Author Topic: Liverpool All-Time Draft Chat Thread. (Read 138235 times)

The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society · « **Reply #1640 on:** January 24, 2009, 09:56:49 pm »

Quote from: kesey on January 24, 2009, 09:55:57 pm

Quick learner.

Bastard!

Iam completey baffled to be honest.

Bastard!

did you take a look at the other thread?

this one - http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=235851.0

lfcderek · « **Reply #1641 on:** January 24, 2009, 09:57:46 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on January 24, 2009, 09:52:55 pm

He can play both wings? What are you gonna do with Heighway?

Play him on the right and move Brian Hall inside. Mike Marsh's best position was RB IMO.

BTW, you pick in front of me next.
Don't turn nasty on me.

royhendo · « **Reply #1642 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:01:16 pm »

Quote from: lfcderek on January 24, 2009, 09:57:46 pm

Play him on the right and move Brian Hall inside. Mike Marsh's best position was RB IMO.

BTW, you pick in front of me next.
Don't turn nasty on me.

Hell hath no fury like a frustrated draftsman...

Fantastic pick I have to say. He sounds like he was a genuine superstar of his time.

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #1643 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:05:57 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on January 24, 2009, 09:52:55 pm

He can play both wings? What are you gonna do with Heighway?

When Steve Heighway played amateur football he was a flying left winger for Skelmersdale United in the late 1960's. I was about 12-13 years old at the time and we used to watch Skem all the time. We used to stand up against the railings of that tight little ground watching Heighway tear the opposing full back to pieces, just a few feet away, and I mean pieces. He was lightning quick. Considering that he went from Skem practially into Liverpool's first team gives you an idea just how much he mullered to opposing defence.

Once, in 1969 I think it was, we went to watch Skem play in the Amateur Cup quarter finals away at Enfield in north London. We were losing 1-0 when Heighway picked the ball up in field and on a pitch deep in mud, hit one from about 25 yards which flew into the net. Shortly after they took him off and that was the last time he ever played for Skem. We went on to win the game 2-1.

kesey · « **Reply #1644 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:09:50 pm »

Quote from: The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society on January 24, 2009, 09:56:49 pm

did you take a look at the other thread?

this one - http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=235851.0

Yes.

Me heads all full of dhukka mate. Ill have to have a long hard look and see what players are left.

royhendo · « **Reply #1645 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

Dick Forshaw selected. Am gutted about Derek's pick though and I shall have my vengeance.

Billy The Kid · « **Reply #1646 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:11:54 pm »

Oooh, this is nice timing, I've just logged on and roy has just posted,

Does this mean I'm up?

Sarge · « **Reply #1647 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:12:21 pm »

ROUND 12.

Bill Hicks    David Thompson
Phil M Colin Irwin.
Terry De Niro    Bob Bolder.
Ackbaria    Neil Mellor.
Sarge    Steve Harkness.
gav-    Joe McQue
LF    Boudewijn Zenden.
STORMTROOPER    Matt McQueen.
Shanks1965    Tony Hateley.
Superthing Mark Gonzalez
Barney_Rubble    Jack Parkinson
Claire Bjorn Tore Kvarme.
lfcderek    Berry Nieuwenhuys
royhendo Dick Forshaw
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Billy The Kid
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lfcderek · « **Reply #1648 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:12:58 pm »

One of the grat things about Heighway was his consistency. I was brought up on Peter Thompson who on his day was - well un-playable. But he did have his off days.

Not very many of those fron Steve.

Sarge · « **Reply #1649 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:14:33 pm »

Quote from: Shanks1965 on January 24, 2009, 09:49:08 pm

Actually this is THE best thread I've ever seen on RAWK so top marks to Sarge and the others that have helped him with it. It's going to be a monster once the voting starts and the information for the younger supporters on our great players from the recent and distant past is a great way to educate people.

I take my hat of to you Sarge, a fantastic effort.

Quote from: The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society on January 24, 2009, 09:34:02 pm

I'd probably say this is my favourite and most addictive thread of all time on RAWK. Nice timing sarge I've 2000 words to do for my dissertation by Wednesday morning

Cheers lads but i'm having a great time and i just hope RAWK joins in the voting now.

Sarge · « **Reply #1650 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:17:42 pm »

Billy The Kid

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ROUND 13.

Billy The Kid
royhendo
lfcderek
Claire
Barney_Rubble
Superthing
Shanks1965
STORMTROOPER
LF
gav-
Sarge
Ackbaria
Terry De Niro
Phil M
Bill Hicks

Sarge · « **Reply #1651 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:18:53 pm »

Quote from: lfcderek on January 24, 2009, 10:12:58 pm

One of the grat things about Heighway was his consistency. I was brought up on Peter Thompson who on his day was - well un-playable. But he did have his off days.

Not very many of those fron Steve.

Yes when he palyed for Ireland.

royhendo · « **Reply #1652 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:19:23 pm »

Take your time Billy! I had another nightmare courtesy of Derek

Manager: Evans

Friedel

Dunlop Agger Raisbeck Ziege

McDermott Sissoko Stevenson

Forshaw Dalglish Bellamy

or...

Friedel

Dunlop Agger Raisbeck

Sissoko Stevenson

Forshaw McDermott Ziege

Dalglish Bellamy

Oh, and it's 4 Scotsmen so far Shanks mate... but it would have been one more in Warky if it hadn't been for them pesky kids!

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lfcderek · « **Reply #1653 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:23:40 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on January 24, 2009, 10:18:53 pm

Yes when he palyed for Ireland.

I'm not sure whether it was against NI or the republic but Peter Thompson had one of his un-stoppable days.

He totally skinned the RB.

They doubled up on him.

He totally skinned those two.

They sent another one over there.

There was so much space left elsewhere the rest of the team held a party.

Sarge · « **Reply #1654 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:25:13 pm »

Quote from: lfcderek on January 24, 2009, 10:23:40 pm

I'm not sure whether it was against NI or the republic but Peter Thompson had one of his un-stoppable days.

He totally skinned the RB.

They doubled up on him.

He totally skinned those two.

They sent another one over there.

There was so much space left elsewhere the rest of the team held a party.

Sorrry i was on about Heighway.

Billy The Kid · « **Reply #1655 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:25:32 pm »

Ok, I've gone for Arphexad as my sub goalie

and Stephen Darby as substitute defender

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #1656 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:26:32 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on January 24, 2009, 10:19:23 pm

Oh, and it's 4 Scotsmen so far Shanks mate... but it would have been one more in Warky if it hadn't been for them pesky kids!

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This is true.

My mate owns the red number 7 shirt that Kenny wore when he scored the winner in the European Cup final in 1978 at Wembley. He won it in a raffle for a £5 ticket. It's kept in a safety deposit box in a bank and when he dies he's going to get buried in it. Apparently, once someone offered him £20,000 for it.

lfcderek · « **Reply #1657 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:27:02 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on January 24, 2009, 10:19:23 pm

Take your time Billy! I had another nightmare courtesy of Derek

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If Forshaw has some pace then that 433 looks tasty.

Billy The Kid · « **Reply #1658 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:35:14 pm »

By the way, whats the plan for the voting Sarge?

Are we submitting our teams over on the main board for a poll vote?

The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society · « **Reply #1659 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:36:00 pm »

Anyone contacted the echo yet?

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #1660 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:36:09 pm »

Actually lads (and Claire) I've got a pretty good player for my first pick as sub. I'm actually amazed that he wasn't picked yet given some that have been. Can't wait to share it with you, he almost made my first 11.

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #1661 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:38:49 pm »

Quote from: The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society on January 24, 2009, 10:36:00 pm

Anyone contacted the echo yet?

Not yet but I'm going to. Might do it tomorrow before I leave for the game.

royhendo · « **Reply #1662 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:47:13 pm »

OK, just picked... honest... I didn't see that post on here a while ago...

Quote from: royhendo on January 24, 2009, 10:45:26 pm

We're moving fast now...

1st sub technically but possibly a first team pick, cos I hadn't looked into his background beforehand... not before the little 'extra' post on the chat thread an hour or two ago anyway.

Donald Mackinlay

Quotes and info taken from here:
http://www.lfchistory.net/player_articles_view.asp?article_id=2237&player_id=899

He captained Liverpool for seven years, including the successive titles in 1922 and 1923, and was an uncompromising defender who could play in multiple positions.

But not only that. He scored goals. In all he scored 34 goals in 434 games, which is none too shabby, and handily he scored a lot of goals from free kicks around the box. Last but not least... he once scored an Alonso-style pearler from ten yards inside his own half against West Ham.

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Leslie Edwards, the sports editor of the Liverpool Daily Post and Echo, saw the Liverpool greats first hand and he couldn't praise MacKinlay's abilities highly enough: "Don MacKinlay skippered Liverpool to their Championship in the 1920s. He appeared in half a dozen different positions but the thing I remember most was his skill with a free kick. If I was leaving with a message and Liverpool had been awarded a free kick, I would wait until it had been taken because I knew anything could happen. He hit the ball with terrific power but also had a remarkable touch."

Later, in 1922...

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"In the matter of shooting nothing is more remarkable than the way Donald McKinlay continues to score goals. He has scored from outside left, right back, left back, and left half-back, but in later seasons he has figured at left-back, and he has this season piloted a lot of free kicks beyond the goalkeeper. It must be a record for a full back not taking penalty kicks to have scored so many goals in a season in the ordinary run of play."

All of which means he'll make the right back slot his own and relegate Dunlop to the bench... or possibly Ziege - I'm not sure - Mackinlay played several seasons at left back too (as well as several midfield positions. It looks like someone is going to have to make way for this fella.

He'd also be the kind of leader Roy's teams were crying out for to add steel and tactical nous to the fancy-dannery. Here's a quote from him.

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"Generally today captains do not have sufficient reponsibility. It seems to me that all they do is to take the team out and toss the coin. There’s not enough directing and you hardly hear them shout instructions. In my day I had full control on the field and if there was any decision on changing of positions, I took it. I am speaking generally and not individually, but captains today are not what they used to be. I told my players: ‘If I have to say anything to you, answer me back and don’t start sulking’."

Last but not least, when asked to pick his World X1 after his career, he named one Bill Shankly in midfield (long before he took the manager's job at Anfield).

Sarge · « **Reply #1663 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:49:33 pm »

Quote from: Shanks1965 on January 24, 2009, 10:38:49 pm

Not yet but I'm going to. Might do it tomorrow before I leave for the game.

Go too the game, you'll do no such thing we got to finish this.

royhendo · « **Reply #1664 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:49:43 pm »

Quote from: Shanks1965 on January 24, 2009, 10:26:32 pm

This is true.

My mate owns the red number 7 shirt that Kenny wore when he scored the winner in the European Cup final in 1978 at Wembley. He won it in a raffle for a £5 ticket. It's kept in a safety deposit box in a bank and when he dies he's going to get buried in it. Apparently, once someone offered him £20,000 for it.

That's going in the 'quality posts you may have missed' thread mate!

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #1665 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:52:06 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on January 24, 2009, 10:49:33 pm

Go too the game, you'll do no such thing we got to finish this.

Quote from: The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society on January 24, 2009, 10:36:00 pm

Anyone contacted the echo yet?

Actually lads I've just sent the email to the Echo so lets see what happens.

Sarge · « **Reply #1666 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:52:17 pm »

lfcderek.

Danny Guthrie.

Sarge · « **Reply #1667 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:52:55 pm »

Quote from: Shanks1965 on January 24, 2009, 10:52:06 pm

Actually lads I've just sent the email to the Echo so lets see what happens.

The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society · « **Reply #1668 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:54:33 pm »

Ahferfucksake, Danny Guthrie was going to be my midfield sub and Mackinlay was gonna replace Aurelio on the left

royhendo · « **Reply #1669 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:55:12 pm »

Has anyone read the Nivvy scrap book entry by the way?

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #1670 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:55:40 pm »

Hurry up lads, I want to post my first sub and piss you all off.

Sarge · « **Reply #1671 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:57:09 pm »

ROUND 13.

Billy The Kid Stephen Darby.
royhendo Donald Mackinlay.
lfcderek Danny Guthrie.

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Claire
Barney_Rubble
Superthing
Shanks1965
STORMTROOPER
LF
gav-
Sarge
Ackbaria
Terry De Niro
Phil M
Bill Hicks

mbroon · « **Reply #1672 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:57:09 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on January 24, 2009, 10:52:17 pm

lfcderek.

Danny Guthrie.

Bollocks. He was going to be my substitute $:-\$

Anyways, I'd like to do like the others and thank you, Sarge, for a great job. It's been educational, challenging and entertaining.

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #1673 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:57:44 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on January 24, 2009, 10:55:12 pm

Has anyone read the Nivvy scrap book entry by the way?

I did mate, a quality read.

lfcderek · « **Reply #1674 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:58:03 pm »

My back up midfielder is

Danny Guthrie

Guthrie was released by Manchester United when he was at the tender age of 15. He made steady progress at Liverpool and finally was rewarded by a first team debut vs. Reading in the Carling Cup in October 2006. He is a good passer of the ball and a very attack minded player with an eye for goal.

Guthrie was loaned to Bolton in the 2007-2008 season and showed he was a Premier League player convincing Newcastle to buy him in the summer of 2008. The transfer, reported by Liverpool's website on 14th July, 2008 was believed to be for a fee of £2.25 million.

He only turns 22 in April and seems to improving steadily. Going to become a really good pro. Attack minded? - yes. But not afraid to get stuck in when required. Sad to see him go but he needed games. Seem to be saying that about a lot of youngsters.

Sarge - Could you add a pic for me. I wasn't aware of constraints on posting from History.Net.

Where do you get them from?

Sarge · « **Reply #1675 on:** January 24, 2009, 10:58:04 pm »

ROUND 13.

Billy The Kid    Stephen Darby.
royhendo    Donald Mackinlay.
lfcderek Danny Guthrie.

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Claire
Barney_Rubble
Superthing
Shanks1965
STORMTROOPER
LF
gav-
Sarge
Ackbaria
Terry De Niro
Phil M
Bill Hicks

royhendo · « **Reply #1676 on:** January 24, 2009, 11:02:53 pm »

I wasn't gonna say it until the end of the whole thing, but yeah, it's been a distinct pleasure this. I've learned stuff I never even remotely knew about the club's history, and got a lot of nice memories along the way. I reckon it's also fertile ground for some great posts by the way - I'm definitely planning one on Warky for starters.

Cheers to you all and Sarge in particular

Sarge · « **Reply #1677 on:** January 24, 2009, 11:03:54 pm »

ROUND 13.

Billy The Kid       Stephen Darby.
royhendo    Donald Mackinlay.
lfcderek Danny Guthrie.

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Claire
Barney_Rubble
Superthing
Shanks1965
STORMTROOPER
LF
gav-
Sarge
Ackbaria
Terry De Niro
Phil M
Bill Hicks

Sarge · « **Reply #1678 on:** January 24, 2009, 11:05:09 pm »

Not at all everyone it was a pleasure and i am a stickler. So,

We're not fucking finished yet,

Claire!!!!!!!!!!!!!

royhendo · « **Reply #1679 on:** January 24, 2009, 11:05:29 pm »

Quote from: Shanks1965 on January 24, 2009, 10:57:44 pm

I did mate, a quality read.

I have a load of old football annuals lying around the loft at my old dear's house and it's all Nat Lofthouse and Billy Wright. Liverpool never gets a look in.