at this early stage.

was Sothampton away where lucas pulled up in the warm up wasn't it?

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #234 on: August 22, 2013, 04:50:06 pm »
Villa operated heavily down their left against Chelsea probably because of the good form of Agbonlahor and his pace for counter attacking. Perhaps something to be wary of.



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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #235 on: August 22, 2013, 04:50:55 pm »
Lets hope we bring them crashing back to earth then  ;)
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #236 on: August 22, 2013, 04:58:34 pm »
Villa have been pretty impressive, so not going to be sounding off about how shite they are.

However, I am still confident we will win, boils down to keeping Benteke quiet and us taking our chances.

Same team as last week I say, mon the reds.


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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #237 on: August 22, 2013, 05:14:26 pm »
Continho is definitely going to play some stunning through balls, it's just whether we can be clinical this time; I felt Henderson really should of scored his chance (not the one where he hit the post), good save by Begovic but he had enough time to slot that away. We have to score those chances.
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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #238 on: August 22, 2013, 05:22:12 pm »
They're dangerous on the break I think we will have a lot of heart in mouth moments. I think we will score more than them though. Best way to play these is not take risks when all our players are forward because if they do break we will struggle.

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Re: Rawk Preview: Aston Villa v Liverpool, Saturday 24th August
« Reply #239 on: August 22, 2013, 05:24:43 pm »
Villa team will be as follows:

                          Guzan,

Lowton        Okore         Vlaar         Luna
   
          Westwood            Delph,

Weimann         El Ahmadi       Gabby
                 
                         Benteke.

For me, the game will be won by fullbacks. Agbonlahor is a threat if he occupies Johnson, that would severely hamper our attacks. You can see in most games how much he's used high up the pitch. The same is not true for Enrique, who will have Lowton and Weimann to contend with. I dont know too much about Luna, but Okore is seen as a difficult centreback.

It will be an interesting game, some of their supporters think that they can even REST Weimann, after his impressive games against Arsenal and Chelsea. So in terms of freshness, we should be all over them like a rash. higher tempo than them, be mindful of the counter attack and strong against benteke.
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