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The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« on: August 12, 2016, 08:19:01 pm »
The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17

This is a continuation of the last five APLT threads which ran over the last five seasons and can be found here:
2011-12 http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=278916.
2012-13 http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=296309.0
2013-14http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=306705.0
2014-15http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=315567.0
2015-16http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=322215

For those of you who are new to the APLT, or those who need a reminder of the model, the APLT makes an assumption that in order to win the league title, a team needs to win 90 points for the season.  This can be achieved by winning all home matches, the seven ‘easiest’ away matches (the three promoted teams and the 14th-17th ranked teams from the previous season) and draw the 12 remaining away matches.  I refer to these as the ‘par results’.  As in golf, par will be achieved more often than not, but sometimes points are dropped or gained in relation to par.

The fixture list below for the top seven teams from last season indicates the ‘hardest’ matches which are all par 1s, with the remaining fixtures all par 3s.



Over the season, I will plot the results in relation to par for all the teams featured on a graph (an example of last season’s completed graph is below).  If a team plays to par, the line on the graph will be horizontal, whereas dropped points will lead to a negative gradient and gained points a positive gradient.



The green depreciating line reflects a drop of 0.5 points per game (dropping to 19 points below par by game 38) to illustrate a 71 point season, a reasonable estimation of the points needed to achieve a top four finish.  Any team with ambitions to finish top four needs to be above this green line by the end of the season.

I’ll do my best to keep this up-to-date as best as possible as the season progresses and I hope it illustrates the impact of results on our season.

I'll also try to send a tweet when I do an update @RawkProf



This excellent post from Nessy is well worth reading if you are new to this....


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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2016, 08:33:56 pm »
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2016, 09:15:04 pm »
Nice to see this back, especially as it gives a more considered view of how the table is. :)

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2016, 09:20:05 pm »
You know the new season is actually close to starting when this thread pops up...!

So how long to Leicester stay in it until they drop off?!

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2016, 09:20:34 pm »
Love these threads Prof, keep up the good work mate

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2016, 09:27:07 pm »
Thanks Prof, looking forward to following this thread again this season
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2016, 10:35:09 pm »
Love this thread. Always gives an interesting comparison to the actual table.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2016, 01:56:05 am »
One of my fave threads.  Looking forward to this year's instalment Prof - especially with the Reds up the top! ;-)
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2016, 05:22:02 pm »
I echo the previous replies Prof, thanks for doing this again. Certainly is one of the most interesting and enjoyable threads on RAWK.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2016, 10:05:17 am »
You know the new season is actually close to starting when this thread pops up...!

Aye. And a welcome sight it is.

Thanks Prof.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2016, 10:09:49 am »
Love this thread. Hopefully it won't be as depressing as the last few years this year.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2016, 12:05:58 pm »
Let's try and start the season by winning a par 1!
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2016, 05:17:53 pm »
Thanks Prof! Looking forward to checking this thread every 2 hours for no good reason. ;D

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2016, 05:53:19 pm »
Let's try and start the season by winning a par 1!

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2016, 05:54:26 pm »
Nice start!

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2016, 06:00:27 pm »
Libpool libpool top of the league ( aptl )  :D

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2016, 07:24:34 pm »
It's on!!

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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2016, 07:17:43 am »
Think I enjoy this thread more than the footy 😂
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2016, 09:44:11 am »
+2 it is on!

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2016, 09:53:44 am »
Ahhhhh great stuff. Countless hours to be spent in here over the coming months!

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2016, 03:38:43 pm »
Is it too early to suggest getting rid of Leicester?

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2016, 04:04:48 pm »
Is it too early to suggest getting rid of Leicester?

Yes.

+2

Roll on the season, cheers to Prof for this thread again.
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2016, 04:41:16 pm »
Thanks everyone  :wave

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2016, 04:51:47 pm »
Yeah, watch us beat Burnley, draw Spurs, beat Leciester, draw Chelsea, and then lose to Hull at home. :D
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2016, 11:31:13 pm »
That'd look beautiful in graph form.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2016, 12:24:50 pm »
Chelsea: +2
Manchester City: +2
Manchester United: 0
Spurs: 0
Liverpool: -1
Arsenal: -3
Leicester: -5

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2016, 08:50:07 am »
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2016, 09:53:11 am »
well that was a slip up, no bones about it. Still, I prefer beating Arsenal (a direct competitor) and losing to Burnley than the other way around.

Leicester are really having a tough time at the moment.

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« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2016, 01:17:42 pm »
well that was a slip up, no bones about it. Still, I prefer beating Arsenal (a direct competitor) and losing to Burnley than the other way around.

Yes, obviously our position in the table would have been the same either way. The difference is that we managed to dent Arsenal's chances who would've been on par had we lost to them.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2016, 06:35:55 pm »
What happened to the graphs, 72 point line and all that or is it too early yet?

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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2016, 08:57:23 pm »
After Game 1 was the time to do the graph.  It's too late now.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2016, 09:49:41 pm »
You know the new season is actually close to starting when this thread pops up...!

So how long to Leicester stay in it until they drop off?!


And who will be the new surprise entry?

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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2016, 10:06:12 pm »
What happened to the graphs, 72 point line and all that or is it too early yet?
The graph shows the season at a glance.  After two fixtures it's pretty meaningless.  I'll add it in the next update and then on.

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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2016, 08:30:38 am »
The graph shows the season at a glance.  After two fixtures it's pretty meaningless.  I'll add it in the next update and then on.

Cheers Prof  :thumbup

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2016-17
« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2016, 04:59:22 am »
One point behind title winning form. We're the better team against spurs too.

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